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Read my post again. I said a reason other than medical marijuana. It has not been proven that they are in this "niche market" yet.
I am a strong activist in medical marijuana and agree its a great market to be in but they have not proven that yet. It is all hearsay until something is set in stone.
A few posters here. ICE and Grumpy I believe, but I would have to double check..
"Just trying to say the jury is still out and that both sides need more evidence to win a case."
I agree.
I strongly disagree. Companies have been caught putting out FAKE press releases many many times. If you state a deal is done and it really wasn't then what do you call that? FAKE!!!! How can a PR state a done deal and it be forward looking when they state DONE?
Done means completed not maybe or hopefully. With all of your great DD on companies, I would expect something better than that from you. I know what the statement says under every PR. It says MAY contain CERTAIN forward-looking statements and information. When a company speaks of completed deals then this phrase is not pertaining to that part of the PR. Only the parts of FUTURE statements, which almost every PR has in it along with completed deals.
You are not reading it right. Look deeper.
(PINKSHEETS: HESG) would like to announce that it has completed a licensing agreement with The Healing Center of Montana for the territory of Livingston County, Montana for purposes of operating a medical marijuana collective and distribution center for medical marijuana patients
as pertains to Montana state and Livingston County law.
- So you are saying that if HESG really did NOT COMPLETE the licensing agreement then this PR is NOT fake? I am not saying they didn't but what if they didn't? I call that fake.
Do you have proof of no dilution? Don't think so!
I hope you didn't give them this pick yourself and tell them to put money in it. How would they feel towards you if they lose it all? I have learned to never give family or friends stock picks. Its a bad move for everyone. There are just too many red flags on this company when there are so many other ones with half as many red flags or none at all if its not a pinky.
Can you give me one reason why this is a good pick? Except for the fact that its supposedly in the medical marijuana business because that has not been confirmed by anyone. As of right now, they own a health website and a magazine that makes no revenues. That is the only thing positive that is confirmed. And I'm not sure you can call that a positive!
It is TG's fault for getting Mr. Smith pissed. All he has to do is put out a PR stating share structure and things are still in the works. Why would HESG put out a PR every other day and all of a sudden go silent? I can only come to one conclusion.
I never said he didn't buy any licenses. I have said it looks like a P&D and a scam.
This has hit .0001! Everyday this week and last week.
It is not confirmed he even bought the license. I said it seems that the PRs were fake, and I never said that no money was spent. I merely stated an opinion why he would have bought the license. Reread the post. You have to spend money to go public and everyone knows that.
I am pretty sure that the poster who stated he had bought a license said he could not sell it.
I never stated I got any calls from the SEC or HESG was getting investigated. I am not in control of posts getting deleted. Mine have been getting deleted also.
All of my posts are my opinion based on facts and I just give a reasonable explanation for certain actions. Am I not aloud to give my opinions now? All of you are stating OTCBB uplisting and shooting people pipe dreams every day. I just give reason why they will probably never happen. As far as I am concerned, every action that has happened was part of a scam. Only time will tell.
"So if this is just a P&D why did TG spend $10K on a non-refundable license deal. Why not keep the money and run off as some have suggested."
$10K is nothing when you are making millions off of the hype it brings. He has to look like some kind of business is going on and what better way to do it. Why spend the $100K plus to go public? It costs money to scam money!!!!
Tell you why? Why people are out to damage a small company? The company damaged itself, hints the no SS released when promised, raising of the A/S while stating they retired 2 billion with no filing, not responding to investors, no information in months, Tom quitting, the Caveat Emptor on pinksheets, and the list goes on! Almost every negative poster here posts facts and every positive poster posts assumptions.
Quit assuming and read the facts brought to your attention. I get tired of repeating myself and hearing ridiculously stupid responses as to why this is a great company.
If anything actually comes to fruition with this company, I will be the first to admit I was wrong. You can rub my nose in it all you want and I will take it. You will probably disappear when the stock goes to no bid then the R/S hits.
Have any of you actually grown marijuana or owned a business. Both are very tough to accomplish the right way. This company has no experience in the industry, no money to keep it going for the first couple of years, no experience in Montana. For them to have an operation that profits, it will take loads of cash for the equipment, knowledge, building, etc. I have seen grow operations where the ventilation system alone cost $50,000. They had to rent a costly crane to put the system on the roof and that's just the intake system. You have numerous $1000+ lights, eco-friendly exhaust systems, Hydroponic systems, fertilizers, pumps, seeds or seedlings that are very very pricey, soilless mediums to hold the plants up and distribute fertilizer when it needs it, and the list goes on.
If they were accomplishing any of these then I am sure we would have had a press release stating something of the matter. Maybe something like, "we have purchased or leased a building", or "we have a great team together to get the job done". We would have heard something by now.
Not a word from the company in a while.
