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Holter, what is done is done. What happened here would have never been changed by " talking to management " Had they cared about the shrhldrs we wouldn't even be discussing this. IMO certain posters here have been used by sivc's pr dept, and I think they would agree ( since their correspondence resulted in them buying more shrs ). Our only hope is that they can eventually fool new investors just like they fooled us. Its a vicious cycle, I just hope it keeps going lol Flippers don't want it, it doesn't MOVE, investors don't want it, YOU CAN'T TRUST MANAGEMENT, longs don't want it, THEY KNOW MANAGEMENT LOL This will take time, a long time, a change in management is what we need. GL
Although I think the answers won't be what we all want to hear, its time to get all this out and behind us. Its painfully obvious why the 150/1 took place, and it wasn't to attract new investors lol Talk about insulting ones intelligence, that was lame. Bickel sure seems to be totally disconnected with investors, or he just doesn't care. Too many of these kinds of co's depend on drawing " new " money in and the h with the longs. Timing and LUCK is crucial when playing these stocks, most of the dd you can throw out the door. Thanks for your effort.
I think if the answers you seek were favorable to srhldrs, the volume would already be there. The fact that hours are spent trying to uncover the " good " news speaks for itself. I pulled my order, the selling might be over but I don't look for any real upturn until some major news is released, one of which is otc reinstatement another would be a change in management. The tough questions still haven't been answered, and probably won't. Some of you say " I don't care that we are on the pinks " thats a foolish statement. OTC reinstatement will double or triple this, just as pinkys crippled it. jmo
" Oh btw buster. Great DD in getting a response from Abaxis. They are actually involved with S3 " I think you're being sarcastic, but I was beginning to wonder as abaxis never mentions s3, sino, or China. I still find that strange. I stand by my statements too, Jim Bickel killed this stock with all the b/s he pulled and thats a fact. It will take some time to bring flippers, traders, investors ect back into this stock, and that timeframe could be greatly reduced should Jimbo retire. I think a retirement party is in order ? btw, my order is in for .01, I think we've actually bottomed, and there's only one way out of this.... PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.
Have another cup and look it up, you obviously need something to do. lol
Don't you know a joke when you see one ? I do.
Its not all Bickels fault, the negative sentiment on this board is responsible for about 60 % of the slide lol I'm still waiting for the otc update, the co doesn't seem to want to address this......that and the r/s accounts for the other 40 %. You reap what you soe lol PLEASE RETIRE MR. BICKEL
One can only imagine where we would be had it not been for the two major setbacks ( I won't mention them by name lol ) I really wish Jim Bickel would retire, that would be the quickest way to give this co a fresh start. Hot dog stir-fry anyone ?
Ameritrades streamer doesn't show the correct bid/ask. Check pinksheets.com to see whats actually going on. Another fringe benifit of being on pinks. ( I think Ameritrade's working on providing level 2 for pinks )
Its been said here and on other boards that, in order to obtain sfda approval in China, one needs a local face. I've often wondered if Sino Uje is considered that in China. SINO UJE, Ltd. is a multinational company founded by Masamichi Tamada of Japan and Chris Bickel of the USA. SINO UJE, Ltd. distributes high technology products to the China market that are designed and produced in the USA, Japan, and Europe. Founded by an American and a Japanese, not exactly the " Chinese " connection that we think......could this be holding things up ? I think so.
From now on I don't believe anything until I personally check it out. Another fact, Abaxis products were shown at the cmef show, I still don't understand why abax didn't pr this but I'm now a believer. Subject: RE: cmef pharm show
Dear Mr./Ms:
Yes, Abaxis products were shown at the China International Medical Equipment Fair. Sino Uje is the Abaxis distributor for China.
Best regards,
Shawlamar Wise
Marketing Manager, Pacific Rim & Govt Affairs
I had to hear it from Abaxis, I was beginning to doubt everything this co has told us. Subject: RE: s3/ china
Dear Mr./Ms.
Please refer to the Abaxis website and select Investor Relations for assistance with buying stock. You may also find the latest Abaxis news by reading the press releases here. I believe S3 Investments & Sino Uje are joint ventures. However, our distribution agreement is with Sino Uje. You may also log on to www.sinouje.com Are you familiar with the requirements for doing business in China? It is quite a cumbersome process.
Best regards,
Shawlamar Wise
Marketing Manager, Pacific Rim & Govt. Affairs
I think you're an honest man, do you feel you were misslead at all in your correspondence with Andrew ? Seems to me these guys can say almost anything, with absolutely no accountability.
I don't understand, you say " I got lucky I guess " what do you mean... and you say I'm a piece of work...lol
I was just wondering BG, was it Andrew you spoke with ? The reason I ask is simple, I have e-mailed several pr reps concerning this, and not one reply as of today. The questions a few posters have recently asked were all answered in a timely fashion, but imo the tough questions weren't asked. The r/s cannot be reversed, the pink sheet fiasco can be and would definitely be viewed as a big POSITIVE. tia
imo investors will never forget this either, the best thing that could happen here is Jim Bickel stepping down. Start over fresh with a new face and who knows ? There is a lot to build on here, we just need a new contractor. When the pr's do come now, they are ignored, the stock actually drops. The message is loud and clear.
