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We'll see, I hope they're given a lot more space than the IR guys, who were fired because they didn't do exactly what PA wanted. If you're hired to do a job, surely PA has better things to do than micro-manage down to the last stink'n roll of toilet paper for each newcomer!
What they should have done is allow these guys to do their job, get it finished....[web site]. Then let the shareholders see the results after the site is up and running.
But I guess that only holds true [SURPRISE!!!} for an extra 1,000,000,000 shares in which none of us knew about it until his dirty-deed was done.
We'll see....
Temp
How is this news-worthy guys, we were promised a renewed website months ago, if any of you remember? So repeating this twice, and make it a PR is bogus to the 10'Power!
IMO this is not news worthy. What am I missing?
Temp'
Lets say that I agree, 'let them walk', what message does that send to other investors?
What if I stated here I'm going to sell my 3.8mil at .033 breaking even. If Paul see's this [maybe through cowboy -- pun intended] what might he think?
What I believe is happening is that Paul is paying way to much attention to the defensive side regarding a public company. It doesn't matter who's buying or who's selling, keep the company as trasparent as possible, otherwise where does it stop?
If Paul gets wind I'm selling my millions and Frank is selling his millions, and Dave is selling his millions, where does it stop? The bottom line here in my opinion is that PA is on the defense no matter what's being done or said, and that's not right. What will the guy do next? Will he wait until July-Aug and let the 10K speak for itself including news of today and tomorrow? That's what scares me about this guy, he's way to defensive and way way to unpredictable!
Hey he has a nice smile, good-o-boy affect on folks, but restarting apublic company up within the high-risk area of PINK'O is extemely dangerous the way he's doing it. But then again.... it's the ol FO if you don't like it approach.
If this pup was above .03 I'd be out, PERIOD!!!!!!
Temp'
Unfortunately we've already had the 'pop' as you say regarding the "corp of eng" and N.O. [buildup] as stated in PA's last announcement.
The suprise is gone thanks to PA, so while PA holds back news because 'shareholders are taking advantage of 'news/selling' we suffer even more.
There are a group of sellers getting out, but should that dictate what PA does regarding transparency?
If you [anyone] were CEO of a company and found out that a group of investors were selling; would you hold back news?
Temp'
Once it's found out that Paul has been or is holding back news, this thing will fall back again... on the next run up.
Since we know Paul holds back because he thinks there are those who sell on news i.e. longs -- etc, why would [most hold all their stock] after the next short run up?
Ya see, I'm not afraid of the company producing product and making money, I'm afraid of Paul running this public company as if he's was running a whip-saw night-club [with an iron fist].
My statement needs no explanation, as [some] who post here and lurk know exactly what I'm saying! Things are not right with this company due to PA, so we bleed until a quick pop!
Everyone had a great weekend...
Temp;
Worth more than 2cents {LOL} EOM
bytheway... thanks for the video's, downloaded them last night 260 meg or so, and plan on reviewing each one. Also thanks to all those who visited, yes it seemed like fluff, but we'ver also discovered some great things to boot!
Temp'
It's just like the extra billion someone on Paltalk pointed out a few months ago, I believe the guys handle was dragonlaire or similar. Paul doesn't think we have the means to snoop, dig for valuable information, but somehow we find a way. One day he's going to learn he can't hid one bit of information from us, until then, it's the same old story. I was the first one to call him on the 1-billion additional shares. His reponse was; 'how'd you find that?' in a very stern and somewhat grumpy voice.
So my point is that the more we post about what we know, the better our chances of Paul seeing this. Hi Paul!
Many here still don't get how easy this is to solve, that is "why as you've said, don't this stuff get PR'd?
Paul is a very very very very private man, so we put up with it until OB status.
I know for a fact that Progas has new contracts, and for a fact that one of them worth over $200k came on the heels of signing ProGas onboard.
Question: Which is more damaging to shareholders' holding information -- or us putting information we have found on the board but not yet public?
Ya see this is where Paul Alonzo is going to get into trouble one day, so I hope Ron at sometime in the future gets this through his THICK HEAD!!
