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~ Read Your RELEASE' submitted, "In Order To Participate" ... Your Counting Mechanism Is and Continues to be Monitored By A Source "other than" The "wmi-lt" ... Yes', the "wmi-lt" Also Duped Me With the ESC Nomenclature' ... purposely' ... ~
... "or not of course" ... WMIH / "COOP" shares have been a viable source of everyone's recovery ever since latter 2017' ... ~ Watch The Newco WMIH / COOP, It Is The "Tell" ~
... ? ... Has anyone "chosen" to review the preferred managing sub ? ... WMMRC's completion ? ... or, Mr Coopers Corporate Structure ? (SEC Allowed) ... LOL' ... ? ...
~ Pink', Contrary To Focusing on the Larger WMIH / "COOP" Chapter 11 Process', (195k, or it-loudadassss), is Focusing on the Irrelevant WMI Holding Company's "wmi-lt", ... which has never mattered' ~
... the constant, has somewhat of a restructuring component connotation ... since the loss'(s) ... plural ...
Yes, the WMI "wmi-lt" NEVER MATTERED' ... and ... "COOP" Has Been The "Tell" ...
Nothing has disappeared' ... only the infiltration of the wmi-lt personnel and the restructuring component, and the delays', have cause confusion and financial damage' ...
Has anyone "chosen" to review the preferred managing sub ? ... WMMRC's completion ? ... or, Mr Coopers Corporate Structure ? (SEC Allowed) ... LOL' ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Well ?, “If ? The Shoe Fits ? Were It” … the “WMIH / COOP” SEC Reporting was disregarded in exchange for the … Incomplete, Sloppy, Poorly Researched, and Obviously Losing Litigation ~
… the “wmi-lt” NEVER Mattered, … and … COOP has given everyone financially advantageous entry points for many many many years …
And the humorous attempts referencing “Corporate Structure” merely continue to reveal a laughingly lack of understanding … LOL …
The Sequential SEC reported accounting for the Preferred Managing Sub, … is and has been available for anyone to review ?, … especially prior to the submission of any delaying and losing litigation being filed … ? …
just sayin’
AZ
~ ND9', The Last Time I Looked', There Wasn't Much Left In The WMIH Preferred Managing Sub, ... and ... then with the purposeful delays', and NO loans being replaced, There would not be much if anything left coming inbound in that original Sub ~
... Consistently, ... I don't know the "when" or the "how much" ... the original common share ownership is definitely different' ... the continued and delaying litigation, and the constant 75/25 to the end', divisible sharing ratio's ?', ... have been incorrect' as I have posted for years' ... the accounting is available to any that are interested' ... all that is necessary is a comprehensive understanding of the SEC allowances of reporting a company's ... "Corporate Structure" ...
AZ
~ AND TWEEKED and ADDED', Simply For Continuity', LOL', ... KKR', Under the WMIH CEO's W Gallagher's Guidance, Had The Asset Values of WMIH Accounted For (NOT NationStar's) And Months Ahead of WMIH's Acquisition of NationStar's Completion, Which ? Needed A Push Across the Final Finish' Line' of Completion ... LOL' ... ~
... Again' ... the "wmi-lt" NEVER MATTERED, (it's purpose was always to confuse', got a lotta help there') ... and' ... "Watch The Newco "WMIH / COOP" IT" Has Always Been The "Tell" ...
The Counting Mechanisms and W-9's Submitted Are Still Intact' ... the "wmi-lt" confused the terminology and the issues ... But ?, They Are All Gone'
Rock On Brothas' and Sista's ...
