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You can't always give a positive spin to whatever is said by bocx. The science may be great but the problems encountered tuning it into a commercial product may be insurmountable. If anyone whines about the lack of a commercial product, it is pointed out that bocx's concern is not stockholders but cancer patients. There must be a comercial product, otherwise cancer patients will never benefit. If there is one stock holders benefit. So what is good for cancer patients is good for stockholders. As you move down the development road you encounter problems that you solve and move foward. Sometimes you find something you can't solve and go back to square one or give up. The fact that bocx has not given us any info leads me to believe that have hit a stone wall in the development of the product and have not figured out how to proceed.
I hope someone at bocx reads this board as ok says. If they do they will see a lot shares represented and people that will do what is necessary to protect their investment. I just want them to know that if a law suit is necessary there is enough money here to do what has to be done. I did not mean get a lawyer now but if there is nothing else we can do, we will take them to court. I'm tired of having to whine and beg for info. I expect them to respond to our concerns.
I think we need a Texas lawyer specializing in corporate shennagins.
I'm very tired of being treated like a mushroom. Kept in the dark and fed crap.
You get my 119K shares
Actually, nobody on this board seems to know much about Dr. Moro. I can't find a bio on him and no has offered one. I thought he was an older man but somewhere I read he is 54.
Why do they talk in riddles and leave us to speculate. If there is a connection say so. We naturally tend to put the most positive spin on what is said. Say something specific that needs no guess work.
Can someone point out something positive in the 10Q?
"We are working on ..." doesn't count. I'm working on a novel but don't hold your breath til it's published.
I did not expect them to mention bocx. I was responding to the anticipation on this board that ima would mention bocx. As to bocx's silence. it can be spun negatively or positively. Without any explanation I see the silence as negative.
Mention of bocx - good
No mention - bad
On bocx's web page, see- media files, biocurex presentaion, pg 14. What does this mean as far as abt is concerned?
Have we been misled?
Is recaf not marketable?
Are these licenses ($0.005 per share total in 3 years) just P&D hype?
Who is Dr. Moro, has anybody read a detailed bio?
Has anyone read a transcipt of the isobm presentations?
Why are they located in the fraudulent company capital of the world?
How do we go from selling race horses to God's answer to curing cancer?
Am I really so stupid that I have bought into this crap?
Guess I am.
Several people have mentioned the billions that RECAF will save by early detection. Think about the people that are currently receiving those billions. Universities around the country receive billions in grants to do cancer and other research. Doctors, drug companies, hospitals, funeral homes receive billions from cancer patients. These entities are not going to roll over and watch their gravy train dissapear in the sunset. Look what the drug companies did to Drs. Marshall and Warren when they discovered that stomach ulcers were caused by the bacteria H. pylori and could be easily cured with antibiotics. One other thing. Have you noticed that we the tax payers pay for all these grants to universities and individuals to do medical research but when something that has potential is discovered it is patented and a corporation formed that is owned by the researcher. The corporation either licenses the product or sells the corporation. The taxpayer that helped fund the research and doesn't have insurance can't afford the treatment. We see RECAF as something wonderful. Believe me, there are many out there that see RECAF as threat to their financial well being and will fight to stop it's introduction in the market. I am one cynical sob.
GREAT!
I believe the author will follow up with an interview with abt, also a third article about bocx and ima. The article was obviously written before 1-9-08. If she (I think, she) stays after it I believe she will be acknowledged nationally for her investigative journalism.
I believe that in 30 days it will be obvious that bocx has gotten more good pr from the article GG found in the IU paper than all the paid crap that bocx (GW) has used in the last 5 years.
Amen!
Who are these people that come from no where and take over this board? Where's Kag?
I don't think its ocbb that's the problem. I think it's the stock. If Moro decided to sell the patents, how much are they worth, maybe nothing maybe a dime per share. We are in a stock going no where (based on pass performance and I mean years of past perfomance). ABT has had a license for 3 years and nothing. There is no way most people on this board can get out without driving the stock to 20c or below.
