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Excellent points made here by Mav!
These points alone, proving there is nothing negative not being reported by mgmt. Only the shorts are reporting negative which is to be expected especially with regard to a stock that they severely shorted awhile back.
NWBO should continue to move up nicely if longs understood what is about to be announced shortly!
This stock should be named C.S.I. NWBO in Bethesda MD. I have never seen so much investigating into whether the stock done it or not in all my investing years.
And thank goodness for Woodford for supporting it's ups and downs.
Can't wait for news even though the news will probably produce more questions than answers.
I used to dread AF tweets/articles, now I welcome them since that is the only way it seems to get answers from mgmt., they listen to him and don't listen to us unless it absolutely works to further their fame.
I added 40% more shares due to the dip, thanks Adam;)
However I rather see the stock skyrocket to $100 on REAL news!
I have been in NWBO for 2 years and this has been my experience:
If anything is positive then it is amplified toward a positive spin and shouted from the roof tops.
If anything is negative it is downgraded toward a blip on the screen and info is lean.
If there was anything good that developed during this quiet period or stemming from this latest release wouldn't mgmt. follow their M.O. and do the above. I don't see any shouting from rooftops or positive, I don't see them clearing up the usual questions emanating from their sparse and parcel and more confusing than not PR's other than the 300 enrollees/recruits which we all figured out at the end anyways but there you go mgmt. throwing a not essential tidbit saying nothing really. Over 300 is so ridiculous, obviously if it were 348 or close they would shout it from the rooftops, and since they don't it has to be 300.5 wouldn't you say or am I missing something.
Wouldn't they want to help the stock rise as opposed to fall which is more typical than not?
Every week it is like watching another espisode of C.S.I. In Bethesda Maryland.
To answer my own question.
I believe that since LP is just about a one woman show, she is motivated by time and priorities.
Stockholder questions are not a priority for obvious reasons ie there will always be tons of stockholder questions and stockholder malaise but when there is no major downward pressure on the stock price stockholders can be ignored.
An AF lie on the other hand due to its nature ie immediate publicity is the polar opposite and necessitates an action be taken albeit LP used to ignore him to until he inflicted some major damage and he became a priority and not just another blip on the screen.
Too bad LP can't be cloned and more time be diverted to damage control and future negative media whiplash.
Don't get me wrong I am no AF fan.
But answer me this, why is it when one of our learned members asks MGMT questions or digs up valuable info and posts it MGMT never responds to us but MGMT always seems to respond to AF's negative false declarations?
Should we thank AF for doing this? I bought an additional 40% more shares today on the dive...........thanks AF, nobody does it better than you.;)
Did management completely screw up...again....absolutely!
However enroll = recruit, used interchangeably, are synonyms. Look it up for yourself! Nothing nefarious there, mgmt. has proven to be not that smart. LOL
TC,
another typical and expected reply.
Where did you gleam from my post that I was frantic or dismayed in any way?
All traders like yourself feel the need to calm the nerves by saying the generalization that when the pps drops big fast and loose , that it is a buying opportunity and to explain why it is manipulation in the market since there is no public news release.
But as our stock has enjoyed a ok ride up, no explanation is necessary other than a bunch of high fives. Nothing about manipulation when it goes up, especially when there isn't any news.
Now I don't know about you but I didn't buy this stock to double or triple my money, and I don't think LP and her family invested in NWBO and Cognate to double or triple their money either, far from that.
As you know NWBO is run similar to a private company and keeps everything tight to their vest unless AF comes out with a degrading hit piece, so we will have to wait as usual to either a scientific conference or AF's blog for any news......I really love waiting, don't you.
And btw thank goodness for Woodford and his buys, you think LP feels the same way?
I am sorry but I must respond to TC to be fair and balanced. So what would TC have written if it were up 13%?
Would TC write: "No News, Manipulation, selling opportunity?
I highly doubt that he would, he would however probably say:
"Thanks LP for making shareholders wealth grow" or " Look how great my investment here is working out, Go NWBO!"
