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I agree completely..
"Opinions that posters write on BBs and what the company publicly says are held to two completely different standards..."
I only find it odd that you use that standard when one poster says they heard the numbers were $4-$6 million and you corrected him by the CC tape..What I don't see is any correction by you of the countless posts that state that the management sold their restricted common shares which by the same CC tape JD states just as clearly they haven't sold and they won't for up to two years..That if they sold they would have to notify the SEC who would then notify us..Opinions are just that opinions as you say..
I do have a question for you..Why in one post you tell another poster that he should beware of buying the stock on faith over facts on Wednesday of this week ..
"When investment decisions have to be made on *faith* over facts... buyer beware!"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51627623
and then turn around on Friday and post this to 4kds..
"Here's the problem... the last 2 trades of the day are mine and they are buys..."
"What are the ramifications of them apples?"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51634999
I would really like to know why your sentiment must of changed rapidly and you now believe that EXPH is a buy??? veno
SB..Since what is being quoted publicly
by the company is now being taken as gospel..Wouldn't you say that posting that the management sold their common restricted shares as also being "disengenuous"..Just a reminder..on that same tape of the CC..JD was quoted as saying that none of the converted preferred shares had been sold..That included management and CM..There was a question asked about why the share count went from I believe at the time was 540 million to 980 million..The reply was that it was from the preferred shares being converted to restricted common shares..Notice that the term "restricted" was used..JD went on to add that at no time had any of them sold one share and that they had no plans to do so for the next two years..He also added that if they sold those shares that they would have to file with the SEC,,who would then report it to us..
So..if he said $6 million was doable and that is what you will accept..then I would say that none of the preferred shares that were converted have been sold or will be sold for the term given..
I too have heard the $4-$6 million range used several times..It would be interesting to find out where it first started and from what source it came..
IMO..If the company did $4 million last year..I would be quite happy...veno
The tech doesn't need supported..It is 100%
automated..As you would say..
All aboard!! that is when you haven't already sold your shares..
You must be looking to buy more as per your many requests for news..Do your own DD as I do...veno
You are correct..I don't agree with your
perceptions or speculations about why the company hasn't filed..You can sure have fun though guessing why the company hasn't filed yet..I will await the filings and the current status coming as your speculation holds no water with me..In the interim..I will not join the traders who post negative..speculative..libelous statements while buying shares at the same time..The same who resort to juvenile name calling when someone doesn't agree with them..
As I said..this is a chat board and not an investment forum..I am quite happy with my investment in EXPH and I can wait for the transparency to come...veno
Like I said..you give too much credit to
this chat board..I see lots of accusations against JD in your post..Well he stepped down..so as you would say..get over it..That said if every member of this thread would have held the fire to his feet..nothing would have changed..As I said..you give to much credit to the venue..The majority shareholders which don't include you or me have the final say..Yes some investors can ask for updates and beg for filings..but it comes down to the management and their overall decision on what they will do..If you want to run a company get one of your own..as a minority shareholder you have no say..I guess since I own Disney..I could get the management there to do my bidding as well..
I remember the PR about the company taking action against certain shareholders and their libelous statements..I have a feeling that has not come to a conclusion yet..In fact I believe that it still an ongoing event yet to come..
As far as TDA..I actually liked the fact that some that were manipulating the stock with that broker had to move on elsewhere..You keep saying that the stock has lost over 90%..That is a fact..It also gained just as much and more on the run-up..I can't tell you how to trade..but I have not lost 90% of my holdings in this company..
The Lowes deal seems to be ongoing..
The Stanley deal was completed. as per the Stanley rep....
I don't see the contradictions..I see negative posters that are still buying shares as per recent posts..Now there is the true contradiction..
As I said before I can wait for the filings and the date that was given SEPT 1st..I also expect much more before then..As far as JD..he is co-vice president now and a salesman for the company..So once again as you have said..Get over it..I await the naming of the new CEO and what his plans are for the company..The past is just that..the past...veno
Really??
