hydrogen, the most plentiful element in the universe
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deadheded:
I wish just once the company would follow up on a claim with verifiable, independent proof. They have had enough time now to put themselves into a competitive position.
It's put up or I'm going away time. I'll give them about another 30 days to release the party balloons.
slbrown:
EarnestDD has a good point, unless they get some kind of independent verification of their claims, this is simply a," he said, he said situation."
They need independent back up. I've followed this stock for over a year, whatever intellectual property rights they may have should be put into a patent form. If this is a revolutionary device, it must be patented. My belief was that they wanted to delay the patent application as long as possible to ramp up marketing and production before disclosure. IF the process of extracting enough hydrogen exceeds the energy to produce it, we have what is called "above unity",the Holy Grail of renewable energy.
The PR's about the international physicists that were gathered to analyze this have now had almost 3 months to submit a report.
I'm willing to give them till the end of the month to substantiate their claim.
Thank you Kermit42.
EarnestDD
How can you honestly guarantee anything?
Google second law of thermodynamics, there are many scientists who beleive that law has a clear potential to be amended, especially when it comes to "breaking" water.
It is the holy grail of renewable energy, as its byproduct is water and oxygen.
There is enough stored hydrogen in one gallon of water to enable an average car to go 1500 miles. That's correct, you read it right. They have an 80/20 ratio hydrogen extractor now, and they have a more spectacular generator for homes and businesses too. Imagine taking your house 'off grid' and running all your electrical needs with water. That is where this company is headed, that is why they first started with the hygrogen powered restuarant , then decided to put that on the back burner when gas went to 4 bucks last summer.
There is alot more going on here than you think, there are physicists from all over the world looking at this one.
You don't have to believe me, I really don't care if you do or not, it doesn't matter.
They know they are going to have to back up these claims, this is NOT a pump and dump operation. It may indeed fail, but it will be an honest attempt.
I'm not here to convince you or anyone else to buy anything. I am a large investor and I'm here to gain and learn whatever I can form these boards, which I may add, isn't much.
EarnestDD:
They have the product, I saw it. Got the personal Demo.
It's real.
I don't know what the delay is.
What beans?
C'mon, you know what I meant.
...and we're still waiting.
What is the story?
We all seem to be expecting some forward guidance from the company this week. I surmise Fridays gains were based on that rumor.
I certainly hope this current CEO keeps the momentum.
They have been woefully silent since July 16th, when they stated a future broadast by Mr. Ley would be conducted "shortly".
Is over two weeks still "shortly"?
Keep an eye on the newswire tonight.
They may spill the beans.
Can't get any more real
than recent history. I agree, this is a penny stock play.
Playing with penny stocks is like playing with matches, you're pretty likely to get burned.
Remember this PR last month?
This PR came out after hours on a Friday and the stock went wild on Monday.
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1249066126&article=38400455&symbol=NO%5EXYNH
Could we get a repeat?
Somebody believes we will have news:
Today's spike indicates to me that we will indeed get some more official news next week.
Inside market makers and pennystockchasers all get the early jump.
Yes, deadheded, alot different.
As I was quietly reading this thread, it was nice to see intelligent, thoughtful posts without all the BS in between.
I hope I can add some strength to this already admirable board.
sork.
Thanks for the warm welcome Foxy.
And yes, been a huge believer in this company for over 16 months now. I still am very bullish but getting a bit short tempered with the way they operate.
They have had enough time now to ink some concrete deals and should have provided 'independent' proof of their hydrogen extracting generator. I have had a personal demonstration of the device in the parking lot of the home office. I saw the Chevy Silverado and met the inventor.
From what I could discern, (I am not an engineer or a scientist) the device works as advertised.
I do own alot of shares, many millions, thats all I'll say.
Have sold very, very little on the last run up. Wish I sold more now. Neverthless, to me, it's crunch time.
August is the month. Time for the full roll out.
Been following this stock on Yahoo
since Mar. 08... been to the home office twice. Own a ton of shares, very disappointed in the stuttering stop and start, no follow thru behavior. This latest CEO moves too Slow too!
When is the BIG PR coming? And of coursse, the meat and potatoes behind the PR would be a Pat. Pending, an Installation Center, or the OBAMA AWARD for best tasting drinking water out of a tailpipe.
Getting very frustrated with the less than forthcoming PR's.
Too much fluff.
Dream,
I am impressed with your ability to bring a dead board to life. You must be pretty well networked. I hope it brings many new shareholders for Icoa. Best of luck to all on board here. The next 3 months could be what we have all waited for- tremendous growth!!
Dream:
I have not talked to Erwin, but I did drive to home office a couple years back and met George and the marketing guy, Mr. Lord.
They we gracious and open and very enthusastic. I don't believe Erwin is trying to pull something on you, I think they get ahead of themselves.
