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Tax, recognize me that someone should be f crazy for buying 13 million shares that another one is selling.
And those are too many shares for buying just as a lottery ticket, aren´t them?
Someone is buying this like crazy today at this level. Why? Did they promise him $10/share + TCHH shares + Palm Beach home + Audi A8 for him and his wife + a trip to the moon? LOLOL.
I think PAVC shares are going to be like having a gold mine.
GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY. WE ARE GOING TO BE RICH.
I think that there is someone here in this board that love candles. How are your candles, sir? LOL. Are they predicting something interesting? ... LOLOLOL.
Get ready your a.ss They are coming.
Think in a positive way: when we reach $0,0001, then the only way to go is up, or do we can get negative value? I hope no.
Hahaha... I think you are being really very optimist.eom.
Yes...Mid-August is from 1 to 31, more or less... But I really don´t know if they mean 2008 or any other year. Could anyone ask them, please? TIA.
Hey you guys... let´s do a survey ourself, ok? The question is:
Which date will be the next after mid August?
I say: mid November.
And you?
Hahaha... Mid August!! I´m excited!! eom.
Argo, your story is quite nice, if it were true.
How do you know that they have reach that limite? Have they been trying it? How do you know it?
You are supposing a lot of things, but you really don´t know anything about it. Just "probably", "suppose" and "believe".
And that is how I take it.
Another thing: What do you think about this foolish PRs? Why do they do it? If they think that the Dutch Auction is correct, why do they just do it without so much words and wasting time?
Of course, I don´t sell my shares yet. Just waiting.
Why are they gonna pay $ 0,04 if they can buy at $ 0,004?
Do you know why TCHH management is not buying shares now? Quite simple: Because tomorrow PPS will be cheaper, and the day after tomorrow, cheaper than tomorrow.
Why are they gonna buy PAVC at 0,004 today if they can buy them at 0,000000004 next week? They are incompetent but not silly.
JMHO.
At least we know that this is not going to go below $ 0,0001. That is the only thing sure.
OK... Let´s think that I´m subnormal or idiot, and then: can someone explain me what I can do now? How does this dutch auction start? When? What is this PR´s targets?
I can see that they are informing us about what they are thinking to do, so Why do they do it? Are they waiting our approval before make it oficial? What kind of management are they? A Bull-shit or a Chicken-shit management?
TIA.
a lesson? a traffic accident would be right for me.
PAVC-TCHH, What a cave of scoundrels, pirates and soab. Someone should give them a lesson.
I can see 2009 and we will be still waiting. How many times are they going to change the merger conditions??
News out II: ...and to extend the closing date.
News out: Dutch Auction.
Ok... you are right. Debate is finished for me. You can go on living in your pink world.
THE END.
LOL... Who are you?
Hahahaha... American language? What is that? Ah... I can explain you: your language is not that, it´s English language. There is NOT an American language. There are just some american words mixed in your idiom: English.
By the way: I would like to see if you can speak, read, write and understand in Spanish language as I do it in English.
Before you go on misinforming other people, I can say you that Spanish idiom, is the second language spoken by number of countries in our world. The first is the English, which you adopted from Great Britain people, many years ago, of course. I encourage you to study it. It´s very interesting to speak other languages too.
I don´t know why people get offended with me here. Do I have say something wrong or false? I can say you sorry if I´m wrong... but tell me what, please, if you don´t mind.
Sorry Dallas. But people here don´t stop saying silly things. And I CAN´T stop answering those stupid things. Sorry very much, because I understand that this is not the place to debate these things.
GLTA with PAVC.
mstep... again?? Look:
"There is no "free" medical care...anywhere".
If I (a Spanish man) has to operate a cancer. I go to hospital and a very good doctor will do it with high quality. And I don´t have to pay nothing. Zero. Just my taxes.
I say you more: If an American tourist come to Spain and suffer a traffic accident, he can go to a hospital by ambulance and a doctor will attend him. He will not pay nothing. Zero.
I say you more: If an ilegal immigrant comes here to Spain and she is pregnant. She will give birth to her child in a hospital, with a doctor, and without paying nothing. Zero. After that the child will get our nationality, and she will become into a legal situation.
That is happening in our country, Spain, where I live, and believe me: I know very well what is happening in my country. I´m going to the doctor since I was born. So I know what I´m saying.
So, here, yes, the health services are free. FREE.
Please, don´t contradict me again if you don´t know anything about my country, as I can see.
Please, inform yourself a little better.
