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Oh yea? Well I hear that "next week" is going to make this week look like last week. So what does that tell you? Duh! Right? Right?
WAFR- where greener pastures are always just a week away!
And yet a never ending supply of twos are there every day, even when the ask moves to three, everyone wants only the twos? Good luck ever getting out of this rut. The CEO is a con man pure and simple.
Oh yeah, and he is a Ginger, and everybody knows that Gingers are rant raving crazy. Duh!
You mean something like the pompous and smug CEO addressing all shareholders with a "public" announcement that is devoid of a "dismissive" and "condescending" tone for longs that are legitimately upset after waiting for over a year for the "merger" that is awaiting his signature?
You mean something like that?
This is a self imposed "Catch 22" situation. By not addressing shareholders Angel has earned all the criticism he gets and he is fortunate that many can only "reach out and touch someone" via the phone company. At the same time his severe lack of business acumen and failure to adhere to even a modest time line in which to accomplish stated tasks is reason for his protracted silence. He is the sloped back old nag trying to run with the Thoroughbreds in the cannabis biz.
I think it's time that he get's a clearer picture of things to come.
I'll bet that in even less time than its taken him to step on his pecker a private company will emerge as the standard for testing in this sector. Hmmmm?
Angel's only intent it seems was to sell paper.
Exactly. Because a apathetic and complacent constituency is easy to manipulate.
You are correct. So why is this legal?
Real companies don't get their start this way. Real companies become public typically after years of private sector growth and success.
IMHO there is only one reason. Given the delicate and fragile balance that the US financial markets are tethered to the SEC and its enforcement division have top priority in making sure that there exists at least a perception of stability to the general public. This ensures that not only will folks be less likely to make a run on the banks to retrieve their deposited cash but it also keeps them pouring new capital into the financial machine. Without this sense of trust and stability there is chaos. IMHO they allow for the constant crime witnessed in the OTC and pinks as a means of keeping the organized criminals out of the larger and more delicate stock market realm. This I pose as the "Beatleguise" theory.
If you remember the movie "Beatleguise" Michael Keaton's character was a trouble making spirit lost in the realm of purgatory. In order to keep him under control the "designers" of purgatory created the "whore house" as a part of the landscape of the miniature town depicted in the basement of the principle character's home. This way the distraction created by the whore house would provide them peace of mind in knowing where he was. Similarly the pink and lower markets are where the gov has designated the playground for financial crimes. This is why there is no enforcement, and no rule changes. The crimes here can be committed by either companies themselves or by the corrupt market makers like NITE that make their bones here, or by the numerous foreign threats from organized crime and terrorists organizations that control and manipulate as we have come to know.
It's not difficult to witness this as most of us have seen many clear cut examples. It is also rather easy to control as the dollar amounts required to control a stock here are very low relative to what it costs to do the same on a big board stock.
A few hundred thousand dollars gets you control of most stocks in this realm, a million or more and you can do almost anything here with complete impunity.
There is a science to playing on this turf. You either get it or you get burned. Once you realize a few principle tenants you can succeed here.
IMHO they are:
1) never fall in love in anything here. They will all break your heart and your bank.
2) early bird get the worm. If the stock you are looking at has already made its run of 30%, 50%, 100% plus then you are being targeted as a future bag holder so that others can exit. Don't buy in.
3) the criminals control the game. Once you figure out that there is a reason why NITE wins 90% of the time, perhaps you can see where to get your licks in in between the protracted death throughs of the committed longs.
4) don't own anything overnight, if you can help it do not go to sleep holding a position in one of these pos stocks it only takes one night to wake up to grey market trading or a nasty RS
5) plan your work, work your plan. You will do far better taking a consistent 10% 20% 30% flip daily then you will watching your dead money sit for up to a year or longer before your dead stock's management feels enough time has passed to let the bitterness of failed former promises give way to a brand new pump. This one is so funny because all the former burned longs all become complicit, shameless promoters of a known POS in order to get a new round of bag holders to relieve you of your shares..
Have fun.
"Mr Kazia said “There are solid plans in place to achieve all that we have worked hard to accomplish”.
