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When did our friend ever was right?His DD after 15 years are just a tool to keep silent and QUite the Voice of protest for the Escrow holders.
At least thats a Post I agree generally speaking too.And tats why we should have started a legal war long time ago to change the sitts on the table so we had better rpepresentation and as Joyce Cantwell once said dont bring a jackal into the table as he is used to bargain the best for him self and than starting for others.WillyJam is the only person who should have bared responsibility.And after the BK of calpine we should have been watching our backs much more better than leve the Jackal alone to watch for us.
Hi Stox.I am here long enough and have given money time and soul and energy to not see this outcome for us the escrow Holders.Everyone knows me and am here from the day one of the seizure and it makes me sad to see that Imposter WillyJam to go away with this but cant do Shiat as they are the System and the Evil hand hiting hard the True Faithfullfull people which thought the sytem in USA Was Fair and Reasonably good enough to make a buck.I have lost everything in this saga.And honestly the prayers of people like are going to get one day sooner or later the People as WIllyJam and those which play their Allias trying to give hope after 15 years of Waiting and suffering.I am fed up with them but alone and with Sheeps around cant do nothing so better go and hide into my hole wishing praying to real God the Creator that the Apocalipse (coming from those Playing God from the West) are going to show mercy for me and my dear ones and let us survive.
Yes indeed there three Wells acount allowed by court order to pay debtors in possesion from the WMB 4B$ acount and already used ater the POR 7 implementation and was worth around 4.6B$ if I recal correctly to pay the seniour Holders of the WAMU from the 7.9B$ known debts the WAMU Entered into the BK Protection.
Its fine for me to wait another month or two and after that to see what going to be.Of course aint stupid to now hope for a Distribution thou I doubt we will see one for the escrow Holders.
I believe you were discussing finishing the NSM merger with shares issued to those investors who signed timely releases by 3/2012.
Your date of February 11, 2023, for issuance of those shares, is almost upon us already, and curious if you still feel this way.
Thanks for your thoughts...LG
I hope you can read how often I post in here to understand how much I see a solution for the escrows.In the end is very evil push hopes for people suffering from Injustice of their very own People which settled and talked about Fair and reasonble and gave the middle finger to them.So lets be honest and tell a spade on its name.
those 300B have been swallowed and already in the JPM Body and beyong recognition.Why is it necessary to make up stories without not only evidence but also healthy reasoning.If ther were 300B of value plenty of big fishes would have been all around trying not only to grab but also Derail the amount of Wealth toward them.
Litigation trust got discountinued.I personaly asked Sargent why they gave their claims against Goldman nd other Financials and he said we tried but there was nothing to go after them and we ddint pursued them after the meetings with their lawyers.
This thing stinks in high heaven.We are dumped.And very day passes and Escrows shows empty spaces suports that.
Of cours is BSh as its about the distribution of the WMI Shares done to the escrow Holders and long time ago done and gone.
Here comes the flow without <water.Sorry an but you either evil or Clueles to keep posting INFO Without Info just for the sake to give hope after 15 years of waiting.
Thats totally untrue.U had to read also the Answer of the Rosen to Equity Committee in this regard.I read it and honestly except the Page G which is left blank for unknown purposes dont see anything worth discussing.And even if I recall correctly this Page was left Blank as in that Time Rosen have expresed the wish to sue the Myriad of Financials for Wrong doing and Nothing happend to them as Sussy and Goffy ddint acomplish anything by strating a trial agaist them imediatly after the Plane Aprovment.Honesyl this smells in high heaven and we all knew this just couldnt change anymore as Sussy was gone and done and serving to evil powers WillyJams Included.
I dont hold anymore the hope or the Escrows to receive anything anymore after the end of the Last year but who Knows.I hope wish and Pray and want to see to br wrong but if one asked me I would say Evil have won and we are left empty handed.
Ps I agree that the Share price maintaned at the Current levels is highly dubiouse and forced to stay there for unknown Reasoning most probably for any Share Swaps.Could be us could someone else being merged or Bought up.The Company holds a High amount of shares through Purchase programs they did in the last years.
I Just cant comprehend the Reasoning behind his Post which have for sure some worth DD bu after 15 years of waiting they have lost all their credibility due to the amount of time that Someone or some entities had to steal or Disperse if those Assets or Cashes were for real which I dont have the doubt they were.We are talking for 15 years of waiting and honestly I Dont give a damn if they are or arent if in the future the whole humanity is going to get a P..s shower and get out of the room.
