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pitman33,
you're right on buddy, dreams is what's left. i kept telling everybody, it is not the company; it's THE VALUATION.
TO ALL,
IT WILL BE INTERESTING AS TO WHAT THE MARKET REACTION IA THIS MORNING. ONE THING I WOULD SAY; IF NO REAL UPSIDE VOLUME SHOWS UP,
THEN ALL THE TALK ON THIS BOARD MEANS ZIPPO.
Lucky40,
I really don't see why you guys are so thrilled here. sales where SUB PAR at 740k. now had sales been 2-3 million i would say OK.
Again no bashing here, it is all about VALUATION, it just simply does not COMPUTE. With annual sales in the 3 million range, proper valuation is around 2'sss my friend. The judje of my analysis is the market,so let's see tomorrow. my guess is that MINE is gonna sell off here. I would be thrilled if it pops, because i'd be selling it hands over fist. somehow i don't think
that's whats gonna happen. we gap down and sell off and that would be the nail in the coffin for a long time. you see longs do not want to admitt that they where expecting much higher sales figures.
SALES, PISS POR TO SAY THE LEAST, RUNNING AT 3 MILLION CLIP FOR 2015, WHICH MEANS PROPER VALUATION WOULD BE 2X SALES DIVIDED BY 3 BILLION SHARES = .002, LIKE I SAID TOMORROW YOU WILL SEE 3'SS,
MASSIVE DUMPING IN THE AM, I TOLD YOU SO, AGAIN NOT BASHING,BUT I HAVE BEEN PREACHING THE LONGS TO BE CAREFUL.
BeaU,
I guess the moment of truth is upon us my friend and the outlook is indeed GRIM to say the least. simply put the action here is terrible which leads me to believe that we're heading SOUTH i'm afraid. we are churning technically in a narrow band with a downard bias. it is only a question of time as to when the longs will throw in the towel and move on. i said it before ; PROPER VALUATION IS 3.8 -4.0.
FUTURE2016
WHAT NICE BASE MY FRIEND. you are breaking down as we speak.
YOu liongs need to slap the ask hard or else.....
FEARMORGORING, wow that a big word. JUST GO AND SLAP THE ASK.
Curt D
I believe this is the quiet before the storm, just added 10,000 shares, technically if we break 1.47, it's a clear shot to $2 IMO.
I am loaded here and lookking to add more on any close above 1.47.
Curt D
WOW, with earnings out, NO NEGATIVE REACTION, I believe the coast is clear to add some here. JMHO.
what are you expecting from earnings?
Bottoms Upward,
I think strike williams is confusing PE ratios with sales, yes PE could be 15 or even 20 but valuation from sales point of view is normally 2x or twice sales.
DocHoliday,
If MINE can pull 6 million in 2015 consider yourself LUCKY. It takes time to build a name and a following, but again if you're a true believer, MIRACLES DO HAPPEN. The test is coming soon in Q1 results. if sales are below 1.5 million, watch out !!! that would mean that ADOPTION of FIZZ is gonna take much longer, and that will lead for the hopefull longs to move on.
Taurus69,
TIME DOES MATTER. In fact time is the basis for any investment. TIME IS MONEY MY FRIEND. nobody has infinite time, return on any investment is measured in time.
Taurus69,
the reason we get to 3'ss is VALUATION. even being optimistic on 2015
revenue of 6 million and valuation at 2x sales; with 3 billion shares out there takes you to exactly 4. normally the market overshoots on the down side a bit and that's how proper valuation could be pegged 3.8 - 4.
and that is being optimistic on 6 million revenue. no bashing here folks, just the reallity.
3'ssss is he direction!!!!!!!!!
PItman33,
I can tell you one thing, from the action volume in the last three weeks, I think a penny would be a long shot. frankly the pumpers around here are loaded with shares and they're trapped IMO. They want to sell but can't down here." they do not want to take a loss ". I WOULD SHORT ON ANY STRENGHT AROUND78-79 RANGE. AND YES WE WILL SEE 3'SSS IMO.
TO ALL,
THE GERMAN CONNECTION IS BACK IN FULL SWING:
I REPORTED THIS BEFORE: DEUTCHBANK IMO WILL TAKE A POSITION IN NBG. DEUTCHBANK VALUES NBG NET ASSESTS AT $4 A SHARE.
IN GREECE THIS RUMOR IS ALL OVER. BUT I BELIEVE THIS CONNECTION WITH DEUTCHBANK MAKES SENSE ECONOMICALLY AND POLITICALLY.
hey folks, 15 minutes to go . let's all join and SLAP THE ASK HARD
AND TAKE CONTROL. WHO KNOWS MONDAY MORNING COULD BRING EXPLODING NEWS.
SMALLBLOCK,
THANK YOU BUDDY; YOU HAVE JUST TOLD ME WHAT I HAVE BEEN PREACHING:
EVERYBODY ALREADY BOUGHT AND YOU AND MANY OTHER LONGS ARE SITTING WAITING TO SELL. I REST MY CASE.
