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The volume over the last few days has been the largest in over a year. 350k of buying two days ago and 130k of shares bought today at .01. Expect that to continue
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=HSCC&p=D&yr=0&mn=2&dy=0&id=p53412310154
It should be working its way back up over the next few days and weeks I have a feeling. The shares below a penny or low penny are good deal. Those that have accumulated this over the years know it requires a great deal of patience. We keep holding it because we know that in the long run we will be rewarded.
volume does look good this morning. I think lots of good things will come our way this year with HSCC. Gary seems to be taking a bigger role in things. That Facebook site definitely has Gary's tech oriented influence. Good to see
They don't need to state the pps would go up they just need to pr the systems that Gary has already designed and engineered for the POT companies in Colorado. Gary already has communication with these companies how else would he have designed their surveillance systems for the last 2-3 years. The problem is Dave and Gary never see the big picture long term value of these projects. Plus its all very secret. lol. As far as the price going up I thought I explained that fairly plainly that investors and Wallstreet are looking at any and all the companies that are associated with the Pot industry. A few clear winners will emerge from this. As was the Dot com boom many many companies that had the association of being a Dot Com stock sky rocketed as the herd stampeded to buy anything that resembled Dot Com. Rising tide lifts all boats. The low float boats rise much faster and the low float non diluted boats don't sink back down as fast. The DotBong stocks could repeat history. HSCC just needs to get known as a Pot stock. A series of PR's and a descent website would be a good start. I guess Cheapo Dave never paid the bill on the old website and they took it down. lol Should we chip in to pay the bill?
John777 good to be back. The Pot industry has created a huge opportunity. Gary Williams somehow just seems to end up at the right place at the right time. Of the pot stocks I invested in PHOT. Like I said most are PINKS and non reporting. MDBX is a pink but that is about to change. What we are going to see happen is a few of these companies will transition to a bigger exchange and get the backing of big investors and lots of GURU pump from brokerages. I think PHOT has a good chance at being one of those. What I like about it is they are a pick and shovel pot stock. They make fully automated Hydroponic growing systems. These can be used for vegetables as well as pot. They run absolutely zero risk of breaking any Fed laws concerning Pot.
Kyle Tracey, President of GrowLife, is quoted in the piece as saying "We are positioned as the only real safe and legal play for investors in our sector, as we support progressive normalization of cannabis laws but do not grow, sell or distribute any substances that violate U.S. law."
this could easily read "Dave Shade President of Homeland Security Corporation, is quoted in the piece as saying "We are positioned as the safest,debt-free, profitable and legal play for investors in the Pot sector, as we support progressive normalization of cannabis laws but do not grow, sell or distribute any substances that violate U.S. law. In fact HSCC surveillance systems make it easy for our customers to work closely with all government and law enforcement agencies to ensure total compliance is met from seed to sale."
PHOT Likes
1. Pick and shovel
2. Fully reporting
3. profitable
4. High growth
5. Organized plan for the future
6. Chart that has 3 month base at .04 with lots of blue sky above.
PHOT Dislike
1. Some dilution Shares Outstanding5: 343.57M
Float: 243.11M
bigfish1972 Member Profile bigfish1972
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:31:25 PM
Re: The Apostle post# 1939
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O/S as of the August 10-Q:
As of August 17, 2012 there were 307,751,445 shares of the issuer’s common stock, $0.0001 par value per share, outstanding.
And the last 10-Q in November:
As of November 15, 2012 there were 343,573,181 shares of the issuer’s common stock, $0.0001 par value per share, outstanding.
So they've added over 36M shares, and who knows how many since then.
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This dilution of PHOT has kept the price from rallying above .04. If it continues they penny crowd will get impatient and leave. We know what that means. Dilution ultimately kills everything. PHOT better get that figured out fairly soon. The following is there latest pr that does a good job of covering the interest in brokerages and big money investors looking for the few pot stocks that will become big winners.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/investors-realizing-potential-legalized-cannabis-133000254.html
"I'm getting calls….from the C-Suites at brokerage houses. There are more legitimate investors interested in it. And the more transparent the industry gets, the more sustainable it becomes." Along these lines, the article also highlights that GrowLife is a fully reporting transparent entity, which is uncommon in the industry as there are a number of 'pink' sheets that do not provide regular financial reporting details to the SEC.
PHOT has a huge float 243mill compared to HSCC less than 10mil
PHOT is diluting HSCC is not
PHOT has their product presentation shxx together Dave does not
PHOT is reporting HSCC is not
PHOT has lots of debt HSCC has none
MDBX on the other hand has no profit
yet MDBX is $80 a share
MDBX has a float of 1.9 million shares
MDBX has almost 1 Billion dollar market cap despite about 100k in assests.
