I sure hope our old buddy Harry stops by to chat! Oh
that's right he has no time for car wrecks!!(((((((

Harry Hargens...

Thanks for Reminding all that "the speed and security
of the system is defined by the software, NOT the
pin pad". Can you say DOGCRYPTION!!((((( Hey, I sure
like the http://www.safetpay.com site.

By the way you didn't try to work a deal with Rogel
behind Tom's back did ya??((((((((( Shame on you!!

By: Tradewinds $$$$
Reply To: 4276 by hallsboy $$$ Tuesday, 5 Oct 1999 at 1:18 PM EDT
Post # of 313498



1) They are using the same PIN pad. That is different from saying they have the same technology. The speed and security of the system is defined by the software, not the PIN pad. Only time will tell if MRTO really has something comparable to ECNC's SafeTpay; the fact that they are using the same PIN pad is virtually irrelevant.

2) I agree, it would be great if SafeTPay was out there shouting, "Hey, look at me". But that can't begin until the system is up and running, the payments industry (i.e. Banks) do NOT take kindly to smoke and mirrors, so you can't loudly promote something before it works.

3) As posted previously, looks like MRTO and ECNC have very different business plans, even though their systems may have similarities.

No doubt, it's a horse race. There will be competition. Can't let that surpirse or panic us. ECNC's superior game plan should make it come out way ahead.

DC...

Nice post!! I could post 100's of old posts that keep this
c.r.a.p. going. Why do people that have no faith in Tom
or eConnect continue to post day after day?? They want
you to debate with them. For what?? Let me get this
straight. A certain poster/s have no faith in a company
and think it is a scam. Fine!! Then move on!! One would
have no reason to stay and twist and spin day after day.
Unless he/she had other motives!!))))

eSA a support group?? >>>>>> Wow, no comment, but why
are so many eConnect bashers concerned about it???

Dave
eSA
http://www.econnectsa.org

SPOOKY STUFF...

LMFAO!!)))

IMO S&K = "DUMB&DUMBER">>>>>>>

Dave
eSA Member
http://www.econnectsa.org

From President/CEO of NDFC...

NDFC announced that the proposed January 2, 2001 acquisition by eConnect (San Pedro, CA) has not been completed.

NDFC has reentered discussions to enable eConnect to acquire National Data Funding Corp.

NDFC continues to provide support and service for the eConnect Bank Eyes Only internet payment solution.

NDFC also acknowledges their continuing vender contract with eConnect for the sale and global distribution of the eCashPad.

David K. Paul
President/CEO of NDFC

By: SCOTTAGUS $$$$
Reply To: 303368 by Bf74 $$$ Monday, 15 Jan 2001 at 11:01 AM EST
Post # of 304161


Bf74, you have every right to NOT be part of the eSA. If you think your single voice is as great as the many then we are happy for you.
If you were are interested in learning about the eSA, here is a little short history on us. This letter was drafted by the BODs to be sent to the members to reasure the members that their dues would not be used except for eSA business.

This was for the "Members Only" eyes, but because you seem determined to degrade the intentions of the BODs and the eSA as a whole, I will copy to this board our dues letter.

PLEASE LET ME STRESS THAT THE BEST SOURCE TO OBTAIN INFORMATION ON THE eSA, IS THROUGH OUR WEB SITE:
www.econnectsa.org

Here is the dues letter draft. ALL PLEASE READ!
Date: December 22, 2000


eConnect Shareholders Association


REF. Association Dues


Dear Association Members,

In our quest as your elected Board of Directors, we have requested a vote for annual dues from the Association Members. We want to explain the importance of these dues. Any dues received well be registered and placed in an eSA account only. A CPA will monitor the account and full disclosure of activities will be available to all members upon request.
Just to give you an idea about what activity will be included, but not limited to with these funds; we have listed below items/issues the Membership may utilize.

Items:

Contingencies (Legal)
CPA (Setup and quarterly)
Publication (PRs, News Groups)
Postal Services (PO Box, Certified/Registered)
Banking Services (Bank Account, Svc Fee)
Communications (Phone, Fax, Admin.)
Web Site/Administration (Create, Evolve, Update)
Meetings (Annual, Regional)
Travel (Send eSA Rep to sit on Advisory Committee at eConnect)
Marketing (Enrollment)
Security (Review Applications, Investigations)
Register Association (Tax ID, Non-Profit)

These are just a few of the obvious, and as eConnect has challenges, we also will have challenges that shall only be covered by the eConnect Shareholders Association Fund. We, as your Board of Directors, believe these funds shall enhance the eSA's ability to protect the Membership's interests in our investment.