Short interest down to only 8,300 shs.
Two sounds good.
This time next year, bocx will be toast. I believe this is now a scam and gw, moro and others know it. ABT and ima are complicit in the scam. Abt and ima should return the license before they get caught up in a nasty situation.
Just what has Moro done for the patients? What he has done for patients is nothing. Less for investors.
Sounds like they published the pre-nup part of the marriage agreement
Go to Yahoo finance, bocx. They filed an 8Q today. Someone explain the purpose of this filing.
I don't think it's a question of pr. I think it's a question of the science behind the pr. We never question the viability of a bocx licensee bringing a product to market. Maybe they can't. ABT will spend more on one sales staff meeting than they have paid to bocx in 3 years (litterly chicken feed).
Just bought 100 @ asked. See if it helps. If the downers can buy a 120 to affect the price, so can us uppers.
1-9-08 The pr was a joint release by bocx & ima, so ima has acknowledged the license. 1-10-08 pr by bocx with some discussion of the license situation. To me the most important info was in the 8th paragraph. This indicates that bocx intends to manufacture and market the "poc" test. I know most everyone is aware of the above but some seem to feel that ima has not acknowledged the agreement. I must be bipolar, this company gets me po'd one minute and hopeful the next. What a roller coaster ride.
Something is fishy with company.
For what it's worth.
On Ameritrade under bocx news it shows yesterdays announcement and it appears it was a joint (for those in Cal.that means done together) press release.
No. I sold 55% of my stock in the fall but intend to retain the rest.
Generally people don't trust bocx management. Those that have been around awhile know why. Until there is more than another license agreement that pays practically nothing it's hard to get excited. The payments made by abt since the beginning don't amount to a penny per share. When a product is being introduced to the market, then get excited. But only if the announcement comes from someone other than bocx.
What does it mean?
We don't have a test we have a "foundation of a test". Maybe someday we will be able to develop a test with the "potential to significantly change ..." but then maybe we won't.
Us mules keep following the carrot by ignoring the words "foundation of" and "potential" We only see "a test" and "to significantly change." They make what appears to be very positive statements when in fact they insert carefully chosen words that make the statements meaningless. A foundation maybe strong or it maybe weak and fail. Both are foundations. Potential could mean maybe it will work or maybe it won't.
GS, we need some positive spin.
I love the optimism on this board but there could be negative reasons for the lack of news. As I understand it, as you develop new products you encounter unanticipated problems that you must work out. Sometimes you must go back to some point and proceed in different direction to overcome the problem you encountered. These are problems that you can not foresee therefore there is no way to plan for them. Maybe they have encountered a problem they cannot overcome or have yet to find a way to overcome it. Maybe it can't be corrected.
No. Bocxman has not posted but once ( a nothing post) since Sept or Oct of 2006. He was ill and in the hospital. He seemed to bail out of bocx when they hired Lebed to pump the stock.
Shorts
Short interest down to 27,300 from 73,800
I'm not sure what you want me to explain. There's always two sides to a pancake. Bocx's spin on not divulging the the terms of the license is they do not want the competition to know what's in their license. The other side is they did not want stockholders and potential investers to know. They made the most of the license pr wise. Now all of a sudden they divulge the license, Why? I want to know why and not just some speculation. Had I known the terms I would have gotten out and stayed out until something positive happened.
We need help.
For over 2-1/2 years bocx has used the abt license to enhance their reputation. How many would have continued to invest had they known the terms of the agreement. Stockholders should have been told. This is a farce and we should not take it lying down.
You can bet Dr. Moro knows everything about GW. He's not stupid. He knows things we don't.
You can bet Dr. Moro knows everything about GW. He's not stupid. He knows things we don't.
This also my understanding. The testing done to adapt recaf to abt's equipment should have done in a clinical setting. The information required should be available but abt must submit it.