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And lets be clear......I held for some time now and even added.....3 years worth.....on prospects, notions, plans and dreams of what could happen, as with any stock.
However, I made a decision based on the actual facts i saw, found, was presented and an overall feeling of what has happened with the overall picture of TAUG and it's future.
Now, in the future, maybe things will change and the value can be added back to TAUG with some actual products, business and services of some kind.....sure that is very possible. And in that case.....I'm glad you got my many shares, maybe they will do better for you and the other VERY LONG Taug holders.
That will be the test of time......more time.....and time.
However, every company has to be able to sustain itself somehow, and grow.....most chose to be viable and sell products or services. And the ones that don't, go away.
I'm not going anywhere.
As i have said for a very, very long time now.....I would support and back as long as i was happy with the answers I got and believed.
WELL, as of today.....that has changed. I sold my shares. Just an FYI to all.....since I have been such a HUGE damn supporter, until now.
Sorry, but i simply have doubts strong enough now, to sell off them all, no matter the cost/loss, etc.
Actually, some good DD, research and questions diannedawn, fair questions to ask.
That was for the wellness side of business, NOT TAUG.....it even says that. It was posted for sale....publicly posted somewhere, anywhere.....as required. Whether Stella was going to buy it, assume it or whatever. It was listed as required.
This is all just utterly amazing to me.....gotta love this.
Go BVAP!
Have a great day!
There's a lot more to that post than the one quote that was reposted and used against Seth. Kinda like taking a quote in a story out of context......
But, yours or others opinions are opinions none the less....we are all free to have them and share them here. We all have them.
My entire point was that anyone can be fooled by anyone.....happens everyday. And if as you so strongly feel, that Seth is fooling them....then don't buy-in or back the company or companies......that's ok too, there are many others who see the real potential, have faith in what the future holds and will continue to back, buy, hold and support.
This is a place to share info, facts, data, research, opinions and thoughts on the companies we all share an interest in.
Or....whatever interest in just Seth.
Anyone else......share your thoughts and opinions.....it is allowed here.
I posted this on another board......of which MANY of us are all on both TAUG and BVAP boards here and MANY share and post their comments back and forth....same things, lol. It was in reply to anothers' post. But, it fits very well here and holds the same message i feel about TAUG and what has happened with both TAUG and certain points of BVAP.
"Yeah....trust can be a very scary thing. You think you can trust people in business or life, they put on a good show to your face....then BAM....behind your back all hell is breaking lose.....or worse you come in and find this all out after the fact. People can be very hateful, shady and only out for their personal agenda.....as we see all the time.......and Seth has had to deal with. He admitted being trustful and sadly it hurt him. Well....If a man's fault is being trustful.....then id take that fault over some of these others any day.
Seth was put in that situation and I think and feel 100% he has done a great job handling every single stupid, arrogant and worthless thing that Kimmel (and a few others) did.
Questioning is a great thing....no one faults anyone for simply asking questions....I have had MANY questions to both BVAP and TAUG people over the years now....and I got honest answers that I could live with....just like we all did....just depends on how you interpret those answers and what you feel about it. That's the individuals choice on that one. And mine, well.....I'm still here as well.
BVAP and TAUG both have had a troubled line of succession with people in charge. For various reasons, people came in and out, several times.....and others came over to HELP and get things RIGHT.
Everyone who said..."There is no magic wand", you're right....it takes time to repair things like this. Paperwork, audits, reviews, interviews and meetings....all to get things out there and plans put in place to keep stupid stuff from happening again.
Great Job to Seth and the new teams.....keep it up and keep us going strong and green!"
"my own post"
Overall not a bad day. Like any stock.....we went down and up.....but still ended within range. Not bad. Keeping it green.
I certainly believe that is what you are, were and have been trying to do Seth. I actually don't doubt that fact at all.
HA! Ok, ok, ok.....now that one makes me laugh.
Thank you for sharing??? Have I missed something here? Who knows what?????