HSCC is somewhere in-between PHOT and MDBX
It should be easy to see the path to success for HSCC is
1. Fully reporting
2. Keep float the same
3. Pr campaign to spotlight the fact that HSCC is a pick and shovel pot stock and Dave doesn't even know such things exists unless you tell him.
4. Fix the website.
CNBC and all the other pumping agencies will handle the rest.
Gary Williams is the designer and engineer for many innovative surveillance systems throughout many industries. Gary spent many months in Colorado over the last 2-3 years working closely with medical marijuana growing, manufacturing companies and dispensaries. Little known to the public are the strict laws for growers thru dispensaries that require 24/7 surveillance systems of the entire operation to track all the marijuana being grown and sold legally. HSCC has been on the cutting edge of setting up these custom designed surveillance systems in a rapidly growing industry. Projections are 200 Billion dollars a year in pot sales. The relationships established in Colorado give HSCC a pick and shovel foot in the door of this MONSTER Size DOTBONG revolution that has just begun.
"With the passage of state House Bill 10-1284 and HB 11-1043, Colorado Medical Marijuana Dispensaries are required to perform surveillance on patients who shop at the stores. MMCs are now required to have video cameras record every transaction in an MMC or a production facility. MMCs are also helping the Department of Revenue track every patient purchase from "seed to sale" in a massive law enforcement database to ensure that patients do not get "too much" medicine. These videos and transaction records will be available to all law enforcement, including the DEA, on demand, without a warrant, and without notification to patients that their information has been released to the police."
Walstreet has covered several of these companies. I have researched all of them. The following is a list of all of the Pot growing or picks and shovel pot companies.
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.html?PHOT,MWIP,MDBX,HEMP,GRNH,MJNA,CBIS,AVT,TRTC,ERBB,SRER,hscc|B|F
Most of the companies are pink sheets or BB stocks. Many are dilution pigs that will fall by the wayside. One in particular has had a huge huge run to a high of $215 about $80 currently. MDBX (pinksheet). Medbox, a vending machine company that got the great idea to put pot in a vending machine. Sounds like Redbox. The stock has a float of 1.9 million shares a OS of 11 million and an AS of 100million. No dilution (yet). MDBX has a market cap of $890million today and $93k in cash. No profits
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000140165&__source=yahoo|headline|quote|video|&par=yahoo
Listen to Maria talk about the very low float.
HSCC has a OS of 189mil 141mil we know are restricted, 48mil float we know 35 mil is owned by 16 shareholders, about 20mil owned by the posters on this board. The float is very small because of the patience of all of us on this board that have spent the last 5-6 years buying up shares.
We can see that the low float of MDBX drove it to astronomical levels and has kept it elevated.
I've been tracking all of the pot stocks. The only other pinksheet or BB out of the bunch that doesn't have a huge float and OS with ongoing dilution is HSCC. It shows the short sided view of the CEO's of these companies.
The Media has been going crazy over the pot stocks for the last couple months. This is being compared to the Dotcom boom in stocks in the 90's. If you watch the CNBC videos you get a feel for the excitement of catching the next big wave. Well this is it. The analysts are looking for the companies that have the potential to ride this boom and get up-listed to a Major exchange.
Once again Dave Shade has found himself sitting on top of a powder keg and most likely doesn't even know it.
Face it no one gives a shzz to hear about Crane cam until we see the sales numbers in complete financials disclosure. The current Homeland website is about as exciting as a yawn.
All this is going to take is for HSCC to get its name out there as a Ground Floor Pick and Shovel Pot stock on one of the major news services. From that moment on this will become a huge huge momentum play.
Dave needs to
1. Disclose financials
2. Update website or better yet fix old one and update it
3. Min of 10 pr campaign with focus on financial disclosure initially, then Pot Surveillance Camera systems Gary designed and that are currently being used in Colorado and elsewhere.
Do these things and HSCC has a chance of several Dollars a share, uplisting, Dave and everyone on this board having a comfortable retirement.
List of POT stocks and picks and shovels pot stocks http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.html?PHOT,MWIP,MDBX,HEMP,GRNH,MJNA,CBIS,AVT,TRTC,ERBB,SRER,hscc|B|F
By: tradingspaz from RB VLNX Good read, loaded up and ready to roll
23 Aug 2012, 12:13 PM CDT
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VLNX .022 Stoploss99 It's a high risk POS pennystock that may be up for a Dead Cat bounce. The twist to this one is new though.
It started out Brand new shell out of the box last week.