I don't think we are all fair and balanced here anymore, just a bunch of cheerleaders remaining after everyother opnion gets booted or erased imho.
Agreed I have bee out of commission, been ill, just saw AF's out of the blue hit piece right smack on Yahoo Finance, firs thread an was dismayed and didn't realize you guys already handled it.
Thanks for the rebuttal against the trash!
Many here said AF was done creaming us.....guess they were wrong!
Now with this hit piece.....are we screwed again....how will NWBO espain away this one?
And more importantly why didn't NWBO plan ahead for it and why didn't anyone here catch it?
Beach,
why did you say what you just said at this time?
Thanks
We are stuck at 415k shares traded, it hasn't moved. With the good early vol today how can it no longer change volume wise?
Thanks Senti, that would be welcomed news to say the least.
May I ask how you came upon this, just check the line below that most resembles the source:
1)Someone alerted you
2)Gut feeling
3)You actually read about it
4)Your own magic 8 ball
5) none of the above, fill it in then
Thanks!
How about a new take on the new info!
First I want to thank Senti, Flipper, RK, BEach and all the other great minds on this board, we really are fortunate to have such knowledgeable posters/members (and although I let out many more names please understand my memory is terrible but you know who they are).
But even with the great minds that chat here imagine the minds that Neil Woodford has working for him, you think those minds didn't come up with your new and latest interpretation yet? You think they don't have even more salient info just because ;) and due to their optimal location and strong relationships in the field ;). Think about it, you guys and gals came up with your incredible intelligence today, when do you think Neil came up with his and what has he also known all along. He probably had someone at the meeting taking dictation while we keep reviewing the material up until today.
Think about it guys and gals, we think we are on the forefront, especially cocky Pyrr and in reality we are figuring out stuff that has already been disseminated and acted on. We are not on the forefront we are on the back end. However the general public and the genius brokers are even further behind.
Don't think for a moment this board isn't followed and acted upon. I have watched the stock trade differently after something of value has posted here. This is the go to place unless you are Neil Woodford who already ahs the minds and the relationships to know more.
LOL, I have thought the same and posted just that in the past, wouldn't be surprised, but alas we will never know.
Bottomline is we are all hiding behind a keyboard whether we like it or not and that power is double edged.
Imagine if Flip was no longer here, and I will be the first to admit it that I would be very insecure, reason being all DD is not the same ie my DD is weak. In addition I have zero understanding of the science, probably most shareholders are like me, dunmarse's who just might get lucky.
RK is Pyrr's angel and Michonne is his devil, and they both are sitting up there on his shoulder whispering in his ear and that is why we saw two sides to Pyrr. Just hope RK remains and would love to see Michonne depart.
Flip,
hate to bother you but is it possible that you could reply to Ickylite.
thanks if you can
I am going to make another prediction for this upcoming week, we will be a little down and a lot up and by end of week be at $12.50+ to $13.50. The momentum and the press will start to unfold and too many people will want to be in whether it is truly justified at this time or not, imho. BTW I believe we shoul dhave been at $10+ all along like we were at once before AF pulled the rug out and thus we should have been at $15+ easy by now but we all know what happened.
Excellent point, for some reason RK has selective amnesia with this Matter (pun intended!
Should we also not forget about this time while Pyrr was convincing many here to sell, btw he is condescending and very full of himself and believes he knows it all ( I am guilty of the last btw) he was recommending NBS and predicting it to explode and trying to convince all here to jump ship, today it is at $2.25, which if anyone followed his advice would have lost more than half their investment and in record time.
I am confused, I also see where RK said she knows Minocche or whatever and now she is joshing about that remark. And she promises she knows Pyrr, I believe the problem is she may think she knows Pyrr because she feels close to him but we all know that we really don't know people like we think we do case in point all the people trouble we all have in our lives.