Hello? What in the heck is he "trying" to say here? This is essentially saying that, yes, plans exist that have allowed us to complete what we have already done.
Wow, (insert golf claps here), you are a wordsmith Dr.
Funny thing about words used to separate you from your money, they should at least make sense. This is pure double talk jibberish.
And congrats on opening a brick and mortar store in the Internet age. You have successfully added more debt in lieu of seeking affiliate agreements to be carried in the stores of others. Excellent plan.
The CEO exhibited the traits EK looks for in a pink CEO "mark"
Val gets an epic fail as a CEO but that could be due to his weak character or because he is a criminal scumbag. I don't know.
But Eli Kauderer should be required to have a mortician's license for all the blood letting he does to these fallen companies.
I will add that there exists a high probability that the CEO has already perjured himself here. That is Eli's trademark leverage to get a CEO to allow him to do unthinkable things with the stock.
It seems Eli is very keen at finding pre bankruptcy candidates for his victims. People operating out of fear and financial peril make incredibly bad decisions. Eli looks for these low float, low OS companies in trouble and gives them the grandiose dog and pony presentation replete with a reach around handie.
No real CEO falls for this crap even if they are riding on vapors.
If you see Bull Consulting or hear his name, run, don't walk, to the exit door. He is cancer for every stock he touches.
Yes and you should know Eli Kauderer from Bull$hite Consulting too. He and AGS are synonymous and whenever an out of cash company is strapped to the point of having to resort to using the pinky equivalent of a Shylock, boom! Eli the Semitic Shylock is there to pump up the volume with his Jersey Turnpike brand of fist pumping, spray tanning, anabolic pill stacking, fake a$$ goombah wannabe brand of .05$ promotards.
Once he has moved into your stock. The CEO has already planned his exit strategy.
GLTY.
That's a common problem. I was in that. Got a wildcat in my truck. Got sucked into selling a few and found no support from the clowns in Ark. This BG has even greater potential IMO but can be just as easily sunk by an inept mgmt.
I know all about it so save your breath. There is no end to the yellow brink road in pinky land. It just goes on and on for years and symbol changes and mergers and reverse mergers and cusip changes and up listings and reinstatements and auditors and whew......buy backs, and share retirements, and short squeezes and DCC chills, and then grey market trading or just some heavy, empty bags. Is that about right?
Aaaahhhpathy, why not take aaaaahhhpathy.
Is the market apathetic or are they just saying this is Ah...pathetic?
Shocking trading action today. Just shocking I tell you. Lol
True. I think recreational user can benefit in a big way but it would have to be through a value added feature paid for by distributers and boutiques. Think of it as a menu.
In the same way a menu tells you what's in a dish the info gleaned from a BG style lab could be used to offer selection guidance.
Perhaps I need to work, dinner party, social gathering, etc, I don't want something too heady or that would make me non social or stricken with anxiety. There would be a selection for that. Or perhaps I want to just lock the door and turn up the music and would like that headyness. There would be a selection for that.
I don't want to pay a subscription rate for it personally, but as a hidden service charge lumped in with my purchase from a distributor it would be innocuous and at the same time a well appreciated value added by the seller.
This can grow legs but there is a specific end user and it is not the consumer.
In addition to that is that from a strictly medical perspective, proper study of various strains can lead to exciting breakthroughs in homeopathic medicine. These studies would create a catalog of strains with trait characteristics that can be specifically prescribed for various ailments.
Does Angel have the wherewithal to accomplish this? I don't know but if it was me I'm looking towards sympathetic politicians and leaders of industry that have navigated the channels of these waters armed with lobbyist and a dose of graft and favor. Does Angel have these friends? Does he know where to find one?
I think that we are seeing some attrition, this is when all efforts have to be stepped up. Like when a well conditioned sports team has their opponent running out of gas they still have another gear to switch into.
This mis true of the greater legal precedent and of BG.
Activism and community re education will take care of the greater good. Angel needs to focus BG on some grass roots income generation from it's main product.
