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hey breeze, can i get your email? i'm not a paid subscriber here so it won't let me message you
I've also noticed there is a visitor counter now at the bottom of the homepage? If that is what that number represents it's spinning like a top with over 1,000 visits from yesterday early in the day till this afternoon. Maybe that isn't what that number is but it keeps going up at a rapid rate.
In case you haven't looked recently, the rebuilder website has been changing often; I looked today and it contains several new videos of various doctors and clinics that are advocating the rebuilder as part of treatment protocol. Just my opinion but i would be hesitant to take small gains if the stock begins to move north, patience could pay off extremely well here. Best wishes to you all..... even the doubters and complainers, lol. Go RBRM!
Good post wabadon, You may be onto something. They are definately not wasting money on useless public announcments anymore and we have heard in the past we could be a buyout candidate. If we have a stream of sales coming in and at the new higher price per unit there could be some big changes taking place. Onto the nasdaq finally? Who knows but i do believe something big is going on behind the scenes. I noticed on their website there is a quote now from the mayo clinic? I searched mayo's site but couldn't find that specific quote but still i've never seen any obvious fake or misleading infomation from the company either; i think we are in good shape. I'm eager to hear any news but looks like waiting is as good as it gets for now.
Best wishes to you and your family for the holidays.
I do not know, i would assume if anyone is there on Saturday it would be employees only and not upper management which is who i would have questions for. Thanks though, if i was that close i would take a vacation day and check it out myself. Are you invested in RBRM?
I emailed the doc about financials and he did not respond. I did see someone on the yahoo finance board wrote that they had contacted the company and was assured that they would be out in October..... If so then we should know by the end of the week.
Has anyone emailed the doctor to inquire when to expect financials? If not, i will, i ain't skeered.
good idea, maybe i should do that to my account when it updates 20 minutes after the market open; it would be refreshing to look at from time to time at least
darn, someone beat me to it. Someone is definately messing with the price eh? 0.01 x 2million shares pre-market!
I've got a hunch financials will be out this week. Last time (2 quarters ago) when the warning was posted on pinksheets, they were realeased like the next day or two after. Go RBRM!!! Compare what you could have bought @ today and whatever the price goes to when news finally comes out and tell me it wouldn't have been a great trade.
Yeah I'm still here to. Glad to see you are aswell wabadon. Watching this stock put me to sleep temporarily. I had really hoped the public relations contract had been executed and along with that the increased exposure and interest. As aggrivating as it is that no news comes out it is also obvious in past financials that we are making good gains financially as a company. It is my personal opinion the doc has our best interests at heart and seldom , if ever, spends money recklessly.
There is a missing piece of the puzzle that goes along with what i wrote about the possibility of this one having been short sold. I'm just going by memory here so the exact details may not match what i'm saying but the point will be made.....( you'd have to read the sho regulations part yourself to find it, i'm not going to read it again at this time) I did post where to find it in one of my previous posts.
While researching naked short selling and learning about that there is a stipulation about the condition of the company that causes people who short sale to follow regulations... basically it was after an ipo becomes a publicly traded company or something to that effect. Now, if the definition of a publiclly traded company is one who has traded for a certain time period or what i don't know but that was a loophole i noticed and if that were indeed the law the potential there is for short or naked short sold shared that occur during a companies infancy that may remain outstanding till a short squeeze does occur. I know from looking on the otcmarket site at various companies and what little short sale info they provide that i have seen one that had shorted shares that were in excess of 140 days and there was no flag. (that in my mind leads me to believe that possiblity of the loophole i mentioned)
I know i'm not the only one who noticed starting several months back when we were actually trading on a regular basis just not always a large dollar amount that the larger trades going through were well above the ask and at the end of the day it would be a small trade taking it back down yet again. Even yesterday or whenever, 2,000 @ 0.012 yeah that person wanted out for $24 before commission, lol. Just think what you would do if you had 5 million shares shorted and the possibility for that loophole does exist. You could sit on those and stew for years if needed always hoping for and maybe even selling 2,000 shares here and there to discourage people who have shares to sell them so get you out of this situation. (there are what? about 3 million shares unaccounted for?) The quantities here are irrelevant in this scenario. Could have only 1 million shorted or whatever but this company (supposedly noone knows about) will begin trading very rapidly the very moment news comes out every time: i say it's someone covering their position or at least that is what makes the most sense to me.