I believe Pyrr is completely self serving under the guise that he thinks and acts like Don Qiote. I just don't want to be saved or saved by a waffle.
What irks me is someone who goes full bore in one direction, knocking down everyone in their way and then flips and does a complete 180 and hides behind the reasoning that they had an epiphany. And RK please don't take this the wrong way but you are bordering on practically the same as Pyrr in your while not 180 but lets call it 90 degree turn. Realizing a new frame of mind is one thing but after selling it as you did it is tough to keep up one's credibility after being so gung ho. Which probably explains your own absence on the board, and I know what you will say , that you are on to bigger and more important things, just thought you should read this. I know you are a real and good person but after reading all your stuff.....................................
will I hope you understand. Would love to see you post more.
OK I will agree with RK, if she says it isn't Pyrr then she isn't Pyrr. I also have no clue what HF means but whatever.
The bottomline is Michonne has taken where Pyrr left off and the continued balanced banter helps our cause because it is exactly the attack ie what the shorters will come at you with. Rather than play it out here and defeat them than anything else. At least I can read the back and forth and see where they are coming from and trying to get to.
It really isn't important whether it is Pyrr or not, some shorter just took than baton, and in a way I was expecting it, I just can't believe how obvious timing wise and how dumb she thinks must of us here are. I mean she actually believes that she could wield influence here, what a piece of work. Notice how she handles my question on 'why you here"?
Great post Ready, would vote that it be stickied to the top.
Can you explain why the Pyrr aka Michonne then feels necessary to complete disregard all that you fairly stated?
IMHO when someone comes here literally out of no where at this time when shorts are dangerously exposed it can only be for one purpose especially since she admitted to lurking here for sometime and started off wanting answers when she obviously already had ALL of them and was just baiting Flip to spout her/his agenda. Would you agree?
He she is only being deconstructive for the said purpose of lowering the pps asap.
Michonne,
for the record could you please tell the members why you have decided to come on here at this time and bash NWBO? I will ask this question repeatedly until you answer the question. I personally need to know your intent if you don't mind.
I think it would be fair to establish for the record that Michonne=Pyrr, case in point this last post of his/her matches his writing style to a "P".
Lets summarize, nothing has changed we still have Pyrr aka now Michonne frantically trying to push NWBO off the platform via hitting us on Sunday before trading on Monday. Probably the only feeling of compassion I have for him/her is that he will be sacrificing his Sunday to try to save his position on Monday.
But I still welcome his banter, it exposes just how good NWBO's product really is........so keep it coming honey!
Flip,
I like where you are going.
Listen I almost died a couple of years ago, turned to strengthening my immune system thru daily green smoothies. I have not had any illness in 4 years. I feel great and look younger since having them. My immune system was impacted positively there is no doubt about it and my green smoothies are not only directly responsible but they are in fact filled with a ton of varied greens and fruit. like getting a B1, 2,5,6,7,9,12 shot plus other vitamins and then some daily, we are talking a 16 oz drink of veggies included in that concentration too, all raw.
Ok I digress now back to Direct, so now why supercharge our immune system in a way never done before, so such a high degree it becomes akin to the fountain of youth-like potency from every immune system fantasy one can imagine......why not.
Just listen to the patients who stand behind what the protocol does to them and how they feel after getting it....it sells itself.
SO could there be other untapped or thought of applications not even remotely related to the cancer it is targeting and killing....a resounding yes.
I am very appreciative to read all this back and forth between Flipper (Pro NWBO and lead cheerleader and good all around member since day one) and a couple of other members (either short, or possibly long, skeptical or naysayer ie all healthy good members with opposing views imho)and watch them go at it for the good of the site. This is the fair and balanced discussion that I so hoped for and would like to thank all of you guys for your time and patience even though the patience aspect sometimes gets fairly thin;)
But what I find most interesting is the following:
can you ignore this latest run up, we had one before but it was cut short by the shorters and their falsehoods where they caused doubt by bombarding the airwaves nonstop. Now we see what happens when that element is mia. Obviously we are getting noticed and for all the right reasons we all jumped in so is everyone else.
