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There are some naive people who would think that being courteous and polite with Carter will get us millions. Carter is cold blood and a great salesman, he knows how to get people to believe in him and this is his forte, be likeable and we will believe everything he says, but my bank account has grown at all since the settlement.
As I heard today most crooks are stupid.
Maybe BC & DL are such people
Al Capone was caught because he was stupid and got caught on tax evasion. Possibly Carter may get caught on something very simple
First, thank you for the birthday wish, very much appreciated. I am not surprised of you wishing me a happy birthday as I know you being a very nice person.
i wish that someday we meet so we can talk in person. And thanks for the clarification of your prior post . I am always glad to read your comments as I agree with you almost all of the time, and please accept mine as a gesture of simply getting involved.
I have been silent for a while as I didn’t have much to contribute, but now that I have put some funds into our cause I want to express myself and speak on comments and issues coming up. If I don’t agree I will say so or if I do agree I will say so as well.
You are probably the only one in this group who knows my age and that is good with me. I don’t want to use my date of birth as a reason for anything.
Have a good evening.
Rejean
I was listening to “Pawn Stars” a few minutes ago and Rick said that most crocks are stupid. This could be our story at the end. When I watch “Greed” on CNBC they always catch the crooks as they all make stupid moves to get caught
This is the very worst suggestion I have ever heard.
Are you trying to give Carter a cheap way to get out of his predicament
A penny or two is not what most of us want to get.
We need to get what is owed to us or nothing
I have just became a contributor today to our cause for the simple reason that I want to see us fight for what is right.
All those words, my estimate, In my opinion, in my honest opinion , all this mean 0.00$
I don’t care what anyone says, the money in my bank account means everything to me.
AMEN
SHOW ME THE MONEY AND I’LL BE A BELIEVER
So according to you we should be expecting a payment according to the amount of shares we own.
But the problem is when, this week, next week, next month, next year or never?
Why can’t we get paid now?
What is holding it up?
Has Billy gave you a time line for our payment?
To me the payment is all I care, but the sooner the better.
I will believe anything when I see funds in my account.
AGREE
We have been through so much that it’s appropriate that we do what is best for us at this time.
We need confirmation that we are treated fairly nothing more, nothing less.
Good afternoon Riptow,
I am not a lawyer and don’t pretend to know a lot about our case but having said that I agree with you 100%
HOW do you know a TRO wasn’t done without you knowing about it?
How so.
PLEASE EXPLAIN
Jbbb,
When are we going to hear from Billy Catrter?
Should he not communicate with us and tell us what the settlement is, what to expect per share and when to expect payment>
Thank you
Carter screwed us, who is to say he won’t screw Bentham like he did us.
If I was Bentham I would not lose sight of him until I get my 20% which by the way is totally ridiculous for anyone borrowing money with a guaranty of 20% of almost sure of billions.
Something is fishy here, as anyone would lend 5M for a almost sure of $250M or $500M, All one had to do is review the Chanbond files .Such a rate of return is called USURY rate
Carter probably offered 20% with intentions of never paying hi\m.
What Is Usury? Usury is the act of lending money at an interest rate that is considered unreasonably high or that is higher than the rate permitted by law.
We did win the first step against the 13. I think this was the most challenged step. Now we have to win against a supposedly crook/corrupt guy. It may not be that easy but I am convinced we will win. Not ready to spend any of this windfall but I feel we will eventually. Crooks at times get away with their crimes if they are not challenged but we are fighting him to get what we were supposed to win and I think the good guys will prevail
Wrong Tony.
FBI always interested in case Ike this where corrupt CEO are involved.
Just by watching GREED on CNBC they have cases of corruption every time even if there’s no murder.
When looking at a BILLIONS$ Settlement, some could very well think that it is too good to be true. But the facts are that our experts have expressed valuation based on all components and came out with a number.
There is a reason why experts are brought in courts and it’s to give a true value to the components from a wide range of experience.
I am expecting a higher more than a lower value and that isn’t a dream. As said above it’s based on experts testimonies.
Jesusluvzu
You are referring to my post which I m surprised, having had the chance to know you over the last few years or so i was shocked to read all your comments. I know you are a very good person.
But since I don’t like arguments on matters that I know little about, therefore, this is all I am saying on this matter.
Rejean
AGREE 100%
I am with you “easyme”
I too am too old for this game.
