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Never said that I trust everything the Glimmer Twins say either. My decisions are based on my own Due Diligence not what is said by strangers in a chat room. Remember, this is the wild west of pinkland where the truth lands somewhere between the basher's and pumper's.
Tree, not saying that there isn't limited value in what people print in the chat room. However, still don't believe that people should base any decisions in what they read from total strangers. It's SELECTIVE DUE DILIGENCE in 99% of the cases.
All this banter back and forth about the Neuro-sync. Just remember anything you read in a chat room is strictly SELECTIVE DUE DILIGENCE. Nobody and I mean nobody is looking out for anybody but themselves. Nobody is doing this to help other share holders from making or losing money.If you believe that they are you should not be in the stock market.
Isn't it interesting how testy the critics get when MSI takes any step forward. Remember they are there to help save you from losing money out of the goodness of their heart.I'm sure when the Neuro-sync finally arrives they will continue to bash the device. If it works well they will say it won't change mankind for the grand price of $129.00. None of us know if it will be successful in the long run but they will slowly crawl back in their holes if it is. IMO
He did respond to me last week by e-mail.
Just one word of advice. Don't rely on advice from a chat room to make investment decisions.Due your own Due Diligence. The company may or may not make it but everyone that posts here has their own agenda.And it's not to help you out.
I believe that the Neurosync has been manufactured in Taipei City, Taiwan by Foxconn. The fire in Tianjin should not be a factor.
I was wondering about that myself. But it looks like the manufacture is Foxconn located in Taipei City, Taiwan.
I heard from him yesterday after he sent out the corporate PR. He just confirmed what was said. I guess that indicates that he is still involved.
Must admit I had the same thought. I do hope that if by any chance the Neurosync is successful that they shift future production out of China.
Casey just posted an update from the company..Not sure anyone will believe it but they are explaining the delay and future direction.If half of what they say is true than this can make a rebound but the Glimmer Twins have a ways to go.
Maybe it is or maybe it isn't. But you can make money flipping this and on that count you are correct.
I'm not so sure about that. Several of the biggest basher's have stated openly that they have never owned a share but are simply protecting the interest of shareholders.If you believe that I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.
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I'm glad you are such a strong supporter of MSI and want to invest all your money into their stock. Myself, the Wild West of Pinkland is for gambling with the house's money.I would rather keep the majority of my investments in the major index's. But good luck with all that.
Tree, I agree that Emotiv is a real company. However, the question is why haven't one of the big boys bought them for pocket change. I was questioning whether BCI devices area the wave of the future or simply a toy without universal appeal. If Emotiv has sales of 100 million which I highly doubt they could be acquired for twenty times earnings or around 2 Billion.However, the question is BCI a twenty billion industry or a bust except for medical usage.I did just see some new photos of the Insight headset sent to their partner members and that revenue stream is going to be very slow.It still looks like it a Jr Star Trek device and will not make it with the wearable market. Neurosync looks far better but who knows if the Glimmer Twins ever get it to market.
Potential might be better than stinks. I wonder in both cases if BCI is the wave of the future or just an interesting concept with limited universal appeal.
SELECTIVE DUE DILIGENCE.You have no way to determine if Emotiv is making any profit at all. As people have said about MSI, if they were real someone would have bought them out. Why has nobody bought out Emotiv yet. I'm sure Apple could buy them out for pocket change. Could it be that they are bleeding money like You Tube! I also stated that until they actually deliver the Neurosync I won't believe anything MSI puts in print either.
Two weeks to go for what! I personally don't believe anything that they put out in print.I'm only betting on the concept.If and when the Neurosync arrives that's when the clock will start.
You can't prove profit without seeing the books. Business 101! As for comparing companies they do happen to be competitors and if MSI does ever get the Neurosync to market than it will matter a lot.
My original message related to the fact that even Emotiv has missed numerous deadlines in getting the Insight to market.The point being that even established companies can miss their target date. And yes Emotiv has a real product though limited in interest to people that go to Star Trek conventions.As for making a profit you cannot determine this without seeing the books. As we have all learned with MSI and other OTC companies published statements don't count for anything especially from the Glimmer twins.I also wouldn't be surprised to see an update saying the typhoon in China has pushed back shipments.
In that Emotiv is not a publicly traded company not sure how you were able to obtain their financial records.Please provide the link so we can all look at the books.
Not defending the Glimmer Twins, but 92% of start companies fail. If they do finally ship out the Neurosync this month and it works they will have accomplished something most start ups never achieve. Actually taking a concept to a finished product. As it relates to 8-12 weeks the same thing can be said about the Emotiv Insight that is almost a year behind schedule.And Emotiv is considered the leader in the BCI industry.