VLNX Security Details
Share Structure
Market Value1 $6,377,869 a/o Aug 22, 2012
Shares Outstanding 375,168,783 a/o Jun 30, 2012
Float 100,015,556 a/o Jun 30, 2012
Authorized Shares 500,000,000 a/o Jun 30, 2012
Par Value 0.001
Shareholders
Shareholders of Record 417 a/o Jun 30, 2012
This stock had not traded, 200ma and 50ma flat at .10. It came out as a APS promo play last Thursday to the members that shelled out $150 to get the text/email notification 1st. It gapped to .13 then ran to .394 closing at .32 first day. Well Look above at shareholders of Record 417 a/o Jun 30,12. I don't know about you but if I owned shares of a stock that hadn't traded for months and all of a sudden it shot to .39 of massive volume I would be inclined to sell sell sell some of those, about 99% of them. That night and the next day APS did not come out and announce it to the rest of the folks in the world like you and me. Everyone that plays the APS is so use to getting regular emails everyday of the promo reassuring them all is well. What do you suppose happened? Massive rumors and panic ensued, selling combined with the 417 shareholders heading for the exits.
The next day it closed at .04 The savvy trader bought shares at .04got a bounce, the next morning it gapped up and ran to .062. A quick bounce play.
But part of the disclaimer to the Premium alert service was if anyone leaks the pick, APS would delay the announcement to the rest of the world. Almost sounds planned. Who can keep a secret like that? And low and behold APS announced they were delaying the announcement. VLNX has been getting sold hard all week on rumors and people bailing out. Today APS said Monday is the day of announcement. At first glance they have put theirselves in a bad position. If they announce another stock no-one will touch it after what happened with VLNX prem alert crowd making Stupid bagholders out of themselves, buying when it was already up 300% from a dime. APS will be done for certain.
If they announce VLNX as the pick that was delayed because of stupid premium alert Bagholders, they could make this into a multi multi bagger. After all its only .02 right now. APS made its mark earlier this year with several low priced pennys that went from .03 to well over $1. IMO the only option is to announce VLNX and blame it on the premium alert bagholders for leaking it. After all anyone that buys a stock that has run up 300% already that day has proved they are an idiot and deserve a good swacking. IHUB is full of those idiots. Everyone has been clamoring for a low price APS play. Well it doesn't get much better than .02. now .023+40%. APS play or not fact is this dead Cat is off over 90% and has Monster Bounce written all over it.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=VLNX&p=D&yr=0&mn=2&dy=0&id=p52103583004
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BBDA topped on the 16th like I said and took a huge dump today like I said it would. That was considered OFF Topic and will get you banned along with calling the lizard a bagholder. Let me stand corrected a stupid bagholder.
From last night
Recap the 4 portfolio
#1 10k now $663k In 100% cash Zero left on table
#2 10k now $400k In BBDA stock $263k left on table
#3 10k now $92k in BBDA stock $60k left on table
#4 10k now $6k, $4k down the toilet
Recap the chart
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=BBDA&p=D&yr=0&mn=0&dy=16&id=p03330791108
150million traded today big sell day pps down 24.85%
Penny hasn't been tested .0097stands out so does .0054. This is the target range I'm seeing as the first bounce play target and the stock continues down the backside.
Of the senarios above the #1 guy is in fat city with lots of cash to play the bounce. The next two are profitable and will get swacked tomorrow as the slide heats up. #4 sorry but your screwed. Take the loss like a man, Pick yourself up and dust yourself off. Learn from the mistake and live to trade again.
Thanks for your time Hope this helps prevent future bagholding and mazimizes your profits.
We'll look at how they did tomorrow night. Until then remember
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs get slaughtered, and Lizards become bagholders.
Updating the 4 portfolio from yesterday
#1 10k now $663k In 100% cash Zero left on table played the bounce off the 50ma at .0047 to .0090 $663k now $1.269mil
#2 10k now $263kk In BBDA stock $400k left on table 147k loss today
#3 10k now $60k in BBDA stock $92k left on table 30k loss today
#4 10k now $3.9k, $6k down the toilet
ScaryStuff "We are in this together. Stay the course People and do NOT let Posts you may read lead you to sell."
What should really scare the hexx out of you tho is BBDA current share structure AS 2,500,000,000 OS 2,249,111,020 Float 1,457,111,
This brings up another saying Swimming in Shares Imagine yourselves trying to swim upstream like a fish and they are dumping more shares in the waters above you. Pretty soon its like being on a treadmill that keeps speeding up and the incline increasing to the point you can't hang in there and you fall back then slip off and crash into whatever's in the way.