AZ
~ It's Pretty Simple Actually', ... "Who Acquired Who ?" ... Both Gallagher and Brey' Told Anyone That Was Willing To Listen' ... I Did' ... and then KKR had the asset values "Accounted For" ... sort of a waste of time and money to have nothing of any value' accounted for, as the group would have "Us" believe ? LOL' ~
anyhew' (doesn't matter)
AZ
~ ND9', Hello Sorry to have taken awhile to respond however, I am very' busy with many things these days as "WE" wait for what WMIH / COOP has planned for "US" to occur, and coming rapidly' ~
what I am attempting to portray is ... BOTH' ... pre seizure of the Bank and pre WMI BK, and post the Plans Implementation, ... the Preferred Managing Sub is SEC listed and the accounting can be reviewed' by anyone and or everyone that truly has an interest' ... the point is ! ! ! ... it is and always has been the Company' that has controlled the Preferred Managing Sub, and ALL of its inbound receipt of earnings returns as well as the Company', that has controlled the use of the funding' ... These accounting reveals are SEC accounted for with the Company's Allowances to use the CASH' to pay the KKR 3% quarterly coupons ($18,000,000.00) as well as the accounting reveals of the Pay Off of the Run-Off Notes' ... again, point being that the Company is and always has been in complete control' ...
No one' ? has ever appeared to be remotely interested in these particular SEC Accounting Submissions, along with the placement of this sub under the management of WMMRC (the PMI insurer) which again per the SEC submissions, has now been dissolved' ... along with the timing of the application of the misread' PLR ...
I hope that helped answer your concern' ?
AZ
~ Biz, Those Statements (posts) Being Made', Are Not Accurate nor are They Complete', nor Are They Relevant To What "COOP" (WMIH) Has Coming', for BOTH The Individual and the Institutional Investors Alike' ~
... The "Submitted" Bankruptcy Documents', ... and Judge Walrath's "Signed" Approval and Denials Have Revealed, Not Only The Process ?, But also what WAS NOT Able to be Considered ... Separated from Not Only WaMu's Seized Bank, but also from the WMI' Holding Company's Chapter 11 Process' ...
The Indentured / Property Trustee verified the Asset Values', ... and Then ? ... KKR Also Verified the Segregated Assets and Their "Accounted For" Values' ... Signed off on by the WMIH CEO, William Gallagher' ... himself'
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=168708891
AZ
~ Well, People would actually pay a little' bit more attention to these posted descriptives ... IF' ? ... They were complete and accurate depictions', ... However ... These Continued Posts' Are Not', and many of us know that', and CHOOSE' Not to engage' ~
Judge Walrath maintained specificity to the 2 Bankruptcy's Filed' ... 1 for WMIIC (first) and 2 for WMI (second, one minute later) ... time stamped by the Clerk' ... @ 10:15pm and 10:16pm respectively
The WMI' (now WMIH) Holding Company's "Participation" in The Financial Returns of ABS-Certs', as well as, the WMI Capital Trust were NOT' Bankruptcy considered' ...
Goldstein & Rosbud' tried to Join The Outlying Subs' continued financial production, "Procedurally", but were denied by Judge Walrath with her pen' (October of 2008) ... the Subs were to be kept separated from the WMI' Holding Company's Chapter 11 filing' ... per Judge Walrath' ...
Moving Forward;
Then In 2011, Rosbud attempted for a second time', to secure the returns of the Subs, those very same returns, that were not allowed to be involved by Judge Walrath, and specify "Who" Would ?, or Who Could Be ? allowed to receive these returns, once the Plan of reorganization was implemented' ... the "wmi-lt" had dispersed to the creditors' per the plan' ?, and all litigation was complete' ...
The Indentured / Property Trustee questioned these attempts to the Judge Specifically', and within their submission, said' ... "These attempts to separate the returns being received from the Trust Participations' are not allowed', ... HOWEVER' ... If ?, Your Honor (Judge Walrath) Orders these actions to be appropriate' ?, We' (the Indentured / Property Trustee) will follow the Courts Directives' ... plan 6 failed' ...
... Judge Walrath (documented) agreed with the Indentured / Property Trustee and rosbud's attempts to secure the returning values for a few chosen ones were DENIED by Judge Walrath ... (failure # 2) ...
The "Disclosure Statement" described the continuation of the returning interest' being discussed' ...
maybe this falls of deaf ears' ? ... maybe not' ... However, ... I followed the case closely, ... read and followed this documented process' ... and my memory is accurate' ...