"Tell me you didn't know the 1.5B shares were going to get retired, the extra 500 Million was just the kicker. You didn't know the share structure was going to get increased raise some market capital? Who knows until the share structure is released. If retiring the shares was to manipulate us, why did it piss theMM off? Who side did you say you were on?"
How on earth do you KNOW it pissed the MMs off. You have no clue! Are you a MM? So explain why I have received emails from Frank stating Tom has quit over two months ago. Does Mike Smith know this when you talked to him?
Why else would a company state they retired 2 billion shares while raising the A/S to 20 billion? TO MANIPULATE US!!! I have a feeling if Tom really is in charge and he is really sending people to Montana and he needs capital to start it, then he would still be putting out press releases stating things like this to raise(or keep) the PPS at higher levels.
Unreal. Like we can spot them exactly when they start. You figure it out over time, which is what happened. You sure are wasting a lot of time digging through my past posts. Are people not aloud to change the opinion of a company over time? The more I found out, the more my mind changed.
I believe in the future of Medical marijuana, but HESG does not seem to be in that future. Again, why retire 2 billion shares when you are raising the A/S to 20 billion? It makes no sense to an "investor's" point of view. There are about 5 "investors" that believe in the future of this company with you. The other 15 or so have negative thoughts on this board.
The post you copied and pasted was when I believed in this company. If it wasn't a pump and dump and a REAL company then this would have happened along time ago. It would be trading at a higher level instead of on the verge of no bid.
Ofcourse you do not mention that while they supposedly retired 2 billion shares, they also raised A/S to 20 billion. That's a fact and does not make any sense except to pump the PPS higher while giving them more shares to sell. You seem to always leave that part out and never have an answer as to why they did it. That's a BIG negative for HESG. The only logical answer is to pump the PPS higher while unloading as many as they can. I doubt they ever even retired those shares. Where is the filing for it?
neophyte184, I respect your posts very much because you take the time to actually analyze every situation brought up. I have been a little vulgar in the past to people and I apologize to them for that but the MMJ has a soft spot for me. I have been a Medical Marijuana activist for a long time and was really hoping the best for this company. I have to leave for most of the day so when I return home I will post my opinions regarding your response to my post from last night. I only post so much because I feel I have been scammed and if it is a scam then they are hurting the industry that I truly respect. I do not do it for newbies or anyone else. The main thing that is alarming is all the insider emails everyone has received and most importantly the PR about retiring 2 billion shares while raising the A/S to 20 billion. That one makes no sense and is the biggest red flag for this company. Shortly after that PR, Pinksheets.com put the Skull and Crossbones up.
Have a great day and I will post an in depth response tonight when I have time. I truly hope that no one is getting gassed and that I am wrong but it does not look good so far. Take care.
I have thought the same thing about the email address. It just seems way to fishy to be coming from a publicly traded company. Since it is a Yahoo address, I figured it was made up from the beginning. I also sent the same email to the igohealthy website address and only got responses from the Yahoo address in Gaffney's name. It doesn't add up.
Good luck on them explaining things. After numerous emails sent everyday frank responded with 1 sentence replies and only answered the question about the fake website. He avoided all of my questions and said Tom resigned and he is the new interim(he spelled it intrim) CEO. He also spelled his last name wrong. When I replied stating that it was illegal to give me that info without the public knowing first, he said it's not illegal because they are a non reporting company, so that shows you how smart he is. Keep sending those emails everyday until they can't take it anymore. Hopefully you will get a better response.
You should care since you have money in this. You are right, it's real simple and I look at the shares traded everyday.... You make it more complicated and more unreal than it really is. Is this your first go around with a Pinksheet stock? I have seen this pattern so many times before. PUMP and DUMP for sure. Its over! Well, almost, they have a few more shares to sell to you.
It hasn't held anything! .0001 is holding strong to you? What makes you so special for HESG to let you in on a rumor? I'm sure the company knows that you have no credibility with Ihub anyway, that's if you sign your emails with your Ihub alias. They haven't even put out a single press release in months and have no revenue and you are saying uplisting to OTCBB. Look at Pinksheets and that great big SKULL AND CROSSBONES. They said they were looking to uplist in one of their first PRs and that was when they were Pinksheets limited. Now they are Skull and Crossbones. They have never put out financials. They increased the A/S to 20 billion while saying they retired 2 billion shares. How does that not raise red flags for you. They said current SS at the end of January and have not PRed since. How does that not raise red flags for you. They barely ever answer emails and supposedly Tom quit because he couldn't handle it and now the IR guy is CEO and his grammar in emails is horrible. That doesn't raise red flags for you. The price has dropped to .0001 and that does not raise red flags for you. When ST and Ameritrade put out restrictions the company was trying to get people to change brokers so they could sell more shares to you knowing what was about to happen.
Everything you say is just speculation. ALWAYS! I have a gut feeling that you were the culprit for the fake website. You have some fetish with Willie Nelson and you are the only one that has ever posted about him. I am not sure how you sleep at night.