25 years of trading and a share structure like that tells me one thing dilution dilution dilution right up to the next r/s. You simply don't have AS in the billions unless your about nothing but dilution. The Float is 1.4 Billion. Holy Crap.
It is absolutely amazing this has run 5800% from .0003 because eventually that's where its headed back to.
I don't come out and say this very often but I think it is warranted given the share structure The Float is 1.4 Billion. Holy Crap. Run For the Exits, Time To Bail, KD Bar the Door were getting the F out of here. Anyone that tells you to stay in this Diluted POS is needs to have their head twisted off like a big tick.
VLNX had an OK bounce up to .062 a couple days ago for those that acted fast. We have been given a great opportunity especially today to load up cheapo shares .02's at a leisurely pace. Any Kat that falls down this hard over 90%, especially since it is a brand spanking new shell, with untouched share structure deserves a chance to run and run big. All the APS BS is blowing off and skys are about to clear. The live chart for today is flatter than west Texas. When stockcharts.com indicators start to turn up we will get ignition and light the main rocket boosters.
When we go thru 10,000 ft we'll roll inverted so we can get a good look and wave at all the bystanders and the APS funeral procession.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=VLNX&p=D&yr=0&mn=0&dy=16&id=p76018743138
Lisard at .27 Teffster .32 Komodo Robot .335 Keep your chins up and lets just look forward. At least you are in. I try so many times in my Posts to discourage panic selling but I know it is tough to hold through it sometimes. We're all good here. That was a welcome drop as was necessary and now we move forward. The best to you and all.
Tomorrow let ALL of us here on this Board Post our comments and what we think. Everyone can learn from each other. Many of you may be new here but I will say many of you have also grown here and learned some things from trading on past Promos and regular Penny stocks over the months. For that all comments are welcome and will help others out here. That is why we are here! Lets hope this Play is a good one and that we can all make money
Hang in here with VLNX!
To those that are Newbies with VLNX. I can't emphasize enough to hang tight here. You all may be used to Pennies falling right back down where they came from. You may be frustrated. I've only seen a small handful come across in the 25 years I've been in Pennies that had fallen as much as VLNX did. Of that handful, I exited everyone of them years back to prevent losses. It's not happening this time thus the reason the 3 held since from the .27-.33 range. The mere fact that VLNX hasn't uptrended yet down over 90% as of Today since Thurs with no major moves up other than some consolidation (normal and healthy) should tell most that VLNX has "Legs" behind this move.
We have a large amount of Board Followers here (). Many are those that have been around the Block and many are those that are new to this and may be amazed with their losses. Many are simple minded people looking to make a quick and easy Dollar. Some are college students gambling their student loans and grants. I get PM's from a whole array of people with questions. I have been steadfast with VLNX since .022. My views on it back then are no different than now other than the other time I flipped it this morning I wish many had got in back then. You see me come on here and there during the days with Posts but not all that often unless warranted as we saw the other day when we had a Dip and many were screaming "Timber" or "Sell". At that time I posted I had already used my 3 Posts for the day so I couldn't persuade some of you not to sell prematurely. Hopefully it worked as we have consolidated nicely since than. I do not believe in scare tactics as this is Obama's borrowed money they have invested.
Hold your ground and do not sell yourself short. I think you will be rewarded nicely IMO. VLNX!
An opportunity like this only presents itself rarely as I have learned in 25 years.
Hang in there, keep the faith and disregard negativity. If we see another 90% Dip, just walk away if it is bothersome as the trend is up and the retracement will only be temporary.
Newbies on an entry point. More than likely we have a rally here at some point. We want it and need it. With that said one could wait for that but there is no telling when it will come and if it will be all that much of a rally small or Monster, considering the momentum here along with the potential of what VLNX has going for it. TBH, my theory in a situation like this is to just take at position at the current pps tomorrow and not to worry about trying to "Time" a Dip. The trend is up or down, no doubt. Could you maybe get in a few ticks lower at some point? Yes. But sometimes it is not worth waiting for that IMO. Just some thoughts. GLTY on whatever you decide.
Keep the faith, hope, luck charms, and warm fuzzies.
Thanks for reading and a great night to all and GLTA!
Vision Plasma Systems, Inc. sales of $139 Million USD. (PINKSHEETS: VLNX) today announced it has secured a sales and marketing agreement with Kaes Enterprises of Puyallup, WA. to secure federal contracts and management expertise for the deployment of the Arc Master I systems to the Veterans Administration hospitals as well as major western US major military installations for 28 Arc Master I units, representing sales of $139 Million USD.