I want this stock to trade at it true value as much as anyone but we need good numbers and news to force the squeeze if it does indeed exist. One thing i found while browsing for info, a site called quantcast.com it shows quantity hits for websites; for rbrm's the traffic had grown significantly over the past 6 months though it was dropping off some. Also on rbrm's website i've noticed it no longer has an investors link and it mentions being a division of RBRM, we have other divisions? That about the extent of any food for thought i have at this point.
What i like so much about this company is that it is based on a man's desire to heal his family and the result was a product that can improve so many lives with such a high rate of effectiveness. The holdup is people knowing about the rebuilder plain and simple. Ask random people if they've ever heard of one and basically everyone is going to tell you no, ask them if they have heard of painpills and of course lots of people would answer yes. The sales will skyrocket when it becomes common knowledge amoung doctors (i'm pretty sure that is what the company has been up to) that the rebuilder is the most cost effective way of dealing with the problem; not to mention the only cure and acheives the desired results which is being able to resume a normal life with normal mobility.
RBRM does license the technology, for how many years? i have no idea, and will own the rights to the new products being developed; if i'm not mistaken. The upcoming device for nurses to draw blood will obviously equal several million in sales and that would be "our" product and could be realized in a very short amount of time, that is inovation and here in the present. I don't recall the date but a year or more ago we had 400k sales for a month, right? Sales have seemingly slowed but i believe it is because the focus has shifted to the right market and is no longer dependent on internet sales from individuals willing to take a risk to see if it worked or they got scammed..... If i was old i'm not sure how believing i would be to buy some "cure" online that noone has heard of. But i have, as well as others; probably even you, researched and looked up all the stuff i could find on rbrm and the rebuilder and low and behold everyone says it's the real deal! That means this incredibly unbelievable gain on investment is indeed possible. I don't think the institutions that own the majority are selling out anytime soon so that leaves the 32 million shares to balance the buying and selling that will result from new developements and so on.
However, it comes with a huge risk as well. If rbrm's abilities to capitalize on these opportunities in a well run business manner doesn't happen the results could also be greatly diminished and it not reach the potential it apparently has it's sights on. In the last news it mentioned we have sold state distributorships? I'm guessing one of those costs a few dollars right? and new sales increases. He also restates that the company has waited a long time to get to this exciting new phase of our business. Sounds to me like things are coming together we just don't know as much about how well they are going yet.
I have yet to see a report on the quantity of naked short sales for this company but really wish i could. Maybe i'll try to buy one again over the weekend. The remaining float that stays around 3 million, it seems, could be acquired for less than 60,000 dollars at the current prices. In my opinion it's bases loaded for rbrm all the way around. The potential naked shortselling is , possibly, the only thing holding it down.
I currently value the company at about 20 million. My best guess on what the shares should trade at presently, near term... is 25 cents, in a no naked short sale situation; Additionally i would not hesitate to think they could reach 1 dollar per share within 5 years. I am pressed for time today but will elaborate more when i get a chance.
Mind if i ask the size of your position? If anyone has access to the naked short sale/ short sale history it's not difficult to calculate what price can be reached in the near term by creating a squeeze. Any other current investors reading, join in and feel free to contribute.... I'm all for affirmative action and forcing a squeeze simply because of how morally wrong i think it is for brokers/market makers to naked short sale. If enough shares are accounted for we can make it happen.
When i mentioned taking the company private, in the previous post, i was referring to access to the shares; private/ personally having the certificates. That takes away the brokers/ market makers ability to short sale and more importantly naked shorting.
I do honestly understand your concern and see thsoe same things, however i am not involved in any of that so i don't choose to elaborate or get wrapped up in thinking about that; it's a waste of my thoughtlife.
Still, as i mentioned a "run on the bank" forces a short squeeze which reveals and esposes the true identity and ownership of all outstanding shares; those caught with phantom shares outstanding have to cover that position otherwise they could be denied the ability to cover the potentially many other short positions they are shorting which could bring a giant to it's knees.
They would have to cover their position, no questions asked. The most pertinant question is who owns how many shares and how to gets those off the electronic trading platform to stop any and all phantom shares. Naked shortselling is not even cosidered a problem by the SEC so long as the seller has equivalent equity to match the dollar amount they have sold; that is totally ludacris but i've been watching news clips and reading up on it with a fairly big portion of my spare time.