I don't disagree with you. But here's the rub. Big pharma doesn't just have its hands in the back pocket of the gov., its giving them the old reach around after buying dinner and all the scotch they could drink. So we are not just overcoming public ignorance of the history and usefulness if cannabis we are more importantly involved in a war with the corporations that hijacked the knowledge of a planet and demonized a plant, (for crying out loud). These pharmaceutical and tobacco and alcohol companies have big investment to protect GLOBALLY! They spent hundreds of millions to propagate this agenda world wide. They are afraid of the fact that so goes America, so goes a very big part of the world. That's why the UN, (the F-n UN!!!!!) is petitioning Mark Holder to enforce Federal Law on all of the dissenting states!!! They say it is in violation of a UN treaty. They don't get that in America the states come before the fed. States agreed to form a fed gov of reps from each state. States rights trump all in America. If pot, Bud Genius, Angel, and the people of these states are to succeed, the use of the law and the re education of the people are going to be the only way.
IMO anyone invested in pot stocks has a personal and financial responsibility to be an activist as well. If not you can kiss legal pot and bug genius goodbye.
What is the latest report on click through rates for that site?
I would bet that the success of an online laboratory would hinge on the number of daily visitors to the site.
How many mms cardholders are there in California, Michigan, DC, etc.?
What's the estimate of the number of pot smokers in Colorado and Washington?
One would think that with the widget errr service already in place that profits would be only a matter of advertising. I would have to assume that between 16 states with legal mmj laws and 2 states with full legal status that the market is out there to be served.
You don't need millions of dollars in shareholder's money to market this site, you just need someone who knows how to conduct a proper marketing campaign.
Much like a good pot dealer, they really don't have to be a great salesman, you just have to have a good product and the buyers will find you.
So in over a year this ass clown can't get people to the site or is it that the market, (of longtime pot smokers), doesn't really need a weatherman to "charge" them to tell them if its raining outside?
Again. A very truthful and spot on post.
If one bets daily on rain or sun eventually everyone wins.....and everyone loses.
Been raining on WAFR for a long time now, even Seattle gets some sun every now and then. WAFR is rumored to be out buying sun tan lotion and a new dress....it's what I heard anyway.
Can we get a like button? Sheesh. Does Facebook have the patent on that thingy?
WAFR is an OTC baby boomer. Born and bred on rumor, innuendo, conjecture, and other randomness from the blogosphere.
Do you get an early warning from markets makers sent to you too? So many birds without a name on Wall St. What's an investor to do?
Rumors are just that, take it or leave it.
WAFR was built and dismantled on rumors you know, so in that regard this is par for this course.
Ok. It's called apathy. The market is as apathetic towards OTC stocks as Americans are towards their government.
This is what happens when people stop caring about everything because in their estimation it is too far gone to do anything about. This of course is an incorrect estimation but proof of helplessness and apathy none the less.
There are numerous stocks here boasting assets and contracts and warm and fuzzies of all variety but no be wants to take the bait.
This is a sign of the times. No trust in gov, no faith they will enforce the laws ever.....so there is APATHY.
Have fun now.
That's why there is so much confusion. I think it's by design.
If people started reporting it for what is it and not confusing it with legal shorting perhaps it would be given more attention.
That alone however, does not change the nature of how non reporting companies operate or how they are perceived by the market or the SEC.
In looking at the whole of the non reporting realm it's difficult to understand how these companies can be allowed to operate under a public umbrella.
The government is essentially saying, "it's ok for you,John Q Public, to put your money into it, but they do not meet our requirements to police them or enforce any of the laws that are supposed to regulate them".
It's interesting how Maobama and his uber government want to grow every aspect of government EXCEPT for the branches that police and enforce financial mis practice.
There is no conspiracy theory. It's conspiracy fact being misunderstood by sheep.
HESG is showing a pulse due only IMHO to the shell game being played in Vietnam. They will continue to distribute all the shares needed to cover the short position that was created 3-4 years ago so long as any here continue to believe that the cavalry is going to ride in and save everyone from the evil shorts.
Stop trying to befuddle people with that weak explanation. That is not the only kind of shorting that occurs. There is legal shorting, that has a prescribed method of use and can be done by anyone meeting the requisite requirements. Then there is the shorting that only the house can appropriate. The naked shorting kind of positions that get opened and never covered.
