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That gives me a hint that there is some important news coming out right afterwards. Many times the company will discuss and provide the information to company employees right before they make the information public. I've seen this done many times at my company. Usually it is done right before the market opens though but it doesn't have to be... We'll see what happens tomorrow morning... I'm getting excited! lol
Yes, that clears things up for me.
The email reminder I have from Investor Relations states the Investor update will begin on:
Tuesday, Feb 23, 2016 12:30PM - 1:30PM EST
Is there another investor relations call earlier in the morning? I'm getting confused...
I agree and did the same taking my "happy share price" much lower than it previously was. I continue to feel NIOBF has life changing potential for those that accumulated a significant long position. The SP drop just allowed that life changing moment to happen sooner and hopefully, more substantially than before the drop.
I am eagerly awaiting this special meeting on Feb 23rd to see what Mark and his group has to say. Like most people on this board, I hope there is significant economic news that will support the SP's rise to what the current valuation should be...
Good luck to all the longs... Next week may be the start of something beautiful!
Here is a follow up on an article I posted yesterday. The car is not cute but the technology is!
http://www.computerworld.com/article/3034318/emerging-technology/this-car-travels-300-miles-on-just-85oz-of-hydrogen-gas.html
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The Rasa hydrogen fuel cell car has a top speed of 60mph
The Rasa hydrogen fuel cell car from Riversimple Movement has a chassis made from carbon fiber composite skin weighing less than 90lbs.
The Rasa is a two-door hatchback with a carbon fiber chassis that weighs less than 90lbs.
While a Rasa prototype, which has a top speed of 60mph, is currently being tested on European roads, a one-year public beta trial of 20 vehicles with prospective customers is being proposed for later this year. The company did not release any pricing information on the Rasa.
The car is expected to be on the market beginning in 2018 through a "sale of service" ownership model, which is similar to a lease where a driver has a fixed monthly fee and mileage allowance. With a sale-of-service agreement, Riversimple covers all repairs, maintenance, insurance and fuel expenses of its new, two-door hatchback.
"The Rasa engineering prototype marks another key milestone in bringing an affordable and highly-efficient hydrogen-powered car to market. We really have started from a clean sheet of paper," Hugo Spowers, founder of Riversimple Movement, said in a statement. "The car is simple, light and fun in every respect."
When the vehicle is in motion, hydrogen passes through a small 8.5 kilowatt (kW) fuel cell (the size currently used in forklift trucks), which has the equivalent to 11 horsepower. As the hydrogen passes through the fuel cell, it combines with oxygen to form water and electricity to drive the motors positioned in each of the four wheels. Water is the only exhaust.
More than 50% of the kinetic energy produced under braking is recovered and turned into electricity to boost acceleration via a bank of super-capacitors. The result is a range of up to 300 miles on 85 ounces (1.5 kilograms) of hydrogen; that's an estimated fuel economy equivalent to 250mpg.
Development of the Rasa was supported by a £2 million grant from the Welsh government in 2015.
Rasa fuel cell car Riversimple
Major automakers around the world have announced plans for working hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
One major issue facing the clean-energy vehicles is a lack of infrastructure to support them -- in other words, the lack stations at which to fuel the cars.
Last year, Toyota, Nissan and Honda announced they will increase efforts to produce more hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and plan to work together to build more fueling stations to support them.
Despite slow market uptake, Hyundai Motor Co. said last year that hydrogen fuel cell vehicles represent the future of eco-friendly cars more than all-electric vehicles.
Hyundai, the largest carmaker in South Korea, began selling its Tucson Fuel Cell SUV in 2014.
Here is the actual link to the article I referenced:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2077533-test-driving-the-hydrogen-car-that-makes-a-little-go-a-long-way/
A nice little article on a new hydrogen care that's being developed in Europe that uses hydrogen power along with supercapacitors to make the car go.... HYSR can help with the hydrogen infrastructure problem at some point down the road. Or at least I am praying that they do!
HUGO SPOWERS puts his foot down. The car leaps forward, pressing me into the passenger seat. I’m zipping through London in a new kind of vehicle: its motors are in its wheels, it brakes without friction and it can drive 480 kilometres on one tank of the lightest element in the universe.
