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How many of those 'children' with their 1000 investment are actually part of your 'group' - the BIGGER group - or don't they count?
That comment was a tad disrespectful of those traders and their investment and belief in you, no matter how minimal that dollar value was.
A lot of veterans and others don't play with your money but it doesn't make them less than - imo.
This is kind of interesting in that a business with $$$millions in assets and anticipated revenue would need people on a penny stock board feed them information on cheaper and/or adequate firms that could audit them.
Quite a different projection from the short term hold of $.03 to $.05 - now it's $.02 before the end of August or 3 1/2 months after it was called...so is what you are saying is that this is just going to go sideways, with flippers buying and selling for the next 6 weeks even after financials are released and PR's have been posted? Those projections by some people shouting about $.25 are being revised to $.02?
Spill the beans - what do you know that makes you sure that September is the month big money is going to come to all who buy this thing....tell us - instill confidence in us with this company
Long enough.
My point was specific.
You (and a few other team members) called short term projections almost 2 months ago that have never been seen.
There was a long term projection called that has never been seen.
My point was specific - if you called a short term (2-3 wk) projection that was never met, a long term projection that was never met - why would anyone believe you when you say it's going to hit .25 in less than a month???
There is a certain amount of credibility lost when making specific claims that don't pan out.
You aren't really using CBux projections as 'the gospel' are you? Just go back and see the call almost 2 months ago - short term yay!!! baby will ride up to .02-.03...long term this baby will ride the sky!
Problem - after 2 months it never once hit the short term projection so okay - $.25 in 3 weeks ....you have a great sense of humor!
What action? Did I miss that $.02 pps climb? :(
OMG! You mean, you mean, you mean.....with all that cash I might get something for my 800 commerce? Nobody would lie to us would they?
Just checking in to see if there is news about my 800 shares - I see not.
After a year of waiting for some sort of information to come out on 800 and we remain in limbo - I think it speaks to a real lack of credibility in the company.
and for almost the month before that..
NTEK is not Netflix - Netflix is streaming 4k -
Yes - they are history as it sinks lower -
Seems not much interest - people initially got in on the pump, a lot ditched and sold - just as many left sitting on losses when the pps dropped out from under them - a lot of cheerleading on this one since May - projections short term that didn't pan out - now short term is long term - I think a lot of people have lost faith and interest. Who knows, next PR might inject some enthusiasm into this but that didn't happen from the last few so it's anyone's guess.
Just my observation -
I see we are roaring out of the gate with - silence everyone?
I guess it hasn't been all that easy - a month later things seem to have stalled -
Nobody is 'crying' as you say.
You entirely missed my point - try again to get it.
I have watched these boards for a very long time and it is old when time and again, the onus for every bad play is put upon the individual who followed someone else.
There is shared accountability - and so it also rests on individuals or groups who post exact pps values and within specific timelines, knowing that they have many followers taking this as advice.
You can talk all you want about personal responsibility, but that works two ways - as does integrity, honesty, trust and so on.
If you insist that there is NONE of those things in any part of penny stock trading, then every single person here, anyone who has paid for charts, graphs, alerts, forums, closed group membership, should step back and walk away from all those groups because not one of them is trustworthy.
A great many people, including a lot here as we've seen, definitely follow others for advice, support etc - if you believe you can trust nobody, all those who lead these groups might argue with you that THEY are different.
While I understand what you are saying - the point in matter is just opposite in this discussion.
When a group/person tells you about a good find - that's one thing.
When the same people then go on to give pps projections and don't stop there, but continue on pumping with dollar values - that's another. Then to add to that mix, those same people come on and tell their followers not to sell or they are stupid, or will lose money...that news will come, is coming soon, this week, next week...it IS directing those who align themselves or affiliate themselves with a group in some manner.
In essence I agree, it would get tiring to have people expect you to call a buy and sell - on the other hand when the top crew do exactly that, you can't possibly complain about someone asking.
This could very well be a great stock - we'll see - it's just that when people follow in trust, not herd mentality but individual trust for many reasons, the actual buy and sell information and then they feel all the other information is contrary, I think they should be able to ask questions about any loss.
Again, it is all about personal responsibility here, but we also have to recognize that there are a lot of people that do follow people either in a group or individually and for many reasons, and so it becomes a shared responsibility.
This is money after all -
You are absolutely right - personal responsibility means the individual bears the brunt of their choices. No problem there.