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By: tradingspaz
17 Aug 2012, 03:44 PM CDT
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I bought 2 million shares of that POS VLNX at .04 thanks for the heads up
Longs are in good company with Spaz and rivet from rb
The Premium Alert Service is whats called "Giving Me a Cookie" If they can get you to pay the $150 or whatever it costs you will buy the stock as soon as it hits the press. Some car dealers use this, you give $20-$50 refundable deposit before you make an offer on a car and deal. They know that if you do, the sale is 80% in the bag. This was/is used during interrogations of POW's. The interrogator gets one little unimportant piece of information out of the POW most likely without threat he has led them down the path to open up with important information.
The people that sign up for the Premium Bagholder Alert Service and shell out $150 are dam well gonna use it as soon as they get Bagholder Alert/tweet. After all they paid good money and they are the elite, unlike me I don't get alerts, tweets, emails from APS I just wait till I read the humorous posts of all the Robot IHUB pumpers high fiving each other that they got in at .335 with $20k despite the fact its up 300% plus in the first 30 minutes. Because they know it will be $1.20 within a few days. Then when it pulls back guess what they have been scammed because they payed $150 to be a front row bagholder.
Okie Dokie Let's revist the exact opposite example GWBU Alerted at about $1.25 average person got in $1.5. No chance for even a double bagger for the average investor buying at that level.
dude iligence Member Profile dude iligence
Friday, May 18, 2012 1:51:23 AM
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By starting the promo at $1.2-1.3 APS gains exponentially and the shareholders potential to make money shrinks significantly.
Lets say you have 100 million new shares to dump (sell) to prospective bagholders(shareholders). If you start your promo at say .10 by the time it gets to a $1 many of the shares you sold to the shareholders at .10 and higher will have been flipped and recirculated providing substantial gains for those trading it. It will take you 10 million shares sold at a dime to make a $1million. Chances are you won't sell a full million at $1 a share or higher. The stock will have a much higher percentage gain for the shareholders but not for the company that basically gets his shares free by authorizing them and approving the distribution of them.
But if you start your promo at $1.2-1.3 every million shares you dump (sell) to the bagholders (shareholders) is worth what 12 million were worth at .10.
The bagholders (shareholders) that are buying at $1.2-$1.5 are going to hold on to their shares till at least they get a double bag out of it (100% isn't that what Garyst said) So while everyone is holding out for the gain you the company are controlling the price by the rate of dilution and timing and quality of prs. As the price gets closer to the 100% target of the shareholders, you the promoter/company want to be out of your shares because the shareholders will start to sell and once that happens it will be a race for the exits.
GWBU seems to be a case of diminishing returns for the bagholders (shareholders)
At some point APS will have to go back to promoting lower priced pennystocks because the risk will far outweigh the reward of jumping on the high priced plays.
I will wait and play the bounces because this will come down much faster and harder than any APS play before.
Other bounce plays SNPK been very good last two days.
CHK deep V-notch forming maybe at a bottom for a bounce.
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At some point APS will have to go back to promoting lower priced pennystocks because the risk will far outweigh the reward of jumping on the high priced plays.
We are now at that point. The Premium Bagholder Alert system started at .10. The next day there was a alert that some of you guys screen shot. The time of that alert coincided with the botttom of the drop in the morning .055. Coincidental I think not. If you control all the shares and the price is to high to that keeps experienced guys like me from loading up you better take the price down because if you don't allow us to get on board you'll be reading reality posts like the one above on GWBU for the next 6 weeks.
So what do you do? Don't put out any emails to the attention span of a knat investor that needs APS to hold their hand, wipe their butt and reassure them that all is well. That may have been enough to set off a panic selloff. If that's not enough throw out some shares and drive the price down and keep it down so everyone that has a cluebag thats not empty will have time to buy all they want.
Thank You for giving use that opportunity on Friday.
Then what do you do next. Shut off the tap of new shares and the price starts to climb. When the mood is better send out an email reassuring all is well and claim you alerted at .055. After all guys like me that bought a .04 will back that up and when it hits a buck well both claim a 20 plus bagger.
APS your the greatest.
Ascendancy10 you clearly have a trader mentality and will be successful because of it. That is missing in many of the posters I see here. They are relying on a promo to carry them along. Janice doesn't have a trader mentality and never will. She has a cop mentality and her focus is on how everyone got cheated. To me that is a loser attitude that will never result in profitable trading.