All eSA Members can rest assured that all funds will be spent wholly on eSA business only. Your Board of Directors shall be held accountable to all eSA Members for proper use.

Sincerely,

ESA Board of Directors

And by the way, I am a Republican!
Scott Out!
Director of Treasury - eSA

Investors who are curious...

about the eSA or would like to join.
Go to http://www.econnectsa.org

Dave
eSA

DC; Very refreshing website. Looks like alot of people
who are actually invested in eConnect>))))

Dave
eSA Member

Gosh;> I thought Sillypuddy Investor had gone down
the tubes! iGrub is starting to make Raging Bull look
good. DC the FM gang can't take that because eConnect
hasn't met their timeline they are gonna bash eConnect
and Tom Hughes till the cows come home. I say leave um
here to rot on this dead board!!)))) They belong on
the mrto board. Something as dead as iGrub;>>>>>>

Dave
eSA Member

eConnect's First Group of eCashPads Sent to Consumers Today

SAN PEDRO, Calif., Jan. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- eConnect (OTC Bulletin Board: ECNC - news) announced today that the first group of its eCashPads was shipped today to a limited number of consumers at 4:30 p.m. (PDT).

Software installation programs for these eCashPads will be placed at www.econnectholdings.com (http://www.econnectholdings.com) under a new section titled ``software downloads''. This software will support Win95/Win98 with the first release, with an update to provide support for WinME/Win2K soon after.

ATM card with PIN entered same as cash Internet transactions on line debit support is dependent on Regional ATM card network trials that are expected to begin in the first quarter of 2001.

The next shipment of eCashPads is scheduled to arrive in mid-January at NDFC where they will be immediately injected with a Master Session Key and then shipped to a growing list of eCashPad consumers. The reason for the limited shipment approach is the test of robustness for eCashPad tech support, product support and customer service support.

The eConnect eCashPad sells for $59.95 and enables the Internet consumer to prevent financial card data from being seen or stored at the web merchant's site, and will also enable instant cash ATM card with PIN Internet payments between countries such as the United States and the Caribbean and Latin America, which will be supported by the eConnect USA and the eConnect Caribbean S.A Hosts, to be later followed by the eConnect Ireland and eConnect China hosts.

Safe Harbor

This press release contains certain statements that are neither reported financial results nor other historical information. These statements are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe-harbor provisions of federal securities laws. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statement.

Many of these risks and uncertainties relate to factors that are beyond our ability to control or estimate precisely, such as future market and economic conditions, the behavior of other market participants and the actions of government regulators.

These risk factors are detailed in eConnect's publicly filed reports. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this press release. eConnect does not undertake any obligation to publicly release any revisions to these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of these materials.

For further information, please contact Frederic Biddle or Fred MacFarlane, both of Sitrick And Company, 310-788-2850.

SOURCE: eConnect

A Happy New Year...

to all my eConnect friends!

Just returned from 6 wonderful days in Washington,DC
with my wife. What an awe inspiring place. When
watching a performance of "A Christmas Carol" in the
Ford's Theatre. Both of us were taken by the awe of
such a land mark of American History. The Vietnam
Memorial, Lincoln Memorial, Archives, Washington Monument,
Arlington Cemetary, Union Station, White House and The
Capitol to name a few. Make you start to grasp the
blood, sweat and lives that were given to make the
United States of America the Super Power it is today.

Any way it made me return home more commited to my
convictions than ever. If you believe in something
don't let anyone take your dream from you!!))))))