SirTemp'
I'm good for nothing? (lol) EOM
Kelly, most of us try and think "logically", as in lets always put the "why when who what" together to link things into perspective. So I try and feed my thoughts into Pauls, understand how he thinks, even ask outside-the-box. But I am baffled as to "why, who and what" these things should be kept secret. There are those here who post "quiet period", that is total BS and double that. Maybe Paul thinks it's not news-worthy? That too is BS. So that when logic fails to answer the call of normalcy, I think about bailing with a decent profit.
I know ProGas has made great gains and also during the event of "acquisition", and that is news-worthy. Quite a percent of the 1-billion goal for 06 [if it's possible] is in fact ProGas.
No doubt Paul was burned in the past by letting others know his business, those who personally work for him. But this isn't personal and fortunately [thanks to the SEC], one day soon Paul will either give this information up, or be sued by shareholders. It's too bad we can't do that now, as I know others would follow behind me.
Yeah, Paul needs council, and plenty of it. Its a good thing he's [hopefully] willing to listen and thus keep his butt out of trouble 'publically'.
Every piece of news from a 'pink sheet' is very very very valuable to shareholders in a public forum!
Who knows the other reasons outside Ron wanting to add flavor to the bottom line [extending OB status], but rest assured, Paul loves it as he would a rack of N..O ribs!
Temp'
I understand he's a tuff guy, been through a lot and who hasn't, my horror stories would reflect some of the same. It takes a while to change gears from a defensive-stance [if it ever happens].
Do I think the company will be successful? Yes. How much? To date, I'm not laying my bets-as-it-were on oil. To many wells are/or/run-dry and are small pumpers. I do however see a push somewhere between .15 and .20 sometime later this year based on fundimentals. Thus I wait patiently before I move to another ship.
Thanks for your thoughts
Temp'
I know for a fact PA is holding back news and for no other reason outside his "personal/private" life in which I guess he's entitled too until we are OB. It only makes sense given the fact he owned/operated night clubs.
If I owned the same entity for years, you'd better bet that anytime someone called, or an employee disagreed, they'd either get the BOOT as has been the case. Or, if you call and don't agree fully, 'tickle my ear' you'll get a nasty note stuck to your perverbal face.
But that's just Paul Alonzo, so what! We'll make money thanks to our soon to be announced "boardmember" Ron the BURN man!
sTempy
No, we're-back-again EOM
Rocks, gravel, sand, and maybe muddy bottom fishies, and whatever.... seems to be leaving, but no news?
It's not pecular, it's PA at his best!
GO PBLS!!
who said anything about NOT cleaning up the books? PBLS neg. a settlement mostly stock instead of cash. I agree, it's a good thing, but the legal side of it isn't written off as DEBT.
Temp'
As your aware the settled notes have/had nothing to do with debt. This was brought forward regarding the old shell and past investors. I remember Ron saying this was a non-issue and squabbled with Paul [and Paul's attorney's related the same to Paul], so I don't believe this was the feature behind the rise in pps at that time. What was? IMO, as in any stock, it was a number of issues combined i.e. Nevada Oil Lease, Clarification of ProGas, notes and other unknown 'fizzle' speculations.
Regards,
SirTemp'
MWC, I don't have any quams with anyone here and especially you. I look at the big picture, and how Paul's handling his business affairs regarding shareholders and his employees. He is not a people person if there are differences in business styles. He doesn't tolerate disobedience, period... and I don't like that.
Posts here are good for the most part, but like mine and yours, there are those who perfer skip on by.
Personally I've spent to much time disecting management, fell in love with the company [what looked like great fundiments short and long term] way before I fell in like with what should have been first and always is [management]. But Ron caught my eye from the get-go and feel strongly Ron will make us all money.
Thanks for your posts...
Temp'
Chilar, your entirely right, when's the last time Mike M called the company on a regular bases outside his busy schedule of "spamming us" on other stock's he's promoting? According to Ron per a call a few weeks ago, nada on a regular bases. But of course Mike's an employee as Ron stated, only this one is kissing-bootie regarding Paul... otherwise he's be gone!
