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Great post. I believe this one is ligit. I agree with you if you raise any concern you get put down but I think this is fairly common on these boards after the stock gets noticed. The people that get in it in the last few weeks just want to protect their investment. Little do they release they do not influence the stock that much here on the board. People that bought in in the .04+ range are the first ones to jump on anyone that raises concerns to be discussed intelligently that they feel is negative. They drink the kool aid and cannot discuss any conerns you might have. These are the people that never call the company. I was on the phone today with the company. I have talked to the 8-10 times in the last 6 months. I have a good feeling on this company. You never know for sure with a pinkie the supposedly honest CEO could get greedy and dump shares at anytime or work with shorts to make money at the expense of the shareholders. It is always the Wild West here on the pink sheets.
I agree on vspc - it did geat today ready to run - it has biomass grass and small fuel cells for handheld electronics.
Have you read Cohen Research on the stk??
Oh I forgot to add I have been asked by the company on how they could better communicate with the shareholders. They have different ideas so they are interested in getting better as a company. It is amazing what you can learn from a company when you call them and discuss issues intelligently with them.
This company does want to get better.
Good post. I have been burned bad on a couple pinkies before and this is a good one just want them to get better with each day. You have to question things to get better and perform better each day. So if someone at your occupations states something that is of a concern do you ignore them and say he is a bad person or do you think about it and how it might save your life on the next call to get better????
I talked to shareholders on the phone and on my email. I talk to about 6-8 shareholders regularly in this manner that I keep private. These people have my concerns - sorry I needed to be more specific that the shareholders I talk to in private. That is my mistake for not making it clear so I will put you down as not one of them when righting future postings.
Great post. If you ask any questions of concern that they think it is negative then you are basher. I think you are right the expectations are really high here and as you point out it is still a pinkie. I like the way you think. They are always the first to call you a basher but never pick up the phone to call the company to get it first from the horses mouth. I always find it fascinating they name call but never call the company. It like they do not have enough money for the phone call. You can really judge a company by talking to them. It is one of my DD that I do. First they need to talk to you second they need to know what they are talking about. Usually if they do answer they have a kid that knows nothing but tells you the party line. These calls tell a lot about a company. When i call this one they talk to you and know what they are talking about but it is still a pinkie like you say.
I have been thinking the same thing but would not put it up on the bd because they would call me a basher. You are rt you buy on the rumor and sell on the news at first. I think we might get a sell off because there is such a high expectation fr the stk on this bd that the people that bought recently will probably sell out. I wish I had a ton of spare cash to buy if this happens. When the bd talks like this the opposite can happen. Then the strong win by holding on and buying more when the sell off occurs.
Ya I called the company a couple of times on that one. I talked to Robert about the problem with the PR and the concerns the shareholders had. I left a message to Syms too. I am not saying I made any difference but Robert said he likes to hear the concerns of the shareholders. I think they handled that one well. They realized if not addressing it head on they would look like all the rest of the pinkies out there.
So then you are saying the 15th is the date they should have used?? Like saying on or around the 15th?? Interesting
Then do not put a date out. If you do then give an update that things are going well and it is taking a little longer than we thought. Wen I tell a customer on or around a certain date I better update them if I have not delivered on my words after a couple of days. How do you handle your customers to keep them coming back?
How do you know today is the day??Inside infor??
Well I think this topic is more important that complaining about MMs and this and that order is not getting filled because of them. In most cases it has to do with buying and selling demand when the order gets filled. They are the market markers and it is their job to stablize the market in the security they handle. There are cases where the MMs are screwing around with the stk but if you think they are then I would like to have been in others stks I have been in when off shore shorting was going on. So if they are playing any games here it is nothing compared to others. I am not worried I just want them to be a great co. I am in at @ .0044 for almost 2M. So I am in it for the long haul.
It about being transparent and above the rest of the pinkies. I think within a day or so they owe us something. If not they will not be as tranparent as they are trying to convey.
I did call the company unfortunely I was not able to get hold of Robert. He is usually in by 9:00 AM EST. I was wondering if any others have called. He does like to hear shareholders concerns. I have you ever talked to him or any others at the co.?? I have talked to the co. about 8-10 times in the last 4-5 months.
Has anyone called the company to ask when we will have an update. The last PR stated on Oct 1 or around it there would be the new CEO? I am wonder why we have not heard anything by now.
Email me at gibber12003@yahoo.com I would like to talk about this off line.