Dave
eSA Member

I'm a stay'n...eom

5 steps to the DEATH of the iHub eConnect board!!)))LMAO
2 Directors - Won't take long to check over 3-5 posts a
day;> RB is a disaster at times, but still most of the
good dd comes from it's members. Good luck jordan, jarta,
and WHO??? Hope ya make this place a big hit;>>>>>>

Dave
eSA Member

eConnect Informative Post New Message / View Replies
By: lissavior1
Reply To: None Wednesday, 20 Dec 2000 at 7:42 PM EST
Post # of 4821

< Previous Respond Next >

Update on RG TecQ:

I communicated with Rogel today about the information that his company, RG TecQ, had sent out and the concern I had that in some way his actions would result in loss of "exclusiveness" that eConnect currently has with the technology.

Rogel assured me that eConnect has an exclusive arrangement when using his AuthoTecq system with their Ecashpad. Competitors who want to use the AuthoTecq system could not get to use it with a card. eConnect has an exclusive arrangement and all others would need to go through eConnect to gain the full functionality.

My impression is that eConnect will own this piece of the market and that Rogel, through RG TecQ, will be presenting the system to financial institutions throughout the globe, working together for the benefit of both companies!

I feel that this is a very encouraging arrangement and keeps eConnects large investment in the revolutionary technology proprietary. I feel very good that both companies can thrive but for all those here, ECNC can really explode in this marketplace with partners like Rogel and RG TecQ. Competitors still do not have anything near what eConnect is rolling out and if they want it, they will have to come to eConnect to get it! (IMO)

By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 278361 by lnside_eConnect $$$$ Saturday, 9 Dec 2000 at 7:49 PM EST
Post # of 289679


I think you misunderstood my purpose.

I don't know if you were following the threads, but
I originally made the CRACK.ME file as "proof" to
some people on this board that my technology exists.
You're correct about it being kind of a silly challenge,
but then again, it was in response to a silly question.
It's not meant to "prove" anything. The proof exists
with certification with Financial Institutions. An
individual's opinion isn't worth a whole helluva lot.
However, a major financial institution IS! Dogcryption
has already been looked over by some of the biggest
financial institutions and have been given the "thumbs
up". I wouldn't be integrating with eFunds if it
hasn't or doesn't exist, know what I mean? I think
sometimes people have a hard time looing BEYOND what
they want to see.

As for getting "slapped" - as long as I do not reveal
any information that is deemed "inside", I'm okay.

Let's use Rogel's words;>

By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 276006 by Fusionary $$$ Wednesday, 6 Dec 2000 at 12:50 AM EST
Post # of 289676


If eConnect kept to their contract "No".

Obviously, if eConnect and I had a falling
out, I would go to whomever offered me
the most money.

However, I am loyal to whomever is loyal
to me. So far, eConnect hasn't done
anything that would prove to be otherwise.

Go for it!!)))))))

By: SURFiT_RIPS_CST $$$
Reply To: None Wednesday, 20 Dec 2000 at 8:55 AM EST
Post # of 289303


WARNING:MIDAS98 HAS ALWAYS BASHED ECNC!IGNORE THE DOG!EOM

midas;> I don't have to refute any of your points.
The points you want refuted are meaningless. Some
I also know for a fact are lies!!))))) You are not
respected on RB. Don't think you will fool any one
here. Other than your new "Beach" cronies;>)))))

Dave
eSA Member

eConnect Secures Additional $5 Million Equity Financing From Alpha Venture Capital Inc.

SAN PEDRO, Calif., Oct. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- eConnect (ECNC) announced that it has signed a definitive agreement for up to $5 million in additional equity financing from Alpha Venture Capital Inc., a member of the Alpha Group of Funds. The Alpha Group is a $750 million private equity fund specializing in providing financing to emerging small-cap and mid-cap companies in domestic and global markets.

The financing, which is in the form of an equity line, extends a previous $5 million commitment to the Company from Alpha in September, 1999. To date, eConnect has drawn down $5.1 million. The addition leaves a total of $4.9 million available to the Company to draw down, subject to certain terms and conditions.

Part of the funding will be used to ramp up production of the first 100,000 eCashPads for commercial distribution promotionally and at retail, as previously planned. Commercially ready eCashPads have arrived at National Data Funding Corporation for usage in an in-house pilot project.

eConnect is establishing host processing systems in the Dominican Republic, Ireland, Hong Kong and Australia, all of which will be international gateways of eConnect's Bank Eyes Only(TM) secure online electronic payment system for transactions originated by the Company's eCashPad. Those flexible systems are being designed to accommodate other electronic payment systems as well.