We all the Escrow Releasers agree in one thing that we cant expect indefinetly for anything to hapen for us.So aftr 15 years of waiting and after the end of this year dont think is reasonable to expect a dsitribution after the end of this year.(Actually I gave up last year).I agree and we all know ther were assets in diferent forms outside the BK Reach but after 15 years and with Mr Sussman Death that way out of posibilities to see for anything to come back to us.
Of course everyone his own but thats my reasoning and that my SImple way of thinking that those Assets of Cashes have been either stolen or dispersed around so many hedgies busy with us starting with the KKR and than later the AAOC of the TPS Dogs with a chair in the Equity COmmittee and later in the WMIH BOD.So another time the Question whats the last time to expect anything from those High powers in charge of the Wealth to throw crumbs for us?
Notice (FAQ nº 1): https://bondholderliborsettlements.com/Content/Documents/Notice.pdf
Claims submitted in the Initial Settlements will automatically be considered
for recovery in the Subsequent Settlements. However, if no claim was
submitted in the Initial Settlements, and you do nothing in response to
this Notice, you will both forfeit your right to receive a monetary benefit
from the Subsequent Settlements and give up your right to assert claims
released by these Settlements against the Settling Defendants about the
U.S. Dollar LIBOR manipulation claims at issue in the Bondholder Action.
The Subsequent Settlements, if each is approved, will, as detailed below, create an aggregate Settlement Fund of
$1.749 million that will be used to pay members of the Settlement Classes who submit valid and timely claims and
are determined to have suffered a recoverable injury under the Settlements (“Eligible Members of the Settlement
Classes”).
Hi there.Yes I Do hope pray and wish and want to be wrong and get the so long sought reward.
My brother have already long time aggo lost faith in the USA Stock exchange and isnt investing anymore and sold everything.I had to follow his advice too but I am still here a Believer lost in time and broken in space.
What has happen to your brother? He hasn't posted in quite some time.
Friendly greetings Altini
I just dont give a Damn thing about COOP.All I had a I sold and its a shamefumm to see longs forgeting about the Escrows and the claims they once had against the same people who held our Claims against either AAOC or FDICKs+JPIGs hostage for their benefits.
This have nothing to do with Possible distributions.Sorry but after the end of the last year dont think we will see a dime on our escrows.All the fault of the WillyJam and his minions which gave up the AAOC battle for a miserable Settlement worth few Hundred milions Dollars and also this dispersed and gifted to the Nation Star HEdgies and KKR BOD.Its just painfull to see backwards the wy the Shareholders were treated from this SNake akka Marine probablly some Kitchen Chief coking spagheties and Calling him self a MArine.What a Joke our case in his Hands.
With a lot of Pain I agree with you.THats whats out there black and white and good or bad the only thing which could have mad the diference would have been Redoing the Claim agains the FDIC and JPIGs but till now no one have give a Sheet about opening or not letting close the case so unless there was a Hiden Agreement between al parties which is highly unlikely I dont think there is anything coming for us the Escrow Holders.
Thats a receipe for disaster and branckruptcy.Of course you will go against me but that what I really think in this very volatile times.
Yes they won in Alamos but not this time as enemy have either loss or wonn and we dont know shiat as WillyJam never was honest with us and gave any dam thing about us and our needs to settle or not settle and for what amount to settle.
WMI recoveries will be distributed to legacy WMI shareholders when the time is right…
Do you think this time the next 10 January is the last time we are going to expect any recovery for us?Sorry bro but I am sick and tired of dreaming of justice and getting hacked and chocked when time is ripe.
Everything he post aas INfo is worthless and all those subs and Liquidated long time ago and money distributed to debtors.Cant believe why the heck does he try to keep the hopes high while forgeting that those Financial moves have been shown in the all MOR os the WAMU During the BK Time.Have asked him plenty of times to make him stop the useless posting which give useles hopes to the Already much sufering WMU Escrow HOlders from injustice made By WIllyJam and his minions.
Whats there for Hmm but for the Company to not even want to pay the miserable 20 dollar fees to keep it open.How does this make me think hmmm?
My apologies.She is being missed here around.
Its kind of sad to see see empty places where there were my Escrows acounts dear Ilenne.
I Hope and wish everything ok with you dear.