Spowers is taking me for a spin in the Rasa, a prototype hydrogen car that emits only water vapour. Trying to power a normal car with hydrogen usually requires a bulky fuel cell capable of delivering the same output as a combustion engine – typically around 100 kilowatts. But the Rasa, built by start-up Riversimple in Llandrindod Wells, UK, does things differently.
Rather than making a fuel cell that can power a normal car, Spowers has designed a car around the fuel cell. This means it requires 10 times less power than an ordinary car. But even with the lightweight design, this power is only enough to keep the vehicle cruising. So the Rasa has another trick to generate the bursts of energy needed for acceleration.
The Rasa uses a sort of high-tech electricity trap called a supercapacitor. Because they store energy as electricity, rather than in chemical form, supercapacitors can release large amounts of energy faster than anything else – perfect for giving a car some oomph. The hydrogen fuel cell sends a constant trickle of energy into a supercapicitor, then the whole lot is released when the car needs it.
“Rather than designing a fuel cell for a normal car, Spowers has designed a car around the fuel cell”
I wince the first time Spowers brakes at a pedestrian crossing, because I know how the Rasa’s brakes work. They are entirely electric. Instead of using brake pads and friction, the Rasa slows down by reversing the motor in each wheel. This turns the motors into generators, recapturing the car’s kinetic energy and pushing it into the supercapacitor. Friction-based brakes only come into play for emergency stops.
“In a normal braking event, we will recover about 50 per cent of the kinetic energy of the car,” says Spowers. For comparison, a similar system in the Toyota Prius only recovers 10 per cent of this energy.
Despite the Rasa’s clever tricks, is the use of hydrogen fuel in cars a non-starter? The Tesla Model S has taken the automotive world by storm, suggesting that running cars on lithium-ion batteries is the way forward.
Nick Asselin-Miller of sustainability consultancy Ricardo says it’s not that simple. “The energy density of hydrogen under high pressure is much higher than you can store in batteries,” he says. A hydrogen tank and fuel cell gets you a lot farther than a battery of the same size and weight.
The electricity grid isn’t ready for widespread adoption of electric cars either. “If you converted the entire vehicle fleet to electric, that would place a huge strain on the grid,” says Asselin-Miller. “A doubling in grid capacity is required. Not going to happen soon.” Hydrogen offers an alternative that is likely to have a place alongside battery power.
The Rasa prototype is not a normal car in looks or function. And the infrastructure to support hydrogen cars is embryonic at best. But when we accelerate swiftly and silently, encased in carbon fibre and leaving nothing in our wake but water, I can’t help but feel like I’m sitting in the future.
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I used the recent pullback to cross the 50,000 share mark as well and I am glad that I did! I was hoping for the price to remain low for a little while longer so I could continue to load up. The good thing is that I surpassed my minimum goal set for this stock and I can just sit back and enjoy the ride going forward! Hopefully, there will be a little pullback where I can add additional shares... but if not I will still be elated with the share price increase. This should be an exciting 2016!!!
I couldn't agree with you more. One more month or two below $.50/share will allow me to significantly add to my position which is already pretty good. I am ok with what I have but I will take advantage of any share price softness and add to my position!
Lol That depends if they are directly employed by NioCorp and if they had the sense to participate!
They usually allow everyone to participate in their stock option programs. In December 2014 this is what they released:
Vancouver, British Columbia – December 22, 2014 – NioCorp Developments Ltd. (“NioCorp” or the “Company”) (TSX-V: NB, OTCQX: NIOBF, FSE: BR3) wishes to announce the granting of incentive stock options to its directors, officers, consultants and employees, under its Stock Option Plan, for the purchase of up to 3,870,000 common shares of the Company for a period of 3 years at a price of $0.80 per share.
As you can see even consultants had the option to participate.
I don't think this is abnormal as this is not the first time Niocorp has granted millions of stock options to it's employees. On January 10, 2014 Niocorp issued 2,285,000 million shares in stock options. On June 4, 2015 they did 150,000 and on December 22, 2014 they issued another 3,870,000.