"The *Pied Piper* advocates for EXPH who see-no-evil , hear-no-evil , and heaven forbid speak-no-evil of EXPH enables the company to still file NOTHING ....well , except for the dilutive Form D ."
You give this forum too much credit..It is a chat board and it is well represented by the negative posters all clustered at the top..You would think with that much pressure the company would roll over and follow a few posters wishes..Think again..The company will file when they are ready and not when a few posters on a chat board want them too..Everyone is waiting for the filings and the transparency to come..Your post calling investors that back the company "*Pied Piper advocates" does nothing to stop positive opinions being stated here..The company has given a date publicly when they expect to be current in their filings..I expect we will get much more before then including the name of the new CEO and more on the revenue increases coming from the new acquisition..I also expect to see that etc has landed a retail seller of the cabinets on or before that date..
The date given was Sept 1st..
Last year they filed the yearly in July..With the transitioning of the acquisition and the new CEO..I can wait for the transparency..If you want to call posters pied pipers advocates go ahead..You are the head admin here..I would expect nothing less from this venue..
On a side note..There is over 1.6 billion shares oustanding..I would say that the majority owners who are holding those shares..which doesn't include this forum of posters has the most impact on what and when events happen..By the volume we have seen and the steady accumulation..I don't see them running for the doors because the company hasn't posted their filings yet...veno
Iris and the remote email feature are still
up and running in Mexico and India..
https://www.telnor.com/index.php?
https://www.telnor.com/iris
http://delhi.mtnl.net.in/
http://mobilevoice.mtnldelhi.in/
Ivoice is still running at SCC..
http://www.scwireless.com/cellular/
Icap is still working on the patent sale and the company is still working towards the rollout with the large prepaid carrier..
The company is not dead as some would claim and companies are still using the tech...veno
It has everything to do with the broker..
The broker is the custodian of the shares in your account..The fact that TDA couldn't even come up with 3 million shares out of all the shares that traders say they had at the time says it all..I know of at least one trader that complained over and over again that they couldn't buy more back then and said that they had millions of shares...veno
SBB you are now misquoting posters..
Your post goes on and on about over trading the buy side..You even quoted from my post while changing the wording..
"Overtrading the buy side (of EXPH's stock)"????
where as you can see..that is not what I said..
"I'll go with what was also reported from TDA..
That they were closing down the buy side because of over trading the stock..I am glad at least one broker stopped the game playing.."
Now why would you want to misquote my post??
From now on..if you are going to take a quote from a post..please do so correctly..
If you want the information of private communications..then I would suggest you trace back over the posts at that time and find where that was posted..
Again I am glad that at least one broker got tired of the game playing and that some where stopped from the practice of over trading..The company by asking for the certificates when seeking the share count put a stop to it..plain and simple..
Yes..I am sure that EXPH is legit and that TDA was aware that there was no "very real improprieties in EXPH's business practices" as you state..
In fact..could you vet your statement that TDA believes what you posted?? It would be nice to see some proof of your wild accusations which border on libeling the company...veno
I'll go with what was also reported from TDA..
That they were closing down the buy side because of over trading the stock..I am glad at least one broker stopped the game playing..BofA / Merril Lynch doesn't have problem allowing buys of EXPH..If they don't have a problem neither do I..Hopefully some other discount brokers stop the game playing as well..as it would seem some still are playing the game..
Talk to you after some good news hits and you're behind the company again..We all know how the mood shifts very quickly here..at least for some...veno
I agree completely..
"we'll all know .. on 9/2/10 if full transparency is a FACT
"i have no issues patiently biding my time"..
The same thing happened last year and the wait for the filings were actually backed by the same crowd that are now demanding them..The company did file and more importantly as you state they stayed in business..Now we see they have a new product and have acquired a new business line of cabinets and their management..I also agree that etc will be a big game changer when the first retailer shows up..I expect that the wait for that to be short..The company isn't ramping up etc production for looks..I look forward to all the coming events and again thanks for all you do...veno
Really??