The litigation delays, ... have obviously delayed things, as well as taken a financial toll' ... had rosbud had his way ?, this would have all ended years ago, ... but it hasn't ... not yet
Then years later, KKR secured the proof of and the existence of the asset values' ... described by W Gallagher ? CEO of WMIH at the time ?, as well as J Brey to his own NYSE stockholders in early 2018' ...
these debates and arguments do not matter', when the entire process is not being considered' ... the "wmi-lt" NEVER mattered, ... and "COOP" has been an avenue for profit ever since latter 2017' ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Come On "COOP" I'll Give You A Few Back' ... @ $50.00 ... Let's Go' Baby' ~
... Not A Lot ... LOL' ... But A Few' ... My Positions are ALL Cash' ... Let's Go Baby' ... Daddy wants to go on vacation' ...
just sayin' :)
AZ
~ TWEEKED', Yepper's, ... COOP', ... Profit ? = Money, Money, Money', Being Sprinkled On My Oatmeal ~
... Buying More, and More, and More COOP ? and Making Money ? ... is a choice' ... the C-8 is amazing and the awd' turbo Caddy' is COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL' ... (black on black)
... no emotion' ...
ADDED: The system is not going to change' ... if ?, you don't like it ? ... walk' ... I happen to like money' ... lots of it' ... Today ? is A Great Day' COOP Is up over $2.00 per unit ... L@@K
AZ
~ Yeah LOL', ... "Don't know what that reply means.." ... LOL', Yeah That ?, Is Obvious' ~
Simplified ?, what that means is that for every 10,000 share block of the NewCo', WMIH / now COOP purchased in 2018 for $5.00 pps or $50,000.00 (ish) ... ? ... Is TODAY worth $450,000.00 ... That's a nine bagger without any effort other than the time' taken' to watch the process move forward' ...
... WOW' ...
AZ
~ Same Response ... "So What" ? ~
... WMIH / now COOP @ $5.00 ? or WMIH / now COOP @ $45.00 ? ... it's ALL Green' ... that's a nine bagger in my world' ... as threatened, File Against and Report Me If you have any balls', along with a solid case', and See What Happens' ... I am not boppie' ...
typical f-n gimmee, gimmee, whiner' ... Just in the last 4 months, I've bought a New C-8 and now added a new Caddy' with "COOP" Profit' ...
shine up your COOP shares' ...
AZ
~ So What ?, ... The Market Changes Daily', ... KKR Changed The WMIH Process', (WMIH was Not Going To Make It, Not' without KKR's Help) ... The Accelerated Filing WAS NOT Getting Done' ... I Told "EVERYONE" In Latter 2017 and Forward to WATCH The NewCo (WMIH, Now COOP), It Would Be The "Tell", Available in the single digits', ... and that the "wmi-lt" WAS NOT Going To Matter' It Didn't' ... Hedge Your Investments, I Do', and Understand the Use of SEC Submissions' I Do', ~
~ JJ, It Is My Opinion, That There CAN NOT Be Much or anything at all Left' in that WMIH Preferred Managing Sub, since the Cash was used to pay KKR's $18,000,000.00 in Quarterly Coupons through the end of 2017', As Well The Pay-Off of the Run-Off Notes' ... It is all SEC reported, and has been available for anyone's review for years' ... The Litigation Delays, caused The Inbound Continuation of Cash' to be seriously diminished, and then when the Managing Sub', WMMRC was dissolved' ? ... I began loosing any thoughts of the possibility of any substantial return of value' from that Sub' ~
"Or are you saying that here are no more assets backing these and only the interest from those could be available?"
Correct, this would be a more realistic consideration' ... ? ...
AZ
~ Yep', My Reference is the WMIH SEC Submitted Accounting, Along With That Managing Sub's WMRRC (The Hawaiian PMI Insurer) now Being Dissolved' ... It's All Able to be researched by "AnyOne" on the COOP' SEC site' ~
Look For Yourself' ... there's no need to follow anyone'
AZ
~ Boris', "Whatever" ... Seriously' "Whatever" ... I State My Findings' Regarding The Company WMI, now COOP period', ... I DID NOT Dish for the TPS within the voting package insert', ... nor, was I involved within any irrelevant (and delaying) litigation' ... period' ... My resume is clean' ~
... my friends know my ## ... right ? LOL'
~ NO' NO I Do Not' ... If ? ... IMO', "COOP" Corrects The Outstanding Share Allocation ? ... (Which ? I continue to believe is necessary due to the fact that "to many shares" were reversed in Oct of 2018) ... (the accelerated filing WAS NOT getting approved) ... then the COOP' forward split' that I Believe Is Coming, will only affect the present tense COOP position holders' ... KKR being the designer of the process' ~
The Preferred(s) are now Toast' ... and any releasd WMI Commons, will still be the recipient of the Disclosure Statements' reveals of the interest earnings generated' ...