I know there are a few investors that read this so collective effort could give us leverage enough to make this move back up the chart. If i didn't have my funds all allocated i would still be buying up shares. I have bought rbrm on numerous occasions for about 2 years now and will continue to do so till it shows it's true value. The thing that really grabbed my attention is the thought that the proceeds from phantom shares do not make it to the listed company. People have been aggrivated at the Dr. but look at if from this perspective....a man puts a lot of time, energy and money into launching a public company to help with the funding needed to build product and with nearly all the shares outstanding didnt receive much at all in the way of funding. How dedicated would you be to see those investors reaping huge returns on investment when the investment was never realized? It seems like i read a comment somewhere about how the company does not receive money from the sale of shares. If they don't receive money that shows how strong of a company and leadership we do have working for us, after all bankruptcies are everywhere and our little gem has been plugging away, hiring more people and not only staying afloat but able to invest 1/3 of a million dollars for public relations and such; if that would have happened. There is no telling how much this would be worth per share if it were taken private and no selling, naked or otherwise were able to occur.
Want to read something very interesting? This is most likely what is going on and has been with this stock. Go to buyins.net and scroll to the bottom left (RegSHO Legal Study. I was wrong in thinking this stock isn't shortsold, especially naked short sold, if you start reading from section (1058) and work your way down it becomes obvious how the huge sell volume occured long ago with this company and also tells how a "run on the bank" could set this one back on track. Dr. Phillips was right long ago in requesting people take actual possesion of their shares; this would eliminate the market makers/ brokers ability to sell replications of the same shares multiple times..... which of course floods the market with sales offers and send the price down even more. Keep in mind who our competition is and how much financial leverage they have and it's not difficult to see how and why someone would attempt to eliminate RBRM's ability to raise capital through the actual sale of the real public float at a truely calculated valuation. Even if those clowns have to cough up $1.00 per share and the public sold out that is what about 32,000,000 that if would cost them in a worst case scenario. It becomes apparent in my recent studies of naked short selling that it is highly possible for market makers/ brokers to sell (electronically) the same shares many times legally and using a stock borrow program pass them along to each other indefinately. This is only possible and easily done in the electronic scenario. If all legit holders of shares would request paper certificates of these shares they own the market makers would all have to fight over what is left to "locate" the required shares to met legislation on short selling and naked short selling. I can only speak for myself but i own a fairly significant amount of the public float; i will be filing for my certificate very soon and suggest everyone does the same to raise the price back to where is should be. You can even subscribe to the service at the website above and get a detailed report of all short sales and nakes short sales for RBRM; i tried but it won't accept my card for some reason. If anyone does, posting that information would give everyone an accurate price that will be reached by these antagonists having to cover those positions.
One more thing in case you don't bother reading the article, only margin accounts are allowed to have their shares borrowed from them and they don't have to tell you what they've done with them either. I do not have a margin account but am not leaving this to chance so i will request mine soon. (probably next week) If everyone pulls together and does this you'll see the results that you know this stock has had all along. My online broker told me it will cost $100.00 to receive the certificate; a small price to pay considering what results woudl follow. Feel free to comment and share your thoughs. I don't have a problem telling how many shares i own and being upfront about it; does anyone else?
That's great, i'm patient. As an old carpenter would say.... "meansure twice, cut once"
I just hung up from a call to the big apple place. No news coming out immediately, it didn't seem, and they are still gathering the necessary information to give an informed educated pitch to the investment groups they associate with and also for investor related news releases and such. In a way it would be nice to have something already but if they are good at what they do it won't take much to get this ball rolling.
It was implied that there would be news out soon but not "very" soon.
Go rbrm!
my post has an error, mathematically. It should re read 100 to 1 reverse split with the question asking "do you think rbrm will go to 100 dollars per share...ever?) Not that anyone really cares but it bothered me that i messed up a perfectly good post. Go, RBRM!
Not sure why or how someone accomplishes this but i've noticed that the bid ask on investorshub, on rbrm, has shown a ask of 0.05 a few times and even an ask of 0.25 at one point. This was not reflected on pinksheets.com but it does seem like i seen the ask at 0.03 on pinksheets possibly over the weekend.
I wish i knew all the bylaws and so on that apply to trading but since i don't i'll stick with trading. I do have a small quantity of shares for sale at 0.025 so i don't see how it was possible for the best ask to surpass that even on pinksheets. Anyone know how this can happen? Maybe some broker was pushing an order past or through other existing orders?