Filings and PR are great....but they have to be for a reason.....to show a change, position changes, company news, profit, acquisitions.....something worth putting it out or because it's required to be put out by the SEC rules, etc.
As big a supporter I am of TAUG (and I am a big one and have been).....I'm not sure why everyone thinks a filing that is "coming" is going to be soooo great.
I support TAUG and if it is a filing that is worth something to the company or even filings to get us current, etc....Ok....great.
What other filings are people thinking about here?
I want a filing with some meat to it! That goes for TAUG or any other investments i hold. Again....still a supporter of TAUG, nothing has changed, just trying to figure out everyone's angle on a filing here.
And we are all still waiting on the answer to this one....
Gonna be a interesting next couple days! Show support! Go TAUG!
An opinion is an opinion.
I think we can all have those and depending on what happens, when it happens, what is going on and whoever was in charge at the time......our opinion just might have to change, in reaction to what they do or say.
Tauriga has made me change my opinions several times.....but i spend a little more time, do some more DD, make a few calls and ask questions, research and then I just might keep my opinion or change it based on what i found. AND......I am still here....as I have been.
Sooo you're saying that Tauriga or one of their officers or reps actually threatened you?
How did they threaten you????
I've learned that Tauriga being a public company, will always be open to all kinds of bashing, just like other companies are too. But, Tauriga tries to do what is right and gets bashed for it.....by simply putting out a PR of any kind.
But....if a company doesn't put out PR's on everything....then they get slammed for hiding things.
The Tauriga PR about the addition to the team was of value, stated a new fact or thing the company did and therefore served a PR.
And i can just imagine all the yelling and screaming going on if Tauriga wouldn't have put out a PR of some kind on this event.
But, they did it, what they should do and so many say they don't do enough of.....and still get bashed for it.
So what does Tauriga do from now on.....? Come on here and get a vote before they put out any kind of company PR????
Who decides what is really PR worthy then for a company such as Tauriga to put out????
So now.....Tauriga is bad because they put out PR......
Before they are bad because they don't put out enough PR.......
And now it sounds like Tauriga is being accused of something with their "NEWS RELEASES".....?????????
So basically no matter what Tauriga does.....someone isn't gonna be happy either way?
Lots of companies started with nothing.....and I mean nothing. Many hit rock bottom multiple times before being companies like Microsoft, Dell, and so on, so on, and so on. Some hit it big right off the bat and never had an issue. Some go up and down all the time. That is the risk you take, playing the markets and holding, buying, selling in ideas, concepts and what you see in front of you, the future. There are millions of "what if and when" ideas and companies out there. This is one i believe in.
I see something, i see a future.....and obviously that is me and my little ole opinion. But i see it and have been willing to put my money where my mouth is over the years and continue to do so. If i didn't believe in Tauriga and what is to come....then i wouldn't invest....nor would I in anything.
But, I'm still here and will be. I truly do see something good here for all investors.
I certainly agree. And this addition brings some new paths and doors, prospects and ideas....ways of thinking. When you get a varied group together from varied backgrounds, fields and ranges....you will get a great team.
And....i think we are getting there.
I do, right.
And I have held and added for longer than that post even. I still see the potential here and have held on....and will continue to hold on.......until i personally see something that tells me other wise....which i have not sold yet after 3 years or something like that now.
I personally feel that Seth has been in some crappy situations, made some bad people issues (just like he admitted) and also amde some very good calls....but he also had a BOD to answer to, and at times could only suggest and voice things to the CEO then.....who did some good and some bad as well.
Just like the President of US.....they come into office and things were put in place that take time to change and begin when they are in office (that they didn't put in place)....sometimes a very long time. That is my opinion and i still back Seth and the company.
Tauriga will acquire some interesting things, advance and grow. And i will be there for that as well.
Everyone keeps bashing on Seth and others.....and "quoting" old posts, pulling up PR's that they feel didn't come in time, or soon enough or things played out differently.