Back May 18 I bought CHK at $13.37 and told her about it at the close it was still only $14.35 at the close, a huge bargain. Tonight at $19.14 my $250k I put in CHK is $357k and I haven't done anything.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CHK&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p86693271572
There is an important message in this post that pertains to VLNK it is in bold
dude iligence
Friday, May 18, 2012 4:15:12 PM
Re: janice shell post# 335008
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Janice if you buy a junk stock at .0001 and it splits and you double your shares and the price stays at .0001 you've made 100% on your junk stock. At that pt it doesn't matter if it ran to .0011 the next day or next year. As long as you bought before the split at .0001 not .0002 and sold on the run up that's what matters.
Watch the movie, like Basher Bob you are hung up on the quality of the stock not the move of the stock. This is why you will never understand and or make any money trading stocks.
Junk stocks CHK all over the news price down from $25 to 13 in the last 6 weeks. All kinds of bad news. That creates huge opportunity. I bought that POS yesterday at $13.37 a nickel from the bottom. Today it closed at $14.35. The analyst are so hung up on all the bad they overlooked that NG rallied 35% during the same 6 weeks and CHK asset value is $25 a share. Give them a week or so and that's what will be in the news and the price will be higher and I make money. You would be fixated on all the problems the company has and how the shareholders got cheated.
Her response typical and predictable for a non trader.
janice shell Member Profile janice shell Member Level
Friday, May 18, 2012 4:21:55 PM
Re: dude iligence post# 335009
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A quick look at a chart suggests to me that CHK just experienced a dead cat bounce. We'll see what happens next. Nothing ever goes straight up, or straight down.
Very similar to her response about VLNX and the response of many of the posters here complaining because the price is at .04 not .34.
Personally I would much rather buy at .04.
I based my trading on the charts and the VLNX 1 min live chart from Friday has massive buy volume spikes starting at 10:49 est1.35 mil, 2.95mil,1.87mil etc. For the next hour there was solid buying. The rest of the day the selling was light compared to those buying spikes. We got a bonus dump that started at 15:17 and lasted till 15:24 that took it below .04. This is where the best buy opportunity came.
What I see is a stock that has no history only 2 days of trading on huge volume 300mil and 103 mil, huge controversy that created mass panic selling creating a 90% move downward met with strong armed buying. Just like CHK and many other stocks the selloff creates a high quality move regardless of the quality of the stock.
To trade stocks successfully especially the POS pennystocks the focus has to be in the right area.
I place very little focus on the promo. I place focus on the price, volume, support, resistance.
IMO I see a huge opportunity for a big return on your investment and a huge opportunity for APS to pull a big win out of this mess. After all its only day two of a 6-8 week promo. Remember APS key to success is the low price penny play that everyone can load up on cheap and make a multi multi bagger at a $1.
Common Cents is the trader that doesn't buy into the first day of hype when the promo or, any stock that is up several hundred percent. Here is some rules I posted a while back. NUMBER 1 rule I never never violate.
Below illustrates why
Lizard's $27,000 now only $4000 in less than 24 hours. This is a repeat of losses similar to the last promo the lizard bought on the first day. For those inexperienced let this be an important lesson in playing POS Penny stocks. Here are some rules to save your azz and not become a lizard which lives below the Pigs on the Stock Trading Food chain.
The newbies can learn valuable lessons from losses this substantial
1. Don't buy into the hype of the first day when the pps is already up several hundred percent.
2. If you violate rule 1 and do buy the first day and it goes up several hundred percent sell with a profit.
3. If you violate rules 1 and 2 and the pps drops till your flat, SELL IMMEDIATELY.
4. If you violate rules 1,2, and 3 and the pps drops below what you paid for it. SELL IMMEDIATELY THE TRADE IS NOT GOING AS YOU PLANNED. Take a small loss. You can always buy back cheaper. And with more shares.
5. If you violate rules 1,2,3,and 4 look in the mirror and say I'm a stupid bagholder and this sucks and I don't ever want to be a bagholder again.
6. If you violate rules 1,2,3,4 and 5 you need remedial bagholder training and should consider Mutual Funds.
I made money on all the APS plays but I didn't buy a single one on the first day. In fact I don't even get the APS emails right now let alone the stupid premium bagholder service.
I emailed APS back when they did GWBU and told them they had better make their next pick a low priced penny stock. Why? Because that is what made them so successful. They took a low priced stock around a dime and then ran it to a $ and everything above that was Bonus. Let's look at one of the first ones
AMWI Look at the chart
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=AMWI&p=D&yr=0&mn=10&dy=0&id=p74107167477
The first day it had a range from .45 down to a close of .03 approx. This was the first APS I followed and traded. That day it closed down at .03 I thought what a POS. The next day it opened about .06 rebounded to .18 where it stayed for the next couple weeks.
If I had only bought it at .03 and rode it to $1.39.