Based on the five years I've been here, they have not come thru big but have always escaped what appeared to be certain capitulation. I respect them for that.
They have never been in a better spot, I just see a similar trend of some kind of procrastination or something.
I try to remember what a crapshoot these penny stocks are, 90 some percent of them fail.
Icoa has been a survivor, I got all my fingers crossed that they finally break out of a long term trend.
I'm sitting on a quarter million shares, I'm motivated, just skeptical.
If they filed for an extension, why would they say they are going to put out a 10q anytime soon?
sork.
Still waiting for explanation:
I realy hope Icoa comes out with a stunning PR and an explanation for the delay of the 10q. It will take all of that to put the gas back in the tank.
Dear Gemmerling and Sak,
Jus thought I would come over to this board from the raging bull board to set the record straight. We have been long time investors of icoa, Sak and I, Greg moved on awhile back and for good strategic reasons. It looks as though we may have a run here at the goal we set so long ago. Seems almost surreal that this is happenning. Tomorrow is a big day for Icoa and the rest of us long horn shareholders. Its been alnost 5 years for some of us.
Greg,
I am hoping we get a press release from icoa to help the stocks momentum. I think it would be foolish of George not to capitalize on this little bounce. But them, nothing they have done in the last 5 years has been helpful. More than anything, I would like to see icoa return to its .10 trading range. Anyone who buys in now would get a tenfold return. With 100 million shares outstanding, it does not seem likely this will happen. sork
Greg,
I can confirm those faces. I was at the icoa headquarters in the summer of 1999. I wish they would give US something to smile about!! sork
gemmerling,
I am still fully invested in gold shares in my Scudder retirement fund. I took a risk and put everything into the one fund 2 years ago. the NAV was 6.48 now trading at 13.25 so I am quite happy about that. The gold shares are a little ahead of themselves in anticipation of spot gold prices rising. Not much happens in August as we all know, so if there is to be a breakout in the price of gold it should be in the fall. I'm also heavily invested in silver, physical silver. We shall soon see about that as well.
Thanks for the links, I will check them out soon...
As for icoa, I have no idea what is causing the hub bub but I'm glad it did not roll over and die just yet, I have 200,00 shares, averaged in at .10. So 90% of my money is gone. I should have never let it go that far. I will never do that again with any stock.
Vtsi has alot going for it except the shareprice. It's really in the basement compared to where it used to trade. I am surprised at that.
Happy trading Greg, and be careful, markets are vulnerable.
Greg,
I must say I am impressed with the fact that you posted all the press releases on icoa, and you no longer own any shares. I have been very passive and passe' about this little mal investment that I poured way too much money into and held on far too long for the drop to the sub pennies, I did not even know you could divide pennys that small! Anyway, I am still a shareholder and raging bull does not post up well these last few weeks. If we could get the rest of the crew to convert to this site, I would not mind at all and maybe, just maybe icoa will give us all something to talk about. Just a hundred bucks would would give you a substantial position. Although It could be bettter spent on a good horse as well.
I am still holding vtsi Greg, are you still as excited about that one as you were a few years ago? Thanks for keeping icoa's interests at heart.
Wishing all fellow Iconians:
A Happy, prosperous New Year! Could this be our year?
Off topic post:
Would like to use investor hub as the main posting for Icoa shareholders. I agree with Ztech, ragingbull should die a miserable death. Any icoa regulars here agree? Let's use investors hub Icoa board as main communication location. Thanks to gamz shareholders for my imposition. sork.
Hi Sak,
Looks .like we made to a new place, won't be loing before ztwit follows. He is now sucking up to margarita bigtime
figuring she could use a real buddy on icoa RB board. They will trash icoa daily. Maybe margarita will turn on him as she is a long time shareholder. Lets see what happens. sork.
bICOA looking good/b
Hoping to get uSEC to approve re-listing very, very soon/u
Good things about to occur. Waiting patiently. sork.
Hey Gemmerling, Irnin, and RY2K,
thought I'd come over here and check out what a great job Gemmerling did setting this up. Only problem I have is the server seems awfully slow. I have a 500k cable modem and its still real slow. Hope it does not discourage others from using it.
Got a great potential this week with ICOA, for those just tuning in, most here have been shareholders for over a year and have been waiting for ICOA to get off the pinks and receive the 10 million dollar subscription loan. That all should begin to happen very soon. The stock went from .05 to .10 in the last 6 days just on the fumes of the expectations. There are many here who feel this is the month the SEC will allow icoa to re-register with the otcbb. Financials were submitted Nov.30th 2000 and have been commented upon already. Word is all is well and any day now we should get a PR to that effect. .10 cents is a great price. I am averaged in at .108 over the last 17 months of accumulation. Hoping we get the news later this week. this is an exciting time for long time holders, we may experience the birth of a great company. Good luck to all this week, sork.