These should not even be called the same name. Legal shorting is needed on the markets. It's the counterpoint to a bet. I go long, you go short. One person will be correct any given day. Naked shorting as it is called should not even be called shorting. It is in fact just a confusing name to account for the sale of "air" there are no actual shares to account for these sales. It is more like counterfeiting than shorting. And until a company is SEC reporting there is almost nothing a company can do.
I'm on the wagon you speak of. It's halfway to the city of Paydirt but its a coach of a different name trading at around .30
HESG is stuck in the livery with a broken wagon wheel that has been at the blacksmiths shop for over a year. He's kind of a big red drunkard so....
Anyway Temperance I heard was braiding Karma's arm pits before she takes her monthly patchouli bath. They might be a while.
I thought we asked him 2-3 years ago? He still has not answered. I guess he's not home or perhaps he bought a shell, moved it to Vietnam and raised the AS so he could cover via distribution.
Once this is done HESG is done. They will of course abandon the shell and there it will sit with its 50b shares worth of bagholders. For that kind of money those bags should be Hermes or at least Chanel.
Is he building it with bamboo toothpicks and Elmer's glue? In the same period of time Barack Obama has gone from a socialist democrat to a warmongering Corporationist dictator.
Time to step it up Matt, the ink on the last PR is beginning to fade.
Wtf?
That's amusing. I hear Hope and Faith are two sisters that give massages for Happy endings at the massage parlor next door to HESG headquarters in Vietnam. Not sure what either have to do with investing.
A very vague answer. So Finra approves the merger only to have dtc put a chill on the stock shortly thereafter?
More questions than answers and the jolly red buccaneer continues to sandbag the shareholders.
Yes thanks. You go first. Very selective you are. Beneath that I stated I was able to sell some at .0003
There is no reason to buy other than pure speculation about a short squeeze. Which has not occurred in almost 3 years since that was postulated.
No one is rushing to get some when AS is 50 billion.
More plausible is the idea of a shell set up offshore to clean up the long held short via systematic share distribution.
You honestly think that nite with the cash on hand they possess is going to get creamed on a squeeze play when there is no enforcement time frame within which they are required to cover? This is the latest in the 3 year saga of a dead stock that becomes the walking dead once or twice a year for a few days at a time.
Have fun. My orders are set and re set at my exit and thanks to guys like you I get an occasional fill that gets me out one block at a time.
You know when you live in a small town folks like to say you don't ever lose your girlfriend you just loose your turn. Well HESG is kinda like that. You may lose your turn for awhile but eventually every once and a while you get to spend a weekend with her.
I guess we'll see.
Lotto is backed up by the state. Proven winners are abound.
You know what they say about penny stock scams?
You can't win if they don't pay!!
Glty.
Brother, you know what they say about a duck right?
I'm stuck here going on 4 years. Got lucky enough to get rid of some .0003's a little while back. I set my orders and forget em but do stop by on occasion to see what kind of fantastic jibberish is being slung about.
I wouldn't buy this now as a lotto pick. I can go to the Hard Rock and they will give me 50:50 on blackjack and better odds than HESG on a host of other games. Plus they have cocktails served up by pretty girls. Something HESG just can't compete with. ;)
It appears that:
Gary is busy working at his telecom job in New York
Theresa is a CPA for hire in Florida
Eli is a shill for hire at Bull$hit Consulting in New York conjuring up schemes and looking for empty shells to plug desperate, cash poor, private and public companies into
And Roger's crew is spread about the American west from Michigan to Arizona to California.
They are a National firm you know.
I think that the lying scumbags that hold all of the voting power like it just like it is. A toothless paper tiger of a CEO and mgmt staff is very easy for Roger and Eli to manipulate. Roger is a king pin here as he holds the majority of the preferred shares right?
Riddle me this: a private company with a formerly successful business has debtors to satisfy for the use of another entity's proprietary software/hardware. The debtors offer an ultimatum of pay up or we walk with our tech and leave you high and dry. A desperate Roger Goetz meets career scumbag Eli Kauderer and Eli informs him of how he can get the funding he so desperately needs to fund upgrades in tech and pay royalties to the owners of that tech that will allow him to renew existing contracts and pursue new deals. Since no one really wants to sell their baby, especially in a fire sale which in this case would mean giving up a percentage of ownership to public offering via a reverse merger into a cleanish shell made available through Eli Kauderer. The deal that was made is a compromise that will provide the finding on exchange for a piece of the pie with the caveat that Roger and co retain controlling interest via the large number of preferred shares.