Even though recent market conditions have made the venture capital community more conservative in its choice of funding projects, ``We didn't look at the stock performance of the Company,'' said Barry Herman, director of Alpha Venture Capital. ``We looked at their products.

``We did our own due diligence on the validity of eConnect's patents and products -- especially the eCashPad. There's nothing like it anywhere else on the market, and we believe that cash payments over the Internet is the future.''

The eCashPad is a ``plug-and-pay'' PC peripheral that will swipe ATM card-with-PIN as well as credit and smart cards, enabling secure e-commerce. A simple, common-sense solution to Internet security, the eCashPad prevents the consumer's financial card data from being seen or stored at the merchant's web site.

Additional details of the above funding is outlined in a form 424A filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Separately, the Company continues to communicate with a major market maker, who has been actively engaged towards the relisting of eConnect shares on the over-the-counter bulletin board.

Safe Harbor: Certain statements in this release may contain forward- looking information within the meaning of Rule 175 under the Securities Act of 1933 and Rule 3b-6 under the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 and are subject to the safe harbor created under those sections. All statements, other than statements of fact, included in this release, including, without limitation, statements regarding potential future plans and objectives of the company, are forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements.

SOURCE: eConnect

Excellent insight on ECNC


By: misterlmf $$$$
Reply To: None Thursday, 30 Nov 2000 at 11:27 AM EST
Post # of 271401


gambler36, and EVERYONE,

In my opinion there will unfortunately NOT BE ANY CHRISTMAS business for ECNC. The business plan is huge, very complex and comprehensive. ECNC is working very hard to put all the pieces of this eventual CASH COW puzzle together as fast as they can. As we all know there are unforeseen obstacles that crop up for all of us and especially for a business plan the likes of which ECNC is in the process of implementing.

However, the intent to perform is evident by all the SEC filings that are very expensive to compile and are now current. I was at the shareholders meeting and have seen the cashpads work, I have been to NDFC in Chico, CA met and spoken with all the top executives at NDFC, (THEY WANT US AS MUCH OR MORE THAN WE WANT THEM). I know Clinton Wong personally, and know he is sincere, and working very hard to get the cashpads out. The ECNC prominent and impressive presence at COMDEX, the fruits of which I know we all are still waiting anxiously to hear about. The fact that ECNC successfully fought tirelessly against almost insurmountable odds to get relisted. E-funds and all the prestigious alliances that have been made and announced. The first class law firm and PR firm that now represent ECNC. All the patents for this UNIQUE TECHNOLOGY that BELONG to the CEO of ECNC Tom Hughes.

These are only SOME not ALL of the reasons for me to believe that ECNC IS GOING TO BECOME VERY SUCCESSFUL. The cashpads are a reality and will be shipped to consumers shortly. I'm not going to even get into my thoughts about the incredible future for the CASHPAD RS, (RETAIL SALES) that will be introduced in 2001.

As difficult and frustrating as it is and has been for shareholders and ECNC, PATIENCE is necessary to see this incredible GLOBAL BUSINESS PLAN BLOSSOM. In my opinion, our PATIENCE WILL BE RICHLY REWARDED as these goals are achieved.

Pay no attention to the nay sayers and bashers that are presently having a field day on this board. Not one of them has seen or experienced what I have as far as going to San Pedro and Chico and seeing all these things for myself. I live about five minutes from the Asia Pacific Micro office. As I stated previously I have met and spoken to all the primary players at ECNC, NDFC and Asia Pacific. All the nay sayers will quietly disappear when the share price rises and maintains levels above two dollars and climbs to new highs, which I am convinced that it will.

My best wishes to all of you and your families for a happy holiday season and a HEALTHY and PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR FOR US AND ECNC.

ATM Processors "do" support us!

By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 285880 by Iamtonyclifton $$$ Sunday, 17 Dec 2000 at 8:27 PM EST
Post # of 286272


ATM Processors "do" support us!

The ATM networks do support us. But they're their own
entity and if they want to experiment with other things,
it's up to them. They don't really care how many
"processors" hook up to them. Just as long as they
meet their stringent requirements.