~ "NOW care to SHARE TO WHOM THOSE BELONG?" ... ? ... Nope Not Really' ... I Couldn't Care Less Anymore' trying to help' ... Counting Mechanism's remain secured ?, AND' I have Built Quite A Substantial Position (multiple positions actually) in Symbol "COOP" over the years ~
AZ
~ Thank You and I Am Fine Sam, ~
I wait' for an updated SEC acknowledgement of Predecessor Operational Protocol' and Corporate Structure along with "Everyone" ... individual and institutional investor alike' ... "COOP"s One Operational Sub "NationStar Mortgage LLC', ... Is Humorous' ...
I just DO NOT Argue ? nor do I debate when it is obvious to me the relevant parts of the process and documents are not, nor have not received any consideration ... Is it possible for me to make an error ? ... of course' ... the "wmi-lt" tricked me as well as many others for years' ... however, ... I turn the page quickly' ...
my WMI, reorganized into WMIHC, now to WMIH' trading as COOP', ... has led me in a different direction, and BOTH Stock and Counting Mechanism Possibility's ...
have a great day'
AZ
~ Bob', In The Same Fashion As The Original WMI Holding Company ?, NO', The Asset Values ARE NOT "ABLE TO BE OWNED" ... Not' By Anyone' ... "Participated In" ? Yes' ~
Privately Calculated ? YES', ... Used To Privately Sell Large Blocks of WMIH ? YES' ... and ... now ?, continue to be managed' ... "Predecessor Operational Protocol" ...
AZ
~ Moving Forward Is Impossible with An Anchor of Poor Information Strapped To Ones Neck', ... Yes, the "wmi-lt"s Terminology "Tricked Me" With The Aid of an Innocent DTC Employee, using the ESC Nomenclature', However, I stand firm on the continued maintenance of the submitted counting mechanism's, Submitted to one's Broker with W-9 Attached' (and NOT submitted to the "wmi-lt" that IMO' took advantage of another avenue of continued misleading information) ... ~
Along with "COOP", I also Own JPM along with many other investments' and YES, the JPM quarterly Divi is on its way, ... Regarding WMIH / symbol COOP' ... the Holding Company's Reorganization was "Implemented" ahead of the Court's Approved Creditor Payments and the Completion of the "EXTENDED" Litigation' ... read between those lines', yes EXTENDED' ... (yes, purposely ? and unnecessarily)
For ALL Intents and Purposes, ... "WMIH" as COOP', ... As The Company' ?, Is (and has been) The Recipient of Asset Values' ... (verified by KKR, and signed off on by Bill Gallagher himself, as the CEO of WMIH at the time) ...
I Do Not Know what is possible regarding any original WMI Preferred Offering, the accounting has been available for study for years, BOTH pre and post WMI's BK... However, ... the lackadaisical approach to reality ?, I have found disturbing' ...
WMI's Common Share Ownership Outside of the WMI Holding Company, was Addressed within the Disclosure Statement' ... the Preferred Managing Sub WAS NOT CONSIDERED due to the FACT That That SUB, Like Many Other's Were NOT Part of the Holding Company's BK Considerations' ...
Yes, ... I Continue to calculate forward movements regarding BOTH' ... the Holding Company "COOP" as well as the continued interest generation ...
AZ
~ "Obsession" ? With WMI's MBS File ?, Quite A Poor Descriptive', What I Did Do Was Study Plan 6', its failings, and the necessary Transition To "7" The Dominant "Approved" Reorganizations Document "The Disclosure Statement" ... Applied The Judges Signed Court Orders, Specific to Form Regarding ONLY the "Holding Company" and Moved Forward With The Reorganized WMI', ... First to WMIHC, then to WMIH ... now simply trading under symbol COOP' with the application of an incomplete SEC Corporate Structure' (legally allowed) ~
For anyone to be concerned over the potential recovery's, the Disclosure Statement revealed the Directives, and regarding any (P or K) preferred offerings, the original WMI then transitioned into the WMIH Preferred Managing Sub, revealed the accounting, ... managed under the PMI Insurer' WMMRC, Now Dissolved ... Oh and ... Sorry But The 75/25 distribution ratio's went out' along with the completion of the "wmi-lt" ... those ratio's were never going to happen' ...
