well, also there are those links that i provided that show the total short position for a stock twice a month that indicate what actually remains outstanding, regardless of these daily shorts that may be "transactional" shorts that are only out there for a few seconds, or possible high daily short volume of actual shorts, but short borrowing that the broker only allows ONE DAY to cover, (and i have read that it is hard to find shares to borrow at all, and when you can find shares it is often SAME DAY and one day borrowing is a long time in the world of pennies) in addition to all that, the report that i linked to in a previous post shows that ony 21k or something like that shares were outstanding in short position at the end of july. i wish there were a ton of shares borrowed right now, but i do not believe it is so. the link i shared so clearly that is otherwise.

this purports to be the total outstanding short volume: http://www.otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest_popup.asp?Symbol=gdgi&StlmtDt=07/31/2013

wise - you might want to look at the link worknhard posted regarding what i will call "transactional" short selling, which is not the same as people borrowing to sell short as a short position, just a way to clear transactions when you are not holding enough of the stock

i understand what short selling is

the link you provided was interesting in that it explained how and why short selling figures appear higher than what we would conventionally think of as short selling; what we might call "transactional" short selling that is part of how MM in pennies do business results in short volume looking higher

but it remains the case that i dont see anything to indicate that the OTC short selling report linked to in previous posts includes a sum of boht short selling and buys to cover and nothing you have said so far indicates that buys to cover are actually included in that figure

i am confident that if and when i get a response from OTC short report website they will tell us that the figure is volume sold short, NOT volume sold short (sign positive) PLUS volume buys to cover (sign positive)

perhaps you and I think the same thing but you are just using the terms in some odd way that i am not understanding

also, marab, shaking my head

yes. correct. NO dilution for a year
not low dilution

as i have said many times before
this stock is not a typical penny stock
rather than dilute and pay himself an exhorbitant salary at shareholders expense
the CEO has sold 10% of his shares
and taken a second job

and they have an actual product
with some satisfied clients who have been using the product for years
as well as EPA and Harvey Mudd and Tulane endorsements

thanks for your patience in working through this with me

i hope to have clarification from the site itself
i willr ead your latest link later
i am heading for the whitewater

well that much we can agree on!
low dilution at GDGI is a very good thing

pretty sure you are mistaken

these links might help clarify
http://otcshortreport.com/index.php?index=GDGI#close

this is the chart you point to if i recall
it is entitled "short selling data report"

it is not entitled "short selling and buy to cover data report"
so i think, and i am not sure yet, but i pretty strongly believe, this report is "short selling data report" and reports volume of short sales, rather than this report with that title is actually a "short selling AND BUYS TO COVER data report" and reports volume of short sales PLUS volume of buys to cover

if you look at these stocks, you will see http://otcshortreport.com/blog/daily-otc-short-report/daily-naked-short-numbers-for-august-8-2013/

they say how many shares are sold short and that matches the otcshortreport volume exactly. maybe there were no buys to cover for any of these stocks. that would be quite a coincidence. i think the much more likely explanation is that the figure is NOT volume of shares sold short PLUS volume of buys to cover, but rather volume of shares sold short. period.

perhaps this is just a commmunication problem and you agree. when i say BUY TO COVER i mean that a short seller has first borrowed shares and sold them short and then subsequently BUYS TO COVER, which means he buys shares and returns them to the broker from whom he initially borrowed the shares he sold short. were you thinking it meant something different? perhaps taht was our problem.


based on other reports, it looks to me like maybe nobody is lending these shares to sell short with more htan 1 day to cover:

http://www.otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest_popup.asp?Symbol=gdgi&StlmtDt=07/31/2013

these are bimonhtly reportrs of TOTAL outstanding short position i believe .. http://www.otcbb.com/asp/otce_short_interest.asp

"The end-of-month short interest report is based on short positions held on the last business day of the month on which transactions settle. The reports must be filed by the second business day after the reporting settlement date. The short interest data is compiled and provided for publication on the 8th business day after the reporting settlement date."

this figure of 20,971 is confirmed by this other source:
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/gdgi/short-sales

so seemingly total shares sold short that need to a buy to cover someday were, on july 31, quite low. 21k or so.

hmm.

and then this that you point to has daily figures and has 250,000 on july 31st

http://otcshortreport.com/index.php?index=GDGI#.UgfbqDsp9Mg

could be that as the other chart indicates, buy to cover must happen in one day, so people are shorting high volumes regularly but are also required by the brokerage that lent them the shares to cover the same day or the next day.


