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Another sale of Vascepa on ebay for $49 a bottle I got an email alert this morning about it. They are selling 10 bottles but has the expiration date of 2011? It is impossible to report him from my phone while driving. So I thought I would give the board a heads up.
Make sure you let Kiwi know when the limo pulls up and six gorgeous hookers get out and head inside.
Ok I get where you are coming from. Per usual Thank You for the education.
Hi JL,
Are you talking about silent MI's? If not could this be something they are still investigating at this point?
How about they know they will have the data Monday but put up a call for a different reason in case results are not great. Then if the results are great announce them if not talk Ascend and RWE. Until you have had more time to look at data. Put a place holder in place in case results are steller.
Well technically speaking and I am no TA guy but I am learning if I were you I think I might have waited on the "Paul Revere" post that AMRN is dead until you see how this right shoulder formation we are currently in forms out.
Just saying.
GD,
Nice analysis the only thing I question is are they going to try to keep it under 3 through 8/31 options expiration.
I also reported both to Ebay and the DEA and then sent them a message. I couldn't believe it but one has already sold 99 dollars and the other is now relisted at 95 dollars currently online and reported by me again. The one that sold actually sent me a nasty message back saying to mind my own business with much trash talk. Unbelievable.
Webster,
According to the latest research your statement may not be accurate about soft Plaque causing 80% of Heart Attacks. See the article link with the latest info on the subject.
https://www.medindia.net/news/healthwatch/soft-or-hard-plaque-which-poses-greater-risk-of-heart-attack-168735-1.htm
Hope this helps,
sts66 TY for the reply. I agree anything that smells fishy(oxidized) can't be good for you and I will not take it anymore. Also as BioChica stated Omega Via is on Amarin's ITC hit list but PharmEPA is not. So Omega Via's life span may be shorted very soon.
Just so you know and I am not trying to mislead anyone a box is (60 x 500mg) so you have to buy two boxes to get (120 x 500mg) matching what you get from a single bottle of Omega Via 500 for a little over 10 dollars more. FYI
That was another reason I choose to go with PharmEPA is that Omega Via was not totally truthful in my eyes.
Another question to ask is could rancidity(fishy smell) cause my LDL-C to go up?
Hope this helps,
The reason I say PharmEPA is a better product is:
I took both products for a year and compared my results.
1) When I was on Omega Via 500 my LDL-C was up so there is DHA in those
pills. My LDL-C was up about 30% with no changes in diet and carefully
fasting and cutting out drinking, breads, and read meat before my
blood work. I then switched to PharmEPA and my LDL-C returned to my
normal levels.
2) I also cut open each of the pills and did a smell test and Omega Via
smells like fish (rancidity?), but PharmEPA smells like lemon with no
fish smell at all.
I never had any fish burps on either and my numbers were all good on both except for the above mentioned LDL-C change on Omega Via.
Hope this helps,
Yes if you do the math 120 capsules of Omega Via 500 is $27.45 to get 120 capsules of PharmEPA you have to buy two boxes of 60 500mg capsules at 19.01 x 2 = 38.02. So yes the PharmEPA is over 10 dollars more but it is also a better product. So you weight the costs and decide and if you can't get Omega Via is something else to consider.
Hope this helps,
Glad I could help.
Another alternative to Omega Via 500 on Amazon is PharmEPA and in my experience it is a better choice then Omega Via 500 and about the same price. You can ask BioChia or myself about it as he is currently taking it with great success but I now have a script for Vascepa but did take it and Omega Via for quite a while.
Hope this helps,
Awesome I am beating the rush and started private island shopping. And you still stuck in mom's basement?
Smart ass or not that is in a documented letter so if someone like AZN wanted to convert there non sell able drug to a DS couldn't they just reference the Woodcock letter?
Just saying.
That is interesting but begs the question why did Janet Woodcock in a letter to Amarin state if you want to claim what the DS industry does on the label "may have Cardiovascular benefit" then repackage yourself as a DS.
The more I think about this the more I agree with an earlier poster that possibly AZN is behind this. Why?
What might AZN get out of this?
1) It hurts AMRN's stock price so a little pay back in the short term. We see every time one of these comes out the stock price gets driven down.