These guys are just in the pilot program. We've
already done it.

scoobypax;> You have NO clue to what a complete
idiot you are!!)))) Go back to SI and have some
more real intelligent talk with utha. Better yet
go kiss your leader Anthony;>)))LMAO


Dave
eSA Member

DCinNJ...How many BeachouseChefs is that now???)))

The way I count them their are 4 now! LMAO

By the way I think the BOD should consider $50 for
annual dues. $25 is far to cheap.

Dave
eSA Member

Some Good News!!))))))

By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: None Saturday, 16 Dec 2000 at 7:20 PM EST
Post # of 285882


Some Good News!

Hello Everyone.

I want to share some news, but first I would like to
make a comment about my detractors.

It's apparent to me that they have no clue as to what
to do with the CRACK.ME file I gave them. It's been
well over a week since I made the file available and
it amuses me what tactics they have employed to continue
disparaging the technology. Some have even claimed that
the file contains nothing.

Just so that there is no mistake, the file contains a
CLEAR TEXT message, not unlike the clear text message
of credit card information. The message is not garbled
nor is it a riddle of any sort. It is clear, concise,
and is readily recognizable to anyone who reads it.
The fact that it hasn't been posted here tells me that
the so-called "experts" looking at it have no idea what
they're even looking at. This is a very good endorsement
of the strength of protection we're offering for eCashPad
transmissions over the internet. For those who still
don't believe, might I recommend a membership to the
Flat Earth Society. I hear they're looking for new
members.

In response to questions from people about eConnect's
competitors, I have attached a news article to this
note about what happened to one of them. This is the
fate of ALL of eConnect's competitors. I think a fellow
board member has already posted this article, but I will
re-post it for all to read again. This kind of action
can NEVER happen to the eCashPad network because it just
can't happen technically. The system is designed so that
no one can get access to any database that will actually
contain bunches of credit card numbers.

RG Tecq received news yesterday from eFunds that our
server has been certified for production. This is very
good news because it means the eCashPad network is now
fully operational. The distribution of the eCashPads will
now be the only limiting factor. Look for very exciting
press releases from eConnect in the very near future.

Here's that news article I promised you:

-------------------------------------------------------

HACKER POSTS CREDIT CARD NUMBERS ONLINE

LOS ANGELES - A hacker penetrated an Internet company's
database of credit card numbers and posted more than
55,000 of them online when his demands for money weren't
met.

The FBI is investigating the extortion attempt against
Creditcards.com, which processes credit card transactions
for online companies. No arrests have been made.

Creditcards.com sent an e-mail to its merchants Monday
telling them that hackers contacted the company about
three months ago with a threat to post the credit card
information unless it paid an undisclosed sum of money.

The Web site with the credit card numbers went up when
the money was not paid, but it has since been taken
down, FBI spokesman Matthew McLaughlin said.

Chris B...Clarification on one thing;>

Not 3 years - 5 years

By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 279316 by Tman1018 $$$$ Saturday, 9 Dec 2000 at 10:28 PM EST
Post # of 285676


It isn't an "if" but a "when".

As I stated in previous posts, 5 years from now when
quantam computers and A.I. (artificial intelligence)
has matured, ALL KNOWN ENCRYPTION METHODS that we
use today will be cracked and be made obsolete. Trust
me on this. It's happening. Dogcryption will be one
of those relegated to the dust.

Will I have a newer version by then? Of Course!

What do you think I'm working on today?

I forgot thanks go to silvercreek for this article;>


PIN-Based Debit - The Next Step For
Internet Payments

Real-time debit payments over the Internet may become reality sooner than expected thanks to the efforts of the ATM network community. Concord has been an active participant in the Advanced Payments Group,
a subcommittee of
E-Commerce Times
estimates that once
PIN-based debit is
available, the number
of shoppers who
make pruchases over
the internet will
increase by 40 percent.



the Network Executives
Council of the Electronic Funds Transfer Association. The group represents a collaboration of networks working to research and promote PIN-based debit
over the Internet.


"We have been very involved with our colleagues in the EFT industry in working
to find secure, reliable methods for debit payments over the Internet," says Debbie Bartoo, Director of Product Development
for Concord FI products. "Once in place, a debit solution will offer a
number of benefits for consumers, merchants and financial institutions."