Fact
Temp'
PBLS has dirt-sand-gravel.. pick one EOM
Married... Paul has 20 things he's working on Ron as 16, and so on.... dah dah dah. For those who call Mike M and are told expecc\t news next week, I'm suprised he's telling this. Mike M is so two-faced [since someone mentioned it today], I should call Ron/Paul and tell them when Mike told a shareholder.
But I'm not like that as some here are [cowboy? hehehe]
Investors short trade on "news coming", and that isn't right. So when Mike M called Paul/Ron and gave them the riot-act on giving out "general info", the same should happen to Mike.
I tell myself everyday that these guys ron/paul are extrememly new at this, infants in a public company, so mistakes are made on a daily bases. That doesn't worry me, what does is that when someone posts "news coming", "I've heard".... and claim so-and-so stated it.... there are many lose cannons here!
I've had Ron tell/explain all kinds of stuff, but if one realizes he's a newby... it's all taken with a grain-of-salt.
The real news here is positive-earnings sometime in the fourth-quarter helped a little by acquisitions and contracts. Don't know how many shares I'll own then.
Temp'
The quote "filing" itself will not move this stock, it's what we find, and since there has been little in the way of new money, outside ProGas new contracts, and the already known oil now pumping; what else is there?
We could have 1 billion in assets, but unless Paul can show/explain/ir his vision on how this company sizzles? We won't ever move past .15cents.
A government contract will move this stock above .10cents, thus the exit strategy for many of us longs. We won't know it, but one can bet that everyone will be taking a large profit. I only own 3.6mil, so 10cents? That increases my lot 200% from 120k to 360k. Invest in JOYG at 33bucks last year, then tell those selling at 57bucks to hold? I don't think so!
By the time this gets to .10cents most of us here will have held 9 months or better.
Now if I had a few 100k shares like some here, then that's a different matter.
Temp'
Price reflects [current and risky] value EOM
The company website is on the back burner for whatever reason. The reason I believe is trival in that too much info would need to be provided... [per last statement].
So there are many good questions in which you have raised, I just happened to comment on this one in particular.
As someone suggested too, once the pit is empty, and the soil is gone in the area, this would suffice for a great landfill, thus one curious reason regarding a "why and what if" suggesting PBLS buy the land.
Best,
Temp'
4 weeks into approval EOM
Contracts are permissable EOM
I do not for one second believe that Ron would not have taken a board position if asked within a reasonable time frame. He would in fact have taken a board position [EOM]
When I spoke with Paul about "positions regarding board status", I mentioned the fact that most boards are diverse; meaning that quite possibly someone from the Oil industry would be a great pick. Paul's comments were [and not verbatim] he's not thinking this way.
So, what are we to think given all the facts which have presented itself regarding Pauls demeanor overall?
Ron owns 20-some million shares; Paul owns 50-some million. Do you think that Paul would for one second has someone on the board, which if in the future, and with other shareholders, have the ability to out gun him? I think not!
I have yet to ask anything of Ron, I mean anything to have him blow up or say something off color. Does that suggest someone of management caliber? Absolutely! Is that Paul's philosophy? Hasn’t been from the get go!
Ron is a great guy from every possible perspective, and shouldn’t that also be the case for Paul Alonzo? I would be willing to bet that since this is a pink-sheet, those who have left, lost faith in Paul and not in the company.
Most of my comments have been centered on the inability of Paul Alonzo to run a public company from the ground up. It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with his experience, training or education. Do you understand that?
I doubt if Paul does, because once I got off the phone with Paul during our fiasco regarding “paranoia of competition finding out”, he told Ron no doubt some horrible things. Why do I say that? Because of the way Ron changed his conversational nature with me regarding what Paul said. And you can take it to the bank that I said nothing mean spirited, bad language or anything off color during that conversation.
So, if we get info regarding a prolonged 10k form, and nothing upfront to keep the PPS at acceptable level, we all know who to blame. It burns me that we have product leaving the station heading to the levee’s, but Paul’s paranoia for whatever reason, doesn’t see fit to give all the information ‘transparency’ for the betterment of shareholders.
I commend you for taking your case to Paul, as a rebuttal to Paul is not needed. Trust me, I’m not mad at the guy one bit, but he is not fit to run a PUBLIC ENTITY.