There are many people have invested in this company for a long time accumulating a considerable amount of shares. A significant share increased is expected after the BFS that can financially change their lives. This where they may consider selling their shares to bank the life changing gain! Well that's what I'm contemplating doing with my gain. The only thing that will alter that is if dividends are going to be paid
I have the same issue. Sell and make a boat load of money if share price increases or hold and collect dividends if they pay them... If the dividends are good I may just hold the shares... Does anyone know how much potential dividends may be? I know Mark mentioned potentially paying them but I am wondering what they could be.... Thoughts?
Below is a nice article I came across in my Yahoo feed... I especially like the part discussing using hydrogen from green sources as well as the potential to store energy over long time periods.
Hydrogen Fuel Cells Are Becoming Too Big to Ignore
A technology few consumers have ever seen in action could upend energy as we know it.
The boom in electric vehicles has brought a lot of attention to batteries for applications like energy storage and transportation. But it's not the only energy storage medium that's growing at a rapid rate.
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), the fuel cell industry nearly doubled in 2014 to $2.2 billion with more than 50,000 fuel cells shipped. Here's what you need to know about this important industry.
What are fuel cells?
Here's how the EIA describes fuel cells:
Fuel cells are devices that electrochemically combine hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity, water, and heat. Unlike batteries, fuel cells continuously generate electricity as long as a source of fuel is supplied. Fuel cells do not burn fuel, making the process quiet, pollution-free, and two to three times more efficient than combustion. A fuel cell system can be a truly zero-emission source of electricity when hydrogen is produced from nonpolluting sources.
In short, a fuel cell is an engine that consumes hydrogen to produce electric energy and water. The liquid coming from the tailpipe of a fuel cell vehicle is likely more pure than the water coming from your faucet.
The reason fuel cells are worth watching for investors is the incredible market opportunity they present. There's almost no energy market that fuel cells couldn't disrupt, meaning this is potentially a multitrillion-dollar market.
More markets love fuel cells
The biggest reason fuel cells have a higher ceiling than batteries is because they can run continuously. While a battery has to be charged and discharged, as long as a fuel cell doesn't run out of fuel, it could theoretically run forever.
This is what Toyota (NYSE:TM) thinks will give it an advantage in refueling fuel cells over electric vehicles. The thesis behind investing in cars like the Toyota Mirai is that a five-minute stop to refuel will be more attractive than hours to charge an electric vehicle. And considering that a fuel cell creates electricity to power the vehicle, there doesn't need to be a drop-off in performance. That advantage grows when you move into other fuel cell applications.
Plug Power (NASDAQ:PLUG) and Ballard Power Systems (NASDAQ:BLDP) have built their fuel cell growth on the back of forklifts in warehouses, which need to run 24/7. Forklifts have run on batteries traditionally, but it saves time and money to fill them with hydrogen fuel rather than charging a bank of batteries all day long. According to the EIA, more than 2,500 fuel cells for material handling vehicles were sold in 2014, and that figure will likely grow in coming years.
The other major market fuel cells could disrupt is electric energy. Some buildings are starting to install fuel cells as a form of back-up electricity, but that could just be the start of the use of hydrogen in the electric industry. Europe is testing using electrolyzers to create hydrogen straight from renewable energy plants. From there, it can go into a hydrogen vehicle, or into the gas grid and stored for later use.
More advantages of hydrogen over batteries
For vehicles or materials handling, the shorter refill times are an advantage over batteries, but in energy storage, hydrogen holds a massive advantage. Batteries are great at storing a limited amount of energy for minutes or hours, but they aren't good for storage on a massive level.
With enough storage tanks, a hydrogen-producing station could produce clean hydrogen and store it for weeks or months at a time. This dynamic gives energy storage options to maximize value creation and potentially eliminate the intermittency challenge with renewable energy.
The fuel cell market becoming a multibillion-dollar market means costs will likely start coming down, and eventually, energy storage using hydrogen could be an economical reality.