Good pt. I think things have changed recently. You might be right. Some large corp might now really see the hidden value of this company. This might be a reason for the delay. Usually when a CEO change you get a PR confirming it.
The PR stated new CEO on or around Oct 1 so Oct5th is getting past the term around Oct 1st - seems to me there might be a problem. I asked has anyone called the company to confirm why we have not had confirmation of the new CEO in place.
Has anyone called the company to find out why it is taking so long to formalize the CEO change?? Any problems??
So the city called you???
One of the best explanations I have heard. Could it be the company was so smart that they were able to get all of the traders out of the stk and reduce the price so their buddies could buy at a good price?? What does FTD stand for - 3 day delivery requirement. I tell you these guys that run this company are so smart. Smarter than the pinkie crooks out there.
That is a good sign - imo it meanns new investors with money are coming in before the news is released
Best policy never lend money to friend & relatives and never get them into stocks you recommend. There is a possibility that EVRM might not move after good news. Then you will feel terrible. If it does not move then there is something the market ddoes not like. I think this is slim but it is a pinkie and the past history could turn off new investors. There has been no real volume which does bother me. I think people expect too much out of this stk and when the news comes out and if there is no good movement there could be a good sell off and I think the MMs are hoping for that. Your friends might end up being sellers at a loss. I never recommend stks to people that do not invest for a living or follow the markets almost daily.
I do not have pm so email me at gibber12003@yahoo.com
If they give out a pr for sym before he leaves it will be small compared to the ones that will come whe richard takes over
When the news comes out. They are not going to put out any news until Richard takes over. IMO the reason is they want all of the good news to be associated with a new person with a clean pass to help pull in new investors. Sym is a good person but is tainted a little from the passed - not his fault. We just have to wait to get significant information.
This site shows 80,900 shares shorted. So does the SHO mean that there are not enugh in the float available to cover them?
http://www.shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=evrm&submit=Short+Quote%99
I agree these are smart guys. How many pinkies get Harvard guys running the company. They know the market and how to put them at the top of the list by being a SDVOSB and wanting to be a prime contractor. I believe when they are a prime in some cases I believe they can get 6% of contracts this way - double dipping instead of just 3%. These guys are so far ahead of their competition and it will show soon.
The bottom line is to get institutional investors in this stk and most cannot invest in pinks. There are very few that will but most do not because their insurance will not cover pinkies recommended to clients. I am trying to get this investment house out here to look at it. We need an analyst to cover the stk - non paid analyst. The uplisting is really important. If it has blow out earnings then some heads will turn. I think this will happen. Just the comments from the co. when you talk to them it seems the 3rd qtr earnings release should turn some heads.
I have personally mentioned the stock to the investment bank here in SF.
It is high but if their technology becomes the std like msft software for the pc it is possible.I guess we have to wait and see if it is that good and is the std. You msft's software was not the best but they some how got IBM (i think to use it in the PC first) to use it first and it created the std. I hope this is the msft story over again but with better stuff.
There was a forecast that biometrics would be 7.5B by 2012. So I think if they get 10% of the market they can be a 1B co. within 2-3 yrs. I think they will be around 500M by the end of next yr. I am guessing they will have booked between 100-200M by the end of this yr.
So are you saying that it will be around 500M revenue at 25% net profit with a 40 PE to get to a $4.00+ stk??
So how big do you think the company will be by the end of next yr??
The question will be if market will classify the company as a software company or a military co. If it is classified as a software co. then a pe will be higher like 25. Also if its earnings are growing 50-100% per yr then a higher pe will be given the co. This will be better valued once it is off the pink sheets. Until then you might be right to use the military pe.
Where is it?? I cannot find him.
So what size contracts do you think we will see?? What is your feeling on total dollars of contracts by yrs end??
What was the volume that pushed to the close. Looks like maybe a pr is coming.
One $1 is possile
ifthey have 150-200M of business committed by yrs end for next yr. Those guys are basing it on these numbers. They think they soo much more business then were are hearing and basing things on now. At 150M @ 25% you get 37.5 M profit divide 1.15B and you get .032 times by 25 pe and you get .81 cents stk price at 200M revenue you get over $1 stk price. I believe once 3rd qtr earnings come out and the margins are verified with past contracks then with future contracts announced the market will fairly value the stk.
Based on 1.15B and net 10M profit I get .21 per share. This is worth at least .25 by the end of the yr or sooner.