Flash forward through the merger and court case judgements and Roger is feeling a little lighter in the pocket than he expected to be after the dog and pony sales pitch that Eli had painted for him.
I feel that there are two forces at odds here with the shareholders. Eli and his change in tact of how this play was to have worked out, which was spurred on by Roger's kicking and screaming and stamping his feet because things didn't go quite as expected. One is reacting to the other inversely.
So, now in the last month we have heard from so many little birdies everything from an S-1 filing being prepared and waiting for Gary's signature, we have heard that a Reg -A fling would be forthcoming "next week". We have had a string of family deaths, sick children, and the dog ate my homework stories, and now we are told by that busy little bird that there will be an attempt to re-visit the court ruling prior to the release of any filings.
Oh did I forget to mention the investor that the little bird said was personally paying for the audit to be completed 2 months ago? The same audit that once filed would provide the alleged $10m in financing? That same financing that one might think would satisfy the summary judgement payment schedule while at the same time provide for the alleged software upgrades that would spur renewed and new contracts?
The funny thing about a lie is that the more complex it gets the harder it is to keep it going. Liars 101 says make the lie big but also to keep it simple.
This jig is up. I want to see some blood personally but I'd settle for an image of the keystone cops management team in orange jumpsuits by the time of the next company picnic.
Ponder this. Gaffney left this pos to rot and just vacated a few years back knowing it was a dead dog.
If the proposed short position is as large as reported and there is no business ongoing since to speak of, what would stop an entity, say like NITE, from setting up an off shore corporation in Vietnam that could take over a worthless shell with a bloated SS, increase the AS to 50 billion and get a OTC current status all so that they could provide the shares that Nite needs to cover a naked short position that has been open for several years?
What other reason could one justify that kind of AS for a company that has 0 revenue and no ongoing business? Who in their right mind would ever buy a long position here based on the current and obviously intended future SS?
The only entity I can imagine is a short being pressured to cover their open position. There is no future in being long here as there is no way of seeing trillion dollar revenue and the most likely scenario being a whopping RS or series of RS. This is not a plan for any real business on earth. This is an excellent plan for a stuck short to cover on the cheap once the AS figure turns to OS.
The only testing going in at BG is:
1- testing the patience of the shareholders
2- testing of the intelligence of shareholders
3- testing of the Federal agencies re. how long he will be able to keep this charade alive.
So nice gotta post it twice.
"Sent email
Dear Mr. Aaron Stanz,
There are a few issues I would like to express regarding RIGH/BGMT. First Off, THANK YOU for your time answering my questions on the phone a few weeks ago.
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#1) The stock-symbol RIGH (76657X111 RightSmile, Inc.) is as you should know on the DTCC-CHILL-LIST http://www.dtcc.com/downloads/legal/imp_notices/2012/nscc/a7395.pdf
since March 16, 2012.
Why is RIGH on the DTCC-chill-list? What is the exact reason?
What have you done as of yet and what lays ahead to get RIGH off the DTCC-chill-list?
And how long do you think it will take to get off that list?
The reason why oversea-investors can't buy into RIGH is for the DTCC-chill. Don't you want them in the boat?
Don't you have any concerns that RIGH will be delisted, if you don't change RIGHs' DTCC status in time?
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#2) Why are both companies status' in default?
RIGHTSMILE, INC. http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=1MFhOt%252bzne3BM%252f3nmJqo5g%253d%253d
BG MEDICAL TECHNOLOGIES INC. http://nvsos.gov/SOSEntitySearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=cNnudFQfDF4%252fHBEIAFm%252fCQ%253d%253d&nt7=0
What is holding you back from filing?
Any reason not to file in time?
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#3) The last share structure update was July 10, 2012. Have these numbers changed since then?