What I am pointing at is that if you have a group of people who subscribe to your wisdom, experience, knowledge and if you use all those things to grab their attention and loyalty, and they in turn pay it back in kind, following it up with a comment/implying 'it's all your fault or nobody forces you'...really devalues and splits the group into those feeling as if they were used and those using.
Now, I am in no way intimating that you are any of those things - nor involved in those things - but when I read other posters asking or pointing out things said by the alleged leader or leaders or cheerleaders of a group to their followers that appear to be contrary to other things they have said - then I think the followers have a right to question and opine.
I'm okay with any decision I make - I'm speaking generally overall so please don't shout, it's not necessary.
Oh please.
That sort of comment always reminds me of an analogy as in; a person knowingly hands someone else a plate of bad food and then when the individual gets sick, blames the person for taking the food and then having the audacity to eat it.
Blink...blink...must have an eye infection .....:)
BTW - I won't give you my shares, but I'll sure sell you them at what I paid - if you are sure that the pps is going to zoom, it'll be a real deal for you!
I've read everything everyone has posted - that's why I quoted just one of them -
Let me remind you of this post - news has come and news has gone, cheerleaders have touted a short term pps of 03 and longer time a pps much higher - 3 weeks is short term - 3 months is long - it hasn't even hit the projected 'before news' pps and nowhere near that 'short term' projection - sometimes it is about a shove with massive news and great volume, sometimes it isn't okay to sit with the car idling and believing that it will never run out of gas without a fill up...
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Doesn't need a push, it needs a major shove to reach expectations..
But there's been news - it isn't moving up again?
No, my suggestion was perhaps you could provide us with the reasons why, other than 'its holding', that you say it's great.
Not a good answer.
You can buy all you want and tie up valuable funds in a company going nowhere or use your funds in a company who works with the shareholder.
Depends on your personal trading style - this thing has the ability to rise and quickly, but why bother investing, if the company doesn't keep updating info, motivating investors?
There are a lot of penny companies out there running a thousand times -
Any legit news or any news period. This is pathetic. At the very least give us some news and pay for some promotion to put some life back into the thing.
This thing is ridiculous - it's been 2 months without any news and it's flatlined. The company needs to step up and release something positive and progressive and put some eyes on this - nothing worse than a company who doesn't provide regular and solid updates because it can deflate the value of the share in no time.
If you believe it's doing 'great', perhaps you could provide more detail on why you think it's doing a fine job.
The pps has fallen, no newas on the hemp project - those two things alone don't necessarily point to the company nor the stock doing 'great'.
Then there should have been a start to the project within the past 2 weeks as well as a PR telling everyone what was happening. IF this was PIHN as we all like to think it was - without the company giving feedback, they are leaving the shareholder standing in the dark all alone.
The majority of 'gamblers' are gullible and some quite trusting - some don't have the hours in the day required to do charting, read boards, read forums,use twitter, read filings and be up to date on every single thing a company is doing - and in fact, with some companies, the amount of research required to do a thorough search and connect the dots, can be beyond the scope of a great many people. Factor in that people believe they are investors while others proclaim to be just traders and you can't fault a lot of folks from trying to look for opinions or advice from others who purport to be more wise or experienced than they. There are people selling charts or how to blogs or advice on how to learn and buy and sell thus when people 'buy' into those services, reputations are on the line when it comes to shares rising or falling. While I can agree that nobody should 'invest/play' with more than they can afford to lose, as far as not following or listening to anyone - I guess it depends on your personal outlook. People pay financial managers all the time to move their funds around for them - because they believe the manager knows more than they do. It can be a gamble all the way around.
How'd it feel when it sunk even further? This is getting pretty sad.
Interest will come much, much sooner if we believe what the other posters have been claiming of NEWS coming soon, possibly today. If news doesn't come, people will lose interest as their faith in the company delivering begins to disappear. Of course just mho..
Thank you.
Which directs back to my 'soon' comment that 'soon' would mean today and not months from now.
But they've also mentioned shorter term projections of .03-.05 +, as well as great news coming SOON. One takes it that 'soon' isn't 3 weeks down the road but within a day or so and one also takes a shorter term projection as within a few weeks not months.
Just thought I'd check in and see how all those shares are holding up for ya'll...from the lack of trading and posting I think I got my answer.
I didn't see that - why didn't they ask him about the 800 shares?
LOL...Panic Selling???!!!! Let's get real. This thing has been dead in the water for ages - it's not like buyers are lined up waiting to pounce.