TRDINGJEFF,
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT YOU GUYS, I MEAN THE LONGS, KEEP TALKING BUT NO BUYING, SO WHAT'S UP WITH THAT. I REPEAT IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THE BUYING FOR YOU THEN I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU:
IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN
TO ALL
YOU GUYS NEED TO STEP IN AND START SLAPPING THE ASK, TODAY WITH THIS LOW VOLUME IS YOUR CHANCE TO TAKE CONTROL FROM THE MM. IT JUST TAKES SOME BALLS HERE, SHOW ME THAT YOU'VE GOT IT, SHOW ME.
NOBODY IS GONNA DO IT FOR YOU EXCEPT YOU , SHOW SOME GUTS WHEN NOBODY WANTS TO BUY AND YOU WILL BE THE WINNER.
L'audace toujours l'audace, for you folks you do french; TO DARE.
GENERAL GEORGE PATTON 1944
texaskeller
I SOLD A LONG TIME AGO BUDDY. BUT I WILL GIVE YOU AND ALL THE LONGS AN ADVISE HERE: IF YOU GUYS; I MEAN THE TRUE BELIEVERS, WILL NOT STEP IN AT THESE PRICES THEN THERE IS NO REAL HOPE HERE. NOW IF YOU'VE GOT THE 30 LIKE YOU CLAIM, THEN ADDING HERE WILL ONLY MAKE SENSE.
TEXASKELLER,
THE LONGS NEED YOUR HELP HERE, COME ON NOW, IF YOU'RE A TRUE BELIEVER IT WOULDN'T HURT TO ADD A FEW MORE SHARES AND HELP YOUR FELLOW LONGS WHO ARE DIYING ON THE VINE.
TexasKeller,
30 million shares is great, i bet if you could buy today 2-3 million shares you could probably move us 10% considering the low volume today.
ThemidasTouch,
yep, you can say the buz has worn off, lack of volume says it all buddy.
That is the worst thing that could happen, because with no volume this puppy ain't going nowhere. i believe now that the long are simply trapped here unless some earth shattering news is released and very soon. I believe the gas tank is empty, everybody and his mother has bought.
IS somebody gonna slap the ask or what?
IF BOARD MEMBERS EACH WOULD SLAP THE ASK WITH 10,000 SHARES WE COULD MOVE THIS PUPPY 5%, SO HOW ABOUT IT FOLKS, DO SOMETHING USEFUL INSREAD OF REHASHING THE PAST.
with so many longs here you would think at these prices longs would at least be putting up bids; THAT IS OF COURSE IF THEYARE TRULY LONG !!!!!!!!!!!
TO ALL: SLAP THE ASK TO AVOID OBLIVION
FAITH IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT, LET'S SEE TODAY. I TELL YOU ONE THING; WE BREAK 68 AND I WOULD SAY THE ODDS HAVE DEFINATELY TURNED AGAINST THE LONGS WHETHER ON LOW VOLUME OR NOT.
COACHUM,
THE PROBLEM IS THAT EVERYBODY THAT WANTED TO BUY ALREADY BOUGHT AND THUS THAT IS THE DILEMA. SO NOW YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE LONGS ARE GETTING IMPATIENT AND WOULD LIKE HIGHER PRICES TO EXIT. AND NORMALLY IN THIS SITUATION STAGNATION WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO WHAT I CALL THE " DRIP, DRIP, DRIP ". not a basher here, just that i have seen this before. MIRACLES DO HAPPEN THOUGH, WE'LL SEE.
WHERE ARE THE BULLS TODAY????
VOLUME PATHETIC.
WE NEED SOME KAMAKAZIS TODAY.
CHRISKO,
7'SS WILL NOT BREAK TO THE UPSIDE. POWER11 IS LOOKING TO SHORT.
THE PRESSURE WILL STAY UNTIL LONGS CAPITULATE PERIOD.
SO YOU AND OTHERS CAN SALVAGE WHAT YOU CAN AND WHILE YOU CAN.
MIDASTOUCH,
YOU'RE ON THE MONEY AMOGO, THE FIZZ HAS FIZZELED. I HAVE A WALL HERE FOR THE LONGS. I WILL SHORT AT 74 ANY QUANTITY. PLEASE CHALLENGE ME.
BACK TO 71,POWER11 IS AT WORK
SALVAGE WHAT YOU CAN AND RUN FOR THE HILLS BUDDY, IMMINENT COLLAPSE COMING!!
bigarow,
glad to see you buying buddy. i am trying to short at 73, please buy me!!
Lucky40,
hey bud, looks like your rally is FIZZZING .
MIERTO,
NBG and many other greek banks are looking to hook up with foreign capital and partners. what you fail to understand that is a deal being ENCOURAGED BY THE GERMAN GOVERMENT trying to save face and create a win-win outlook for everybody. I trust my sources on this and it makes sense above all. NBG WILL RUN. WAY UNDERVALUED.
TO ALL,
RUMORS IN ATHENS LATE AFTERNOON THAT DEUTCHBANK IS MULLING A STAKE IN NBG. the chatter that DEUTCHBANK VALUES NBG NET ASSEST AT $4 A SHARE.
YOU ARE GONNA SEE 4'SS THAT 'S FOR SURE, 3'SS MAYBE NEXT WEEK.
WHATEVER DEAD CAT BOUNCE YOU HAD THIS MORNING IS OVER. I SEE 67'ss back on ; selling will resume, run for the hills while you can. it is gonna get UUGLY HERE YES UUGLY WITH DOUBLE UU. MASSACRE WOULD BE A BETTER TERM