If you are fascinated with china, guess what; you can buy into those companies instead. RBRM is majority owned by private institutions if your argument for this tactic is so well thought out convince them to do it otherwise you are wasting your thoughts and ideas. Let's see i could take 1,000 shares of rbrm and reverse split that into 1 share worth a dollar.... that puts me back to 0.01 per share that now have to go to 3 dollars a share in order to triple my money. Or i could have 1,000 shares that have a longterm potential to reach 1.00 per share. In general institutional investors don't invest in companies that do not have years of historical growth. And even then there has to be a lot of shares for them to move large quantities of money.
Think rbrm would be worth 1000 dollars per share on the nasdaq..... ever?
Also, unless i am mistaken, the company has to have a certain amount of assets/captital to become listed. The fad is and has been china stocks and this is why some have done so well. Hmm... do i invest in a potentially risky revolution of medical science that not to many people know about or have even heard of? or do i invest in get rich quick slave labor. We all know which country is doing well, we hear about it all the time how china is growing and expanding. And the 3 year example how it hasn't done anything....you can't see the forest because of all the trees. What that share price does is not nearly as valuable as what the company "is" doing. Do you honestly think that if we were raking in lots of money and that was present on the financials this stock would stay down?
I've read your posts on here and yahoo, it's the same old stuff pertaining to the past that is never altered by the present and future events happening with the company. You even posted how you contacted the sec to have the company investigated ... blah, blah, blah... I guess that was suppose to boost investor confidence? And btw, higher prices better investor confidence, there are companies on the otc with pretty high share prices as well as pinksheets. I have no idea of your investing background or how well you've done but if it's that bad, try using one of the many time tested stock picking programs; you would make steady gains and not be nearly so stressed out. Maybe you like to live on the edge, if so i hear the edge of china is great this time of year. Enjoyed the post.
Cappuchinno anyone was my legitmate investor related responce; apparently someone must have pleaded their case out of spite and had it removed. All i can say is grow up please. It was my way of not responding to this very skewed rant about shell companies and so on; If i have to explain and teach how people set up and use shell companies to funnel away money, reducing taxes, and a bout other stuff to unappreciative people; i would most definately be charging. As i use this site on my own freewill to share information and receive it i believe i have the right to make sarcastic remarks when someone is responding to something i said and including a lot of diluted dribble that has absolutely no relevance to the discussion board which in this case is about RBRM.
Complaining about the world's problem and a general unhappy outlook onlife simply brings investor's ability to make clear educated decisions more mind bending and not very helpful at all. If you'd like to rant and get realtime responses that i'm sure you could really get your keyboard fired up on; try chatting.
One final note, since i do like to give information as well as receive it; dividends are totally relevant. Especially given a company that (if bought at current prices or better yet back at 0.01) could easily in a few years payout dividends equal to your investment. I still don't think a lot of people realize that the sales were low and slow because we catered to the public and in case you didn't know the public wasn't letting go of much money for the past year or so. Now we are working with lots of doctors who decide who "needs" one, not who can buy one out of pocket so the sales will increase dramatically. I fully expect to read we have a sales month of one million dollars; gross sales this year. Even if i'm wrong, this will happen near term.
How much did you offer for those shares? If it was less than 0.024 that is because noone is selling any quantity at that price. As i've said already watch how many shares sell at the lower prices, it is very few and is (in my oh so uneducated, unable to possibly comprehend what is really going on here way) someone with millions of shares who uses that leverage to keep the price down so they can continue to aquire shares; who knows how long they have been doing it? Quite a while i would guess. Float is 30 something million that you don't get to see who owns them; the rest are accounted for on pinksheets. That is what is going on here and has. An investment only lost value when you sell it, correct? To be perfectly honest this does make sense to me. You can't buy lots of shares cheap often because those are only available when an investors with a large quantity finally becomes disgusted and sells out; that is the goal of this mystery seller's tactic.
You really want to know why this price hasn't skyrockted yet? Answer these two questions.
How much in dividends have you recouped by owning this stock to date?
With 200 millions shares to divide the revenues between how much is each individual stock actually worth?
This company went public at the worst possible time but has at least maintained through that crisis and is just now poised for rapid growth and revenues. It is my belief that what i've noticed to be someone aquiring shares will stop whoever is using the selling leverage that plagues this stock and once that happens a future revenues outlook will be more accurately reflected in the price.