i contaced OTC short report for clarificaiton, so i hope on monday i can tell you from the horses mouth

OTC short report claims to show volume sold short on that day

and absolutely does not claim to add volume bought to cover on that day is added to that figure

well, you were clear on how you figured out that they showed short selling

i am quite familiar with short selling and how it works and what it means to sell short and to buy to cover

you did provide a very clear example of how you know they reflect short sales, but i already am quite sure they do reflect short sales but you did not provide an example of how you figured out they included buys to cover short positions

can you think of an example where you can see clearly that they include buy to cover short positions? i am pretty sure the figures do not include the volume of buys to cover, but rather only the borrowed shares sold short. again, the latter would be useful, the former of every limited value.

right, well i totally believe
that the figure is short selling

what i have trouble believing is that the figure also includes buys to cover short positions

i suppose if you see 200k on there and you sold 200k and that was the only transaction that day, then you could tell that it is reporting buys to cover

you know your own sale was not a short sale, and the only other transaction is the counterparty buying your shares, which then if you see the figure for the day is 200k, must be a buy to cover

but i dont hear you saying that

i am pretty sure the more we talk about it
that the figure is volume of short sales
not volume of short sales plus volume of buys to cover

wouldnt the figure i am thinking of be much more useful?
we dont know whether those were covered, but we do know they were sold short

the other way, you cant tell whether the volume is buy to cover or sell short or a combination. if it is the way i think it is, you know this many were sold short, although you dont know when or if they are bought to cover again

i do not agree that this is great news

that's nice and all but so what?

i do not agree that Harvey Mudd getting ranked as a school where you get a very good deal for your money, and also getting a good ranking overall, from Forbes is great news for GDGI

my alma mater's sister scool Harvey Mudd has consistently ranked in the top 3 or 4 tech schools in the country along with Cal Tech, MIT, and Rensalyer for approximately ever - since colleges have been ranked. this is not news.

it is good that we got an award a long time ago from a school that is always held in very high regard for engineering. it is good that we have a epa award too, and that no one else does. a new ranking confirming its position among top schools however is no big deal whatsoever.

and again, i think it will discourage other investors if they see we are excited over something that has almost no significance for our stock.

happy to say my alma mater was ranked #2 college or university in the country by forbes in this - i believe their first - year of ranking schools, whereas in US news we place in the top 5, but among small colleges. forbes has us outranking harvard, yale, princeton, brown, penn, swarthmore, weslyan, everybody but stanford. really it comes down to cases though. hard to rank objectively.

what makes you so sure the chart figure is shares sold short plus shares bought to cover?

it seems to me the figure would be much more helpful if it was shares sold short minus shares bought to cover
but is is clearly not that, because the sign is always positive

so i am inclined to think the figure is just shares sold short and does not relfect bought to cover

did you read that definition of the figure on otcmarkets somewhere?

or are you thinking that based on your understanding of what the simple phrase "short volume" must mean?

yes, but that seems odd then

if someone shorted 130 million shares
and covered the same day, this statistic as you have described it would say the short volume was 260 million

and if someone shorted 100k and covered every day with a 100k purchase, it would show 200k all the time

ok. maybe so. seems not very useful but maybe so. in that case though, if you see 200k on the short volume, it may not indicate the short position that must eventually be covered is growing.

it may indicate that someone bought 200k to cover and the oustanding number of loaned shares sold short that must be covered is smaller now.

but it seems you are drawing conclusions from this number as if you could discern the net movement in total shares sold short. i dont see how if it is as you have said.

one day 1 million are sold short
the next 4 days each day one million are bought to cover
the net short position has changed to be 3 million less shares than anyone needs to buy to cover their short positions

or the opposite happens, the first day is covering followed by 4 days where 1 million are borrowed and sold short with no covering and the net position changes by 3 million more sales borrowed and sold short that someone must eventually buy

either way, if it is as you say, the statistic shows 1 million each day and we dont really know much about what happened

are you sure that is how that works?

the website does not seem to explain
beyond labeling it short volume
at least not on that page

but it seems to me it would be much more useful it was either only short sales, which i think it is, or it was short sales net of short covering, which would be much more helpful, but i think it is not that because it is never negative

i think i dont get something about this

do these numbers sometimes have a negative sign right?

cause if 100k reported means 100k sold short

it would say the same thing if 100k were bought to cover cover,
right?

and you would not add 100k sold short and 100k covered and report 200k?

it would 100k covered and 100k shold short nets out to zero to be meaningfu right?