How do you know that MMs are having trouble finding shares? Any proof? We already know that the company has sold billions of shares so how do you figure they are having trouble finding them?
What? Most of that made no sense. I know how to read L2 and the streamer. The company sells all of those shares. Do you think that the only people that trade stocks are on Ihub. There are many people who do not even know what ihub is and they see a company in the MMJ business and buy it without really doing any DD. Then they find out what they got there self into and sell them right back on the market for the loss of commision and transaction and it repeats itself.
If there is buy vs. sell manipulation then why can't there be sell vs. buy manipulation. It goes both ways. They are keeping you interested. They want you to buy more! And I bet you do.
You always say that buys are shown as sells right. Well why can't sells be shown as buys. MMs are here to keep liquidity in an open market and the question is who is selling. For every buyer there is a seller and vice versa. If you think people would not buy at a high price and sell for such a big loss then where are all of these shares coming from? I say its the company selling daily and the MMs are just helping it look good to keep the money flowing into their pockets and keep "investors" interested. The more shares the company sells the more money the MMs make. They are purposely keeping it above the no bid at the moment because the company has so many shares to sell. Once the O/S is close to maxed out you will see the no bid and a few months later you will see the R/S. If you think it can't get any lower, then just wait until the R/S and watch your "investment" turn into nothing. Remember that keeping it at .0002 is double what they would get at .0001.
I bet you that Frank or Tom wanted neophyte184 to post that email during the day to lure more people in. They are getting down to the wire and are trying to get as much money as possible before they totally jump ship and lose all "investor's" interest. They know the jig is up and want just a little more. Greed is what you call it. They need to max that 20 billion out before they are done. Its like having a product on a shelf that eventually loses value and they need to get it out the door fast for maximum profit.
Everyone is pissed off they got scammed, hints the negativity. A lot of people had faith in this company and now they are starting to realize they were robbed. The CEO is sailing away in his new yacht. I could care less about newbies, I post my opinions and facts just hoping the company reads them or the SEC.
This CEO should be shot! This is ridiculous. $100.00 turned into $13.00 at this point.
Good luck with your investment.(hesg) I hope for the best for you! (Sincereness)
Live and let live!
I have given my reason for being here numerous times and I will not say it again. You can look at my posting history to find it. I tell you what, I will make a deal with you. I will leave your little POS alone for now (because I can't stand it anymore) and let you try and fool people into buying it, but when it goes to no bid or does an R/S then I will be back to rub all of your idiot's noses in it. So, I will see you sometime next month or sooner. Deal?
One measley buy at .0003 after huge sells at .0002 and you people think its turning around. What a bunch of smart people we have here.
How on earth do you figure this POS is turning around? Looks the same to me! A POS! You really think some company in Kingwood Texas is the answer. I live 30 min. from this new company that is starting to have the same PRs as HESG and I can tell you right now that it will be the same BS.
Anybody in the MMJ business are in these states.
I have to say sometime in March this POS will go to no bid if not sooner. Maybe before Friday of this week.
I would go a little further and say "the little train that broke down"
LMAO! The show has been ENDING for over 3 months!
Yea a buy back with what funds. The millions they have made from selling to you? Don't think so!
I definatly don't plan on buying more! I state facts as to why this stock is in the crapper while idiots try to say its better than sliced bread. I am tired of seeing scams and people that buy into them are just funding the scammers. Do some DD and you will stay far away from this one.
Good luck with your "investment" because I can't take anymore of this BS. Its like talking to a second grader. They have no clue!!!
Thats what I thought....More BS! Its in way worse shape than 90 days ago. Some people still had hope 90 days ago and now its just you and a few others that have no clue how to trade stocks. You really need to quit lying to yourself before you lose everything. HESG was nothing more than a pump and dump and you got dumped on and it seems you still are. The ones in charge are making a killing off of you man. Wake up! This is FACT and not jmo!!!!
I know all of the facts. I am asking you why this stock is strong right now because it is obvious that it is not, but you rant the same BS everyday and never back it up. The info at hand says this stock is a scam and is going to no bid. So, once again, why do you think this is strong? My guess is you don't and are just trying to get a little run out of it to dump on some pour person that does not know any better. The fact of the matter is, that will never happen and you will be stuck with all of those shares you say you keep buying.
I will repeat the facts one more time for you....
1) NO revenues
2) 20 billion A/S raised around the same time Tom said 2 billion shares retired.
3) Lies consistantly in PRs
4) Pinksheets has the skull and crossbone for HESG
5) Per email from company, Tom has quit (and imo ran off with the cash stash)
6) As of right now, they are not in the MMJ business
7) They DO NOT answer emails or the phone
8) They DO NOT have an office
9) About to go to NO bid
Now, how on earth do you see that as being strong????
I can post where I want on any stock I feel like. He defends it with BS. Not a single fact comes from him. I just want to know why he thinks its so strong. Thats all! He posts the same BS everyday with nothing to back it up.