Amen and the same for me too.I hold a few COOP Shares as had to sell them years ago due to life troubles and when I shout about the Justice being through the fingers of WillyJam no one want to accept it.He is the only backstaber of Shareholders and the one who h-didnt need to settle but go for the Jail against the AAOC from the start and make possible their claims being dismanttled and pured to us.I Would have been much more hapy with their 4B$ in that time or few years later than this Saga and miserable settlement whoch stinks in high heaven if ist all we got from SUssy and Goffey.After 15 years of waiting the AAOC and the hedgies are only ones who have made money right now and becouse of my early sellf I am in a loss of more than 60% of my original investment in here so honestly Wish we could have seen something else but what we have here till now is a big Hedge funds feest and party on the back of the retail with the blessing and help of WIllyJam and his Minions.
Yes a chance.
WHat is in the 3 WHEELS FARGO accts $$$ wise?
Maybe something left but doubt it as the debtors had their fingers on them so after 15 years dont think left something for us.
WHat is in the 1031 exchange as far as property or asset wise??????
The Alvarez Said in the end of the BK that it have been disolved and no cash remaining(Its not such a big deal to keep an Domein or Compainy ope as few dollars are necesary to be paid in order to keep them open)
What is in the DST $$$ wise
They cant keep dollars longer than a year without distributiing as the IRS wants their tax share for every penny let alone dollar.
For the rest I Agre but when I Look back for me is 15 years ago bro.And thats a huge time line to be thinking we are still there in line for a distribution.But of course Prayers Hopes Wishes and Dreams to see to become true.Sorry once I was a believer but after last year end of december dont think realisticly to get anything anymore from those jackals in power in BOD and WillyJams Team.
Yes my friend the amount could have been huge as WAMU was huge.But right now after last year december dodnt expect so much anymore.Maybe 50-50 to get Shares for the NOL's Value still not used or Bring up assets from those trustees as the TPS notes had back up assets worth from 8$-11B$ in their pool but that too is and unless settled behind closed doors with settle also not so positive to come to us.Hard to see anything coming for us unless few billions from Either NOL's or Whats Left WMMRC or WAND merger assets not sold still yet.
TPS claim was only go for $4 Billion, and they are getting $10 Billion.
Thats not true.And the back up assets wallet was under a trust but they lost their fight against JPM and Equity WIllyJam didnt do nothing to help their claim against JPM and so JPM held their notes and the Assets too.DId we forget that JPM Paid as settling Packet for them around 20M$ dollar or more and paid their Lawyers fee too.Right now the only thing left to hope is that Deutche have kept good the WMB Trustees and they are going to let disbursed the Money into the wells fargo acounts or that NOL's are going to be sold and we as Owners of it are going to take new shares of COOP in compensation for that from KKR or something like that.For the rest dont know what to expect more as the FDIC have such a big claim from WMB Bonds that dont think they are going to fill that gap and let alone to bring something to us either Libor all their Legal fight they are doing to make some money for their pockets.
To be honest thats the same I See it and think also and there for I also so many times asked to start a legal fight against the Equity so we can request for a discovery about what hapen during the settling two month time discusion between Equity and AAOC and other Debtors folks.Its kind of weird that WillyJam let go AAOC worth 3.8B$ with a promisse to be disbursed for Equity lower class and Jail time too for those who cmmitted the IT Already Colorable in the judge Words and with a date sett in case they didnt settle between each other.So my suspitiouse is that they sold us down the river for few cents and not pennies on the dollar and let them go with this miserable deal and we are now just whiney Folks still hoping to see our dream come true while they have thrown our claims down to the watter toilet;
That doesnt mean nothing for us.Why?Read below.
20 frankly, because with FDIC and JPMorgan on the premises, the
21 Board determined that the protection of Chapter 11 was
22 important to protecting the remaining assets of the holding
23 company.
Of course when the Chpt 11 was closed there were around 900million Dollaar value of Assets sold Only WMMRC was worth above 400M$ let alone the other SUbs worth also plenty of dollars.So nothing for us and all for debtors.
2 of WMI is fully functioning, it’s engaged on the issues that
3 are confronting the holding company, and they are pursuing, as
4 evidenced by the filing of this Chapter 11 case, the protection
5 of the assets that would be available for the creditors and
6 other stakeholders of WMI.