so sometimes you see -100k sold short, meaning there was only covering that day?

i never notice a negative sign, which is why i thought it was short selling only, not a figure that netted out covering, much less one that summed the two as positive numbers

or are you saying it IS short sales (positive sign) plus short covering (also described as a positive number) added so that 100k sold short plus 100k covered is 200k not 0k?

so on this chart
http://otcshortreport.com/index.php?index=gdgi&action=view#.Ugb5Qjsp9Mg
the amount that we see is the net short position -
this number is not short selling
but rather short selling net of short covering for the day?
or the net short position over time?
thanks for explaining
i thought it was just short sales for the day

you have excellent managerial skills

maybe a company would be willing
to tell a student, or a journalist covering energy conservation

but i cant think why a student would need to know sales figures -
or a journalist either. or blogger. whatever. and i think the company will be tight lipped about it not matter how you represent your interest.

is amazon still selling it?

if the thought is "sales are maybe increasing because we noticed a distribution channel that is not out of stock" - well, they will greater than they were when they were out of stock, thats for sure but maybe still pretty small. we should all know the 10k does not include a lot of revenue that could be from res sales with the claimmed commerical sales and they sort of said they were changint focus to commericial(? is that right?).

so i think that will not pan out to conclude that they are getting people stocked means a lot.. although now that i think about it, they had money to manufacture the stock and didnt before (?) hmm. maybe more likely stock shufflign between peopel that are holding it, or i guess incoming residentail revenue in a trickle funds manufacutring(?). ..

if the thought is "sales are increaing because MR TX company is advertising and heating up that market space and ours is cheaper (?)" well that might be true, in which case, how can we try to find out if sales nationwide are increasing?

one dealer might tell us his trend and give us a proxy, but there are so many other factors there not a very representative sample, even if someone could convince someone to tell us, no trend could correspond to national upswting or vs versa

i think maybe there is somme correlation between number of product revivews on amazon and number of sales

that might be a good proxy for national sales
how many reviews per month

perhaps if you want to ask a dealer you could tell them you are researching the product for a stock message board and have an editorial perspective that the product is excellent and want to get some interest in it, that can yield additionanl residential sales, and say you will link to their site and would like to know if they are seeing an uptrend in sales or have other comments about the company or the product

now i am not at all confident that would work
but its the best i can think of

surprisingly often honesty is the best policy

where do you think gogreensolar's area ends?

perhaps you are going to suggest that you are orbiting a different star than the sun? they are on the internet, aka the "world wide" web. their homepage does not have the name of any country, state, county, or city, and their phone number is toll free nationwide.

or do you just read part of posts?

and if florida eco products thinks somewhere in the united states there is a market that they don't want to sell in, i will subsist entirely on hats.

stop scaring me guys ps. earlier posts edited for clarification..

in case you did not understand why this is an utterly ridiculous approach, which apparently someone did not

seriously? you think a web vendor is going to give information to a potential competitor just because they have a state in their name? so 1) they are not interested in selling in other states and are not already successfully doing so through google search etc and 2) they are going to trust that you are not in florida because you said so.

you put your state in your web name to get better search position for searches originating in that state, not because you would not be just as happy to sell to everyone who hits your sites from any state. again, having florida in your name does not mean you dont recognize money from arizona is also green, and exchangeable for the same dollars they use in florida, for crying out loud.

sometimes i am terrified by the company i am in as an investor in this stock. seriously. but i take a deep breath and look at the fundamentals and say, its ok, its ok to invest in a stock where your fellow stock holders thing that a company that sells on the web is going to tell someone who says they are planning to the sell the same product their sales volume


oh my secular stars

what do you think their area is?
do you know that the internet is also called the
"world wide" web?

being named "FLORIDA eco products" does not mean this company would not like to sell to all the people that find their product through search across the US. it means they hope to get a bigger piece of the florida market, not that they are not interested in selling on the west coast, and not that they would not view a west coast seller of CNS as a direct competitor.


and yes, i do only read pieces of posts sometimes. i mean, i see the other words, but my brain jams up sometimes when i read something that boggles my mind.

whaa???

you are saying it is brilliant for someone to approach someone selling a product on the web and say "i am planning to compete with you. feel like giving some confidential business information to strengthen my ability to help me decide the best approach to getting market share away from you?"

it is a website right? there is not some geographic market that is not the websites market. they dont want someone else to sell a single CNS unit because that is a sale they wont get. baffled.

puzzling approach

because they want to help their competition?