Benefits of pin-based Internet debit

Debit payments in cyberspace mirror their real-world counterparts in terms of the advantages they offer merchants and issuers' cardholders. Typically, PIN-based debit payments have lower transaction fees than credit cards. Payments are made in real-time directly from a checking account, saving consumers the possible cost of finance charges.

"There are a significant number of consumers who either do not have a credit card or prefer to use debit," Bartoo explains. "The ability to pay with debit over the Internet will give these people the option of shopping online, providing merchants with new marketing opportunities." E-Commerce Times estimates that once PIN-based debit is available, the number of shoppers who make purchases over the Internet will increase by 40 percent.

Evaluating pilot programs

The Advanced Payments Group, while not a regulatory forum, is evaluating three payment scenarios that participating networks are considering for integration into their operating rules. The first applies the physical world standard to the Internet - the customer uses an existing ATM card and PIN to make purchases. This model requires a simple hardware device that plugs into the consumer's keyboard to read and encrypt information from the ATM card.

The next scenario has a similar approval format, and uses a digital signature or e-PIN to authorize the transaction. The third model under consideration is the inclusion of a third party, such as a bill payment service or an Internet portal, to guarantee payment and authenticate the consumer's transaction.




"We are looking at all three options very carefully," Bartoo notes. "Our customers have long-standing confidence in the MAC network brand, so our Internet debit solution must meet a high standard for convenience, security and reliability. Within a short time, we expect debit to be a highly trusted payment approach for Internet purchases."










Copyright © 2000, Concord EFS, Inc. All Rights Reserved

PIN-Based Debit - The Next Step For
Internet Payments

Real-time debit payments over the Internet may become reality sooner than expected thanks to the efforts of the ATM network community. Concord has been an active participant in the Advanced Payments Group,
a subcommittee of
E-Commerce Times
estimates that once
PIN-based debit is
available, the number
of shoppers who
make pruchases over
the internet will
increase by 40 percent.



the Network Executives
Council of the Electronic Funds Transfer Association. The group represents a collaboration of networks working to research and promote PIN-based debit
over the Internet.


"We have been very involved with our colleagues in the EFT industry in working
to find secure, reliable methods for debit payments over the Internet," says Debbie Bartoo, Director of Product Development
for Concord FI products. "Once in place, a debit solution will offer a
number of benefits for consumers, merchants and financial institutions."

Benefits of pin-based Internet debit

Debit payments in cyberspace mirror their real-world counterparts in terms of the advantages they offer merchants and issuers' cardholders. Typically, PIN-based debit payments have lower transaction fees than credit cards. Payments are made in real-time directly from a checking account, saving consumers the possible cost of finance charges.

"There are a significant number of consumers who either do not have a credit card or prefer to use debit," Bartoo explains. "The ability to pay with debit over the Internet will give these people the option of shopping online, providing merchants with new marketing opportunities." E-Commerce Times estimates that once PIN-based debit is available, the number of shoppers who make purchases over the Internet will increase by 40 percent.

Evaluating pilot programs

The Advanced Payments Group, while not a regulatory forum, is evaluating three payment scenarios that participating networks are considering for integration into their operating rules. The first applies the physical world standard to the Internet - the customer uses an existing ATM card and PIN to make purchases. This model requires a simple hardware device that plugs into the consumer's keyboard to read and encrypt information from the ATM card.

The next scenario has a similar approval format, and uses a digital signature or e-PIN to authorize the transaction. The third model under consideration is the inclusion of a third party, such as a bill payment service or an Internet portal, to guarantee payment and authenticate the consumer's transaction.




"We are looking at all three options very carefully," Bartoo notes. "Our customers have long-standing confidence in the MAC network brand, so our Internet debit solution must meet a high standard for convenience, security and reliability. Within a short time, we expect debit to be a highly trusted payment approach for Internet purchases."










Copyright © 2000, Concord EFS, Inc. All Rights Reserved

Thanks Don for the clarification!

By: mccurdydon $$$$
Reply To: 276697 by Cashequity $$$$ Wednesday, 6 Dec 2000 at 7:37 PM EST
Post # of 285575


yes Cash they are one and the same

Thanks Cash!!)))

