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TOTAL DEBT OF $1.1 BILLION, and a MARKET CAP OF UNDER $200 MILLION???
THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE !
UPS CUTS THEIR ANNUAL NGV INVESTMENT BY 10% !!
No wonder the rate of growth in NGV's is slowing.
EVEN UPS IS CUTTING BACK! NOT A GOOD SIGN !!!
UPS CUTS THEIR ANNUAL NGV INVESTMENT BY 10% !!
No wonder the rate of growth in NGV's is slowing.
EVEN UPS IS CUTTING BACK!
But no one on this board owns or drives an FCV, even though they exist and even through they are so great for the Earth.
Why don't you drive one Gregg?
I have, but not with this company.
Have you listened to this CEO? Have you seen the results? Share performance?
I go long in sound companies, and I short poor , over-hyped investments. PLUG has been an outstanding short for me.
Thank you for proving my point, Fuzzy.
The Wright Bros sold out to Glenn Curtiss for pennies... And their original investors got nada...
Of course I am absolutely correct. Look at all of my posts on all of the boards I post on. You may also notice that several that I used to post on are now BANKRUPT or no longer exist.
And you are correct, it will take dozens of years to replace all of the conventional automobiles or even many of them, but PLUG doesn't have dozens of years left of just getting by.
And you are correct in pointing out some of the faults in EV's and other technologies, and I don't disagree. But FC's have their faults as well.
I believe PLUG will be joining my list of high-potential, bankrupt companies in the near future unless there is a house cleaning of management.
And they are all buying or building ELECTRIC, GASOLINE, DIESEL, NATURAL GAS, etc., vehicles as well.
As a matter of fact, I suspect they are buying MORE of the other vehicles than they are FC's because, as someone just said, there is a lack of hydrogen infrastructure.
I don't expect every TSLA shareholder to own a TESLA (any EV will do).
I don't expect every FORD shareholder to own a FORD, but I am sure at least one shareholder does.
I don't expect any PLUG investor to own a fork-lift, but I thought someone out there owned a FC vehicle...
So, NO ONE OWNS AN FC VEHICLE, OR DRIVES A FC VEHICLE ON THIS BOARD, AND YET WE LIKE IT ENOUGH TO INVEST REAL $$$$ IN PLUG.
I'm not seeing a revolution starting if no one is driving an FC, and there is a lack of infrastructure.
IF TRUE BELIEVERS AREN'T BUYING, I don't see the non-believers and skeptics buying either.
But I read on this message board that hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe!!!!
Where do the fork-lifts in your town get their hydrogen?
"... they were never able to fully capitalize on being early to the market. Neither did their investors."
The operative word is FULLY...in both cases, PLUG and the Wright Bros...
And yes the FC business may have a bright future...so did the airplane, but I don't see any of Wilbur or Orville's heirs on any Forbes List.
And I won't be seeing any PLUG investors on a Forbes List due to their investment in PLUG either.
Banger... Toyota, Honda and Hyundai? all have FC vehicles..., Why don't you have one?
DO ANY LONGS OR TRUE BELIEVERS HERE OWN OR DRIVE AN FC VEHICLE?
WHY NOT?
HAS ANYONE EVER FLOWN IN A WRIGHT FLYER???
No..., because although the Wright brothers invented the airplane, they were never able to fully capitalize on being early to the market. Neither did their investors.
GREAT IDEA....LOUSY MANAGEMENT...
I think FCEL investors will share the same fate.
HAS ANYONE EVER FLOWN IN A WRIGHT FLYER???
No..., because although the Wright brothers invented the airplane, they were never able to fully capitalize on being early to the market. Neither did their investors.
GREAT IDEA....LOUSY MANAGEMENT...
I think CLNE investors will share the same fate.
HAS ANYONE EVER FLOWN IN A WRIGHT FLYER???
No..., because although the Wright brothers invented the airplane, they were never able to fully capitalize on being early to the market. Neither did their investors.
GREAT IDEA....LOUSY MANAGEMENT...
I think WPRT investors will share the same fate.
HAS ANYONE EVER FLOWN IN A WRIGHT FLYER???
No..., because although the Wright brothers invented the airplane, they were never able to fully capitalize on being early to the market. Neither did their investors.
GREAT IDEA....LOUSY MANAGEMENT...
I think PLUG investors will share the same fate.
AND SOME NEGATIVE CATALYSTS, TOO !
The initial shipments to China have been cut from 500 units to 100 units...that is a BIG CUT.
I don't know what you are talking about!
I don't think you know what you are talking about either.
Probably both...But the end is not in doubt.
Greed is good.... I already cashed in , but now this is just like driving slow by a car wreck.
Aren't public companies required to disclose material events???
Any offers have to be reported... And no one would bid $14 for this mess.
Banger my mistake... Andy has done a wonderful job and we should keep him as CEO. We also need to increase the compensation for everyone including the board. We need to issue them more shares as well...
I just found a new source for shorting so the company needs to keep doing what it's doing.. Anyone else want to buy some $3 & $5 calls?
EIGHT YEARS...$1.00/ SHARE...
ANDY IS LUCKY HE ISN'T A CEO IN CHINA.
FIRE THE BOARD !!!
FIRE THE ENTIRE LOT !!!
THESE "PROFESSIONALS" HAVE DRIVEN THIS COMPANY INTO THE GROUND!
TIME TO BRING IN SOME REAL MANAGEMENT !!
WHAT WERE WE TOLD WHEN WE MERGED????
OUR TROUBLES WOULD BE OVER???
PLENTY OF CASH !! $30 MILLION IN SAVINGS !!!
$3.00 PER SHARE !!!
IS EVERYBODY HAPPY ???
BP is not interested in retailing CNG.
They bought Redeem as just another upstream gas well, only this well also produces EPA credits as well as methane.
BP really didn't need another gas well, but a well that produces EPA credits...Now that is cool.
The last thing a major oil company wants to see is their logo on the evening news behind an inferno caused by a teenager smoking a cigarette while filling his dad's F-150 with CNG, next to a soccer mom with a minivan full of kids.
Great analysis kray....
Thank you Mom.
I AM SHORT... AND MY MOMMA DON'T RAISE NO FOOL...
What am I doing on this board???
Getting rich(er), by shorting into the rallies.
Sure beats working for a living.
ARE you his mother?
Even my mother wouldn't defend me the way you support Andy..
I don't believe a word he or you say.
Not if all of that POSITIVE was built on hype and lies.... That is why he has no CREDIBILITY. We now know the emperor has no clothes.
NO DEFENSE!!
IN 8 YEARS ANDY HAS TAKEN US TO UNDER A DOLLAR!!
Banger look at the 3 year chart...
Andy needs to go !!!
He can believe and say anything, but no one believes him anymore...This is why we laugh at him.
Listen to him on the calls...Does he sound like a CEO or an IDIOT.
And if he believed what he was saying...He is an IDIOT.
The operative word is And...
There are hundreds of things I would do differently and not just with the advantage of hindsight.
Take this discussion off-line and I will shock you with what Andy has screwed us on.
Based on the share price and his lying he must go...He has no CREDIBILITY as a manager or as a messenger.
And I would hire a CEO who told the truth and had credibility with Wall Street.