I've read everything i can get my hands on about this company and know how it trades and what happened with the price when it went public and so on. I didn't make the mistake of buying it way back then so all i see is upside potential; i've also noticed what is going on with the shares trading. It is being accumlated and i do NOT believe it is being shortshold or naked short sold or anything of the like. Pinksheets shows when it is shorted, typically twice a month and the quantity isn't very large normally. Maybe some investors trade shares back and forth amongst themselves to acheive such irrational swings but that is coming to an end as you will see; so go on and bash the stock and any positive sentiments people have including mine. The future is bright for rbrm, not the past.
Post #1782. It's almost like the people here complaining are the ones doing it, the price is up over 50 percent in a very short time period and people are complaining? Hello. Try going through the Big Apple website also. Those guys are fixing to put this puppy on the map based on what i gather from what that company specializes in. If you are truly a believer in the company and product relax and forget you own it for 3 months and i'd be willing to bet you'll never complain about the price again. Oh and the news is awesome! Rock on Rebuilder.
1,000 doctors 1,000 patients; results to come out around august. I have to admit, that is a great way to get doctors to recommend the rebuilder beginning in the near term. If 90% see the expected results (900 doctors could potentially start recommending the rebuilder to their patients) IF they are neuropathy based doctors, even at 1 recommendation per month, this should equal a huge increase in sales. Not to mention the results that are sure to follow with other doctors coming onboard. I'm still liking how not many shares , if any, trade on the days someone is offering a low bid price to test the market. If you are not sure what i am referring to about the 1,000 doctos, read the march financial results 2010 on pinksheets.com I am kinda disappointed that we stopped selling the rebuilders to the public but it's very clear we are wading into the profit pool we belong in.
thanks for the info, too bad it doesn't allow copy and pasting that article from the ceocfo site. i did find something new on the rebuildermedical site in case you hadn't seen it; apparently the neuropathy book is published and available on amaxon.com now... the link is http://www.amazon.com/Beating-Neuropathy-Taking-Misery-Miracles/dp/1432748971/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269028957&sr=1-13/
Looks like the bid just went up again.
My guess is the volume will be pretty high volume today but if anyone watches it, watch the quantities that trade at the higher prices. Someone is accumulating a lot of shares; no information on pinksheets or not there's no way i'll be selling any till the news does come out or we have one heck of a jump. I'll assume there are a few daytraders on this one at the moment because the volume gives enough dollars worth to make some gains but still believe this one isn't actively daytraded. If you sale before the pr you'll probably be very disappointed i do believe that. The market has been open 20 minutes and none sold. I'm liking how not a lot of shares sell when i see the bid drop and large quantities were selling when the bid was climbing.
I agree apostle13 and with this move in volume and no news out, this could be what puts this chart back to were it could be. The bid has been closely chasing the ask the past few days. I hope this buying if from someone who is long. If the outstanding shares number is accurate, there really isn't more than 3 million shares left for purchase. A long position would dwindle that and potentially send this one flying.
How effective is the rebuilder on your wife's arthritis? I have considered buying one for my grandmother but i haven't read anything on the length of time the aririthis pain is relieved.
Let's hope the new health care reform has an amendment that reads all RBRM shareholders receive windfall of profits. Seriously though, the only thing i've read concerning the type of company this is (durable medical devices) and this was some time ago; was the possibility of a 15 percent tax on those good sold. So if that indeeds turns out to be the case, worst case scenario, we still earn 15% on gross sales; taxes may or may not alter that depending on how the company is set up to handle that aspect of accounting. I do know one thing, i wish the quarterly report would come out but also think the longer it is taking possibly the better. Think they have that many orders and receipts to sort through? woowho!
Thanks for the positive feedback wabadon, i appreciate it. I'm glad you were able to discover the rebuilder and use it, i wish more people i've told about it would make the effort to go get one. Maybe before long this investment will pay off like it should have already and i'll put one each in their stockings, get it? Ok, enough cheesy jokes for now. It really is nice to see someone who has used the product speaking highly of it and even buying stock in the company and offering an opinion and testimony of the product. Best wishes to you and your investment. With the recent volume and no news out i think the tide is about to turn on whoever has been holding the price down for so long.