OK, well that goes with the territory of running any company or business. Things don't work, something changes last minute, things are in the works or things are on hold.....always changes....just like the stock market. And sometimes that makes things hard for a while. This is very true with companies that go through extreme changes and various events back to back (such as Tauriga). Then Tauriga in this case, has to try and rebuild a damaged reputation and bring back value and acquire things, or fight legal issues, etc.
In time these things will resolve and VERY well for the company and all shareholders/investors.....in my opinion.
Interesting news and quite a step in an exciting direction.
Ok....agreed that settlement could take some time....you never know.
However, the fact that the Cowan group screwed up, royally and hurt TAUG is why the lawsuit was filed anyway. Trying to right the wrong here. And quite honestly, IMO....fight it out all the way. Don't settle for some BS offer. Get the money back and damages and lets move on....JUST LIKE any other company would be doing right now, we are no different here.
Acquisitions are always tricky...no matter who the company is. Lots of details and things to work out. I think it is smart legally to say that the closing and official merger could take 500 days or whatever number gets tossed out there in this case, it is to began the process of finding and acquiring potential acquisitions and get ready to close. IMHO, very HO.....it is not a matter of whether we win or lose....we will win. But, the meat of it all comes down to how much they settle for OR...we are awarded. That can vary as we all know. But i really do think it will be a nice sum for us, which brings back the flow.
It is being done right, legally and the way it should to protect all of us who have invested and stuck with TAUG.
Stay strong and support.
Ok....well that is your opinion of the matter and how things "went down so to speak". But hey....we all got opinions, thoughts and ideas of what IS the truth and WHY. If I or we are getting scammed....then i guess we get scammed....but still, IMHO Tauriga will turn around and do some pretty cool and profitable things in some time and is NOT A SCAM as several people keep saying.
Yes....it is higher today, you're right about THAT part.
The natural wellness line was divested because it was nothing but more debt.....was adding nothing but continued daily losses.
Pilus could not continue and keep current because the Cowan issue arose, causing TAUG to have to stop....sit down and look at what was of immediate value and could work to save TAUG overall.....that is what you do when your ship takes a hit....you plug the hole and repair at all costs....even if you don't like it. But you keep the ship afloat to fight another day.
Immediate action by the CEO,COO, CFO, BOD etc....is what is immediate when you get hit with something like they did. Stop, sit down and look at your cards, what you have and the company officers talk about what is best for the company first. Get on one team and game plan in order to announce what has happened and at then be able to say.....here is what has happened and here is what we are going to do. Then the rest came to vote part.
It's called strategy and planning the next move.
No company will make 100% profitable decisions 100% of the time, look around.....my tax dollars bailed out many who made very serious mistakes. We are all human. Everyone one of us has bought something or made something that we later did not like or did not work like we hoped. Then we tried something else.
That is what you do in order to find the right acquisitions that will generate and be profitable for the LONG TERM and gain something for everyone and keep the company a profitable, and growth related company.
I have said it before.....none of us are sitting in those chairs. We don't see all the cards and know everything. Therefore it's easy to make assumptions, call things something they aren't or flat out BLAST your own opinion about someone or something.
Seth's name has been drug through the mud because of past companies and investments. When you look at exact timelines, who was in charge right before, during or after.....and what decisions were made or put into place before or even after Seth took over, then came back onboard as CEO....things make sense why he is struggling right now to keep Tauriga going so it can become a great acquisitions company. The CEO is the one that holds the cards.....and several times, he was not that card holder. Some things have to be fixed now that the card holder at the time....screwed up.
Yes Seth was there for SOME of the things you and others have spoken about on here......but on some of it he was NOT and was not in any position where he could change it. he could only stress his concern or voice, which IMHO he did......very loudly to Stella....and others in past companies.....even Kimmel.
