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Doesn't look good, but I'm not going to post to bash. Just shrug my shoulders and get on with life.
Posting anything now is useless until or when we have a bit of good news. Its all going to be just speculation. I've done pump posts enough. Now I just have to wait and hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
It wasn't for the subject blog...it was for two new questions and the answers to them below the initial informational blog....
New questions/answers on the WWW.LiquidMetal.com blog...under the "spring" heading..I just got two e-mails notifying me...
Join a gym, if you haven't. So much better in dealing with stress.
If you don't think consumers will pay a higher price for a Liquid Metal Iphone....
you may be interested in this...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/gold-iphones-ebay_n_3980947.html#comments
Yes, there have been enough "false alarms" on the APPLE LQMT for Samsung to think.."Gee, we better try and head this off at the pass"....and the rest of the story, is APPLE knows each phone comes with rumors of Liquid Metal...its almost like a "done deal" in the minds of consumers and they are just waiting....it leaves APPLE in only one position...TO GET THE DANG LQMT PHONE ON THE SHELF...
Just heard...APPLE sold 9 MILLION of the new phones...far surpassing anyones estimate.
Can you imagine the stampede for a Liquid Metal phone?? Yes..me too..and APPLE knows it too.
An extra $200 a phone?? NO ONE WILL CARE....the name "Liquid Metal" will be a narcotic to consumers.... "if it ain't Liquid Metal, I ain't buying it."...will be the mantra. KEEP HOPE ALIVE.
A little pumping this morning...for my benefit too. And its not guaranteeing anything. But we all can list many stocks that on their way up to many many multiples of their starting price, went through times where all the experts on CNBC< and Motley, and Seeking Alpha, on and on, plus the bashers on message boards, were all advising to sell. Even what seems the most obvious success...hindsight is great....Wall Street could not see. And if you watch a stock every day, and discusss it ad nauseaum, you will throw in the towel, because finally the doubts will become too great. Yes, LQMT has many many negatives. Because we can't see behind the curtain. Maybe nothing IS behind the curtain.
And that is why they say...there is risk in any investment. To survive the deep dark days of doubt..you just have to tell yourself...you're going to hold because you believe in the technology and you like whose involved...we have APPLE, MATERION, ENGEL, and LQMT...but you need to choose your tactic...and stick with it...mine now..is to wait unto NEXT YEAR next september....believe me...psychologically IT WORKS......then you can read all the "poop" on message boards and know you have your OWN plan, and not someone elses...
GOOD LUCK LONGS....
Yes. Well, I guess my next milestone wait is next September....then 100% of my shares will be long term. I know its a horrible thought to some. Waiting another year. But if I had waited two years on a few other stocks I was in for a short time, I wouldn't be here posting. For some it takes a long time to learn the lesson..and for others...they never learn. But as I said, my mistakes in life have brought me
non-financial wealth beyond anything I could have imagined. If LQMT doesn't become a winner, it really doesn't matter. All my definitions of wealth have changed as I traveled my roads in life. And that bank account is full. (I really need to get going on the book. I smell an internet sensation.).
New IPHONES more fragile than past models....Samsung also failed tests...
Looks like its time for LIQUID METAL...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22/iphone-5s-5c-fragile_n_3972322.html?utm_hp_ref=technology#comments
Apple is up 22 points...from the reaction of the two iphones...again, Wall Street was caught off guard....now just imagine what will happen when they announce a Liquid Metal case...
It was nice to read anyway.
Its NEVER too early to start pumping....leave us with stars in our eyes, and hope in our hearts, alone.
GREAT FIND...you get the gold star for today..thanks....and I don't care if its true..I"LL TAKE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW...
No, but a surprise to many, there was a mad rush to buy the two phones just released...and the GOLD phone sold out in the first half hour..now BOTH phones are SOLD OUT....the "gold sell out" tells us
just what design means to buyers...even if they put a case around it..so we can all imagine what will happen when APPLE comes out with an LQMT phone...it will be a world wide phenom....even with a high price.
I know. But if great news comes out...and the stock spikes....and they have 300 million shares ready to issue...yes, it will be dilution but based on a metal that could change the world of metalurgy, and be used everywhere...they will have plenty of funds to get their own machines...but Materion I'm sure
will be building machines to use the metal...if they aren't doing it already....the hardware issue will be solved very quickly...."if" things work out.
