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Or that it closed at 911 on September 11, 2002. Two
You're not "hogging," Glen, just sharing...thanks. This is such a manipulated market. I went back and compared all the major turns of DDM and QLD on the 5-min chart during the past three weeks. With all but one exception, they all occurred at literally the same time (give or take a minute or two at most). Da Boyz (lead by GS) have been throwing money at the indexes to create the rallies and sell-offs on a pre-determined timetable. There's nothing random or really news driven about this market (except when they use news as an "excuse" for whatever move, up or down, they've decided on). Nothing in this market is driven by real stock values or fundamentals. It's all driven by Da Boyz and the TARP money. Two
pederpaul, you meant $!34 billion, not $1.3 billion, right? This story has all but dropped off the map, which is to be expected, I guess? I wrote several emails to the editorial page editor at Bloomberg re. this subject. Even sent her several analyses and stories with ideas for follow-up, which never happened. Guess she was bedazzled by the "important news" re. GS's profits and bonuses. Two
Gleno, I'll be watching for 36.20, where I think we're ultimately heading before turning down again. Thanks for your targets. Two
2-bit, my take is that today's action is a reaction to the over-sold condition in all the indexes. My guess is that prices will meander up into tomorrow morning, then slowly turn back down. We could see more downside Thursday afternoon into Friday's close...with a bottom formed then? Two
Hey, Fox. Feeling OK about yesterday's QLD purchase (lol)? Two
blasher, you were wrong! The QQQQs closed at 35 (lol). Great call! Two
It could go either way, couldn't it? Very frustrating, to say the least. The relevant questions are, what indicators do you believe...and how much are you willing to put on the table? Two
Of course not, lol! But I do believe in the ability of GS to manipulate the indexes. It's just all so very contrived. Two
I agree, RCKS, the rally from 3/10 isn't over yet. Once we complete this downleg, prices could go a lot higher. Two
The INDU and NDX bottomed and turned up at almost exactly the same minute this morning. Coincidence? No...a "GS moment." Two
I like that target, RCKS. My guess is that we see the indexes continue this rebound into tomorrow, then drop Thursday and Friday (which is the Bradley turn date). It could be that everything bottoms at Friday's close and up we go again on Monday? Two
Fox and Gleno, you guys are very close with your 35.50/35.63 levels. I'll be watching. Thx. Two
Wish I did, Fox. But at this point, I'm just grateful my position is making money. How 'bout you, any targets in mind? Two
Good move, Fox. I'm with you...at QLD-35.09. Two
That's what I think, RCKS, and I'm holding my longs. Two
LOL, Fox. My fractal extensions are always confused. Two
I was premature. Best to wait until near the close as the daily charts are starting to take on a different perspective now. Let's see what things look like in an hour. Two
RCKS...it makes a market...and it also makes me go insane at times(lol). Two
you...very interesting. Who knows? I only have my charts to follow. There's also a report today re. a U.S. warship intercepting a N. Korean ship. Anything can happen these days. Two
RCKS, allow me to play devil's advocate and say that it doesn't look complete to me at all. I think there's at least one more day of upside ahead...with a possible extension into next Tuesday. JMHO. Two
Your analyses are good, RCKS. Looks to me like the indexes will retrace...but it will be in little spits and spurts. Not great for making money? Two
OT: basserdan, it's getting more interesting now. Turner Radio just had an "urgent" news flash re. the bearer bonds. According to this report, the two Japanese men were employees of Japan's Finance Ministry who were trying to dump the $134 billion in U.S. Treasuries because their government had lost faith in the U.S. "to repay its debts." Two
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Employees of Japan Finance Ministry arrested in Italy trying to smuggle $134 Billion in U.S. Treasuries in suitcases
Friday, 19 June 2009 06:25 TRN Staff **** FLASH TRAFFIC **** URGENT ****
(Turner Radio Network) -- Two Japanese men arrested by Italian Police while trying to smuggle $134 Billion in U.S. Treasury Bonds out of Italy into Switzerland concealed in suitcases, are employees of the Finance Ministry of Japan.
Turner Radio Network has now confirmed the two men arrested by Italy were trying to secretly dump Bonds that were previously being held by the nation of Japan. The men arrested have told Italian police they were ordered to move the Bonds by the government of Japan because the Japanese government has lost faith in the ability of the U.S. government to repay its debts.
Despite assurances from Japanese Finance Minister Kaoru Yosano about Japan's "absolutely unshakable” confidence in the credibility of the U.S. dollar, it is now confirmed based upon the serial numbers of the Bonds, that the $134 Billion is part of the $686 billion of U.S. debt officially held by Japan.
COMMENTARY:
The implications of this situation are monstrous: An ally of the United States has been caught trying to secretly unload U.S. government debt. This is unmistakable proof that the United States government is headed into economic collapse because nations around the world have now officially lost faith in its ability to repay.
The fact that $134 Billion in Bonds was intercepted by Italian Police was confirmed two days ago by Bloomberg Business news (here). Today's erevelation by TRN that the men arrested were employees of the Japan Finance Ministry is a huge development which will cause sudden and dramatic reaction worldwide.