Well I didn't because it fell from the high over .40 all the way down to .03 and it had zero history, brand new out of the box.
Hmm does that sound like a stock we are talking about on this board. .10 up to .34 then falls to .04 and brand new out of the box. plus $11 million contract.
All I see is opportunity here with VLNX. The following on APS is perhaps 10 times what it was with AMWI. VLNX unlike the recent APS plays is a low priced penny stock with lots and lots of upside. Friday it was taken down so the experienced traders could load up. I posted Friday on my 3rd and final post that I bought 250k shares in the mid .05's. when it dropped below .04 I started buying more. I bought another 750k shares, I now have 1 million shares.
So for you guys that bought the first day of the promo stop whining and complaining APS screw you. No you screwed yourselfs. You were given an opp to load up cheap on Friday. If you bought high you could have averaged way down granted you didn't violate another of my rules and dump all you cash in. If your still whining go stand in front of the mirror and call yourselfs stupid bagholders.
APS plays got increasingly expensive with less and less return to be made with higher risk of holding. What happen Thurs and Friday was inevitable.
VLNX is way cheap .04 a ten bagger and its only .40 a 25 bagger and its $.
There is no reason to think it can't be done.
I found this on RB and If these guys are in this there is money to be made
By: tradingspaz
17 Aug 2012, 03:44 PM CDT
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I bought 2 million shares of that POS VLNX at .04 thanks for the heads up
I only get 3 posts a day so this is my last post. VLNX live charts shows basing a current levels. For those that moved fast there were a few shares in the mid .05's during the panic. From a risk vs reward perspective. Buying at the current level .07's has a good probability of a nice solid bounce. The promo started at .10 gapped to about .14 then ran to .32. A lot of you guys liked this in the .30 and then you should really like it now. The gap from .10 to .14 is 50-100% gainer. The risk is low at this point vs the reward is high.
If this is an APS pick once the confusion and fear subside they have one mission to regain their status they lost during the SNP# quagmire.
Personally I bought 250k shares in the last hour while it sits down here and everybody lays there like they've been hit by a taser.
APS could easily run this back to .32 which would give them a 300% gainer. APS made their mark on low penny plays going over a dollar and delivering solid multi multi baggers to the players that got in early.
Well here is their op to get back in the saddle. I'll be happy to go along for the ride up. PPS has already moved into the 08's.
Lizard's $27,000 now only $14,900 in less than 24 hours. This is a repeat of losses similar to the last promo the lizard bought on the first day. For those unexperienced let this be an important lesson in playing POS Penny stocks. Here are some rules to save your azz and not become a lizard which lives below the Pigs on the Stock Trading Food chain.
The newbies can learn valuable lessons from losses this substantial
1. Don't buy into the hype of the first day when the pps is already up several hundred percent.
2. If you violate rule 1 and do buy the first day and it goes up several hundred percent sell with a profit.
3. If you violate rules 1 and 2 and the pps drops till your flat, SELL IMMEDIATELY.
4. If you violate rules 1,2, and 3 and the pps drops below what you paid for it. SELL IMMEDIATELY THE TRADE IS NOT GOING AS YOU PLANNED. Take a small loss. You can always buy back cheaper. And with more shares.
5. If you violate rules 1,2,3,and 4 look in the mirror and say I'm a stupid bagholder and this sucks and I don't ever want to be a bagholder again.
6. If you violate rules 1,2,3,4 and 5 you need remedial bagholder training and should consider Mutual Funds.
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The lizard is a species that has a very small brain that can't seem to learn any of the above rules with any success. The lizard violated all the rules once again and seriously should consider Mutual Funds.
Lizard enjoy your weekend camping while your portfolio sinks further into the abyss.
As I said before the promo play died with SNP#.
Bulls make money, Bears make money, Pigs get slaughtered, and Lizards become bagholders.
BBDA up 5800% don't be a pig and most of all don't listen to the lizard and become a bagholder hanging around to see what tomorrow brings.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=BBDA&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p74104848932
Chart says Bulls made a lot of money and left, Bears are about to make a lot of money, Pigs are going to get slaughtered and the stupid lizards will get left holding the bag.
live charts show a wedge building. They need to let it breakout and move into the 30's. In other trades UGAZ $38.35 DGAZ $22.7 flip flop time
Interesting this was .30 and they dipped it to the day before the promo. Now its up 90% the next day and still below .30 If it gets above .30 .40 to .60 should be real easy like you said.
ronwy PVTA was .012 in late May, not even 2 months ago. Any stock that runs from .012 to .63 is a great stock by any measure. Just buying it at the top of a run isn't such a great idea.