2) They are running a trial on a drug that can not get to market due to AMRN patents, but it could steal much of the DS sales since it could be sold as a DS with an outcomes study behind it and it is filed with the FDA. If the ITC or FDA crack down on DS that leaves the door wide open for AZN.
3) It also helps AMRN after Reduce-it and if they partner or buy AMRN again it helps AZN.
Just some thoughts,
See link below it states the basic science deadline is 8/17/2018 and explicitly states (no extensions), but the Clinical science deadline is 8/10/2018 but it does not explicitly state no extensions.
https://professional.heart.org/professional/EducationMeetings/MeetingsLiveCME/ScientificSessions/UCM_323242_Submit-Science.jsp
Interesting to say the least.
He wants to see it break through the ice line with volume just as his chart described. This includes breaking the 50 and 100 day moving averages. Which is smart and really in the grand scheme of things it is not that big of a difference between 2.90 and 3.20 where you buy in at. I do not care if he is right or wrong but I appreciate different view points on what the stock is doing.
What I was hoping is this maybe the start of a possible leak but only time will tell. I am of course assuming they are currently looking at the data.
Kiwi how about this part.
Moreover, achieved non-HDLC and TG levels significantly modulated plaque progression–regression rates across broad categories of residual cardiovascular risk, including those with achieved LDLC levels <70 mg/dL. These findings provide mechanistic support for the possible roles of non-HDLC and TG to more definitively emerge as future therapeutic targets, especially in statin-treated patients requiring secondary prevention.
No what you have been saying forever is with heavy statin use getting ldlc under a hundred mg/dl that there is not much more benefit you can get with Vascepa.
You are not following your own big picture. For anyone who is nervous here if you click on the post I am replying to you will see we are still riding right around the lower line and the RSI is just about in the 30's which means this baby is way over sold. I think AVII posted a call for this to start it's next run the first week of July and I think that is a great call other than I am thinking things will start to improve next week.
FlyGuy I have learned alot from your posts and for the rest of you hold tight there is no leak yet.
Kiwi,
Good Luck I wish you well on your medication switch, my mother could not handle how she felt being on it. I hope it works out for you and I truly hope you don't end up in the 5% group considered not statistically significant taking Repatha during there 2 year trial.
Rose,
I have heard about many of these companies that only offer auto ship and you have to put your credit card on file with them. They say you just stop your auto ship when you want to stop. Then they never stop charging your card and sending you product unless you cancel your card. I have had this happen with two people I know that ordered other products like this on line you are always wise to check with the BBB before ordering anything.
Kiwi,
Don't worry most on the board ignore the content of your posts and just corrects the inaccuracies.
Oh and if I can be as lucky as HDG and have you ignore me or not respond to me here is a big FU.
Now let's take it one step further the PCSK9 trial Odyssey had a 5% death rate in the treatment arm after two years, but conveniently that is not stat significant and brushed under the rug with the comment if we ran the trial longer that would have reversed. Yeah right.
Anyone moving onto PCSK9 treatment or increasing there statin dose should think long and hard about that.
You know raf I find it interesting that the statin guidelines changed in 2013 for increasing the use of statins and then things start to go down hill after such guidelines have had time to take effect in the general population. Hmmmm strange.
Kiwi anything?
You are now the second person I had heard of such problems with Repatha. My mother had very similar problems and just could not function and stopped it after two or three injections and it significantly lowered her numbers as well.
Thank you for sharing.
When I was researching this I came accross this web site that has great info.
"Has the EE form been shown to be clinically effective?
The vast majority of clinical studies examining supplemental omega-3s for various health parameters have employed the EE form, according to omega-3 researcher Dr. Jing Xuan Kang, Associate Professor at Harvard, and as reflected by a recent Mayo Clinic review (1). The well known ‘GISSI’ secondary prevention trial is one example. In this study of over 11,300 patients who had experienced recent heart attacks, those receiving about 850 mg daily of combined EPA and DHA (in the EE form) for 3 ½ years had a reduced risk of death from all causes plus nonfatal heart attack and stroke, as well as significant risk reduction for cardiovascular death, especially sudden death (2,3)."
http://www.sciencebasedhealth.com/Fish-Oil-EE-vs-TG-omega-3s-which-is-better-W119.aspx
I will be researching this more later tonight.
sts66,
Thanks for taking the time to look into this. It appears they either choose the TGN 4020 or the EE 4020. I am going to assume they use the TGN 4020 which i take to be the triglyceride form of fish oil and not the EE. Also we do not know the how rancid there fish oil is if it is not in the EE form which could be the problem.