I agree. One more year, it can't go much longer than that. I guess investors in Biotech face the same thing. A serum going through testing. And they all know, that one day they can wake up and read that all their waiting was for nothing. OR, they hit the jackpot.
I know.."chess sets". Of all the crap to put on their web site. Gaad. My fantasy mind says.."Oh, that's just a ruse...they are really polishing up LQMT IPAD bodies and testing making car panels. And then I think of the video that was put up and taken down quickly, of LQMT employees having paper airplane contests. Were those employees trying to tell us all something?? Is that why they snuck it into the internet?? Were their guilt ridden minds screaming at us with the truth??? Paranoia can run rampant, also because many of us have been in "scams" before. And then of course...the 200 Million extra shares that don't seem to have a purpose...except to get enough approved so they won't have to deal with dirty little investors about it anymore. My "wishful thinking" mind tells me.."Oh, this is going to be wonderful..just wait". My connecting the dots part of my mind is trying to tell me.."Good gaad, wake the heck up, the fat lady has been singing on stage for quite some time...you just don't want to face the music." This is where we all are. I try not to think about it. Not smart, but like you all, I don't want to give up the dream. But this is not a company being run by Elon Musk....but it is working with APPLE and Materion...and they both desperately want it to work.
I have posted VERY negative projections on what may come, to counterbalance my hyping posts.
I'm well aware of what may happen. Makes me feel a little sick. Because I've been there before.
We have all hit a brick wall. These are the times that try mens souls. Yes, MIT, Nasa, JPL, Caltech.
But that's all just research. Nothing on a grand scale. And we don't even know the metal combination they are using. LQMT has gone from Caltech, to $100+ million in development funds. As someone else posted, LQMT could be years ahead of anything MIT, etc, are doing. The same type of anxiety will happen "if/when" LQMT and its partners DO get a contract...oh, this board will be filled with projections, expert investors hollering for everyone to SELL and wait for a pull back. This will never be smooth sailing. I was in one of the greatest winners in a long time, just last year...and sold before it took off. That's sickening too. Makes me dizzy to think about it. IF the Sheet Patent is far beyond what most think...in development, LQMT could make up for all the past mistakes. I have gotten to the point where I don't care what it does. Its a mind set I needed to get into so I don't make another horrible mistake. Like saying.."Oh crap, I've had enough of this...I'm getting out." Then forgetting about it...only to see it at $3 a share next year. That is a regret I don't want. NOT again
JPL and MIT...nice article...just shows a little more on how this area is growing. But I doubt JPL and MIT are pouring in the MILLIONS that APPLE is, to bring Liquid Metal to the market place. The discussions on this board have stopped in regards to the possible uses, because the new patents expanded the uses to "infinity". Not a bad leap in the last couple of months. I have no choice but to hold. The potential is too great. And I don't want to start looking for "gold" when the DOW is hitting 15,000.
This is it. LQMT at rock bottom. A metal that could expand globally connected to a company selling at 15 cents a share. This could become one of the greatest Cinderella Stories of all time.
You really had to stretch to come to that conclusion.
Any scenario is possible. Steipp deliberately NOT going after contracts may also be a scenario. Add to that idea, his deliberately sidestepping the question about the "SHEET PATENT"..during the last CC.
He answered it in such a way as to give that patent no significance at all. And then we have those stupid "chess pieces", as if to show anyone looking at the site.."well, this is about all we're doing..we can't think of anything else". And the "spring" prototypes. The Blog showing the HUGE advantage to the contractor, with the wear test results. And now, NOTHING..... So, did STEIPP deliberately DEEP SIX that avenue??? They can do it so many ways....stalling...making mistakes...anything....because just that one contract...well any contract, could send LQMT over $1. Were the 200 Million Shares also to keep the PPS down??? Was that a poison pill to the SHARE PRICE?? instead of keeping someone from buying the company??? And now, we see...the next CC perhaps no one allowed to come??? They seem to be totally cutting the share holders out of everything...does that mean something big coming..good and big?? My alter ego says..RUN....THEY ARE TAKING THIS DOWN Deliberately..but yet the PPS isn't plunging..INSIDERS are buying...One can go nuts trying to figure it out...I have a philosophy in the ready for any scenario. Wealth does not guarantee happiness, and I'm content with what I have now.
