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DB have not seen/found anything new as far as a filing
Could you please enlighten us New filing in Waco?
Hay Day If we are taking guesses Mine would be Micosoft Amazon and Google in that order
Orca,, With vplm's totally inept and completey useless IR person
I would not expect any news from the company. Over the last month there have been several news worthy events that should have brought some type of announcement from the company Even the scheduled meeting on April 9th should be news worthy even if just a news letter to share holders. Or a paragraph on the facebook page or company website .
Almost makes you wonder which side our IR person is actually working for
But an Op-Ed on the virus or how airlines should handle it now that is a different story, they must get out there Just never tell VPLM's story that would be wrong.....
Replying to myself haha
My point here is ... If the Patents are worthless and they don't use them Why haven't the "Bigs" Ever stated in a court room that they don't use them..
They have tried " you didn't invent them" "you don't own them"
"they are obvious and they are abstract"
But NEVER "we don't use them"
Go Figure
Sheepdog
Been here a few years lots of DD. never have they denied they use the patents
Let's look at it another way.... you are for example apple 'you are walking along a path (shorter, faster, and easier.) you see a posted sign No Trespassing (letter of patent infringement) you say nope I will go around .... then the land owner (VPLM) files and claims that you trespassed and (infringed) and took you court..
Would not your first and strongest defense be that No I did not trespass
I Went Around I never stepped on your property (used your IP)
NONE of the Defendants have EVER SAID THAT IN COURT
I will repeat NONE OF THE DEFENDANTS...... HAVE EVER STATED THAT THEY DO NOT USE THE PATENEBTS in court
Well Bad News from the court today
Looks Like we lost the Mandamus
Sucks Big Time
S7 yes the statements about court date continuing and same posters
Is a great laugh Of course with more than a dozen patents and 50 + infringers of course there will be court dates in 2022 may even have some in 2030 but the key is how many suits will be won and where the stock price will be .50 or 50. Oh and just a question If the company and all the patents are bought and the buyer say one of the largest phone makers in the entire world,, continues to sue other infringers of the patents that they now own Does that make them a patent troll since they didn't invent but bought the IP ???? just asking lol
A question to ALL
It does not matter....who wrote them first.. the patents are obvious... or if you are in the wrong court...
After years and years many Millions of Dollars
WHY hasn't someone said ... IT DOES NOT MATTER... WE DON"T USE YOUR IP TECH
(Something that has never been said in any court)
It all seems so simple Maybe because they are...and they know it
which means there is infringement
To ALL Board Members
Pro... Con... and Lerkers ...
I would like to wish you all a Very MERRY CHRISTMAS
and May the New Year bring you Peace and Happiness
My Best to All
Don
I agree a press release would be great
Maybe Hudnell could help write it so that things get explained properly and with full importance Showing how truly damaging this is to Apple and others
Spyke37
These travelers you mention do they travel to the East ?
Question about shares If Kipping shares are to be returned and the number that has been repeatedly mentioned is 125 million shares.
If that number is truly returned won't it reduce the O S and if it reduces the OS doesn't Emil's 40% also become reduced ? If that is the case than Emil will need to return 50 million shares added to the 125 million Kipping shares for a total of 175 million shares a fairly sizable reduction 8 % or so (doing the math in my head) In theory shouldn't the PPS go up a bit with the reduction ? of course this is predicated on Emil's shares being returned as 40% of OS if 40% of A S then this goes away
I would very much like to hear thoughts and opinions on the voluntary dismissal with AT&T I have my own ( licensing deal? payout for infringement ?) But somehow I just don't feel great about it PM me if you like
did you also see that apple loss their petition for writ of mandamus
attempting to move another case from Judge Albrights courtroom to northern cali where it might be friendlier to them Nice try no cigar
Does anyone know if Emil returns shares as well ? Since when Kippings share are returned the OS goes down and therefore Emil may need to return 40% of of the reduction ? Don't know just asking ...
DB Seeing VPLM Green on nice volume, and with that Sea of Red you mentioned in the rest of the market, along with the fact that the Judge was very interested in our clean sweep at the PTAB almost 2 weeks out and not 36ed I feel very good about Next Week
Boston Gardens Big Green Machine, Bird Parish McKale?
I believe .... As each day passes without a decision, Vplm chances improve
Anyone at the hearing is in the courtroom now listening to Lewis Hudnell kicking butt
All of this is so ridiculous.... So far in the all the cases It has been claimed VPLM didn't invent the tech, they did.... Vplm doesn't own the patented tech.... The Tech can't be patented, as it is obvious ....so far vplm is 12-0 on those claims with PTAB at No Point has anyone in those cases claimed they don't use the Tech. Again... I have never seen a claim by any of those involved in the suits claiming they do not use the tech
So once the dust clears .... infringement should be quite simple.
just my thoughts
Russ
I believe you have the right digits although in the wrong order.
The 1 should be to the left of the decimal .... 1.00
N M
What is laughable is your idea it is ok to steal a patent, if it is old
Let's try this.... You have a car. The model is Pat 1.0 I steal your car and drive it around for a few years I still have your car but a newer model comes out Pat 2.0 and I grab that one, I still have yours, But I am driving the newer one around now. I claim don't owe you anything for your car because I don't drive it much.... and it is old
An absolutely absurd argument.