Dan, I saw that. Guess Denninger was right(?). I wouldn't touch this stock with a 10-foot pole. Before yesterday's close, I did my own analysis of RIMM and thought it had the potential to go up, which it did (eventually) as the after-hours period wore on. I remember one time in 2007 when it shot above $100/share in AH trading, then went up another $30 the next morning...only to drop back to under $100. Crazy stock! Two
2-bit, as I review my daily charts, I'm beginning to think you could be correct. This counter-trend rally (to the downtrend established at 6/11's highs) might run a few days more. Is it possible we could see the indexes challenge the closing highs of 6/11-12 between now and next Wednesday? Two
Hey, Dan. You weren't the only one who didn't understand the reaction to RIMM's announcement last night. Karl Denninger had a few interesting things to say about this stock in his column this morning. Two
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This is a stock I steadfastly refuse to trade because of the appearance, to this technician's and analyst's eye, of impropriety.
Notice how in the day or two before each of those gaps the price is moving in the same direction as the gap? This happens from time to time, but when it happens virtually every single time there is a gap in the chart, and the chart is full of gaps like this, you're playing with a jar of nitroglycerin - and, in my opinion, there are too many leaks in the information stream.
You are always trading against other people in the markets, but when it looks like you're also trading against leaks of material information to certain selected people on a consistent basis I want no part of it. Analysis goes right out the window in such a circumstance - while it would appear that you simply "follow the herd" when the gaps are 10% or more moves you're asking to get your head blown off.
Last night the original response to the earnings release was pretty awful with the stock initially trading down to $71.19 on the earnings release. Then the stock started a relentless climb back to essentially unchanged from the close, with many analysts crediting the conference call, and of course this morning there are the expected set of analyst upgrades.
Let's leave aside the usual "herd mentality" games in the analyst community ala 2000-2003, which by the way led people over the cliff. If you're a believer in the meme that the recession is essentially over and that we will return to economic growth (leading to massive unit growth for both consumer and business sales as pent-up demand is released) then you're one of those who thinks that debt doesn't matter and the common law of business balance has been repealed. I wish you the best of luck with that premise; I disagree as my underlying thesis is that irrespective of the attempts of The Fed and others to paper over the bad debt in the system we've reached the limit of being able to play "bubblenomics" for any material amount of time, and that gravity will assert itself sooner rather than later.
Agree...but the selling in earnest isn't happening yet. My guess, based on seeing these bas-turds at work for a long time, is that we'll top out at some point this afternoon. However, I'm always prepared for them to crank up the price to a higher level on Monday morning. I mean, how many times have you seen this happen, right? So, we'll probably crest along with little ups/downs for the rest of the day, go up into the close and perhaps a little higher Monday a.m. Then down hard? Two
I see more QLD upside today, Gleno. Da Boyz are going to squeeze the shorts right into the close, in my opinion. Two
OT: basserdan--here's the latest Bloomberg commentary re. the bearer bonds. Pretty good article. I read another piece that said the Italian authorities don't know where the two Japanese thieves are now. Good police work, right (not)? Two
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Suitcase With $134 Billion Puts Dollar on Edge: William Pesek
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Commentary by William Pesek
June 17 (Bloomberg) -- It’s a plot better suited for a John Le Carre novel.
Two Japanese men are detained in Italy after allegedly attempting to take $134 billion worth of U.S. bonds over the border into Switzerland. Details are maddeningly sketchy, so naturally the global rumor mill is kicking into high gear.
Are these would-be smugglers agents of Kim Jong Il stashing North Korea’s cash in a Swiss vault? Bagmen for Nigerian Internet scammers? Was the money meant for terrorists looking to buy nuclear warheads? Is Japan dumping its dollars secretly? Are the bonds real or counterfeit?
The implications of the securities being legitimate would be bigger than investors may realize. At a minimum, it would suggest that the U.S. risks losing control over its monetary supply on a massive scale.
The trillions of dollars of debt the U.S. will issue in the next couple of years needs buyers. Attracting them will require making sure that existing ones aren’t losing faith in the U.S.’s ability to control the dollar.
The dollar is, for better or worse, the core of our world economy and it’s best to keep it stable. News that’s more fitting for international spy novels than the financial pages won’t help that effort. It is incumbent upon the U.S. Treasury to get to the bottom of this tale and keep markets informed.
GDP Carriers
Think about it: These two guys were carrying the gross domestic product of New Zealand or enough for three Beijing Olympics. If economies were for sale, the men could buy Slovakia and Croatia and have plenty left over for Mongolia or Cambodia. Yes, they could have built vacation homes amidst Genghis Khan’s Gobi Desert or the famed Temples of Angkor. Bernard Madoff who?
These men carrying bonds concealed in the bottom of their luggage also would be the fourth-largest U.S. creditors. It makes you wonder if some of the time Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner spends keeping the Chinese and Japanese invested in dollars should be devoted to well-financed men crossing the Italian-Swiss border.
This tale has gotten little attention in markets, perhaps because of the absurdity of our times. The last year has been a decidedly disorienting one for capitalists who once knew up from down, red from black and risk from reward. It almost fits with the surreal nature of today that a couple of travelers have more U.S. debt than Brazil in a suitcase and, well, that’s life.