You say that there is no manipulation by traders..Well I have proof in PM's that prove otherwise..Since you are now an assistant..maybe you would like to see a post or two that shows that manipulation publicly if allowed..Give me the go ahead and I will be happy to post one that will prove my point..I believe that will never happen because they go against the rules here..I wonder why?? LOL..The SEC already has them and that is all that really matters..IMO..EXPH is legit and they will file and become current in those filings..The new CEO will also continue that transparency which doesn't play into the hands of those that are manipulating the pps...veno
I'll go with option (A)..
I know for a fact that manipulation by traders is taking place here..
However..I don't agree there is no apparent motive as you say..The motive has been clear for a very long time..That motive is to make money using any means..
Some say it doesn't take rocket science to figure out..Heck..a first grader can figure it out just from reading posts both public and private..certainly when certain posters brag about it..
Along with several others here..I look forward to what is coming to put an end or at least slow down this manipulation..Thanks for the options...veno
I agree..
There is wash selling going on..It is good of you to admit that it is happening..IMO..Time to cover on the the short selling that has been happening is also running out..EXPH says they expect to be current with their filings by the Sept 1st shareholder's meeting..I would expect that we will hear much more from both the new company's additions and from etc and who will be selling etc in store before then..GLTA..To each their own...veno
Oh and Bill Gates
and Microsoft don't get press for their donations?? LOL..Money well spent for a good cause IMO and a tax write off on top of it..
Well you can take that up with a broker..
My broker did not like what he saw and he called them on it..He also looked at the public and broker side and confirmed what I said..As most people in the penny trades do their trading online..they don't see what the broker sees..I just happened to have a broker that does look into what is going on..Like I said he did not like what he saw with my trade on EXPH and he turned it into the proper authorities..How is there to be any checks and balances of trading if traders don't ask questions when they are warranted..I am sure you are aware of the times that these trading venues have been found guilty of manipulation..I do not keep my head in the sand when I know that something isn't right..I get answers and I get that information to people that do oversee trading..As far as EXPH is concerned I know for a fact that there has been trading that has been manipulated and so does my broker..Have a great day...veno
You bring up a good point
and my broker was not happy when the trade for EXPH I placed through them was not shown by nite after he placed it twice..This resulted in a phone call to nite before they showed my order..At the time the bid and ask they were showing the public was .0005 by .0006 while they were hiding from the public .0005 by .0007 which they were quoting to the other brokers..I also agree that there is manipulation of the trading here that will be hard pressed to continue after new CEO comes on board and I believe that person has already been picked and is being made aware of the trading antics here..IMO legitimacy of the company is not even a question and with projected revenues becoming a reality the pps will take care of itself...Thanks again...veno
Nice call on the tap..
I also look forward to the new CEO coming on and the current status being shown for this company..I do believe you are correct and material events will transpire before the meeting so that the new CEO can start from a very positive position..Thanks for the information daily that you post here...veno
I agree completely Wattamarune..
Selling the patents was to take months not weeks..ICAP is still working with the companies in question to sell them..We are not talking small companies that decide these matters quickly..With the patents there is the infringing companies to be considered..Anyone that is down 90-95% hasn't averaged down and that is their choice..Buying the shares with a limit attached shows up as a sell..I like getting cheap shares...veno
I guess if manipulation makes it goes up..
then we should have manipulation daily..LOL..By the way Dean says that the patent sale is still being worked on by ICAP and that the US carrier hasn't gone away..I'll check back Monday to see if any more manipulation has happened...veno
Really..
"Another good one is to always take profits off the table whenever you get a chance"..
You may want to pass that by the really big investors that invest for long term growth and don't play the day to day pps fluxuations..You know who they are..They are the richest investors in the world..