I appreciate your comment i-man. I'm not here to argue details noone knows the exact answer to however this isn't a day traded stock persay unless it is a current investor. Do you honestly think someone would watch this one daily when it doesn't do anything really, even when good news comes out. I'm not a daytrader but i have made some gains with this stock and then aquired more at a later date pretty cheap. There has to be a buyer in order to sell. A stockholder who knows how this particular stock acts historically could own, let's say for example 20,000,000 shares and knows it trades between 0.03 and 0.01 historically. Given a chance.... back in october would be an example; sells 1,000,000 @ 0.025 and wait for it to go down let's say in december for example while no news came out and people who had bought on good news had lost a lot of the purchased value of the stock, using the concept of stopping their losses ( pretty sound with dollar stocks but not so much with pennies) or whatever the reason shares are liquidated. The original seller buys up those open sell orders when they show up; they would know if they watch level II quotes for that opportunity or simple had a 2,500,000 share order at 0.01 because they know it will go back down to that so they get 1.5 million shares for free; minus commission of course. Now they have 1.5 million shares to sell for 0.005 if they wish why would they care the price? It's free shares now so it's all gain. Again in this scenario you cannot possibly know the reason someone sells, car payment is due, wife went shopping, whatever. The reply i left for tech guru mentions placing orders that are good until filled. I don't know if you are familiar with those but you pay one set price and that order is executed until satisfied. Small transactions... 500 shares or even 5000 or less at odd pricing is simply someone trying to move the price up or down for short term selling or buying for personal gains. If you have so many shares you outsell your buyers you can keep a stock price down. That is my opinion as to what goes on with this stock. I've done my homework. I know how this stock trades so i do feel your frustration but logic outwins conspiracy everytime. I am not onboard with any theory that someone messes with or "screws" with this stock as someone so delicately put it. What happens to it, again in my opinion, is the nature of investing; someone has a ton of leverage and has/had lost a great deal in value so they weild that leverage maliciously for their own gain but at the cost of other investors. If you are also looking for a theory, look into that one. Do the math and look at who owns that kind of volume of shares at least it's something with recorded facts to reflect upon.
I didn't include any specific "flawed" math. I even stated that i didn't do the math. I didn't account for the small transactions, which of course could be someone pushing the price down in attempts to buy more at cheaper prices, however unless a person's order was all or none a buy will continue at the limit price or better(cheaper) till the requested number of shares has been purchased completely. You asked for a theory unless i'm mistaken and i didn't even give that. I'm pretty sure if i wanted, if there were no orders to buy, sell myself my own shares for much less or more than any recent prices. You don't need to be hostile and call anything flawed. I'm sure what i wrote was not a bash on the company so constructive instead of destructive critism would make for a healthier exchange of ideas. I could simply not post and let the exchange keep investors in despair but i signed up to share information that might help, not hurt investor opinion. Thanks for the critism, i'm sure other people will post that you can critize to so that should help perhaps.
I recently signed up so i can post on this site after reading the comments on here over the past few weeks for any news and so on. I have to admit, i'm not very impressed at how fragile the investors belief in this company is. Does the stock price make sense? It does actually, someone is buying and someone is selling; that's how stocks work. Should the price be much higher? Indeed! But you can't control what people willing to buy the stock are willing to pay now can you? The key to making money with investments is to buy low and sell high of course. Anyone who has paid .02 per share would most certainly have liked to buy it at the current price instead and have twice as many stocks in RBRM. One thing with investing that will always remain true is that you don't know what is going on in a person's financial/personal life that causes them to sell. For all anyone here knows someone needed 30,000 dollars to buy into some more tangible investment. (i used 30,000 as a generalized number without doing the math on total dollar amount sold of rbrm on friday) In the grand scheme of things 30,000 dollars is equivalent to what? 15 rebuilders plus accessories; gloves , socks and so on. I hardly find that dollar amount and share number something to be stressed over or worried about. Use logic not emotion when determining how to react or better yet, not react to such movements. Truth be told, judging by the financials and so on 197,000,000 shares are outstanding at oct, last year and there was a lot of buying after that figure so the reality of it is that there isn't a lot of shares to be bought. If you truly believe in this company and what factual information you've read about it...... buy, buy and buy some more. If not sell out and put your mind at ease. This stock is loaded for bear, patience is the key. I could go on and on but wanted to at least share this much at the moment to help perhaps ease some tension i see on this forum.