absolutley no way you can short any penny on etrade or any ohter big platform. you really have to scour

if i were a more pressed for money, i woudl figure it out, cause calling Bs on pennies is like shooting fish in a barrel. what goes up will certainly come down. except GDGI. its a real product with a CEO who sells a tiny fraction of his own shares and gets a job instead of diluting and paying himself a big salary for spouting hype. very different from most penneis.

but the reporting is often wrong. i buy or sell on etrade and it shows up on the L2 as CSTI. vice versa too i would imagine

reporting on this stuff is all up in the air. they pass the transactions to another to execute and it is reported as the executing entity, not the originating entity, pretty clearly from looking at it.

yeah - you are getting the shorted shares
if they are indeed shorted
istu says otc is not reliable
i dont know
would not suprise me
ceteris paribus, better for us if they are actually short sales though

pretty sure it is zero because they dont report any pennies on the nasdaq site because pennies are not on the has

my guess is otc short is not deliberatelty innaccurate but rather just hard to get the right info

with ETRADE accoutn holdres (like me) showing up as CSTI and stuff for pennies, it is clear to me it gets complicated reporting this stuff adn the market is too small to warrant a robust method

well that is not necessarily inaccurate
there are two parties to the transaction
the seller and the buyer
the buyer cannot be the short
there is no such thing as short buying
although there is a buy to cover a short position
but as far as i know this is not reported - we dont know when shorts buy to cover, only when they sell short
or can someone show me where to see buy to cover figures?

so it is quite possible that whoever sold to you, it was a real short sale of borrowed shares, which is a good thing for longs cause it means sooner or later they will have to cover

a regular retail sale does not indicate that an offseting buy will have to happen down the road, a short sale does

if i am understanding all that is being said here
and unless i am much mistaken on the nature of short selling

as i said, i believed you already
(and congrats on your bargain. could dip a little lower, but that is far from certain i think)

but i think for skeptics you will need something more than copied text. pretty easy just to type that instead of actually copying it

even a screen shot you could fake up
but it would be a bit of work

if you dont have a screen grab built in (like the snipping tool in windows 8) you can hit the print screen button and paste it into any image processor and save

nah. it was ever thus

the only difference is now most people know they have competition

also, people know that their network of authorized suppliers has at least one member. i did not think that was big news.

but the good things about this company are the same as they ever were, (patents, trademarks, sales, proven installs running for a long time, that city fire department way to the norht of the main AC belt where it is only seasonal and they are still hapy, epa endorsement that one one else seems to have, and the only public traded commpany focused on ac pre cooling) and the presence of lots of people who, quite possibly sincerely, express their relentless optimism that there is one particular reason or another to believe success is right around the corner has been consistent for quite a while

someone was upset that somebody who might well eventually buy back in and is all out now and would like the price to go down said a true and verifiable thing that you could say is discouraging - the CEO sold a little less than 10% of his holdings. of course, you can find a silver lining there - he did that instead of diluting, and he took a second job to shore up his income while he holds 90% of his original holdings and hopes to lead the company to success. pretty good silver lining! the upset person seemed to say telling bad news was tanamount to theft.

it cracks me up that people who are thrilled to see ask slaps at the close painting the chart are on a moral high horse about people saying or doing things in hope of depressing the price rather than raising it

if you talk someone else, or worse yet yourself, into a buy or hold investment decision based on a unreasonably rosy view of the possibilities for this stock and very poorly supported conclusions about what our limited information means, for instance, other people are selling similar products so that is good because we can sue them, (as opposed to they are selling similar products so that is good because it shows there is a market that may grow that we can get a share of) i dont think that is morally superior to talking people into selling by simply telling them verifiable facts without speculating as to what they imply

and phillyslade, i hope you wont be upset when i say
"you are big meanie"

respones following form ishtu and to worknhard
and marab also below
cause i am out of posts for today
so please dont say anything that i will
feel obliged to disagree with for at least 6 hours
hahaha

ishtu -
he does care. he just cant eat hope.
so he has to take a second job
he kept 90% of his stock
my opinion - there can be no doubt doing what he can and hoping
his dealers working on commission (to keep expenses at zero)
make some progress or someone notices
the company and buys in for a big piece
or one of the competitors buys in or takes it over to be
public quick and easy

most other penny stock ceos steal canddy fromm children as their main line of work between defrauding investors


ok lets not get all freaked out about what some of us may be hearing for the first time. worknhard still likes this stock ok and so do i and worknhard just has no reason not to share the slightly negative stuff he knows cause he is out right now and maybe will get back in. he is not being a mean bastard, he is just being candid in a way that potentially serves his interest.