We are a fly in his ointment!
Regards,
Stephen
ps... you or others may ask; why not take this to Paul personally? I'm sure many here already the answer... so be it!
Levee's? Great EOM
sorry I meant cowboy EOM
Was it a personal attack to his character? No, his way of doing business. Why else would someone not vote in Ron Blackburn by now into the status of boardmember? Figure that one out!
If one can't get past the simplicity of 'paul's fear' through-which others may have a say, this IMO is a biggie!.
Here's something that will really frost-your-$alls.
We were chatting about Wyoming one day on paltalk, trying to figure out where in WY our plot was located. I called Paul to chat and asked about the area. His statement was "why would you ask that, are you going to tell the competition?". His is after he knows I'm a 3.6mil shareholder and we have talked before.
Now, does that not tell you that this guy is paraniod about his own shadow? I think so and in a big way!
We need someone who see's transparency as a blessing, and not something of a defense-mechanism, which in Paul's case he naturally does everytime someone calls.
Hey listen guys... I'm done talking here, and won't be back until things change within the company or I'm gone.
Best to all... as we'll need it in the coming months.
Mastercraft, if your going to send that statement, send this one too.
Paul, if your going to delay the 10k [that is if.... not saying PBLS is], then by all means wait until there is significant news out regarding a large entity who may be buying our products. Maybe one large PR followed by 2 or 3, then PR the delay if it comes to that.
EOM EOM EOM
Good... EOM
In a general repy, I understand there are many here lurking, those here who have never called, and most who haven't had the privilege of knowing current PBLS interrogator's. In a private room with PA, be assured one guy here would get the info needed to probably send us all packing.
That said, my points are these as I've stated many times before. Paul Alonzo is not qualified to be a PUBLIC CEO, not now, and maybe not ever! PERIOD! I truly didn't understand this up front before I invested [due to general chats and such] and not asking hard questions from the get-go. If I would have, this type of conversation would not be forthcoming, and my investment with be NIL. We don't have a rat in the house as I've stated, it's more like a Bull in a china-closet with horse-carriage type blinders. There are those who kiss PA's $aa, and those who don't. Those who don't are already gone, those who do [exception for the most part RON] are still around. There is the good-ol-boy mentality including himself, wife and son, with no one as of yet on the board of directors in which we could call grandeur. Neither is the new hire nor Ron Blackburn and that really BUGS THE CRAP out of me and others I personally know.
As I've stated, we don't have a sham or a scam brewing here, but we have an inner-most-circle in which I'm not comfortable with. If that doesn't change before the order of OB status is announced, I know many longs here could/quite possible... pull out, take their losses and move on.
Over the past 12 years of investing, it is normal for pink sheet investors to hold 3 to 6 months on faith, but the stink of a "pirate" lurks as we try to assemble something of tangible value.
Paul needs to get his family out of the main-stay, no not excluded but to the side and elect board-members in which everyone would aprove. I asked him about this but got a terrible response. And there are those here who wonder why I post the way I do but own $120,000.00 dollars worth of stock?
Paul needs to retire, step aside, keep his vision in place, take a board seat, and hire someone who will drop his perverbal pants in high-regard to transparency!
Paul? Are you listening? YOU GOTTA GO!!!!!!!!
We will vote you out if needed!!!!
Stephen Temple [yup that's me]
A reverberating echo I think is in order only from my perspective there are truly hard numbers which should have already followed for each company, i.e. 3-D, ProGas, and Murphy.
We know the future for ProGas regarding new and quite possibly already committed contracts are huge for 2006; but have we seen a recent PR? No! Why? You know why!
We know 3-D is also reacting to new contracts, so where is a recent PR and hard numbers?
Murphy since mid to late 05 has also brought in new contracts and numbers, where are they?
It’s a fact that new contracts have been forthcoming, in the course of, and are now approved from the above entities; so what’s the hold up regarding a release?
To small or too secretive? hmmm
Let’s say for example ProGas has brought forward $300,000 in new contracts since the acquisition. Why wouldn’t this be news worthy? Why wouldn’t new contracts from 3-D builders be news worthy even if the amounts are say $100k or less? Why wouldn’t new contracts through Murphy S & G be news worthy?