Playing the day to day swings has been a proven loser..because most of the daytraders and flippers don't just play one stock..they play many..They don't always win and as all the boiler room trading closures proved..most of the traders lost everything..
I'll stick with the long term approach as I have for years..EXPO is growing and I plan on growing my investment along with them..Oh and the argument about the company not raising the OS was with ETC being placed privately..AS increases don't bother me if needed to grow the company..I am averaged in nicely now for the long term growth I expect from EXPO and gains from EXPH..I could care less about the day to day pps swings created by traders...veno
Just like your calculations were
proven wrong by your own DD before you found out the truth last time..Or at least wanted the truth to come out..The numbers you are posting are nothing but pure conjecture..Like I asked before..do you have any proof that these shares were not restricted shares sold at .001 as were the last ones were?? Your guesses don't count based on the timing and calculation of numbers in PRs as was proven last time..ouch!..as you would say..
$2-$3 projected revenue by the shareholder's meeting from aquiring BC and the ramp up of production..IMO..Cash..credit and shares well spent to grow the company..Catch everyone Monday as an extended weekend break will be had by at least one long investor in EXPH...veno
Really??
"I expect to see the pump get turned on in earnest now so that those that got these discounted shares can turn and dump them as soon as possible."
I can remember the posts about the last discounted shares being done at .0001 only later to find that they were done at .001..When were those restricted shares dumped?? Do you know for a fact that these shares were not also bought for .001 and restricted?? I'll await your actual DD on that this time or you can get it from itrader who provided the correct answer last time..
The company is using their line of credit and shares for more orders..I also remember just recently being asked if they got the credit, why haven't they used it..as a negative post about the company working with a bank that went BK.. Asked and answered..
Next up $2-$3 million in revenue for a few months of work..a current status listing and a new CEO..I can wait for them all to materialize...veno
Thanks..I am glad that you agree with me
that the company is growing and that doubling the sales will result in only good news for the longs...veno
Posted by: venomen2002 Date: Friday, June 11, 2010 1:54:57 PM
In reply to: Lurker from Mars who wrote msg# 73004 Post # of 73382
SO?? LOL.. the numbers were $260k short term
and $2-$3 million over two months..not the $200k you mis-quoted..The company is reducing debt..You have no idea if $2-$3 million in revenue will result in a profitible quarter..yet you state it as a fact going on previous filings..Your speculation is just that until we see the numbers..The move to aquire BC and grow the company was a good move IMO..projected doubling sales from the $9-$11 million estimate cannot be a bad thing as well..
You mean the PP investors are selling their .001 shares at these levels?? LOL..Thanks for that and thanks for previously confirming that all PP shares are being bought at .001...veno
I read it the first time..
I don't accept the apology..
"Also suggest you carefully reassess your position and do NOT "comment" further on this subject if you catch my drift. IMHO."
My position is that I own shares and continue to buy more..
I see you are posting that EXPO is undercutting other bidders by 25% so that they can get contracts with LOWES..Stanley and more..Can we please see a link to the contracts you must have been privy to..to make that guess??
The company is growing its employees..its products and management has said they are paying down debt..The company says they and are adding the needed material to expand production with shares and cash..
"By utilizing funds raised publicly, as well as funds from cash flow, the company has acquired an additional finishing booth to assist the company with it's upcoming finished product demand. This finishing booth measures approximately 13ft Wide X 23ft Deep. Products such as ETC. face frames and doors will be finished in this booth, along with other custom type products. This spray booth will increase the company's capacity to levels acceptable for increased finished product production. The booth is on site now, and the company anticipates installation in the very near future."
It also looks like they are on track for the $2-3 million dollars in sales mentioned by August..
"The company continues to ramp up production with an expected $50,000 in shipments to be made in the remainder of this week. The company continues to expect accelerated growth for the next 60-90 business days and will update shareholders accordingly. Demand appears to be stabilizing for D&D Displays, Etc. Cabinetry, and our newest brand Cima."..