Best of luck to our younger group but I will not be there with you
Age is a factor for some and also a different factor ffor others
Totally agree. Relisting will never happen and Carter doesn’t want any part of us with him.
If we get something out of him that’s the last we will ever hear from him.
Why would he want us to relist and go internationally when he just got rid of us.
Well, JBBB tell us more.
Like how much and when
YTSE, Personally, I am not interested in being part of an organization to go after infringers internationally, just give so much a share of what we won yesterday for my investment in UOIP and I am happy.
The rest is like you said above is a pipe dream.
Besides, I am too old to wait for anything else
So we won!!!
When do I see the money in my account and how much ?????
If Billy is intelligent he would know that he could do better doing a better deal and share with shareholders and avoid being investigated by our legal team then accept a low ball without us.
By now he knows that we will go for our dues legally or criminally but, we will go for what is ours. And this will be a pain in his bank account
The Federalists wanted a strong government and strong executive branch, while the anti-Federalists wanted a weaker central government. The Federalists did not want a bill of rights —they thought the new constitution was sufficient.
Them are the goals of the Federalists
Government official or administration cannot be more corrupt than what we have had in the last decade. When will they release them? Any guess is as good as anything because the GSEs are a cash cow and once you have started milking it you cannot let go
Do you know any brave judge?
Sure, it’s good for the country with stolen loot.
If I decided to rob a bank it would be good for me but not for anyone else.
Same situation here. Hard to understand that SCOTUS cannot se the non legal grab the government did by seizing the two giants.
Why doesn’t the government seize Amazon and Apple and anyone else they can think of, that would be good for the country too. Doesn’t SCOTUS realize that this is what happens in a banana republic, ie Cuba
I had shares , a lot of them back a few years and finally I sold and lost quite a bit. Just like the rest of us I believed in justice but now I see no justice and all political.
I don’t think the situation is really dead, I can see someone with integrity will take is to the next phase which should be somewhat good for us all.
I am deliberating to get back in as I cannot see much more damage they can do now.
I am just wondering why it is that shareholders of most companies on a board like this one and others keep on bashing their own stock.
I, for one buy shares in a company that I have done my DD first and I am happy to go with the flow. I accept the fact that any stock cannot be green everyday, so we have down days and it’s part of playing the stock market
You win some and lose some. Anyone expecting otherwise shouldn’t be in this kind of game.
And if my investment turns ugly i get rid of it, no point in keeping a dog
You are right.
Everyone’s personal opinions are not really informative
Personally I am waiting for the hammer to fall on BC anything else isn’t worth commenting
We have our docs all lined up we are waiting for the big day.
I have faith in our people handling our affairs so I am waiting.
We At times I watch GREED on CNBC and the cases all have the doings of someone who wants to steal all they can from whoever they do business with. Possible very much like our own case.
Who knows we may eventually see Billy on CNBC, and for the record justice with FBI kind of get the culprits eventually.
If our Mr. Carter isn’t honest he may want to take a look at one of those series and he will probably start thinking how those greedy individuals spend the rest of their lives after being caught which is very hard on one’s nerves to think that prison will be your residence for years to come.
Like they did with Bernie Madoff, ignored him for ever
Our chances or reinstatement is as good as receiving an email from BC or as good as a snow ball in hell
I am not saying it cannot be done but will it be done.
By the way, when are we suppose to hear from BC?
Why don’t we know now how much and when?
This information about a TA came to us via a third party which may or may not be accurate.
Personally I don’t believe a single word of it.
Our brokerage account has all the info needed, we don’t need to do anything like getting the amont of shares notarized.
The only action require by BC is to send the funds to our brokerage firm, and voila it’s done.
Anything else is another make up story to walk away with the loot
Or, do you even believe there will be a vote.
Considering the source, one cannot take it for granted
So what you’re saying we should just give up and let Carter enjoy having screwed us and just lick our wound and forget that we ever invested in UOIP.
Giving up now is a sure sign of a loser. By fighting back we show that we will not lay dead and be trumped over by crooked people.
We may not win but at least we are fighting back. We have enough knowledgable people in this group to give us a fair chance
If indeed UOIP was taken illegally by UO!P
Any deals done by BC for UO!P would be illegal
Remember Erin Brockovich she was no lawyer and she got the job done. Congrats Aram aka Gcoll