Hydrogen has a big upside
Electric vehicles have been all the rage for a couple of years now, but when we look out decades, I think there's far greater upside for fuel cells. At just $2.2 billion in the U.S., it's still a small market, but it's growing rapidly, and with so many potential uses, fuel cells will likely lower costs and become more attractive in the multitrillion-dollar energy market.
With the potential ability to disrupt transportation, energy storage, and back-up power, I think the sky is the limit for hydrogen, and it's time for investors to start paying attention to this opportunity.
Hello All,
I found a nice article about Hypersolar on my Yahoo feed this morning written by Green Car Reports.... Nothing really new but it's nice to see their story getting some traction with their voltage achievement!
HyperSolar Reaches Voltage To Produce Hydrogen With Solar Energy
Green Car Reports
Green Car Reports
Stephen Edelstein
September 28, 2015
HyperSolar claims to have reached a major milestone in its quest to produce hydrogen using solar energy.
The startup hopes to produce hydrogen gas from water using artificial photosynthesis, on a commercial scale.
To do that, it has worked to achieve the 1.5 volts it views as the practical voltage needed for commercial hydrogen production.
DON'T MISS: HyperSolar Nears Voltage Needed For Solar Hydrogen Production
And shortly after surpassing 1.4 volts, HyperSolar says it has reached that threshold.
If this process becomes commercially viable, it could vastly reduce the carbon footprint of hydrogen fuel cell cars, which are about to become a more significant presence on U.S. roads.
The Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell is already available in California, and will soon be followed by the Toyota Mirai and a new Honda model as well.
HyperSolar Reaches Voltage To Produce Hydrogen With Solar Energy
University of Iowa researchers working with HyperSolar on hydrogen production via photosynthesis
Most commercial hydrogen today is produced using natural gas as a feedstock.
A byproduct of reforming hydrogen from natural gas or other fossil fuels is carbon dioxide--a greenhouse gas.
But HyperSolar claims it can produce hydrogen from water, using only sunlight.
The company has been working with a research team at the University of Iowa to refine the process.
The same team previously achieved the goal of 1.23 volts, viewed as the minimum needed to split water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen.
Researchers achieved 1.4 volts in July, and plan to continue increasing voltage and seeking out efficiency gains.
That includes combining previous work in cutting the cost to solar cells with a more efficient catalysts to produce a self-contained hydrogen-generation unit.
Researchers hope to identify materials that interface with current hydrogen-production catalysts to improve the efficiency of the sunlight-based generation process.
2015 Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell, 2016 Toyota Mirai at hydrogen fueling station, Fountain Valley, CA
2015 Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell, 2016 Toyota Mirai at hydrogen fueling station, Fountain Valley, CA
They also plan to further increase voltage, with a new goal of at least 1.7 volts.
This will allow for the use of cheaper catalysts, without significant loss in hydrogen-production efficiency, HyperSolar says.
MORE: Hydrogen Fueling Station Reliability: 'An Issue For Some Time' To Come
"We are focused on identifying the next steps for the technology that will make it possible for us to scale up to make a commercial technology that can produce hydrogen fuel at or near the point of distribution, using only water and sunlight," said HyperSolar CEO Tim Young.
In addition to the research team at the University of Iowa, HyperSolar also works with researchers at the University of California, Santa Barbara.
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Jose,
Which news article were you referring to when you mentioned this in your recent post:
"Also....that promotion saying HYSR has sellable value now...and investors should hold had me thinking. Maybe they know something we don't....not very sure."
I searched the most recent ones I could find and didn't come across it. Please, let me know if you can.
Much thanks!
I agree with you CID. A lot of work needs to be done and part of me feels like it wasn't done when it should have been. I mean, what was the rest of HYSR doing while the the researchers were working on reaching 1.5V? There should have been work on a prototype or at least some design work done beyond the baggie the displayed on their videos. I though the new research team was going to be focus on commercialization... What progress have they made?
I have been long HYSR for years and I am disappointed that some additional work hasn't been done outside of the obtaining the needed voltage. Now that they achieved that goal, I hope to see rather quick progress on moving the research to an actual business that produces revenues.
That progress will support a higher PPS...