I also find it interesting that some here say that only when the N.Y. based Baker Bros join the frey will we be the real deal yet U.K. based Woodford doesn't count other than his happenstance large dollar investment assumed made in an area he knows little about. Baker Bros and Woodward are equal in size of investments the only difference is that biotech is what the Baker Bros are known for while Woodford doesn't just specialize in biotech. Do you really think Baker Bros are the only ones that can pick em and the fact that they haven't jumped in yet while Woodford has bodes poorly for NWBO? I would opine that the Baker Bros are on the edge of the pool waiting to jump in inorder to swim with Woodford who might possibly have a bigger taste for getting in first. But the fact that Woodford is already in should be viewed as INCREDIBLY POSITIVE because when the Baker Bros do jump in they will be investing pretty much the same dollars.
I am with you Ready none of us should want to keep our head in the sand. These are important questions that need to be answered when known and can make us as easily as break us. I can wait but I will be vigilant. This is called risk. And just because we are at $10+ doesn't mean we should celebrate or forget about it. I invested in this stock not for the current $10/share but or 10 times that, so these questions will need to be answered inorder to get to those upper levels.
Go NWBO, there I did my cheerleading for the day:)
Close at $10.40, a new indoor record, my prediction was spot on......this time around;)
One of my few predictions:
We will set an all time high today, even with the turmoil in Greece. Imagine if it weren't a red day for the market in general!
This gal has legs......thinking we may have to send Pyrr some flowers and thank him for showing his short hairs of desperation!
Ready,
you are absolutely correct the only problem I have with Lill Miss M is that asking the same exact question when it has been asked over and over again under a new alt is a waste of time.
I would love to have answers to these questions but we all will have to wait a bit afterall we asked that LP keep us up to date didn't we and she has been doing so hasn't she.
HL,
I believe your last sentence was written incorrectly, that you meant to say:
Having Cognate own the facility does advance the goal of making NWBO self-sufficient let alone a big player in this market.
Please reply and confirm,
thanks!
You know who you are sloppy, you have posted here before under another alt and before that under another. You were a farse then as you are now. You have always been a short and will always be on the short side. Always trying to make money attempting to gamble at the low lying fruit but now it isn't so low , is it.
I wonder who you will be in another 6 months, some cats have 9 lives and you seem to use them up in a rather short time.
While I appreciate the opposing opinion to have back and forth banter on this site so it won't be 100% cheerleading going on. Bashing for the sake of bashing with nothing logical to say, no opposing argument just a stupid smattering of thoughts is a waste. You might as well be AF at a homemade beerfest for all I know.
Great see SOS's article today, impeccable timing, he is the unAF ;)
Wish it could be viewed on Yahoo Finance :(
I believe with all the momentum of last week and Smith's article this am we will be over $10 very shortly. I also believe that many potential shareholders that have been waiting and watching will start jumping in due to the ASCO PR by Bosch.
Also one has to remember when NWBO was under $5, is wasn't marginable but equally as important anything under $5 is treated like a penny stock, it wasn't all that long ago that it traded under $5. Now at double that and above $5 for quite some time it can be considered a real stock where more feel comfortable buying and holding it.
GL
Koman,
you really shouldn't assume. I am long but I have bought and sold numerous times because I will not watch this stock drop and do nothing, so my finger is always on the trigger.
I agree with your paper profits comment although that is correct about every investment there is and was and will be.
I value your negative commentary, because it brings balance but your other commentary stinks.
Firstly aren't you just a marketing arm?
NWBO is not mentioned anywhere that I can find.
So are you just trying to make wild predictions for just the sake of it or for selfish reasons.