ben sold some of his shares but he kept a lot too; he still has over 55 million shares, way more than any of us, and has sold less than 10% even though we can reasonably guess his personal finances are super tight and he took a second job rather than sell more.

we know he had to take a second job. even so, even if he were sure the stock was going up right away, he might have needed 20k to feed his family, cause maybe he was sure last month the finances were super tight. and he still has way more stock than anyone on this board. so give him some credit. this company is not trying to scam anyone and the insiders are not all wildy selling cause they know it is going to tank, he sold a little bit to cover expenses. nothing to freak out about. dont sell near the floor just becasue of this.

also re him filing for permission to sell, he had to wait til AFTER the press release to sell fyi cause insiders cant sell when they have non public information that is about to go public, you have to wait til after the PR.

to respond to marab's post -

ok good

to the extent that there are people who are not aware that GDGI has any resellers working on selling their product, i guess that is reason to be excited. i already knew that and i think a lot of other people have read the website and or the 10k and also knew that they said they implied they had a number of resellers

i would be pretty disappointed if this is the only authorized dealer, but it would help explain the slow progress

also i am not sure this falls into that category rather than the distributor system; the latter sells the residential systems, the former sells the residential systems

if the thing you pointed just sells sytems with the flapper valve, that is not the commerical system i am pretty sure

they did a press release that included their authorized dealer program more than a year ago and their website says all installs are done by authorized dealers

i have been assuming they had a decent number of HVAC companies that were trying to sell their product

their 10k report also suggest this

maybe you would like to find and list them all
i am sure if you can find a lot, rather than one, that will indeed be somewhat encouraging

from t

from the 10 k

Authorized Dealers (Commercial System). An authorized dealer program has been established to
offer a turnkey start up option for resellers / installers that includes factory training, marketing
support, lead generation and other support services that are designed specifically to increase
productivity while decreasing start up time. Not only will this activity increase sales through more
sales activity, it also will generate upfront revenue from the initial buy-in (for minimum inventory) for
the program.


Distributor Sales Channel (Residential System). There are a number of new and existing residential
system distributors that have expressed interest in re-selling the Commercial system. They include
existing HVAC companies, Building maintenance companies, and emerging Green technology
companies.

that is good that they have a plan to sell their trademarked version of the Dober product for other applications

i worked for US EPA helping municipalties write water conservation codes that BAN patio misters aka swamp coolers in the 80s. our thinking was that they are grotesque waste of water in the arid water scarce climates where they are typically deployed (air conditioning all of oudoors? give me a break! but they sure do add to comfort if you have ever been in one!) and many jurisdictions where water conservation is an issue have banned them, but there are still lots around, so probably a big market, but the market for wasting environmental resources is probably a small fraction of the market for saving energy, so i think their share of the ac pre cooling market is still the big thing

also, convincing the FDA through testing that it is explicitly say it is ok to spray a chemical in atomized form in mist all over the place where people are breathing is probably going to be a lot more expensive than say filing a 10k, so it will be a while before they get that done

and when they do, FDA is not going to give the permission to the trademark, they are going to give permission to the chemical

so they will poised to market something under trademark, but they will be no means have exclusive use of it

except that they would be crazy to spend all the money for FDA approval without an exclusive use contract from Dober - so i would hope that before they spend that money, they will lock it down with Dober

also Dober already says the chemical is ideal for other applications including swamp coolers, so it looks like they are selling it to people to put on their swap coolers even though it is not FDA approved. not sure what to think about that, but it suggests that maybe nobody will invest in the FDA approval ever

if you are excited that they market microguard i was aware of that and i dont think it is a big deal. it is someone elses product that can help the wary be extra sure of no scale. they can make a few extra dollars adding a spray can of that on to the commerical package. they are not the exclusive marketer of microguard or anythign like that.

maybe you will consider sending your DD to someone else
to see if they think it is good news

i am not so sure telling everyone about all the competition is helping, although at least now there will be fewer surprises down the road and it can only set us back so far when we are sitting near the floor to start with

i dont feel like saying they dont have a patent lawsuit here is that big a deal because you will find that out by company silence on the issue when you get tired of waiting for that news anyway

so there is one less disappointment down the road and i am here to say forget all that stuff we dont have; look at what we do have: the only way to invest in AC pre cooling

yes pretty sure this is true

this is the reason i have stayed in even though i knew about these companies for a long time and have not said anything because i knew it would panic some other people

i was not stoked when somebody found them and started posting and got all excited that GDGI can sue them for patent infringement but the cat is out of the bag now