But wait it get's better after I stole your car(Pat 1.0)While I was driving it around, I used it to provide rides for a fee. Billions and Billions of rides to passengers called PC(phone calls) VC(voice mail V.(video) and others and I made money lots and lots of money with you car. Wouldn't you believe and claim that I owe you for the car (Pat 1.0) AND some of the fees for the rides I gave with YOUR Car Don't you believe I owe you something ??????
Charm
I agree with you 200% Oh wait That is like the VPLM down 700% stuff that has been written LOL
I couldn't agree with you more!!! I am in Full agreement with you.
I completely agree with you. My thoughts are exactly in line with yours
maybe if said 4 times it is 400%
At any rate I believe Management at VPLM has dropped the ball in getting the word out and also in keeping shareholders informed I must be losing some of my virtue as I am growing very impatient .....
I agree,
Vplm has done little to get the story out to the financial world.
Just for illustration, and conversation let's consider
That 15,000 people have heard of Vplm, As there are roughly 4000 share holders.
Imagine if 150,000 people new the story of VPLM and the patents or 15,000,000 knew or even if 150,000,000 people knew the story where would the share price VPLM be then ???
We are at .024 because No one knows the story...
The management of Vplm has done little to promote the patents and their story to the financial world and potential shareholders and the share price reflects the same
Drumming
Isn't that TOP LAW firm working on a contingency
so they aren't taking any money unless they win ?
After reading it completely, I agree 100% Very Strong , Well written
I believe will result in reversal
Thanks Too Big TJ
The appeal filing is there
It is a rather interesting and well presented read
NOT just a bunch of fluff and long winded legalese
Can anyone who has access, Please post a link to VPLM's written appeal to
Koh's dismissal decision....
Thanks in advance
To All VPLM LONGs
It seems the simplest of logic ....
If someone was to accuse me of trespass and stealing. My 2.5 year long defense would not be centered around the fact that, They have no right to accuse me because they don't actually own the property and item I stole.... Which is what APPLE did
I think I would concentrate my efforts on the fact that I never trespassed and never stole. But that is not what happened Apple fought and lost with the argument that, VPLM doesn't own the patent. Not that they didn't steal and use it. Go figure
Likewise if the patents are so worthless why is APPLE using them??? and if they aren't why have they NEVER claimed that in court? Seems to be the easiest route Just say Sure VPLM you own the patents So what we don't use them or need them.. case closed Right? WRONG they have never even tried that in the 2.5 year fight ASK YOURSELF WHY
And what about Emil's shares He is paying himself Yup he is paying himself millions in SHARES not cash
If the the company goes down he will have hundreds of millions of shares of nothing So it is obvious he wants to win so his shares are worth millions (maybe billions) not worth nothing If it was a scam he would be taking cash not shares
I am not referring to anything other than the excerpts of the court documents you posted they were true and factual
Only the Instructions and cautions issued by the Court were directed toward the the Plaintiffs (APPLE, ATT, VERIZON, TWITTER) They were not directed toward VPLM
So exactly the OPPOSITE of what you were implying
Anything can be taken out of context...
How ever when the entire instruction from the court concerning delays and continuances is reviewed in full. It is crystal clear it is the DEFENDANTS that are be cautioned not the plaintiffs
So you statements are completely misconstrued.
Bird
I think you are spot on and will add a slightly different take on the new a/s amount It tells the bigs that yes we want to deal but if you don't than we are ready to fight see we just authorized a new bank account to meet the legal fees. If you want a fight we are locked loaded and financed..... just a thought
All court proceedings are pacific time so not even 2pm yet and most updates will come after court adjourns for the day
so still a few more hours yet
I can feel the steam building This Train is about to leave the station
and it is an EXPRESS
Thank You for the update GBC
I would like to put an idea/question out there for all
Since the on going cases against Verizon ATT and Apple all seem to be transferred to to same court (California Northern District) It would seem that there will be an attempt to combine all cases ? (would make sense)
That said, can that be done if there is a "stay" in place for one of the plaintiffs?
Wouldn't that stay have to be lifted in order for the case to move forward against all ? I welcome thoughts from those more experienced in matters of the Law
Hope today is great and special even though
Vplm is taking longer than we thought. Possible we are still right with predictions just wrong on the dates
Missed a zero on the licensing figure but either way works
Great Post HearMe
I think you might just be spot on with this, I will toy with your train of thought if I may....
Imagine for a second a BIG settling their infringement for 1,000,000,000 and then licensing for 1,000,000 per yr
While we longs watch the 50+ infringers fall into line
OH HAPPY DAYS
MTgirl
So much I agree with; yes probably Sept, and probably a Friday.
I do however think your buy out price is a little low,I will say 6 billion. I also think it will be a Big just not Amazon. I think it will be Google If I am right I will happily buy the first round.
Isn't there a well know adage Buy on rumor, Sell on news
So why is it a surprise