So I'm sitting in a good place no matter what. But I would love the thrill of seeing a big big number in my brokerage account wealth.
At this point in time, you can be just as right as anyone else...that's where we are. The dynamics of message boards are the same no matter what stock. Its the same play over and over. Even with stocks that are skyrocketing....you can go to them and read the posts of shorts or those wired to only think negatively....its truly amazing. And "if" something good happens to LQMT and the stock starts to rise...there will be those selling it short, or denouncing any positive news, same way with the ones that see the glass half full...they will be the last ones to throw in the towel and declare "game over".
We are all "whizing" into the wind...no one has any foundation for any kind of "reality" speculation.
Its an open field. All we have are "Longs" that want it to succeed. And Traders that want it to drop so they can do the "rinse and repeat" routine. They keep waiting for the big plunge, but they don't realize the game has changed. New Patents have emerged that have re defined the company. But yes, it could plunge depending on news. So, my "guess" if in the dollar range is just as good as any.
So whiz away...just don't do it into the wind...
Thanks. As I look at LQMT, for me, the IPO really happened when APPLE came in and they decided to go down a different road in manipulating the technology. That is when the company really started. Before that it was just a patented ingot metal sitting on a shelf..going nowhere. APPLE has invested tens of millions in developing the metal. We've seen the recent patents that enable HUGE SHEETS to be made. Instead of talking about tiny little ejector hooks, or tiny little medical implements, now look what's on the table. NO ONE knows how far they have gotten with those patents. I've only been in the stock a little over a year. Not too long after the REAL LQMT company was formed. With APPLE, VISSER and MATERION. That is nothing compared to how long many "LONGS" have to hold for a company to develop. Yes, there are "uh ohs"..like all the stock they have and have ready to issue. But what is the
balance to that?? the potential value..."in the Billions". All it takes is one announcement to boost the stock into the dollar range. Because considering the product, a big contract...will be a HUGE contract and a LONG contract. So I have to keep all that in mind, to push out the fog factor. Nothing is a sure thing, but we have plenty to keep us looking forward. It may happen, it may not happen. As with any stock.
I just read "Dr". Pekers blog for the first time. It seems Dr. Peker was with Liquid Metal during the Kang years. The same years Liquid Metal went down the wrong road in the technology to manipulate the metal. It seems Dr. Peker left or was asked to leave when Apple came on board, am I right??
Perhaps because APPLE knew the management and the Dr. were all wrong. Now it seems Dr. Peker not only has a vendetta towards APPLE, writing of the different generations of the IPHONE without mentioning Liquid Metal, but also Liquid Metal. I doubt anyone is reading this "blog" except a few that like to mention it here. He's "guessing" on APPLES troubles with the metal, but with no specifics. He's posting nothing more than what anyone here could "guess", and making projections of development based on his guesses. He leaves out a lot in his 'bio", such as why isn't he with LQMT anymore.
I have some pretty good guesses on that.
I hope not too. I have the extra burden of experience on a similar situation where the stockholders were pushed over a cliff. But perhaps my bits of similarities are not valid in this case. We do have a few reputable players. Its not just "LQMT" and a nefarious overtaker. They all have to be part of this. Visser, LQMT, Materion, and APPLE. They all have a big part in this. They all have put in much funds and work. That is part of the "half full" aspect. We have discussed the great successes of holding for the long term. No matter what stock that paid off big, those investors that held had to go through similar doubts, and frustrations, and worries about where management was taking the company. And they only had proof of success when it became obvious to the markets.
Our only choice is to wait and see if this can develop..just as others that are now very wealthy because of their stock choice..had to do.
I know everyone is down...and we have a right to be. But its still "anything can happen". Those extra shares, was it really just to enrich themselves??? If nothing happens...those shares and ours will shrink to nothing. And with the decrease in volume....whose going to buy them.?? Unless the plan has already been set. On who gets the patent company (LQMT). I'm numb right now, so nothing will shock me. We are in the 3rd quarter, the promised quarter for something to happen. In two weeks we start the fourth quarter. BUT...I can almost guarantee, seeing the IPHONE sales Friday...that if Liquid Metal
is on the next phone...Samsung will be left in the dust. We all saw how the GOLD PHONE sold out just an hour after the stores opened..everyone wanted the GOLD PHONE....I'm sure if they start talking about a Liquid Metal phone next...those lines won't stop...even with another $200 added on to the phone. I can see those phones getting sold on the black market they will be so popular. If I was into the "high tech" Phones...instead of my flip up....I would pay a few hundred extra for a Liquid Metal phone...especailly if APPLE has a good buy back program for upgrading to a newer model. A Liquid Metal phone will blow any wall street expectations out of the water...I think the two phones Friday greatly exceeded Wall Streets expectations. We can hope for that. I never planned on selling LQMT, and if I had been, this sure isn't the time to do it.