GDGI is still the only publicly traded company in the ac pre cooling market and the only way the small investor can get a piece of this multi billion dollar market

i think they were at soriana before 2012
pretty sure of that

sure. it is great that other companies are selling GDGI stuff
and to the extent that they close sales, in all likelihood they will be paying GDGI the wholesale price, not merely a licensing fee to manufacture it themselves but rather buying it from GDGI.

i am just saying it is just not big news
because they established a network of authorized dealers
a couple years ago and told us about it and say so on their website still if i am not mistaken
so because we already knew many distributors are selling or trying to sell the commercial and the residential product
it is not more exciting than summer is still hot

it is not just use of the patent
they are obviously buying the units from GDGI and reselling them
isnt that the residential unit?
not really something to get excited about

i hope you win big with your other pennies

slim chance of that
maybe light volume down that low
if people really need to get out
but who else is gonna sell that low
short sellers with borrowed shares and poor judgement i suppose maybe
i would think 2s are the absolute floor

could go that low briefly
but not because of the recent discoveries i think

i hope i have made the case that having competition does not say their long term prospects are bleak

there is a huge market out there waiting to explode once this technology passes a tipping point

you could be right
i dont think a big move is likely before the sentencing
but i also think they could surprise us at any time

it would be a shame to miss out huh?
ceteris paribus
a 1 in 10 chance of a 10 to 1 increase before the sentencing has an expected value of doubling your money before the sentencing

possibly shorting
possibly just one of our longs has heard soon too many times and got impatient

we heard from one long yesterday who said it was precisely too many times too much clamor for soon that drove him to despair a while ago, so i think that suggest that my notion that all the empahsis on rosy near term predictions is to some degree counter to the interests of longs. swing traders must love it

and that being said MAYBE something is happening soon. it is certainly not out of the question, but just dont get in a tizzy counting on it

or it could be russ the buss who is not impatient per se, but who said he needed money for something else or someone else in a similar position who hated to sell this low but just had to
i am surprised there is not more price support from current longs
but i guess everyone else just like me is already very low or plumb out of dry powder

i strongly advise if you are considering selling, don't
you are getting so little for your shares
this company is definitely worth more than 750k total

just the shell of a public company is worth 500k
and i think anyone can see this is a lot more than a shell

i was trying to think of a good example of a product with no patent that has a trademark

hilton hotels is not a good example - they have a particular location and style and reputation to protect - they are not selling a product that is identical to what someone else sells

but private labeling of food is a good example

you can find food processors that will make you the same soup or vodka that they make someone else and you just put your trademark on it and sell it

the reason you dont just call it generic pea soup from Tzehnen Prefecture factory #7 but rather Soup of Knowledge (TM) is that you want your efforts to promote the product to result in profits for you and you alone. you dont want to spend money promoting Tzehen Perfecture facotry #7 soup just so your competitors can make money off your advertising efforts

that is why you create a trademark for something for which you do not own a patent

it will be great if they do have all those patents in their own name and fully granted and they can sue their competitors

if not, dont be dismayed

it will still be great
you just might have to wait a little while longer to see the greatness and not necessarily too much longer

i think it is likely we will see the Levy debt go away in a couple months and that, if they can afford to PR it, should give us a little boost, but dont sell on a double or triple from that

hold for the big sale! and then hold some more for the endless stream of sales as they gain 10 or 20 or 30 or 50% market share of a multi billion dollar market

all yall are penny players maybe. not me. this is not a typical penny. dont play it like one

this is not just my humble opinion
this is my stern command

it is late at night. you are getting very sleepy
(well, i am anyway)
you are falling asleep, feeling secure in your investment
untroubled by short term ripples in the price
when you awake you will
OBEY ME and hold patiently

i am gnosis
i have spoken

this kind of stuff can be tricky

notice he says they introduced it
and he says they have a TM for it that is different than the TM that Dober uses

he does not say they own the patent

and Dober is for sure selling a chemical that is either identical or similar in purpose and efficacy for other applications under a different registered trade mark (Smart Release) and the Smart Release site specifically says there are many ac precooling technologies that use water, so that kind of suggests GDGI does not have exclusive use

each wants to make sure their marketing efforts behind the chosen name goes for their efforts to sell the product, not the other guys

i am no patent or trademark expert, just a layperson, but i did get a b on a spelling test in third grade, so you may want to give my opinion on matters of communication great weight