Thanks and what few here remember was that I was one of the biggest cheerleaders here 2 years ago but did not like how mgmt. handled AF. Initially and I say that kindly mgmt. allowed AF free air time to voice and kill every company PR, they did nada only later did that change and of course with the action committee shutting him down in the end. We could have been right where we are over a year ago if mgmt. acted. Now they are acting otherwise the science hasn't changed and we keep progressing albeit slowly.
I will be a cheerleader when I see FDA approval.
Cognate still hasn't been fully answered. The plant in the UK
is still somewhat of a mystery similar to Dr Evil's lair. I never know when the company is being protective for themselves or for all of us with the transparency issue.
Again thank goodness for the it is the only thing that I can grab and hang on to.
And lastly some here argue why do I want the Pyrr's coming on here and posting their schtik. To me they might be sounding off what some in the general public are saying, so if we air it out here and prove the Pyrrs wrong then we end up a lot stronger. If we can't blow away their arguments then we need to know our weaknesses. I want to have my eyes wide open than only to squint.
I am not afraid of the truth and can handle my investment decisions better knowing it. Remember mgmt. will always be taken care of, they have many safety valves, we on the other hand don't other than selling and selling at the right time which is always problematic.
I am here for the miraculous cure and as well as the large profit expectation. And that about it, just being honest. I know everyone here will be history once they are out.
I have done better with most of my other stocks like APPL, FB, and SYMC where all have gone 3x to 5x. I am at 2x here which is ok but not commensurate with the inherent risk.
For the record, I invested in NWBO because I believe it will better any SOC out there and in particular all things chemo!
I have said this all before but it might be worth repeating for the newcomers here.
My father died of colon cancer in 2007, he was given Erbitux of Martha Stewart fame in the end. He was on chemo for 10 years one of the longest survivors per his docs. He was given 3 mos when first diagnosed. I believe their m.o. is to scare the patient with a ridiculously short life expectancy inorder to push the patient to take chemo with all the side effects. I helped the oncologist seal the deal by talking my dad into the treatment, something I will forever regret giving what I know now. Yes my dad lived 10 years but they were a living hell. During that time with the chemo that they say was working he had repeated radiation on his cancer that metastasized to his lungs, they removed his gallbladder, and removed tumor(s) from his stomach and half his liver.
In addition after every chemo treatment he had to be hospitalized for sepsis and only after he recovered and was released would the chemo start again. Thus side effect was never disclosed.
But when it supposedly traveled to his brain or so they said that was his final blow, but what he really had wasn't brain cancer afterall, his brain had shrunk it was diagnosed as chemo brain, the result of taking chemo too long another side effect that was never disclosed prior to the protocol.
Chemo brain is what killed him in the end because he had to be institutionalized in the mental ward of the local hospital, and since he no longer wanted to live and was now insane he was drugged and put out of his misery, it was horrendous for him and I watched it all unfold.
His 10 years was a nightmare, his life was hell and I helped the oncologist stay the course, I will never forgive myself for my actions. But now there is NWBO's cancer vaccine that uses the body's own immune system without any side effects, a miracle treatment that would have given my father a fighting chance to live while fighting colon cancer and possibly cure him. Do you all understand the difference in treatment here, it is miraculous and without the horrendous side effects, clearly unbelievable if given the choice and that is why I am here skeptical and all. Capice!
Dan88 I stand corrected , I don't have 23K shares, just added it up from all accounts, it is 22,950.........the point is you don't know what you are speaking about but your also entitled to your opinion.
I have seen this stock rise to $10+ and dive to $4+ in short time.
I will not be celebrating until FDA approval.
I have doubled my money too......ON PAPER.....which means squat.
We have many catalysts that can propel us to the moon, but there are as equal amount of opposites that could reverse that trajectory. Anyone who is satisfied with a double is playing into mgmt.'s hands since that was not my target price for investing. I want to see $100+, we have along way to go and I don't know if current mgmt. is capable of taking us there. I will remain skeptical until they do. As to Pyrr, he once helped us enormously, now he is doing the opposite but other than him there is no member here that will look at the negative. And I am not talking about the Slapdaddy's and the likes of him that are clear shorters with nothing to add. BTW I have nothing to add either since I am not familiar enough with the science and the behind the scenes at mwbo. bUT I WILL SAY IT AGAIN STOP CELEBRATING IT CAN ALL EVAPORATE....THE FAT LADY HASN'T SUNG!.......YET
Have a nice weekend and I hope the run up continues until we are well above $100 without anymore dilution.