Good call scoobey, unfortunately this is what happens when a group of men lose money. I agree that this is not the place to have personal spats but I also don't think every time someone questions where their money went or airs their displeasure about the way this co treats their shrhldrs they are told to stop whining or sell and move on if you don't like it. Its not that easy. For the record I am long, and increased my holdings due to the reinstatement promise. Sound trade if they would have come through, another lesson learned. I will cool it unless my head explodes lol or this stocks rallys. I have a feeling my head goes first. gla
He was trying to tie Chris Bickel into the deal, why I don't know. Seems Chris Bickel is the Senior International Consultant at 1st Bridgehouse. What he was trying to say, I think, was a stretch as he was pulling up old undated pr's. I felt sorry for the guy as his communicating skills are not very good. The big bully straightened him out though.
I read those posts but didn't quite understand what he was getting at. Then he was run off by you know who.
I thought you wanted a r/s ? Make up your mind please.
What do you mean " highway robbery " ? Sounds like you've been robbed or something. I don't understand you at times, flipity- flop ?
I was wondering Oil, who is " they " ? I would call the co and complain, it might work if you spill some tears lol
I think its statements like this, you know when you talk out of the OTHER side of your mouth that hurts the pps. Lets hope he actually did convert his preferreds to commons. " If there is one thing I have learned about this company its that they say one thing and then the result ends up being completely different. Maybe if lawyers become involved they will change their ways " Its okay for pump boy to vent lol but not the commoners lol R/S pal, you wanted you got it.
Gee, I guess complaining to the co DOES work. LOL So what happened when they pr'd the signing ? NOTHING I have an idea, why don't you get a hold of Jim and ask him to just read the m/b every couple of days ? That will save us a lot of time and who knows, we might have headed off the pink sheet fiasco AND the r/s had we let him know we disapprove. lololol Its always OUR fault that this pps has nosedived, you are unbelievably gullible, and thats putting it mildly. The r/s was for Jim, no other reason, and he knew it would kill us. For that there's no forgiving.
I'm saying that I had high hopes for this co too and I did pass the word and some poor people bought on my rec. Now after all this " free sex " the co has dished out, I not very happy and neither are you. The difference is I WILL SAY IT PUBLICLY. Then you start with the name calling and blaming us for the pps ? lololol The r/s was the final straw, if you can't see it you are blind. This personal conflict is over ( against i-hub policy ) gl
Its called " profit taking " try it you'll like it. The robots actually make money.
Oilman57, I will not remove it because its the truth, if the truth hurts then so be it. Anyway you left here remember ?
Talk about non sensical, read this and tell me you're not serious. " Why wouldn't a person want to talk favorably about their investment " lol as for me I, I would rather tell it like it is than lower myself trying to pump a pos like this. I can sleep at night can you ? And this " As for the price decline, that's the curse of an R/S, the price almost always declines " I've been saying that for months ( oilman was all for it ) Bickel knew it to and proceeded to do it anyway. You guys have been screwed so many times I think you're begining to like it lol well you've picked the right stock.
Should your jet lag ever cease and you want to debate what Bickel and the boys have done to us I WILL BE WAITING. As far as pumping this stock on other boards or to family members or ... hey , I got one , we could all go door to door on weekends lol, I wouldn't embarass myself any more than I already have. The 60 / 40 remark.... that statement just verifies my belief that some of you don't know your a$$ from a hole in the ground when it comes to trading stocks. We can debate this topic first, since it started this con game. " As a result of an auditor consent letter that was inadvertently excluded from the recent 10-KSB filing, the company's stock has been de-listed from the OTCBB," stated Jim Bickel, chief executive officer of S3 Investment Company. "As soon as the mistake came to our attention, we began our efforts to file the necessary information and apply for immediate re-instatement to the OTCBB. This effort is ongoing, and we will have all of the required information filed as soon as possible. We thank our shareholders, in advance, for their patience."
Let me tell you something, how heavily one is invested has nothing to do with telling it like it is. I would think someone who pumps this dog on other boards is " heavily " invested but who knows ? More importantly who cares. Your hostility is kept inside where it can harm you lol Let it out, you'll feel better.
The co just took us rectally and we shouldn't whine about the pps ? As far as pumping this on other boards lol I've already tipped a few of my friends on this little diamond in the rough ( before the r/s ) and I am sorry I did. This stock is valued correctly, it trades at what its worth, which will soon be zero.
Nothing seems odd to you, I know I can find one. How about the pps freefalling after the much anticipated second Redwood signing ? How about the r/s NOT attracting new investors ? ( thats my personal favorite ) pps is now .0000833 ( pre split ) boy it it was undervalued before.... this is the buy of a lifetime.