Deals fall through....happens every day. Look what that did to them....along with other things of course. But that was a huge blow. Tauriga dealt with the same things. Finding out about the Cowan debacle sucked......horrible news. BUT, we had to find out sooner or later. it was a huge blow to us when several things were going on. And just that quick....share price fell, shareholders ran and the money started being used and used fast to stabilize Tauriga and find legal help, basically stop the Tauriga bleeding. There was nothing Taugriga (Seth and BOD) could even do. They asked for help, asked for extensions and so on. But, it was not easy. They had to use lots of the cash we had to pay lawyers, refile, BEG for work papers and so on. It was a slipping slope down. Now, we are where we are. Waiting.....on Cowan's move until our day in court that will prove what they did to us. Several things fell through and have been put on hold because Tauriga needs to secure the future....stop the bleeding. That is what Seth is trying to do. Get us listed again, get filed and current. AND, those things take lots of money to get done.....especially when you deal with re-auditing and trying to get re-filed.
Not easy....hard road and I am very pleased with what has been done and the things that are in the works.
Now, we just need our day in court as well.
Tauriga, Seth and the board are working very hard to turn this company into something of value for any shareholder. The legal issue with the Cowan Group will take some time.....yes....unless they offer a valuable settlement offer. What company has not gone through legal issues and stock prices going up and down depending on the news, PR, and public opinion???? They are do it.
But TAUG has been put in a position that they are climbing out of right now. And it was and is not an easy thing to do. Past management.....and their decisions and choices to act or not put TAUG where it was and is. Seth and the BOD are trying everything they can to get value back, add acquisitions and turn taug into a solid and producing company through acquisitions that will lead to growth and money in all of our pockets. That stuff does NOT happen over night.
But, it is happening and will continue to do so. Slowly for right now. IMHO we will have some up days and some days that drop and scare the crap out of all of us. But that is in the business of turning a company around and gaining with it.
Hold and show support guys.....IMHO it will all be worth it and TAUG will pop up with some things that none of us ever thought about......great deals coming.
I was just called a pumper by someone.....well, i believe in TAUG, so why wouldn't i speak up for TAUG and where the direction is going. I believe in Seth, the BOD and the company overall. So i guess that makes me a pumper, speaking up with my support. But only for the right reasons.....because I believe in where my money is invested.
GO TAUG!
And I still firmly believe the same thing. Things are in the works and some people think that it can just POP and be done in a matter of a week or something. TAUG has had several issues over the past couple years with other people making the issues.....now Seth IS fully back in charge and IS cleaning things up the very best he can. I suggest others realize that as well....hold their shares and buy with SUPPORT; and in some time, the reward will be there for all of TAUG, BOD and shareholders alike. I think, IMHO....people will be surprised what is going to happen when this works out and what will come out of it all.
Eric Clutter
We as long time TAUG'ers (investors, shareholders, board members, consultants and Seth) have had a very long road with TAUG. I still hold my ground that there is great potential in things with TAUG and their holdings, future acquisitions, technology and roads to take.
We just have to get over this obstacle. I'm sure we all know this will not be easy....but i still think IMHO, it will be worth it in the long run. There are all kinds of thoughts, opinions and rumors out there.....and we can all chose to believe what we want to.
I for one am still here and will not be going anywhere.....except to TAUG's and Seth's back and defense. And that is my opinion and choice.
And yes.....i have read all the releases, court filings, opinions and claims......i just still believe in TAUG, Seth and the TAUG Team.
Continue to support.
Feb 05, 2016 (ACCESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- NEW YORK, NY / ACCESSWIRE / February 5, 2016 / Tauriga Sciences, Inc. (otc pink:TAUG) or ("Tauriga" or the "Company"), a diversified life sciences company focused on building its existing technologies and evaluating potential acquisition candidates, today provided shareholders with two important updates relating to its ongoing litigation with its predecessor audit firm Cowan Gunteski & Co. PA ("Cowan Gunteski") and its efforts to regain its status as a fully reporting OTCQB listed company. The Company is also actively evaluating potential acquisition candidate(s) in the life sciences space, should the Company be successful in its current initiatives.