The long awaited financials look to be coming on or before Sept 1st..at which time the company says it will be current with their filings and they will introduce mamagement..Can't wait to see who the new CEO is..
Expo Holdings, Inc. Announces Shareholder Meeting
Expo Holding Inc (OTC) (USOTC:EXPH)
Intraday Stock Chart
Today : Wednesday 16 June 2010
"Expo Holdings, Inc. (PINK SHEETS: EXPH - News), formally invites all shareholders to a formal shareholder meeting to be held September 1, 2010. The meeting will be held at 116 Shaver St., North Wilkesboro, 28659."
"Management introductions, a review of financial status, a review of business plans, and a shareholder question and answer session, will be conducted. Shareholders will be able to tour our facility and meet our team. Meeting notes will be available afterwards on the company’s website."
"The company expects replacement of the stop icon on pinksheets.com with a yield sign, and further expects a current status to be achieved on or before September 1, 2010."
Like I said..my position is that the company is growing and they are ramping up for that growth..That is why I continue to buy shares...veno
You thought it would be funny to post the name
of a failed bank that is not associated with EXPO to prove a point?? Nope..I believe it was to purposely mislead investors here and you got called on it..The facts remain..The banks back EXPO..Companies like LOWEs..Stanley..Rubbermaid..and many others do business with the company..
Sorry..your post was not done tongue in cheek and was not done to counter purposeful misinformation..Apology not accepted..
How about sticking to the facts..
John Butler, VP Sales, The Stanley works, commented:
2/2/2010 10:01:41 AM
"D&D did a great job, and we appreciate their dedication to our project, and to our company. D&D was very quick and responsive when additional needs came up. I look forward to working with them again in the future."
Now about the update today..I hope everyone noticed that not only will the stop sign be removed to yeild but that the company is expecting a "current status" to be in effect by 9-1-10..Seems we will see much more than anticipated..I do believe A new CEO has been picked and that the company will be announcing who that is before that date..Great news today..I can wait...veno
I Still agree..even though you don't now
"One cannot get better news releases than Blue Chip Lowes , Stanley Tool , Black & Decker , Newell Rubbermaid , Bosch , and other Industry Leader pronouncements . I was hooked by those earth-shattering news releases ,"
I am still hooked..It is great that the company can and does do business with those big names..Maybe they know more than some posters here do about the quality of work being done and the amount of work which seems to be growing..It is a shame that just because the company is doing what they did last year and are waiting to file..which I can't seem to find anyone against it last year..the anger has risen by some..
It is also interesting that the same ones who said it was no big deal last year demand it now..We all want to see the filings..but to say the company is bad because they are doing what they did last year is wrong..Oh and Renee..The run-up last year happened in anticipation of the new line coming..I was here..I watched the traders posts and I watched them buy up the shares along with the longs and sell on the news when it came out just like every other stock..Buy on the rumor sell on the news..So that short lived run-up..which it was..was not orchestrated by the management as you say..but by the traders..Read the posts..look at the pps climb and dive..The company did what they said they would do..They announced the new line..It wasn't because the majority didn't like the news..It was the majority..traders..did what they always do and sold on the news..Since then it has been pure manipulation by the traders..Read the posts..Oh by the way..I am glad I got in and I am glad I am still buying shares at such a low pps in this legitimate company...veno
So which is it..Back then you gave us two choices..
"Their vetting process is extensive and EXPH would not have been able to secure such a line of credit unless they were 1) completely legitimate and growing their business or 2) pulling a con job with someone on the inside. I will go with the former and much more rational scenario in this particular instance, lol."
SBB
This while you were buying shares you later sold..
So now you are saying that the company was pulling a con job with someone on the inside?? LOL..