Probably so.
Imagine this "if/when" Liquid Metal is used.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/09/21/apple-iphone-stock-out/
Today show IPHONE Update..I just checked...they showed lines still going around the "Flag Ship" store in Manhattan..Some had been camped out 10 days in advance....the Gold Phone is sold out..sold out at 8:30 am.......if APPLE comes out with a Liquid Metal Case...they won't be able to keep it in stock....
No one knows...absolutely no one here on this board knows...we are all in the same boat...it could go any of your alternatives or ones you didn't list.
Just wondering...when the "sheet" patent of APPLE/LQMT was discussed, there were those here
that said...its just a patent....doesn't really have to be proven....to be patented..its just an idea.
But now with a "competing" technology patent....that same attitude isn't present. Its like its done, its proven and its going to be a great competitor to the APPLE Patent...so, why the difference??
On the Today show....they were outside the APPLE store...people were camping out for a couple of days to be the first...they showed video of lines in Japan...all down the block and around the corner..
just for the phones....and an analyst showed a graph...on how APPLE is taking back market share of Phones...
On Today Show this morning..LONG lines waiting for the two new APPLE Iphones, not just in US, ...also reported that APPLE is gaining back market share from Samsung. And APPLE is developing buy back programs, for trading in phones for upgrades. With the economy improving...I have little doubt that a Liquid Metal phone, even with a large price increase, will be a blockbuster. The price will have little effect.
Especially with a buy back program in place. Even for me, that traded in my IPHONE for a flip up because I'm just not into all that technology....if I was looking for such a phone, or tablet,...if one was made out of Liquid Metal...that would be such a powerful draw in my psyche, that I'd be willing to pay quite a bit more to have the Liquid Metal product. Jobs put design at the top of the priority list.
He knew what sold...the "look".
I wonder what combination of metals.
Why??? What he does, you will do??? Knowing all the past details of this company means absolutely nothing as to future performance. Management has changed, technology has changed. The only thing that matters is the future and right now, no one has a clue. You either hold on or cut bait..
And one more if I may be so bold, since' I'm known as a pumper. There is the possibility, because I was in another company that did so (ONT Technology), that Steipp is deliberately NOT going after contracts to keep the price low, for some eventual "buy out" for a fraction of what its worth.
Why didn't Steipp know about the Knives?? Why during the CC and the question came up about the
Sheet Patent, a milestone patent in the technology, why did he ignore that patent completely in his answer. He should have said YES, ITS IN THE CRUCIBLE...but he didn't. He avoided mentioning it, and it was deliberate. Why hasn't that spring contract been signed?? Why all those new shares??? what better way to keep serious investors away...what better way of keeping the price below $1. The "threat" of MASSIVE DILUTION coming...poison pill??? Yes, poison to current investors...its a warning sign to all potential investors. Until one day we wake up, and find Steipp sold the company "legally" under the reason of "bankruptcy was near, and all those shares if sold, would have plunged the stock price down so far, their sale wouldn't have been enough to sustain the company". That was my experience with another company....and all this time..I knew it could be a possibility with this one.
So, for those that consider me a "pumper"...chew on this...I HOPE....this isn't the case....but in my log book, its a possibility.
Sorry...I meant post 36908....where Steipp ignores the basic question of whether the Sheet patent is under the dual ownership crucible...Steipp could have said "Yes, it is" but for some reason, he went into detail on the Crucible, but still avoided the Sheet Patent question....so, by posting STeipps response...would have put more questions into a readers mind...so I just wanted to clear it up.
"WHEW"..gaad..no wonder I don't want to post much anymore...but yet I did..now..yes....I'm gone again...sorry to intrude but I thought it needed explaining.