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Tauriga spent the day with Cowan Gunteski, including the firm's Managing Partner ("Donald Cowan"), the former auditing partner William Meyler ("Bill Meyler"), and the malpractice insurance company adjuster ("insurance adjuster") during an all-day mediation session in New York City. While the parties spent hours discussing the pertinent facts as well as potential settlement figures, the parties were unable to reach a resolution. Tauriga, through its legal counsel Silverberg & Weiss ("Paul Silverberg"), was able to determine significant weaknesses in Cowan Gunteski's defense and is increasingly confident in the Company's ability to collect on a substantial judgment. The above-mentioned parties will spend the next few weeks continuing the settlement efforts and expect to move forward with litigation thereafter, if no settlement is reached. It is expected that if litigation continues, that this matter would be concluded in approximately 18 months. Tauriga has requested a trial by jury (Federal Court, Southern District Florida) and expects this will be to its advantage.
With respect to its efforts to regain compliance with the SEC rules that govern fully reporting U.S. based public companies, Tauriga expects that it will finally be in possession of the Fiscal Year 2014 ("FY 2014") work papers that are required by the Company's new audit firm ("current auditor") to re-audit FY 2014 financial statements. The Company, as well as its current auditor, have been requesting that the predecessor audit firm return these FY 2014 work papers since June of 2015. After the predecessor audit firm was publicly censured by PCAOB on July 23, 2015, the current auditor requested the release of the FY 2014 work papers multiple times (this occurred during early August 2015). The Company is hopeful that it will obtain these FY 2014 work papers, in their entirety, in the near term and once in possession of such work papers, the Company will work as quickly as it can to regain its OTCQB listing status as a fully reporting U.S. public Company.
Tauriga's CEO Seth M. Shaw commented "The Company has been working diligently to protect its shareholders through the prosecution of its ongoing litigation against the predecessor audit firm Cowan Gunteski. The Company has been unable to reliably secure funding since its removal from the OTCQB on July 31, 2015, due to the fact that potential investors can no longer depend on Rule 144 exemptions as they pertain to direct investments. The Company is extremely confident in its ability to collect any potential future judgement awarded to Tauriga as a result of the jury trial in Federal Court. Lastly, the Company is not planning any reverse splits at this time and remains hopeful that it will not be necessary to implement one."
Exactly right.
Are you kidding me???? All of that WAS put out and communicated to all. But you make it sound like you did some investigative DD and found the cure for cancer. That info was put out, was stated about time lines, no agreement was met, etc. Yes, it was.
Boy, you just can't stop yourself can you????
It was very clearly put out that TAUG would seek trial if negotiations were not mutually agreed upon and in favor of TAUG.
It was clearly out in the release about the time frame those things CAN take.
And really, i don't like it either...not one bit actually. I absolutely hate being in the red, having losses like i do personally and seeing what has great potential with several companies and prospect acquisitions get halted because of an idiot that screwed us over. But the damages that were done by the audit company are totally bogus, unlawful, and crap. They should be held accountable for that kind of wrong doing. If i were directly in charge, i would go after them in court as well....all the way.....as long as it took....simply to prove a point, stand up for what was right and the fact that they screwed us royally by their actions. De-listing, not supplying papers and documents, lying, hiding their status....bad press and then on top of it....making the stock go down because we are going through all of this. And having to sit here and waste the time replying to people who don't want to think about the right, of it....and not just a quick buck. I am an investor myself....i invest because i like profit, see a great company, see good things for others, like them....etc, etc.....it's different with each investment. But, Right is right and wrong is wrong....they did extremely wrong here....really wrong and look at the overall extent of the damages that have been dealt now. Think about that.
If you were TAUG, would you settle for some stupid amount that doesn't even cover the debt caused by this action of the auditor.....or would you fight for the right thing and the shareholders and future of TAUG???? If all you are worried about is a quick buck.....then sell, take your loss, put a band-aid on it and move on down the road. This is the markets.....things change every minute and will continue to do so....constantly.