You ask people to vet their posts with proof..You posted that you vetted the bank and that "EXPH" (sic) EXPO would not be able to get credit with them unless they were legitimate..The company says they got the credit line..Are you now saying they didn't??Are you saying the company lied about getting the credit in the first place?? If so can you please vet that information?? If not..I will go with the more rational scanario as you posted before..Unless we are now talking in non-rational terms.. or just making WAGs...veno
Like I said..I will go with the rational vetted
conclusion you made and which you agreed with as still being the only vetted proof of anything you have offered..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=41290643
"I had spoken with the bank earlier about the "line of credit" issue and while they will not discuss any details on their situation with an individual client, the bank is legitimate and they do provide genuine "lines of credit" to many start up businesses like EXPH. Their vetting process is extensive and EXPH would not have been able to secure such a line of credit unless they were 1) completely legitimate and growing their business or 2) pulling a con job with someone on the inside. I will go with the former and much more rational scenario in this particular instance, lol."
SBB
You are correct..opinions can change but a fact is a fact and your post about the bank is a fact..unless you lied about contacting them..The company is growing by adding more employees..more products and more equipment..Unless you have a link to that not happening..again you have no proof to back up your opinion that they are not growing...veno
You guess wrong..LOL..eom
The company is growing in this economy..
They are bringing on new admin..sales people and other employees to help with that growth..They have added a new spray booth and have hired a company to outsource parts for etc for mass production..By their own admission they have used shares and cash for the purpose of growing the company..
Given the above..it would seem that the posts reflecting that the company is in business to give perks to only the management is without merit or proof..The premise in these opinions is that the management has set up a scam where they know they can get these perks by selling their products for a loss..
Let's see..the management only wants to line their own pockets by selling shares..yet they get companies like LOWES to buy their products..They aquire another company to come over to make products for a loss to line their own pockets and they are paying off debt at the same time..
These statements from a non investor that has not offered proof of anything and says the posts are purely opinion..
I would say the opinion is way off target since the poster did take the time in the beginning to vet the banks that are backing the company..
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=41290643
"I had spoken with the bank earlier about the "line of credit" issue and while they will not discuss any details on their situation with an individual client, the bank is legitimate and they do provide genuine "lines of credit" to many start up businesses like EXPH. Their vetting process is extensive and EXPH would not have been able to secure such a line of credit unless they were 1) completely legitimate and growing their business or 2) pulling a con job with someone on the inside. I will go with the former and much more rational scenario in this particular instance, lol."
SBB
If EXPH is good enough for the banks that this poster vetted..I'll take their word on legitmacy of the company and not a new opinion of a scenario that goes against all that we know...veno
SO?? LOL.. the numbers were $260k short term
and $2-$3 million over two months..not the $200k you mis-quoted..The company is reducing debt..You have no idea if $2-$3 million in revenue will result in a profitible quarter..yet you state it as a fact going on previous filings..Your speculation is just that until we see the numbers..The move to aquire BC and grow the company was a good move IMO..projected doubling sales from the $9-$11 million estimate cannot be a bad thing as well...veno
The PR said $260K..$2-$3 million by August..
"This is BC orders and worth $200k"
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=43067897&symbol=NO%5EEXPH
"The company is moving rapidly to fill orders related to the Builders Choice agreement. Approximately $260,000 in orders is at some stage of our operational process. Expected delivery of two small orders is scheduled for this week, with several larger orders expected next week. The company expects to complete most of these orders within 30 business days. Additional residential related orders are in house and scheduled for later dates. More residential related orders are expected in the same 30-business day period as the cycle of measurements, in-home presentations, confirmation of design, and selling opportunities continue."
"Installation of our new spray booth is progressing and should be completed this week."
"The company anticipates total company sales of two to three million dollars from now until August 31st. The company cautions shareholders that sales are a moving target and sales may move up into a shorter period or back into later months depending on our customers needs. This limited forecast is provided based on management’s best estimates."
Really??