When I was researching this I came accross this web site that has great info.
"Has the EE form been shown to be clinically effective?
The vast majority of clinical studies examining supplemental omega-3s for various health parameters have employed the EE form, according to omega-3 researcher Dr. Jing Xuan Kang, Associate Professor at Harvard, and as reflected by a recent Mayo Clinic review (1). The well known ‘GISSI’ secondary prevention trial is one example. In this study of over 11,300 patients who had experienced recent heart attacks, those receiving about 850 mg daily of combined EPA and DHA (in the EE form) for 3 ½ years had a reduced risk of death from all causes plus nonfatal heart attack and stroke, as well as significant risk reduction for cardiovascular death, especially sudden death (2,3)."
http://www.sciencebasedhealth.com/Fish-Oil-EE-vs-TG-omega-3s-which-is-better-W119.aspx
I will be researching this more later tonight.
bfrost,
Thanks for posting this article and further increasing my confidence in Vascepa.
My guess is this is off the shelf fish oil pills.
The main problem with using this type of fish oil is contaminants and rancidity. Which I would guess would drastically change the effects of this supplementation.
Not sure if the high level of DHA was also a problem but I will bet there were many runs to the bathroom during this testing.
Raf,
Something must be wrong as Kiwi states he has been there more than anyone so that makes him the resident expert. Why bother with the petty detail of statistics. Thank you for taking the time to show the truth behind the dribble.
If you just treat everyone's perdition much like horseshoes and hand grenades "close is good enough" then the board will be a much happier place. If you want to laugh at wrong predictions go over to ST and read Jesus Navasomething that guy has a like 1 percent track record. I usually just go there for laughs come here for real stuff and a lot of repetition from Kiwi. :)
You can single me out I don't care I am a big boy and can handle rejection or being ignored for that matter.
I looked at the long list of side effects of this drug link below.
https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-166762/jardiance-oral/details
I am thinking if I am a Cardiologist with a patient enrolled in a CVD study already like RI even though RI is designed for 15% reduction and jardiance shows more. After reading the side effects and it cannot be used with other diabetic medicines I would consult my patient to stay were they were like babr states especially with the trial almost over and see where we end up, but that is just a difference between me and you. I do have trouble believing you want to incur more side effects than you are already dealing with on your current prescription portfolio.
Thanks for your reply and not ignoring me.
By your description he could be "bipolar". I am sure you could get a script for this hey kiwi.
Don't forget the short on time or doesn't answer you when called out. I recently got a no answer when I asked him if he was taking this miracle drug Jardiance since it is so life and study changing. By the way thank you babr and sts66 for putting some truth around Jardiance and it's unlikely use in RI.
I am with Raf and ziploc on this one for the same reason ziploc states but he posted before I did and I just updated and read his post. When you sign up for a study you agree to the parameters of the study. One of the parameters is you may get the placebo and expire as a data point. I believe once you have signed the paperwork to be a lab rat of which science is interested in you only as a data point. There is no Jardiance or any other addition of medication in the study. That does not mean Jardiance cannot be added to your medication portfolio by your doctor as a needed medication, but I would be willing to guess you would be treated as a drop out if this was the case.
You nor AVII knows for sure what the protocol around Jardiance is so don't put a feather in your cap like you were right all along. Unless of course you want to research this to it's full extent and report back. Oh I forgot this is kiwi never mind.
So Kiwi if this amazing drug Jardiance is so wonderful right up there with statins tell me are you taking it. Since it is so wonderful and life and study changing?
Thank you for the history on this, but now you have to apply a little more common sense to what you believe.
Your first attempt they told you your LDL-C was to high.
Reading between the lines - We don't want this guy in the trial he is not
what we are looking for but lets be nice and
help him get on Crestor which may or may not
get him below 100 and if it does the trial
recruiting will be closed by that time.
Then the trial recruiting slowed and you were able to have them give you another look.
Reading between the lines - Dang this guy is back just make something up
that he is not what we are looking for in this
trial.
JMO
I also agree with the other posters that anyone in the trial wanting to alter there medication would have to be reviewed and unlikely to be allowed. Remember the participants signed off on this study of for science. Science doesn't care about them just results.