Good luck to all! I am still holding strong!
No I haven't seen this news release on T.V. but I did see it on my Yahoo news feed... Very exciting to see it there!
It is my hope that HYSR will start discussing a timeline on when they will begin full scale models and possible customers that they will begin working with. I am excited HYSR finally hit their major goal of reaching 1.5v! Now I want to see their plan of developing the business behind the achievement. It is time for HYSR to show how they will monetize the years of research they put in and the success they finally achieved!!!!
I'm glad I held long for so long and I am looking forward to an electrifying increase to the PPS!!!!
Good luck everyone!!!!
That makes sense inversor86. I guess I am enjoying the softness in the stock right especially after the PEA2 as I want more shares at lower prices. I've been with NIOB since early 2011 and the light at the end of the tunnel is blinding! I've been long for a long time and I am still going strong! The PEA2 gave me even more strength and I'm looking forward to the conference call, BFS, and mine construction in 2016/2017.
I couldn't agree with you more bernice! I am actually happy that the shares haven't exploded right now as it gives me a chance to load up on them. I'm moving some assets around to acquire more NIOB and this weakness in the SP is helping me out a lot. Why are people worrying about the short term SP when in the long run this stock should explode? The large CAPEX will most likely be reduced in the future and the IRR is much better than it was. Maybe you can help me understand why some people are so disappointed...
Traders will take their profit as soon as they can, at the first stall. The long term investors will be rewarded in the end. I will acquire more shares on the dip!
Same here! I kept adding to my shares as the price fell and I am glad I did so!!!! I believe we have a big winner and the recent price drop was the perfect opportunity to strengthen my position. Kudos to those who didn't worry about the lack of news and took advantage of the stock's weakness!!!
Just came across this news!!! Enjoy the 4th!!!!
CENTENNIAL, COLORADO -- (Marketwired) -- 07/02/15 -- NioCorp Developments Ltd. ("NioCorp" or the "Company") (TSX: NB)(OTCQX: NIOBF)(FRANKFURT: BR3) is pleased to announce that it has arranged a non-revolving credit facility agreement in the amount of USD $2 million dated July 1, 2015 between the Company and its Executive Chairman, Mark Smith. These funds will contribute to the continued work necessary to keep the Elk Creek Niobium Project on its original timeline for completion of the Company's Feasibility Study. Each draw on the credit facility made by the Company will be secured and evidenced by a promissory note in favor of Mr. Smith. The credit facility will bear an interest rate of 10%, is secured by the Company's assets pursuant to a general security agreement, and is subject to both a 2.5% establishment fee and 2.5% prepayment fee. The amounts outstanding under the credit facility will become due June 17, 2016.
"NioCorp's Board of Directors would like to reiterate our thanks to Mr. Smith for his continued support of the Company's mission, as we continue our push towards completion of our Feasibility Studyfor the Elk Creek Niobium Project," said Joseph A. Carrabba, Lead Director of NioCorp's Board. "This credit facility, in addition to Mark's previously announced loan, underlines his dedication to NioCorp's success."
The credit facility is subject to Toronto Stock Exchange approval, and is a "related party transaction" under Multilateral Instrument 61-101 Protection of Minority Security Holders in Special Transactions ("MI 61-101"). Because the value of the credit facility is less than 25% of NioCorp's market capitalization, it is exempt from the formal valuation and minority shareholder approval requirements of MI 61-101. The material change report in relation to the credit facility will be filed less than 21 days before the expected closing date as the Company wishes to complete the credit facility as soon as commercially practical after all required approvals are obtained.
Well I have seen HYSR news releases on Yahoo News over the last six months so I am hoping this update will hit Yahoo too!
I am not sure if anyone else saw this but I thought I would share it. I came across it on my TD Ameritrade account. Nice to see someone recommending Niocorp!
Today's News, June 08, 2015
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Niocorp Started at Buy by Mackie >NB.T
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Those are good points Stark. Bringing in those companies will certainly help with the financing. I was remembering Mark say on a recent video interview that he wanted the PEA so he could talk hard numbers with investors because many companies couldn't look at the opportunity without it or the BFS.