PVTA chart just so you know the edge of the cliff is .40-.42. From there the first set of rocks is .18. The rocks at .18 aren't very solid so they won't offer a bounce just a deflection. More solid rocks start around .16. Just stand out of the way because you don't want any bagholders to land on you. That could be really messy.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=PVTA&p=D&yr=0&mn=2&dy=0&id=p00143632018
SPEBH Garyst please explain to the Newbies why not taking profits when you had them and holding this as it goes down to further losses is a wise decision.
Carlson Knowing which stocks have institutional support will help improve your investing skills, and teach you how to ride the waves of strong moves. In fact, Support is Provided By Institutional Investors & Company Insiders” is a component of investing framework for this very reason. XCO has the above support PVTA is riding on thin air with anemic volume. The light volume I alerted last week on PVTA as a polite way of letting those know it was about to take an elevator ride down. Later that day it dropped to .43. The same thing was taking place in CHK, light volume, it had dropped from $20 to $18.5 quickly, then rallied about 1/2 way back to $19 but light volume wouldn't allow any follow thru. Thursday it started to bleed and Friday it took a dump closing a gap and punching the 50ma. This increased the volume significantly closing just below the 50ma at $17.2. Monday and Tuesday will tell whether it will move back up or head down to retest $16.32.
Holding the shares would have resulted in a loss. ie $200k would drop to $172k. Or if you prefer $200 became $172.
Another trading opportunity is in the making.
XCO $7.67 had a great week +9% Setting up for triple top Breakout.
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?s=xco
2012 Marine it will never happen
$63k now $58k after 2 weeks and +20% gain today. Whats so great about that?
"The pps of PVTA is increasing here and all should be elated. Many may be able to break even or even go Green here in the very short term if things keep up. I will never understand"
Oh wow let's celebrate we might get to become Non Bagholders. I will agree you will never understand the skills involved in successful trading
181k traded LOW VOLUME ALERT chose wisely
Hope, luck, faith. I see a pattern repeated here that really has nothing to do with stock pricing. If your basing your trades on any of those 3 things prepare for hefty losses and perma bagholding status.
I'm just here to help the bagholders become non-bagholders
$630k now $490k
drugtester funny you never mention PPHM until this post after it is up for 15 days straight. If I'm wrong cut and paste your post. Otherwise you earn the title drugtesteRbullshzzter.
If the bid wasn't where you wanted to sell, then push it where you want to sell. Good time was slow times like lunch. 3 second gaurentee was only good for sells on the bid. ie if the best mm bid showed only 5000 share @.055 and the ask was .057 you could get out as many shares as you wanted at .055, i.e a 100k, 1mil as long as you broke them into 5k blks. Now imagine what trying to sell a million shares at the best bid on a slow day would do to the bid under normal conditions. They would execute 5k and lower the bid. But it was a computer program that automatically executed 5k shares or less.
Are we done yet lizard?
drugtester you said BZRT would hit .10 last week. Well what happened? I told you to move the decimal point and add a zero and your targets would be accurate. .29 becomes .029 and thats what it closed at on Friday, not .29. Now if we move the decimal and add a zero .10 become .01 a more likely target.
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Friday, July 06, 2012 9:15:22 AM
Re: dude iligence post# 1546
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Good morning dude_il... I have to disagree with you on this one. The extended July 4th holiday is in full effect this week. Many took Thursday and Friday off to have a nice five day vacation. BZRT has actually held up quite well considering the lull. I fully expect a nice run back over .10 next week and a move over the 50 day ma of .2924 after that.
10mins to execute is way to long. 3x leverage ETF's execute almost instantly. In and out no chasing the bid or ask. When Etrade had the 3 second trade guarantee on pennys you could get out of any POS penny withing 3 seconds all you had to do was line up all your trades in 5k blks at the bid and hit the execute all button and within 3 seconds you were out. Then Etrade had to go around trying to sell all the 5k blks you unloaded on them. That's why they got rid of it. Same thing when you wanted to get in just break it into 5k blocks on the ask. Never had to chase the bid or ask that anyone that has trade POS penny stocks is all to familiar with.
Once they get the export on NG worked out say good bye to cheap NG. I agree multi year rally mode and we got in at the bottom. I've been trading BOIL for several months and UGAZ most recently. Some days it swings 5-$7 a share, makes for a great day trade. I have been swing trading XCO. I bought it last week usually it runs for about 5-8 days then cycles the other way. I like the predictable trading ranges. We might see a breakout before long. Some big money guys have been buying XCO lately as a turn around stock.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=XCO&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p40321269428