You may be correct about new buyers, but why has the stock stayed in such a tight range if it's all a farce. There are over 2.3 Billion shares outstanding and the stock should be in trips if this is a total sham.Based on your analogy there should be total collapse of the share price.However, that has not happened. So there must be a thousand fools that believe that the device will make it to market or a number of people in the IHUB chat room that don't. Time will tell who is correct.
I agree that the rollout has been totally mismanaged by the Glimmer Twins. But if MSI is a total train wreck why are people still buying the stock and why hasn't the share price dropped back to trips? I believe that there is still money to be made here if they eventually get the Neurosync to market.IMO
You missed an additional choice. (E) When the Emotiv Insight also arrives. The leader Manufacture of BCI devices Emotiv has been pushing back delivery since last year. However, MSI mentioned the delay in the PR and the message has been on the website since Tuesday.
I'm not sure it would show up until the Neurosync is physically available from the company. I would suspect that their system needs to match any product shipments with actual manufacturing inventory.In that they are again late in meeting projections it won't happen till they receive the Neurosyncs in house next month. However, in the end if the product works it's got a chance to be successful. That's the only real measure of future success.
Emotiv is a private company!
The same reason that the Emotiv Insight is five months behind schedule.Not sure if Emotiv is having the Insight built in China but this doesn't surprise me at all. My old company had total nightmares trying to pin down finalized manufacturing dates with China.Also the back up at west coast shipping terminals probably isn't helping.My problem is that the Glimmer Twins need to stop forecasting arrival dates and wait till the product arrives in California. I might airmail the first hundred once completed to get this started however.
The same reason that the Emotiv Insight is five months behind schedule.Not sure if Emotiv is having the Insight built in China but this doesn't surprise me at all. My old company had total nightmares trying to pin down finalized manufacturing dates with China.Also the back up at west coast shipping terminals probably isn't helping.My problem is that the Glimmer Twins need to stop forecasting arrival dates and wait till the product arrives in California. I might airmail the first hundred once completed to get this started however.
Looks like everything is pushed back two weeks. When you outsource to China dates are nothing but a crap shot. That's speaking from experience.Have fun bashers, but that's the story. The Glimmer Twins have never brought a product to market so they need to keep their mouths shut until they have the product in the building.
SELECTIVE DUE DILIGENCE! Would those frustrated users also include the Emotiv Epoc customers and the Neurosky customers.You know that frustrating Neurosky BCI one sensor device that is helping handicapped people in England turn on and off electrical switches.Nobody knows if MSI makes it or not but BCI will play a major role in the future.
Tree, you know I respect your opinions but the test in England that was posted last month showed a paralyzed person turning on and off a light switch using the Neurosky One Sensor head set. In that the devices are similar except for Neurosync looking much better and hopefully having a better receptor path through the ear canal. Also if you remember the MSNBC panel discussion of the Emotiv Epoc from last year they all liked the concept but agreed that the average millennial would never wear something that made them look stupid or something from Star Trek.Thus the reason to promote the worlds smallest BCI device. Toy or not if it works as well as the competition and is a wearable the interest will far expand the gamer's that have been the basic source of customers.
Do you possibly think that's because it hasn't been released yet! LOL
Do you really think Amazon would stock your used phone. Selling and stocking in their centers are two different things.
If a product had to work great or people wouldn't buy it, the auto industry would be in trouble. People buy on impulse and how it makes them feel. Especially the Millennials.
I guess you missed the one that said they would ship by the end of the month. Unless I'm looking at the wrong month they still have a week.Do you really think that Amazon would even consider stocking the Neurosync without seeing a working model? Hell Sams and Walmart require a thorough background check just to set up a meeting.
What where you expecting for $129.00? This is the infancy stage of BCI devices.The target market is wearable's for the millennials not rocket science.There are several devices that make you look like something from Star Trek or Star Wars.There are also several medical devices that are activated with a chip implanted in the brain for handicapped people that cost in the thousands. This is simply a better looking BCI device than what is on the market today.
Just what Due Diligence would that be? Is that the DD that said that the Neurosync would never make it to market because the Glimmer Twins had a checkered past.All their DD has nothing to do with whether this makes it to market and is successful.A working device is the only basis for success or failure.
Do you still feel bad for the purchaser? You do understand that the object is to buy low and sell high! LOL
The confusion may be that I believe that MSI is or was a Nevada Incorporated company. And as you know the Vegas books are not allowed to take wagers on companies incorporated in state.That's why I questioned which bookmaker took the wager. That law has been on the books for some time.