Clancy Bestseller
You can almost picture Tom Clancy sitting in his study thinking: “Damn! Why didn’t I think of this yarn and novelize it years ago?” He could have sprinkled in a Chinese angle, a pinch of Russian intrigue, a dose of Pyongyang and a bit of Taiwan-Strait tension into the mix. Presto, a sure bestseller.
Daniel Craig may be thinking this is a great story on which to base the next James Bond flick. Perhaps Don Johnson could buy the rights to this tale. In 2002, the “Miami Vice” star was stopped by German customs officers as he was traveling in a car carrying credit notes and other securities worth as much as $8 billion. Now he could claim it was all, uh, research.
When I first heard of the $134 billion story, I was tempted to glance at my calendar to make sure it didn’t read April 1.
Let’s assume for a moment that these U.S. bonds are real. That would make a mockery of Japanese Finance Minister Kaoru Yosano’s “absolutely unshakable” confidence in the credibility of the U.S. dollar. Yosano would have some explaining to do about Japan’s $686 billion of U.S. debt if more of these suitcase capers come to light.
‘Kennedy Bonds’
Counterfeit $100 bills are one thing; two guys with undeclared bonds including 249 certificates worth $500 million and 10 “Kennedy bonds” of $1 billion each is quite another.
The bust could be a boon for Italy. If the securities are found to be genuine, the smugglers could be fined 40 percent of the total value for attempting to take them out of the country. Not a bad payday for a government grappling with a widening budget deficit and rebuilding the town of L’Aquila, which was destroyed by an earthquake in April.
It would be terrible news for the White House. Other than the U.S., China or Japan, no other nation could theoretically move those amounts. In the absence of clear explanations coming from the Treasury, conspiracy theories are filling the void.
On his blog, the Market Ticker, Karl Denninger wonders if the Treasury “has been surreptitiously issuing bonds to, say, Japan, as a means of financing deficits that someone didn’t want reported over the last, oh, say 10 or 20 years.” Adds Denninger: “Let’s hope we get those answers, and this isn’t one of those ‘funny things’ that just disappears into the night.”
This is still a story with far more questions than answers. It’s odd, though, that it’s not garnering more media attention. Interest is likely to grow. The last thing Geithner and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke need right now is tens of billions more of U.S. bonds -- or even high-quality fake ones -- suddenly popping up around the globe.
(William Pesek is a Bloomberg News columnist. The opinions expressed are his own.)
To contact the writer of this column: William Pesek in Tokyo at wpesek@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: June 16, 2009 15:00 EDT
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Hey, RCKS, good call yesterday about today's market action. It took guts to hold long NDX positions overnight, particularly with RIMM's after-hours price drop. It recovered, fortunately. Two
Hey, 2-bit. Last time I looked, RIMM was only down about 40 cents. Earlier, it had been down about $5/share. Someone's buying it. NM may do all right? Two
Dan, when I was a boy, my older brothers had a collection of comics (Superman, Batman, etc.) dating back to 1938. It was a collection we all cherished, of course. But they all disappeared one year. Not sure, but my mom probably decided they had to go? It was such a tragedy (lol). Two
Very helpful and very well done charts, thank you. Do you follow a daily RIMM chart, as well? Looking at the daily chart gives me a much different impression of what could happen...like, say, tomorrow. Happy trails. Two
Hey, smilinghiker, what's your take re. RIMM? As I look at the stock, it's been down five straight days and everything on my charts suggests it's about to go ballistic. I don't follow this company, so perhaps my analysis is terribly wrong? Your thoughts, please. TIA. Two
You may want to take a minute and read this study, which claims that negative divergences usually result in higher prices (not the reverse). You don't suppose Da Boyz have built up myths re. negative divergences just to fool most traders, do you (lol)? Two
http://thetechnicaltakedotcom.blogspot.com/
RCKS, my charts think we'll correct a portion of the decline from the highs on 6/11, and probably do so this week. The paranoid side of my nature thinks Da Boyz have slowed down the pace for a reason. Perhaps they need RIMM to get the juices flowing again? Two
Excellent, hiker. I guess we'll either get a good rimm-job or ream-job (lol)? This stock usually gets pumped, however, and has caused many a rally, as I know you are aware. Two
Gleno, where are you today? It feels almost like a "Fed Day." QLD moves up a cent or two, falls a cent or two, up a cent or two.... Are we waiting for an announcement? Pinch me or I'll fall asleep. Two
Good point, rich. Perhaps no crime committed? But the question remains re. why they had the counterfeit bearer bonds? And who's doing the counterfeiting? And where were the bearer bonds being taken...for what purposes (to be sold or traded)...and who would have benfited? Certainly a sufficient number of questions to warrant holding the two Japanese men. Two
Amazing, isn't it, basserdan, that the two Japanese thieves werent' held and charged, or that it took so long for our government to identify the bearer bonds as fakes, or that no one seems to care that there's a descrepancy between what our government says is the total amount of outstanding bearer bonds and what the Italian police discovered? I guess our government thinks this story will go away if it sticks its head in the sand and says little or nothing? Two