By: Cashequity $$$$
Reply To: 276692 by misterlmf $$$$ Wednesday, 6 Dec 2000 at 7:22 PM EST
Post # of 277047


misterlmf, according to Tom at the shareholders meeting, isn't Paine Webber/Union Bank of Switzerland the group that is supposedly working to get ECNC onto the NASDAQ?

Cash

Luxemburg??? Let me see...

21 Market Makers
are now trading ECNC. WARR is UBS WARBURG, UNION BANK OF SWITZERLAND. UBS WARBURG just completed the purchase of PAINE WEBBER in Nvember 200. See the link below.

http://www.ubswarburg.com/e/about_ubsw/about_ubsw.shtml

Well what do ya know?????
Chris B the daytrader. "ECNC OVERPRICED" is already taken!!)))


To: scoobypax who wrote (13791)
From: chrsb Friday, Dec 15, 2000 9:07 PM ET
Reply # of 13793


Scooby-
Maybe ask Lord Ernie if he took Tom to the local banks when he visited him in Luxemburg, what a better way to unload shares without anyone knowing, plus tax free. You could sell into the pumps without a sole knowing better, but that would be illegal and wrong so I am sure it isnt true :)

Redbaby...I don't know where the booth is, but according
to Rogel eConnect will be there unless something changed.

By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 279391 by Que_buena_onda $$$ Saturday, 9 Dec 2000 at 11:14 PM EST
Post # of 285030

Unfortunately, you're correct.

I'm a proponent of citizens using encryption to keep
their communications private. However, this is a
big thorn in the Fed's side. Right now, there are
no laws against doing this. However, I'm sure that
if the masses adopt this strategy, the powers to be
will pass a law making it illegal for private citizens
to hide or encrypt their messages.

I'll be at CES (Consumer Electronic Show) in Las
Vegas for a couple of days. I will stop by the
eConnect booth for 1 of the 2 days. If anyone
is interested in my thoughts on privacy, please
see me then.

SmileyJ...

You're welcome. I have never been more confident!!)))))

Dave
ESA Member

New ECNC info from Asia Pacific Micro

Click link there is a picture also.

http://www.asiapacificmicro.com/ecnc.htm

Dear Friends of eConnect,

I have just returned from a very productive trip to Shanghai, China with Tom Hughes, Chairman/CEO of eConnect. The news will be released as soon as their legal counsel approves the Press Release.

The first shipment of eCashpads have already arrived at NDFC and should be sent out shortly to consumers. More are in transit.

All other information can be received by eConnect's Public Relations firm, Sitrick and Co. Inc. 310-788-2850 or their website www.econnectholdings.com for all future updates.

Please keep in mind I am only a manufacturer liason, all rights and ownership of the eCashpad belongs to eConnect and their respective patents.

Sincerely,

Clinton Wong

President

12/12/2000

NEW Q&A from Manny


Question: Manny, what is the update on the commercially ready eCashPads that were sent to NDFC on November 30th?

Answer: The first shipment of commercially ready eCashPads arrived at NDFC on December 2, and will be released to a limited number of consumers once the Bank Eyes Only solution can accept multiple merchant eCashPad orders. The Bank Eyes Only service is in the process of being upgraded from a limited order basis for testing procedures into to a full service, multiple merchant same instant eCashPad order basis. With the SBN.com announcement, we expect to be able to soon offer thousands of Bank Eyes Only web merchants to choose from and the Bank Eyes Only service support is now being upgraded to meet the expected demand.

You aren't gay are ya scooby??? LOL

kkgd & chris b

How you two doing tonight? Great me too!!)))))

You know I decided that I will start referring to you
two as scoobypax & uthabros;>))))) Wow what happened
to you two??? Looks like the old apple didn't fall to
far from FM. It was good knowing both of you at one time,
but it is time to say farewell to both of you snivelers!
This has nothing to do with selling or not selling.
This has to do with acting like you guys are big experts
on eConnect today. I don't think you two no jack about
this company any more. You both are just whining because
you feel like Tom let you down and now that you have
given up hope. You feel the need to keep telling everyone
how smart you are for getting out.

Bottom line is move on. It's not posting of negatives
that brought me to my feelings for you two. It's well
you know! Your whole smart investor bull is more than
old. Neither of you have a clue what this company is
doing any more like in the old days. Do ya??? I personally
think that is what brought on plenty of the problems
in the past was all the whining and constant demanding
of answers from Manny that you guys constantly did.
Any way have a nice life both of ya. OK scooby & utha!!))))