Thats also the same thing as the NOL's were also worth north of 6B$ and let alone also the dollars FROM IRS around 5.6B$ paid and disbursed and settled for JPIgs and FDicks with the consent of Debtors and Creditors akka AAOC and Equity Committee later.
Just as another note, we do not have a motion for
13 debtor in possession financing because this debtor has adequate
14 cash available to it to cover the cost of administration and to
15 cover the cost of managing the assets and any continuing
16 operations in the subsidiaries.
The same thing as above they Paid around 8.2B$ of dollars and brought of BK Chpt 11 a Company called WMIH With a WMMRC worth 400M$ and NOL's worth 6B$ and line of credit of 200M$.
So everything they said was true for them not for us as no one gave a F for the Equity iiregardless of the louzy work WillyJam did with his miniions in the Lawyers Sits.
So please Flow please but I mean Please dont bring hope with Old stuf without any valid Hope for the Equity Folks unless you did some thorough DD and based on real Hope and not Just vague Terms of the old Useless fillings already Gone and done from the Reality.
Hey it going to the 15 th year do you get this?I dont want to get anything beyond human life time span.Are those folks insane to come with prediction of new dates while we are going to the 15 years?It doesnt have any valid Reason to believe else but that Box have been plundered from the same people which stole the Estate and we here with naivity expect to still maintain their Necesary Integrity for too fullfill their fiduciary duties.And this after 15 years.For God's Sake wake up and take a cold shower as the reality is coming down to earth and the world me included is fed up with your USA corrupt elite which doesnt have a problem to wipe out the rest of the humanity whenever they see through by all the means Starvation War Covid end every mean at their disposal.Go and read GEorgia Guidestones for their planes.Even the only honest Man over there Mr Trump a God's send last minute fire man cant do anything against them.
U have our prayers Jon.Sorry for ur loss.For every WAMU who perishes and didnt see his investment back millions bad words goo toward the only Jerk of this Place called WIllyJam and his Minions.
In the moment they declared BK they dispeared and Rosen said that they were misstake from acountants hastily filling up WMB Stock abandoment and declared them as such for the future NOL's.Now goo and read some BK Fillings and will see what I mean.I Know what they are and wish it was like that but I also know what they were changed from QUIN and Alvarez Marciel in their future 8K and 10K of their restructuring Fillings.
U right as also U know I Held also few Hundred of H Shares for the sole voting purposes and me too got what U said but my main point was that the H didnt have any relevance for the AAOC as that didnt make so much Value for them around 700M$ if I am not wrong but the NOL's Value had much more vlaue for them for to ofset future gains and for the after the IT they got away with more than 4.8B$ wealth of WAMU plus future Dividents so in a way they got everything what was left on what was public right now and they boughted those Notes in few pennies on the dollar and from those more than 5B$ of Wealth they paid to settle their Insider trading Claims around 70M$ cash and 200M$ line of credit while they took with them more than 5B$ of Cash payments.So tell me who is the winner and who is the Looser?And the settlement was prepared by WIllyJam and SUssy and Gofey.Cant bellieve to see them enjoy the cash and us Here writing day by day nonsense and being happy with the miserable 70M$ that the MTHF WillyJam settled and found More than Fair and REasonable.What F..ed Up Royalty cluster F for the Fellows of WillyJam and his puppets.
Retained earnings have nothing to do with either cash or assets and they arent any value but losses to be translated in future NOL's.
He either lied or didnt know that AAOC with 35 $ for their H got previously also all the Juniour Notes worth more than 3.8B$ paid few cents on the dollars together with back wards divies and those H Notes were to steal above the and the NOL's Included.So now tell me who got like bandits and who got shafted.They that Got 3.8B$ plus dividents worth of 0.7B$ and H paid not 50$ but 35$ or us who right now got their Escrow Signs acounts removed.He is just either a dreamer or Mole.
Thats the most evilish declaration.AAOC got 4B$ with lost dividents and we got shafted still here after 15 years of waiting and now the Escrow are gone from our acounts u declare this?U should be jocking with our Balls right?GFY dear Ron.
Unless we unite and do something for a change there is nothing to expect in the future.And the minimum we can do is a Escrowholders and COOP Shareholders Group forming we the rights we get by corporate law as Minority Group and make the right question through our Lawyer or represantive with all Legal Means to the BOD of COOP and maybe we can see and understand whats going on and either sue or Lay down the Hopes and Everything we fought and waited for in the last 15 years.
Thanks for the efforts Jordan.