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/RIGH/company-info
Shares Outstanding 3,969,206,740 a/o Sep 30, 2012
Float 3,294,206,740 a/o Apr 09, 2012
Authorized Shares 4,350,000,000 a/o Jul 10, 2012
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#4) In how far has the debt issue been taken care of? Has the debt been more reduced or completely eliminated?
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#5) How many employees are now working for BudGenius/BGMT?
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#6) Where are the labs BudGenius is using to test strains? Why is this information not public?
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#7) Will there be any FDA approvals in the near furture?
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#8) Why no more updates on your blog? http://angelstanz.wordpress.com/ , or FB and twitter?
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#9) Question from IHub-Poster "truckerjoeh" - yeah why their hiding out .. with no updates whats so ever.. i can't believe nothing has happened at all...
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#10) Question from IHub-Poster "shane622 " - Ask him if he forgot to issue a pr on this:
"A previously unannounced product is expected to be announced in early Q3 2012. No further details are being offered at this time due to the highly competitive impact this product/service is expected to create within the cannabis industry. This technology is currently under development."
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#11) Question from IHub-Poster "littlebrother1492": (What Angel, can you say about these issues?)
"Can't get a namechange when corporate papers are in DEFAULT and both RIGH and the Aaron created BG so that he could be given vote control shares of RIGH for his "company" that he created the same day that Randy announced the "huge RM" promotion PR so that the RIGH scam could continue under a "new CEO with a new company and a new business plan" are in default of state incorporation filings. Seems like the only ones getting the "business" are investors.
Of course, the "company" BudGenius.com is not registered anywhere and have no state business license anywhere.
The papers that control the RIGH SS expired on 9/30/2012, about 2 months after Aaron approved the 3rd AS increase within a 5 month period and have remained in default for 5 months now.
The "successful" BG expired on 12/31/2012.
Both "companies" went into default for not filing the "annual list of officers." Typical Aaron actions except for the 2 companies that Aaron created in Delaware to advance his "phone bill cramming" scams in 2009 and 2010. Come to think about it, those 2 "companies" are probably no longer viable "companies" with legal papers either. After all, now Aaron has a legal scam, RIGH. Although how legal can it be with papers in DEFAULT and an expired business license?"
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#12) Question from IHub-Poster "littlebrother1492" -
Why did you approve 3 AS increases and then allow the papers to go into default 2 months after the 3rd AS increase?
Why did you allow Randy to cite his old "media company" as "highly sought after" when he knew that the state of Florida had dissolved that "company" more than 3 years before the PR?
Why was BG Medical Technologies created the same day that Randy announced the "new CEO" and why would he be given controlling vote shares for a "company" that he had created the same day as the PR?
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#13) Question from IHub-Poster "littlebrother1492" -
One more question.
How did we go from "BudGenius.com, an online lab" to an "analytical lab" to "labs all over the USA?"
Why use a po box as if it is a real address?
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Angel, if it's your intention to "keep the house in order", then those issues listed above (#1, #2) should be taken care of in a timely matter, I think.
I hope to hear from you within a few days.
Sincerely,
xxxx (LuckyMe77) "
Those are all excellent questions that will unfortunately go unanswered as Angel will have, "the right to remain silent". He will also have a "right to an attorney or public defender", as if he can no more afford the filing fees to keep his scam an active company let alone pay $300-500/hr for an attorney.
This is worthy of re-posting daily.
In addition I will be forwarding all of these excellent questions to the compliance officer at the SEC and the office of the Ombudsman. I would suggest that given the excellent outline and content provided by the author of this post that all bag holders in this scam forward this exact text to the above agency and its compliance officers.
It's very concise and paints a clear image of the fallen "Angel".
How many real companies with a legit management team or BOD sit back and watch their stock get repeatedly manipulated down and do NOTHING about it.
Most CEOs, board chairmen, board chairs, etc. watch the value of their holdings get beat down every day for months and do nothing about it.
I've heard Cramer say 100 times that if the company insiders really know the value of what they are sitting on they buy up every last share the market wants to price so low. How much volume does anyone see here that we can attribute to this?
Oh none, right. Says a lot about what WAFR mgmt and insiders think about the value of their contracts.
This stock defies logic and flips the bird to law enforcement. How many times do you see a stock that gets the ask hit only to see the ask then drop or a sell below the bid?