I agree with you. If you plan to sell then why take the expense of moving headquarters to the U.S.? You could let the new owners do that!
I thought the PEA was done to allow Mark and the team the ability to talk actual numbers about Elk Creek deposits. Without it they would have to wait until the BFS which wouldn't be ready until the end of the year. If this is correct then Mark may have wanted to set up meetings with institutional investors that were interested now versus later. By doing the PEA he could have meetings and secure whatever financing the mine would need so construction could start in 2016. If he waited until the BFS then the construction may have been delayed until 2017 instead of next year. Also, we may not hear anything major because Mark is working on what's really important which is having conversations with deep pockets and running the business. We will not know the answer until important announcements are made. Those are all my opinions... not sure if they are correct but the no news is not bothering me in the least.... for now.
Mark is wearing both hats and will assume the President's role.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
The official PEA was just released on May 19th so it may take a while for bigger firms to read, digest, and make a decision. Especially, if the investment company is going to buy significant shares. I assume they may have to present why NIOB is a good buy to someone in management that will green light the purchase. I have no idea if this is correct but most big companies have levels of bureaucracy you have to go through when a significant purchase is being made...
I agree with you bernice... Low shares = more shares... for meeeeeeee! lol
I agree with you to an extent... HYSR has made some progress on their process that they have filed patents for. I feel the most important part regarding achieving 1.5 volts is going a lot slower as they approach that milestone... It must be really hard to do which is the reason it hasn't been done yet. In the meantime, they are working on other parts of the puzzle. Well I hope they are....
In marketing it would be called creating brand awareness. It is powerful over the long term while the benefits are not always felt in the short term. Companies often try to remain "visible" by sponsoring certain events, superstars, or facilities in order to stay in front of the customer. They do this so it will be easier for the future customer to choose them "when" they decide to make a choice on which company they want to do business with when the time comes. If they don't do this then it is harder to make a sale.
These companies want to remain in the "cognitive set" when a decision has to be made. Think of the last time you needed to by anything, the first couple of options you thought of first are the companies that are in your cognitive set. These are the companies you will most likely go to first to satisfy your need.
HYSR gains more awareness among future investors when they put a piece out. This can help in the long term if the person is interested in buying the stock or buying the actual product in the future. The more they know about and read about HYSR the more likely they will do business them. People like doing business with people or companies they know. More communication by HYSR may serve to increase the awareness for people that know much about HYSR. Long term share holders know a lot about the company so we see some of these PR as fluff. To others new to HYSR, they may want to see all the efforts HYSR are taking to bring this transformational product to market.
I'm not sure that helps... but I tried during my morning break! lol
I'm with you on that. I've been doing the same thing and I truly believe there will be a big payday down the road! Enjoy!!!
Collecting profits is the simple answer IMO. NIOB had a huge run up. For some people the easy money has been made and they are selling their position. They may not want to wait for additional profits and want to realize the profits they have on paper right now. I certainly can understand that. Personally, as I stated earlier, I am waiting for a much bigger payout that I believe is coming within two years. I invested in NIOB and I can wait. Others feel differently and are allowing me to buy on the weakness. Which I did this morning!
I agree with you Landmark. NIOB is now poised to do some big things now that the PEA is out. It may not be great but it is certainly good enough to make everyone A LOT of money. If large investors are inquiring that means there interest there because they know they can make a lot of money too... And when institutional investors buy, they buy BIG! That means volume and awareness will pick up which will further increase volume... I am enjoying the price drops as it helps me accumulate more shares... I am not worried at all right now...
This board is hilarious tonight!!!! Don't worry everyone things will be alright! Long term NIOB is positioned for growth and those that stay long will be rewarded IMO. The worst case scenario is the mine doesn't get built which I don't see happening based on what the local politicians and citizens are saying about the project. That leaves us with the following outcomes... NIOB is bought out and we make money. The mine becomes operational and we make money. We just need to wait for these things to play out... One day downward moves will not scare me right now... I have a lot of shares of NIOB and I am patiently waiting for the payday that's coming in not-so-distant future!
Good day men!!!