Catch both of ya on the flip side or not;>!!))))


Dave
ESA Member

re: Haven't cracked it yet? - By Rogel

By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 275951 by kmike Tuesday, 5 Dec 2000 at 11:12 PM EST
Post # of 276390


Haven't cracked it yet?

Okay, fair enough. I understand. By all means
"yes" send it to whomever.

We've already sent it to the best - the folks
who crack code as a way of life at Defcon. They
gave it the stamp of approval. Why do you think
I'm not fearful of giving it out? I gave samples
at COMDEX to some of the biggest encryption
companies out there - including folks at
Microsoft and Oracle. NONE of them have come
back with anything. Not even a peep. I don't
expect them to. If the NSA can't do anything
with it, I don't expect these guys to do anything
either.

By the way, just to remind you, the version you
have has been de-fanged, so to speak. The
"aggressor" codes have been removed. In actual
field practice, you'll only get 3 hack attempts,
not the infinite number of times your friends will
have to crack this. In the field, by the time
they're trying for the 4th time, they're already
fighting for their lives. It's really hard to
crack things when your hard drive is dissolving.

As for "documentation"... why are you so fixated
on that? There are LOTS of things out there that
aren't documented. For example - have you ever
wondered what material the SWAT Teams in law
enforcement use for their body armor? Think it's
Kevlar? Think Again! They won't reveal that info.
Why? They don't want the criminal elements to
develop armaments that will penetrate it. I can
name DOZENS of other things people use daily where
so-called proper documentation doesn't exist. Here's
another one - the ISP you're using to transmit and
receive e-mails. I'm sure you think your e-mails
are private, right? Are you sure? Have you found
proper documentation to assure you that you're actually
having private e-mail communication? Most ISP's won't
GIVE the internal structure of their network to
anyone - lest somebody use it for purposes other
than education.

People who know us and use the software have all
the documentation they need. I am not at liberty
to divulge their identity. They can, if they wish
of their own accord, make themselves available to
you or anyone else. It's THEIR CALL, get it?
"I" am not hiding anything. That's why I gave
you a file. That's the only thing within my
power to actively do. The other things you're
looking for is beyond my capability to provide
you as I do not contral the media. Remember,
it's out there - you just have to know where
to look.

re: Some insight from Rogel


By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 274857 by O2BESANE $$$$ Tuesday, 5 Dec 2000 at 8:01 AM EST
Post # of 275504


I'm still here, but I'm actually getting tired (can you believe it?). Suffice it to say that short of major
world catastrophe (i.e. world war, plague, etc.), eConnect
should do well. As you know, this company has weathered all kinds of things, including fraud and theft. These are things that usually kill companies. Surprisingly, eConnect has survived.

I will give a more detailed explanation at a future date, but trust me when I say that when the majority of the eCashPad rollout occurs, it will be BIG news!

re: The Feds Already Do it answered by Rogel


By: Tyrannosaurus $$$$
Reply To: 274884 by mountee $$$$ Tuesday, 5 Dec 2000 at 8:49 AM EST
Post # of 275494


The Feds Already Do it.

Actually no.

There are several gov't sites that are protected
by "active" systems. There's even one that nails
folks in a delayed fashion (up to 1 week after
the attempted hack).

The feds just got fed up with people constantly
making them a target. Now, people think twice
before attempting hacks.

I'm not at liberty to discuss which gov't sites
have active protection. Try one and find out.

Also, the feds now have a program called CARNIVORE,
which can read ANYONE's e-mail that is sent in
clear-text. Now, the only way to truly send private
e-mail is with encryption.

As for the legality of this... to my knowledge,
hacking into a network for the express purpose of
vandalizing or fraud is ILLEGAL and is a FELONY.
There is NO LAW protecting a hacker committing
a FELONY! It's like this - it's MURDER to kill
someone without provocation. It's SELF-DEFENSE to
kill someone if he's trying to take your life.

We're just defending ourselves, that's all. Besides,
the lethality of this software is such that it will
not propogate. You can't "spread" a virus that has
just destroyed your hard drive.