A couple of points:
First I own 23K shares and am proud of it.
However I am very very wary of the mgmt. and the news releases due to the companies obvious motivations. I am always going to be skeptical, that is my nature. And I as a ordinary business practice rip every deal I do apart and if it is still standing then I go for it.
I notice many here are high fiving that we are north of $9. I would like to party too but I knew too well how quickly things can go the other way and I didn't invest all my hard earned dollars on the jump from $4.85 to $9.30 considering the risks involved. I want to see over $100 pps. Yes I am a greedy pig.
I would like to see more balanced discussion and that is why I enjoyed Pyrr's commentary. But I am deeply troubled by him, he promised not to come back on until July, that did not happen. In fact he came on at the impeccably timed to stop the runup on the latest PR similar to AF did in the past. If he was sincere he could have done it anytime after inorder to opine like anybody else. But he felt the need to post for one reason imho and that was to affect the pps. So I believe he absolutely outed himself since he admitted he was no longer a shareholder why then post an AF timed hit piece? Looking at the time he spent doing ii is also suspect.
Many here like I wonder why he was totally opposite last year and now I realize for the same reasons to effect the pps while he owned the stock. I often asked how is tha the can spend so much time here and what was his background and was always ignored.
I hope the stock passes $15 soon on its way to $20 and so forth but I also know there will be bumps ahead. I hope mgmt. has learned from all what happened and that we never trade below $9 again
GL
P.S. I am always going to be pessimistic having been burned in the market so often in the past and for that I humbly apologize.
I for one enjoy you guys refuting Pyrrs views. But now that Pyrr has slithered away again we need someone else to provide opposing views otherwise you guys tend to get drunk cheerleading. I unfortuenatly know nothing about the science so hopefully someone will stop up to the plate and ignore all the tomtatoe throwing and attempt to give the opposing side in an effort to provide a little fair and balanced discussions.
Everyone all on the same team is foolhardy and provides an unhealthy enviornment for such risky investing imho.
I don't trust Pyrr but I enjoy the back and forth info digging that he brings.
Wow DoGood I guess you haven't been here long enough to know that Flip and Pyrr were on the same team for s long time. they saw eye to eye, I used to question the two and wonder out loud if they worked for the company. At times I even thought they were the same posters. Pyrr was the only one here saving NWBO's arse writing articles to counter AF and the like.
Sure it is obvious that Pyrr no longer is a shareholder and Flip is still one but that shouldn't make what Pyrr believes worthless.
I believe Pyrr is the only one here who can see what really MIGHT be going on and if you think LP & Les are going to alert us you are dreaming.
It is funny because I am repeating myself but when Pyrr was pro company he was elevated to G-dlike staus, now he has been driven to the underworld because his views have changed. you guys are scary, but then fear must be your motivation. You are more comfortable listening to what Flip has to say than to what Pyrr has to say for obvious reasons. I respect both, but I have personally called them both deluded cheerleaders blind followers of the LP saga. Now with Pyrr changing his stripes that only leaves Flip. Both are extremely intelligent members far more wise than I , but I sense that something isn't right and I am a shareholder.
So tell me no one here smells anything? Bo one here senses anything odd? Knowing that nwbo must paint a positive picture to keep us, and Woodford and of course to keep a live, does no other shareholder feel anything?
NWBO just updated their chart due to what is going on here, but yet they stay mum to everything else. It is like they will only tell us what helps them and nothing else.
I am a fool too for being a shareholder in this company, I will ask my wife if she thinks that I smell because I smell something and it ain't good.