"I've mentioned one little fact about Spain and you get offended"
I don´t get offended by an ignorant, I just correct your false information.
Do I have said you any false information about your great country? Say me what and why and I will say you sorry. I don´t mind.
"Just shut up": typical and arrogant american expression. I´m saying you all to stop this eternal debate but you go on saying false things. I need answer you. I don´t expect you to remain silent. I expect you to say the TRUE.
That´s all.
GL
Sorry everybody... I have to answer this boy:
First- Right, Spain give us $3500 to have a baby, but not because the high infant mortality rate (which is simply false). It´s because the low infant natality rate (because we have a low young adults rate to have babies, which is really different than what you are saying). Please inform yourself better. We export good young doctors to other countries.
Second- You can have any medical services, free, free, and free. And in a free market system as we have. We are not communist. All old people from all Europe can to Spain because our good and free medical services.
Third- I´m not going to go on with this debate with you because I look that you are really misinformed. I don´t want to waste my time with you.
GL with PAVC.
Sorry, let´s get back to PAVC.
Argonath always looking so coherent, although he mentioned some legal international practice by EU as some kind of trouble. Don´t mind.
No country is really cleaned, of course, but I think it´s worse what you still are doing with Cuba and his people because a little problem happened 50 years ago (50). I don´t know why you have not invade it yet. Are you afraid about what Rusia or CHINA can do? Why don´t you do it with CHINA or USSR? Aren´t they armied? Aren´t they communist?
I just want to say you it to show you how international community (not politic men) think about american politic. Sometimes is good to hear it.
I would like to know what other people think about Spain.
And one other thing about your last post (25728):
European people is really pleased with the American help in the WWII. But We don´t thanks you. We give thanks to American people from 70 years ago. Because People changes. Countries change. And I must say you that USA HAS CHANGED VERY MUCH SINCE THEM. And that is what everybody thinks here. What a pity. What a really pity. Sincerely. USA is looked as a detestable and arrogant militar and economic monster.
Because your country help ours (not mine, not Spain), it doen´t mean that you can do what you want in all world wide long since then.
I´m not blaming that AMERICA, I´m blaming actual america. Your america. The america that you are doing now. The america that everybody hate in this world.
How the feeling can change in some years!!! You have lose what your father and grandfather won.
OK?
mstep... I didn´t say USA is so bad. It´s great for many things (a lot of things). For example you have the best Army in the world. What a pity, because you don´t know how to use it. But you have a very very good Army with great technology.
The problem is that there isn´t anybody in all your country long enought clever to manage it, so you can invade pour countries (to try to find one person, call him Osama, for example) for nothing, just to generate more hate, and to justify the astronomic budget that it has. Knowing everybody that you must use intelligent tactics to find him.
(Well, that is just an example of the general opinion here in Europe).
You have a lot of great things. But this is not the board to debate them. In other boards we can talk about actual Cuba, about Mexico, about your health services, about rich and pour people in USA, about your contamination or Kyoto, or about what you would like to talk.
But not here, please. This is not the place.
GL.
mstep... I didn´t say Europe is so great. We have some troubles too. But not so heavy than yours. That is a very long debate.
Just to mention you something which is basic for your knowledge: I´m from Spain (please inform yourself about our free social services that we have; do some google). And about the wall that you said I have to say you the next:
- I was talking about actual situation.
- We haven´t got any wall now (You must know that it was just in Germany, and it was built just because USA-your country- and occidental countries wanted to separate from old USSR system after the II WAR: so occidental Germany was administrated by allied contries, and East Germany was administrated by the Soviet as they wanted too).
- Actually USA has built a wall against Mexican people. Much longer, and much more shameful. Oh yes: you forgot about it. Don´t mind.
JMHO and for your knowledge.
In Europe, It´s really hard to find any finantial society which gives a loan to a profits company. How can PAVC-TCHH management try to get one with its finantial situation (just some millions dollars) in a country so punished by subprime´s as USA is???
They can make me wait here for years.... Hahaha... This is going to be really funny.
Sorry Dallas, I have another question for you: What is worse? To be inside a merger with restricted shares but with a date for the end of that restriction (which is really bad for me), or to be in an eternal merger with an indefinite hold as we are now and with a management treating us like idiots in public PRs day by day (which is really really worse for me)?
this should be punishable?... In Europe this companies wouldn´t have existed in a stock exchange market since a very long time ago. We are a bit more civilized. But your American finantial system is so corrupted, your American stock exchange regulators are so clowns, that you are losing all respect that you had in other international serious markets.