And, Those numbers ?, are NOT ACCURATE' ... NOT EVEN CLOSE ...
~ Boris, I Know Right ?, I Actually Added More Today' ... But, But, But, >? No One Else Should buy this turd' Right ... LOL' ~
Give Me A Break'
AZ
~ So ?, U Post F'n Books Every Day On Bull-Shit That Doesn't F'n Matter ... Now Crickets ? ... So The WMI / WMIH Preferred Managing Sub is off limits ? ... ~
... It's managing Sub and The closing of WMMRC the Hawaiian PMI Insurance Sub was missed ? ...
AZ
~ So, Now Back To The Irrelevant "wmi-lt" as a twist ? ~
... Is the Focus on the WMI Holding Company', a problem ? ... looks that way ... ? ...
I'm getting very close to posting the sequential WMI / WMIH Preferred Managing Subs' ... SEC Accounting ... Hot Potatoe ? ... No One wants to L@@K ? ... WTF' ?
AZ
~ Yeppers' ~
"is this corporate money, [or belongs ...] I submit that this money, if any, belongs to the corporation as carried through by the chapter 11 restructuring of assets of WMI, now WMIH trading as coop"
... the interest generations belong to the original common shareholders', ... REITS' ... verified by the ignored ... "Disclosure Statement" ...
get off of the "wmi-lt" ... it never mattered' ... and don't disrespect my friend Doreen'
AZ
~ Correct TDean, And At A Minimum You Maintain Reasonable Content' ~
However, ... just consider that the WMI', to WMIH reveals of process information were simultaneously being SEC Reported by BOTH' ... J Brey on the NYSE to his shareholders, as well as by Bill Gallagher ... Both At The End of 2017 ' ... And Well ahead of the Covid early' 2020' beginnings' ...
AZ
~ Thanks', "Point Proven", ... That ? Was Easy ~
Had the questions been organized ? or able to be ? ... or attempted to be ? ... well, that was never the intention though' ...
"COOP", yes COOP has been a money maker for quite awhile now' ... it is not hard' ... However, earnings and financial progression ?, are not everyone's goal ... LOL' ...
... Yes' ... I have added, and added, and added, and added' shares'
just sayin' :)
AZ
~ Bull-Shit, the issue has always been the inability to focus on the WMI holding companies BK … that’s what was problematic for the masses, However not a problem for Judge Walrath and not for a few with a true legal background ~
… no emotion …
COOP Is Merely Depicting a Portion of the Original WMIH Holding Company'
AZ
~ WMI’s Safe Harbor (Segregated) Assets Were Addressed By A Signed Court Order In October of 2008’, ~
… a few subsequent times and then again by KKR’ …
AZ
~ LOL … “just sayin’ … LOL ~
Reuters’ …. circa: 2008
https://www.reuters.com/article/washingtonmutual-torontodominion-idUSN2332447520080923
PHILADELPHIA, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Canada's Toronto-Dominion Bank TD.TO is weighing a bid for all or part of Washington Mutual Inc WM.N, joining a mix of suitors eyeing a takeover of the U.S. savings and loan, a source familiar with the situation said on Tuesday.
TD Bank may bid as part of a group, or may pursue an acquisition of any assets or branches that get divested if another bidder wins the hand of Washington Mutual, the source said.
Ed Clark, president and CEO of TD Bank, said earlier this month that he was “extremely cautious” about U.S. assets and the company was “in pause” while it integrated its previous acquisition of Commerce Bank.
“If everything was OK, Washington Mutual looks like it would be a great franchise and in fact it would probably be quite consistent with what TD would like to build in the U.S.,” said Michael Goldberg, an analyst with Desjardins Securities in Toronto.