What is news worthy?
Again it’s a fact… there are new numbers, new contracts from each entity, only with Paul Alonzo his idea of “transparency” is to hold back ‘hard facts’ until he deems appropriate. Yeah Paul’s a feisty guy… only this side of our President belongs behind closed doors negotiating new contracts with Ron.
If the company by chance announces [just a thought here guys] to postpone the 10K, that’s ok I guess… but where’s the support to keep the long term investors onboard? If it happens they should have already thought about it, right?
As Paul has so ineloquently stated to me and others… if you don’t like it… sell it!
I personally don’t like what I “don’t hear” and agree totally with FM, and that is if Phoenix is going to spend good money on talented attorney’s, they should also be spending money on marketing and not a caddy-shack-looking-gent who spends most of his time chasing goofy golf balls every chance he gets.
Fact: someone inside the company couldn’t remember the last time Mike M called the company to ask questions. Questions he should be asking on weekly bases to keep shareholders updated so that when a shareholder calls Mike to chat a bit, and mentions something in general in which Mike hasn’t heard yet, the dude goes to pieces. This is someone we can do without, and hopefully… PA will figure it out sooner rather than later.
I don’t smell a rat, I smell a house in which the corners need to be cleaned, buffed, and a series of News-Statement on how tidy things are including who’s coming to dinner!
All this comes down to someone so paranoid about news getting out in which investors see as noteworthy.... yet one insider see's [the competition lurking], I just don't understand that kind of thinking!
I haven't changed my outlook on PBLS long term as in 15-cents, but have pushed that number back until May or June of this year. If we get a government contract, [if if] it's almost a sure bet it is not going to have hard numbers.
If the 10K gets pushed back for some reason lets hope the company is smart enough to release contracts [no matter how small] currently underwraps to help LT-shareholders stay afloat!
Temp'
[I'm talking all here/there/everywhere/ It's either no one listens... or no one cares too. I tend to believe it's no one cares to. The the facts remain regarding "transparency", Paul A@@ Alonzo doesn't care to tell anything about anything if he doesn't absolutely feel the need. Unfortunately.... he doesn't have to, and unfortunately, we'll probably need to wait for each quarter to get what we deserve even with the OB status. How many here have spent mucho time getting to know Paul? I have, and wish well beyond wish-books..... Ron was in charge. But, that's not what we have, so again, it's because of Paul that we don't have what every investors desires, and that is "transparency".
End of Story!
Temp'
One of the better written releases I've seen overall, but one huge flaw.... why Marketwire and not the usual Businesswire. Business wire in the case of PBLS is usually set aside for PR's in which a wider range of investors could be interested in BIG News. This to me is the beginning of BIG NEWS, so that said... I am very disappointed in Paul's judgement regarding today's release.
On the positive side, I'll take a very small flame over a quick spark [regarding the news and how it was written] any day!
Uptempo'
At least a couple... EOM
Yeah oh... mike likes to fluff a lot doesn't he? I rode UPDA from .33 up to a buck, then it's .19cents now .40. Hmmmm, doesn't sound like a roller coaster including their funding in which others shouldn't even receive his letters. As for me... I linked his emails to SPAM.
That spells Mike as in.....
Stupid
Panhandling
Advertising
MIKE
Temp'
An acquisition guy onboard any company is always going to have ONGOING projects, it could be three, it could be 13, but to say PBLS is working on 9 acquistions is not only a lie [in which you could be liable], but represents false statements, which should never be made here even if you post IMO.
Be very careful what you say because not only is the company checking daily to see who posts what, but the SEC as well.
There are currently NO... concrete acquistions, but there are projects in which Ron is currrently working on. I could say 8, I could say 18, but a project is a project, whereas you're statement of "acquistion", is on the order of....?
I think you get the picture....
Temp'
Well some on RB say it's not, I truly don't know. But I do enjoy making silly posts in RE: of "don't you know their drilling?".
Give me a break!
Aloha
SirTempest
No...they have yet to drill one well! EOM