That is the reason for my "no guts, no glory" comment.....
As you can see....i took the time to go after them back then even and find out answers.....those were tid bits i felt like sharing back then and by all means not everything. Seth was not CEO the entire time. He only could do so much as a VP, which was right when Stella took over and had all of us fooled as if she was doing such a great job and actually cared....well, she took plenty of pay, sold shares and all kinds of stuff and left us in a mess......the others didn't....they are still here. Stella, IMHO really, really screwed us over....repeatedly. I also had very, very lengthy conversations and flat out arguments with her back then. Seth has always been very honest and informative as he could be due to his position. Stella....no, not so much. I attacked them both about updating us, keeping us all abreast of things and giving some basic PR here and there. Stella refused/hated to do it. Seth does, when there is something to update. And remember guys, TAUG is under negotiations and such with these people. PR can be harmful during these times. And any investor....on the open market or company side can sell shares. Sometimes it is done as a tax right off to help offset the major losses when things are hard....(not their fault at that point still).....these people have families and bills to pay as well. And if selling shares, for whatever reason....even if it was to help TAUG and strengthen relations or business....or taxes or whatever.....that is their business and was reported. You can't blame someone for having to do things to survive. What do you think? These guys are taking home major paychecks right now.....LOL.....no, they are not. They are passing to work hard for TAUG and bring us back up.
The point is....i would and will gladly attack and dig into them as an investor and shareholder.....gladly would then and do still do today, a lot. But i also have my own feelings about this company and the direction it is going, what has and is happening and will happen. Which is all good, with some time. The time factor was an issue then and due to recent issues....time is a factor again. Guess what, that is life...it is not always peaches and cream. And since it was not by their own fault this last issue happened....i am fine with how it is going and what is happening.
I feel very strongly we need to support TAUG on the market....back them, and give them the time to get things right and bring TAUG back around and open future doors. Seth isn't going anywhere....except to the table to fight for us, just as he has been doing, whether you believe it or not....that is fine.
You can pull up any and all old posts and at the time i posted them, that was how i felt then....at that time, with what i knew at that time. I chose to dig, dig, dig and get facts/info and form my own opinions. That is where i stand today and have for quite some time now. I have been with taug for years now and still see the potential/value and future here.
Morning All. Yes....the infamous Doc is back....lol. Hope all the old timers to TAUG like myself are doing well.
First let me say that the messages directed toward Seth are pretty inaccurate and harsh, quite frankly even childish. Until you sit in that seat.....get real with yourself and your opinions. You have no idea what it takes and what has been done for TAUG and us by Seth and the other current members of the team.
Seth has continually tried his best to get TAUG back inline and going like it should. The real TAUG people were dealt crummy hands and deals by Stella and others prior to her even. Seth has been there, done that and is still here fighting for TAUG and each one of us.
Now....i would suggest we all give TAUG the market support needed today. We need that market support for things coming.
I have been in contact with TAUG people since the beginning and given Stella a rash of crap all along....just ask Seth. And i have given Seth a rash of crap too. But, i still firmly believe this company will rebound and grow....and do great things, which will give us all the reward we as investors and shareholders seek.
Now....get buying and give the market support we need right now.
No guts, no glory my friends.
Eric
Thank you TJG.....very nicely put and true to the letter. There is manipulation going on right now as part of these settlements and stock, shares, etc. We are at the mercy of them running out of the shares.
Yes.....true, but most of management does not want to get in the board mud slinging that goes on and accidently get tied up in conversations that might look fishy or cross a legal line. You are more than free to e-mail.....they reply rather quickly....pretty much always. Even to negative stuff. I pick on Stella quite frequently and demand answers as a shareholder. Seth freely speaks to people and answers questions....that he is legally allowed to answer. We don't want our leaders crossing any lines guys.