Others weighing possible takeover bids for Washington Mutual include Banco Santander SA SAN.MC, Citigroup Inc C.N and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co JPM.N, the source said.
HSBC Holdings Plc HSBA.L and Wells Fargo & Co WFC.N also have looked at Washington Mutual, other sources told Reuters last week.
Washington Mutual, which has been hurt by mortgage losses, continues to explore all options, such as talking to potential buyers or raising capital, according to the source who named TD Bank as a suitor.
U.S. regulators also could purchase WaMu’s riskier assets, making it easier for another bank to buy the rest, The Wall Street Journal reported.
“I don’t think that they’d (TD Bank) have any interest unless there was some assistance from the U.S. government to take over problem assets, in a good bank/bad bank scenario,” Goldberg said. “If that happened, there could be lots of people interested.”
Toronto-Dominion, J.P. Morgan and Citi declined to comment. Banco Santander, HSBC and Wells Fargo could not be immediately reached for comment. (Reporting by Jessica Hall; additional reporting by Lynne Olver in Toronto and Ajay Kamalakaran in Bangalore; editing by John Wallace)
… LOL … ;)
just sayin’
AZ
~ Thanks Soundin', I Believe The Time and pps of The Actionable Event Coming, Was Determined Long, Long, Ago ~
These COOP daily trades are not random, ... there are those that actually know' the when' ... and are using these times to their benefit' ... the only promise that needed with signature', to be made' was ... "To Not Reveal The Asset Values and the Accounting Shown' To The Public" ...
In My Opinion ?, any COOP shares that remain available less than the lowest analyst @ $51.00 are a gift' ...
Take Care'
AZ
~ I Know, I Know, Simple Sentences Can Be Difficult ? LOL', "rosebud" COULD NOT REMOVE The WMI to WMIHC to WMIH "Counting Mechanisms" ~
... all of the release forms DO NOT, or DID NOT' Refer to the "wmi-lt" ... maybe ? to actually have a copy ? would have simplified things for an actual ?, ... releasing participant' ...
(not' so very deep stuff actually) LOL'
just sayin' :)
AZ
~ Hope You Are Healing Properly' I'm NEVER FAR or "Gone" as has been proffered' LOL' ~
... Been Reading Document and SEC Submissions for a very long time' ... WMIH / COOP is one for the books for sure' ... big dogs took their best shot and did NOT' get it done' ... However' ... Everything will be fine' ... :)
just sayin'
AZ
~ "WMIH / COOP" was available in the single digits in early 2018 and now forward, ~
TRULY, the "wmi-lt" NEVER EVER' MATTERED (simply one of a few distractions)
2018' was a NewCo' (COOP) SEC process revealed pivotal year, and an opportunity for ... "Everyone and Everything" ...
... "Invest Appropriately" ... (the 75/25 to the end") was always a pipe dream' ... Have A Great Day' ... "Predecessor Operational Protocols" ... and ... "Corporate Structure" ... will continue to move "Everything" "COOP" forward' ...
just sayin' :)
AZ
~ Yep and Irrelevant' "WMIH / COOP", the 2018 SEC Submissions' "Set Up The Process" and revealed the future' ... ~
(AZ knows and has made friends with A Lot Of GOOD People)
just sayin' :)
AZ
~ Everything Posted Has Been Available For Anyone and Everyone To Study & Review Individually, "EVERYTHING" ... I merely Revealed The Existence of the Relevant WMIH COOP Submissions ~
... Go COOP, Go COOP, ... the "wmi-lt" Never Mattered' ... rosebud' could not remove what was relevant ... and COOP Has Been The "Tell" since latter 2017' ... Sound Familiar ? ... LOL
(my accounts ? are all just fine)
just sayin'
AZ
~ Pink, It's (195000) Completely Meaningless Regarding US' (WMIH COOP and more), It's Arguing and Debating W/O Any "COMPLETE" Historical Accuracy (twisted-twisting) ~
... more than one' ...
just sayin'
AZ
~ Learn’ the SEC Submitted “COOP” “Corporate Structure” that has been being properly SEC submitted for a few years now ~
… JWW … is accurate … “XOME IS NOT their CORE BUSINESS”
AZ