" Saying that you are going to have a booth at a medical conference is not exactly exciting news " lol Then tell me Oil, if it was nothing why did you repost the pr on the 10th, on 3 different boards ? Stay in denial if you want, its normal after being robbed.
You don't find it a little odd that E-CHENG MEDICAL SYSTEMS LDT lists Sino Uje as their warranty contact ? Or that their co profile is almost word for word as that of Sino's ? Or that Sino Uje LTD was not listed on the CMEF list of exibitors ? Or that Abaxis has not made ANY public statements concening their big unveiling at the show ? Lets get real here, that smoke coming out of your ears is the same smoke thats being blown up your a$$. How about the last interview on mn1 ? Anyone hear it ? MN1 is not the place for Jim Bickel to " expose " himself to, and he probably figured that out. I think Sino had better get the job done ( sfda approval ) and soon or Abaxis will find someone who can. Hey did Doc Savage Mob ever report back about the CMEF/ SINO/ ABAXIS exibit ? Seem strange after this great news we have 134 shrs traded today..... you'd think with a " large " country like China, SOMEONE would want to invest here.....
Here's the answer in case you haven't figured it out. * Sino UJE: The China Connection
In November of 2004, S3 Investment Company acquired a 51% controlling Interest in SINO UJE, Ltd., a multinational 3-year old company located in Mainland China that achieved over $1 million in sales in 2004. SINO UJE is a non-stocking distributor of medical and industrial high-tech products to markets throughout China.
SINO UJE, Ltd. is a multinational company founded by Masamichi Tamada of Japan and Chris Bickel of the USA. SINO UJE, Ltd. distributes high technology products to the China market that are designed and produced in the USA, Japan, and Europe.
The company maintains offices in the USA, Japan, and France for direct interface and coordination with our suppliers. The Chinese offices offer sales and service support for the products and services the company offers.
The company acts as a distributor in the Medical Industry and as a manufacturer's agent or representative in our other divisions. We believe in market share over short-term gains, service above all else, high quality products and equipment, and partnerships with our customers and suppliers that are 'win/win'.
We employ a talented combination of Chinese and International personnel that bring together the very best in sales and service knowledge from both the east and the west. Our company owners and our senior management bring over 100 years of experience in the China marketplace to bear.
Harmony is an important principle in Chinese culture and it is at the core of our company's charter - we believe in complete harmony between our company and our customers, our company and our suppliers and our company and the international community we all live in. We place our customers and suppliers first in all aspects of our business and it ensures our long-term success.
Whether you are a Chinese hospital or company that needs the latest technology to improve your products or services or a manufacturer in the USA, Japan, or Europe that needs a responsible growth channel in the China market, SINO UJE, Ltd. is the right place to call. I wonder if this is the reason Sino Uje Ltd was not listed on the cmef exibitors list ?
E-CHENG MEDICAL SYSTEMS LDT http://www.yicheng.com.cn/eng/index.htm What co does this bring to mind ? I think we've entered the " twilight zone " lol Plan, abax might be on the way but by the time its officially released, sivc's pps will be doa. Why is sino listed as the warranty contact for this co ? Its becoming quite clear that common shrhldrs don't have a clue what is going on here, and don't hold your breath waiting for any explanations.
Excuse me for budding in, but did you just actually say that ? You have got to be kidding me. This is the explanation they gave for the r/s " The reverse stock split was undertaken to encourage investor interest and improve the marketability of the company's common stock to a broader range of investors " Anyone who has half a brain knows that an r/s KILLS a stock, and it killed this one. Sooner or later you guys have to face reality, these crooks have screwed us and good. Snap out of it for Gods sake. The abax b/s ? That was nothing but rehashed b/s, the abax line was not yet approved in China, call the co.
lol you know neither is on that list, you also know that list is dated 3/29/07. I would like to see the list of " people who need a life "..... you'd be at the top.
fwiw, just a little friendly advice, you've stated here you hold a pretty big chunk of shares you've accumulated since nov. Be carefull at this point in time and I'll explain why. The first thing that should have been pr'd is sfda approval for the Abaxis products in China. Abaxis would have been all over this as this would be big news for THEIR co and shrhldrs. Well, no such announcement. All we got was rehashed news thats been around for months, WE ALREADY KNEW THEY HAVE THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO DISTRIBUTE ABAX PRODUCTS. Without sfda approval, its actually COSTING them money preparing for the actual roll-out. The question I have been asking for months is WHY can't they get sfda approval ? Abax has been around for years and China's one of the only countries they can't penetrate. Its possible this announcement will come shortly, but its hard to have any confidence in anything this co does. gl
I think there's a good reason the wheels are still spinning. Doesn't it strike you as odd that Abaxis hasn't release a pr yet ? WTF is going on here ? The big news we were waiting for and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... I give up.