"Well, March has come and gone. Along with April, May and 1/3 of June and still no bid, no sale, no takers"
And you know this how?? They are not offering the patents to one company..The list is big and some of the players are big..You have no idea if some of those companies have already submitted bids..Since all of the companies are allowed to bid..I would believe they all have to either bid or say no before they close the sale..In any case..Your post is always pure speculation and again wrong on many counts...veno
First of all the links shows earnings to
June of 2009..it isn't the yearly..Why it was posted is anyone's guess..It is also just a financial statement that Yahoo puts out from information they get from filings..Like I said..they filed the yearly for 2008 in July of 2009..I am looking for them to repeat that scenario again and if the first link is correct..that is what they are planning to do..If not..I will be asking what the delay is..I would also like to get an update before the second quarter is due out on if they are hitting their estimates of revenues with BC on board...veno
If is all is doom and gloom..
why are you still seeking updates daily?? You sold for a loss..No one told you to buy and no one told you to sell..I still like my chances here on the patent sale..Why are you still saying abandon ship?? You already did..I for one will hold and continue to buy more when I see fit..I will also sell when I see fit without the direction of those that sold for a loss..GLTY in your other trades...veno
So you believe that this company will never be profitable?? You believe they are a scam company?? Just for the record please answer those two questions..
Then answer me this..If you believe in this..
"Venom when you do see the numbers(if ever) they won't mean anything because they won't be AUDITED and THEY WON'T SHOW THE DILLUTION. Without showing the dillution the numbers will be as worthless as the paper they are written on."
Why did you post this??
"Venom how do you know how accurate the projections are for 2010 when you have no idea what the company acctually did in 2009? Did they meet last years projections? we might have a clue if they even came close if the company would only get off of the dime and post the financials. Forgive me for not getting excited about the projections for 2010."
Funny how your posts use the lack of the financials to make a point and then they say they really aren't needed..
If the the financials don't include the dilution..why do I see previous posts that say that the dilutionary shares were added into the filings for the revenue??
I don't agree..Flippers don't always make money on every trade..in fact if they made as much as you might think..why would they post here..unless it is to manipulate the pps..
I do believe that this company will be profitable and I do believe that the financials when they come are a good thing for investors to see..Frankly I wish you would clear up the conflicting posts you have made...veno
Owgur..I also want to see the financials
and all other filings of interest..However..Like I have posted many times..The company posted their 2008 numbers in July of 2009..I am expecting the same this time or maybe even earlier..That is why I am in no hurry for the company to produce them..As we all know they don't have to file them even though they did in the past..I do believe they will file them again..but many things have happened since others were told they would be coming..Now if we go past July..I also would also ask for a reason why they haven't shown up..
I am quite certain that the numbers are going to go way up based on recent events and I also would like to see those numbers filed..Again..I have no PM access to respond to your PMs..So..I hope this helps...veno
And a few that has actually been to the company and reported back..As well as my own communication with the company..
"every single item with which you make a financial decision is based entirely on what is forthcoming from a limited few inside this company."
As of yet..I haven't heard one bad word from those actual visits and eyewitness accounts ..In fact they have seen the products and they have seen the trailers being loaded and their reports are very positive..I do find it interesting that one poster that has been negative hasn't reported his visit yet..
I also take into consideration why I bought shares in the first place and that was because the banks that back EXPO and the companies they work with..None of them have gone away..
I don't believe for a second that the company is making up the numbers for the short term..I believe those to be solid from the aquisition of Builders Choice..I also believe that it is easy for the company to get very close to what they project in those numbers of what their sales will be. That also coming with this new company on board..
So..I don't go by what the company says only..I take in the whole picture and my own gut feeling of what might come..Because of that..I am still buying shares..
My "motive" for posting what I post is not questionable as you say..I invest to make money and I am a shareholder here..I believe that the company is going to grow at a very fast rate over the next couple of months..That is why I post what the company has said..I certainly re-post what they say..after others put their own spin on what was actually said...veno