I´m here just because this is unbelieveble, and I´m enjoying how incompetence people can burn a company and nobody do nothing (goberment or SEC), and I want to know how this is going to end, just to learn about it.
But don´t worry... This is just the AMERICAN SYSTEM of the AMERICAN DREAM. I understand it: Don´t forget that European people (most of them were criminal and gold finders) was fighting against American indians just a century ago, and had to build a country too much quickly in a very little time (with people so clever). So all of this, what is happening, is logical, overcoat with a President so brilliant that is elected, not once, but twice (G.W. BUSH, how funny is that man for us).
((I don´t know why I´m writing so much today. Sorry, perhaps I needed to let off steam. Sorry everybody)).
GLTA.
PAVC-TCHH Management: Don´t you understand that nobody is interested in your merger except you and some few crazy investors who the most of them are in this board (20-30 investors, and some of them are forced to be here because of the restricted shares)?
PAVC-TCHH Management: Do you have any idea of how to run a company? or even a scam? Do you think that you are cheating someone with this merger? I´m thinking that you don´t know how to finish this scam. You are running so bad this merger-scam that you will have to close the company after that.
Are you proud about what you are managing or doing?
I´m going to tell you what you are going to get with this merger-scam: Someone will get angry and will walk on your heads with his truck in an innocent traffic accident.
What an incompetence!!
And what a shameful american system of scamers!
This will never happen in Europe. We have laws. I mean LAWS. I mean LAWS and JAILS. That´s why you are not here.
Good Luck and... Be careful with traffic accidents.
What I don´t understand very much are those useless PRs. They don´t move the PPS with them (just down as the trend goes since many months ago), and they are not getting new investors with them, as you can see in this board.
Here there are a lot of old restricted shares owners, and just a few new buyers, since this merger started, as you can see reading some posts. I think that real world is not very different than this board.
So I think that those who are going to win or lose with this merger are PAVC and TCHH management (big owners), so could someone tell them to stop those love letters and to give us just one and definitive and sustantial PR about the merger closed.
It is so easy to do things well... Or Do they think that we are &%$"·<*^%?
I´m with you. At least, someone understand this game.
GLTY
If someone wants to know it: I´m still holding my shares-lotto. As I said before, I´m here until they will say something definitive about the merger-scam any day in this century.
I don´t mind if this POS goes to 0,000001$, before the merger-scam closed.
GLTA.
I don´t understand this reaction very much... If they don´t reach the merger (at least 0,1$+TCHH shares) we are going to lose some money, but PAVC and TCHH BOD are going to kill their "golden eggs chicken", if I can call it as well, and nobody will trust in them anymore.
If they don´t reach the merger (at least 0,1$+TCHH shares), then it´s going to be the end for everybody. We will see 0,0001$/sh for some centuries.
So GLTA.
Too many questions and no answers. At least, we have left just 2 weeks for the end of this game. 30th June: Game Over.
... And we will can go to others places and will forget this POS.
Are they gonna wait until 30th June (after market close) to say something important and definitive about the merger? I sure you they will do it so.
...I think they haven´t had enough time to do it (just a year)... LOL.
What a f POS... If they don´t reach the merger as they are promising ($0,1 in cash+TCHH shares), I think this will be the end for both companies (PAVC-TCHH). Every shareholder is gonna run out from here so quickly, that it will be incredible to believe. They will definitely lose for ever the low and pour trust that people still have with them.
You are gonna know how quickly can someone burn TWO companies in a row.
This will be very interesting to see. So let´s see it.
GLTA.
Please, be careful not to buy all PAVC shares.
hearing rumor...??? Where did you heard that rumor? In the disco? Did your usual barman tell you? Did the chicken which crossed the road tell you? your guardian angel? your cousin who works in the Finantial Times?
Oh!!! Yes... I know it. Your are married with a woman, who has a cousin, who is married with someone whose father has a lover. And do you know who is his lover? Edwin Kwong´s wife.
COME OOOOONNNNN.
Yes, I know it was in the 10-k report. But they said the merger will be closed in May (2008), just one (1) month ago. Why would they advance that date if they can´t get it? Isn´t it better to shut up? PATETIC.
I´m starting to think about when it is going to finish this slow way down and to start the free falling. The incompetent PAVC CEO deserves it. PATETIC.
At least, I will learn now much better how to plan a SCAM.
Good luck. We will need it.
Holding my shares until the end.
Am I wrong if I say that the end date for the closing of the merger is 30th May or before, as PAVC said the last time they refered about it?