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This is an easy one; when they get checks. To be more focused, I hope by the end of this month, but feel it will probably be Oct.
"All opinions are welcome on every Ihub board, your opinion is no better or worse than mine or anyone elses!!"
Are you kidding me? No, not all opinions are welcomed on Ihub and the moderators have taken off a few of mine to prove it. Outside of the official "you'all come" statements, most folks on the board really don't enjoy listening to negative posts either because they generally already have their money sunk into the company. And to say that an opinion is no better or worse than anothers is nonsense. You must be from the school of "pass them along regardless if they pass or fail a test!" There are opinions posted that are just blather of the silliest sense and are definitely not worth the time to pass over to the next comment. Snizzle, if you want people to take your comments seriously you need to get past anything goes. Do a little more DD on your own and get over your QS fetish. Tivus may sink like a stone, but all of us who have stock in this company want solid material to read and consider. GLTY. R3
Amen, Waggett! Talk about beating a dead horse. R3
Yes, it is no lose for Host if tech works. They are apparently satisfied the tech works, and they may dump 50 other hotels in a contract spread over time. Right now, I would be happy for Philly alone because Tivus can borrow against a time contract on a debt equity loan and begin to operate off of that financing versus stock financing, i.e. dilution. They have to pay interest, but at least they become eligible for other financing that is non-dilutive and gives them revenue to judge sp. R3
I don't follow your reasoning. Are you saying just lie about what you don't have to get the stock price up? R3
Tell me quickly what other financing was available for Tivus? And I do mean good financing! Would you all rather they never started? It's a crap shoot. Get your heads around the challenge, folks. This is why they are in penny stocks. You guys are not living in reality land. This is a gamble and they are playing their best hand which is dilutionland. Can they pull it off? Who knows, but don't act like they had other choices. R3
Steve H. emailed me and the needed letter is in preparation for an opinion to remove the "yield" sign. He went on further to say that Host wants to get out of the adult oriented business asap and they are not upset about the yield status. Apparently they understand that a new public company is going to go through these ups and downs as they push toward business viability.
This is a tough time because we all want Tivus to get that first revenue posted and get away from equity financing. It is like watching grass grow, and that is compounded by dumb comments from people who ideally want this company to stay in penny land. Earnings (revenue profit) will move this company to a more stable picture and that makes it less available to whim investing. So, right now I want Host to be an ORCA and get Tivus their Philly contract. R3 Fry Guppy
And you hang around here because why? And don't give me this stuff about how it's your "right". And while I am not saying you are any of the above, it's people's right to be stupid, ignorant, uninformed, pugnacious, and illiterate too. I just wouldn't recommend exposing those attributes to friends or enemies. Perhaps you feel the need to be the savior of all us poor, ignorant Tivus' investors? If so, try a different occupation. One religion already has that job filled and you ain't it. GLTY R3
More nonsense from stanleyhouse; yawn! Tivus stands in need of what it has always needed: Revenue and contracts. Nothing more, nothing less. R3
Ace, no problem with me. I don't read your postings that closely so it is what it is. I just thought you might care that you posted information that was in error, but you don't need any apology here. R3
SH has always replied to my inquiries and has done so normally within a short period of time. He is as frustrated about the financing as we are, but has limited control over corporate decisions at this level. R3
OK, you hurt your credibility when you say that Tivus has a "stop" sign when indeed they have a "yield" sign. The two are not the same and I can only assume you are careless or are overstating the status. Either way, it does not bode well for people listening to your comments with any degree of confidence. IMHO you need to be more accurate in the data you release on the board. R3
I can't believe that one person can come on this board and dominate conversation while more important things are left to languish. Like, Tivus, how could we slip into a "yield" status when we are trying to finish a deal with Host? Not tending to essential business is more of a warning sign than what company we use to pump the stock. How about no word from Tivus, and we are closing in on a month since the CC. IMHO the two things above are far more important versus QS and their work for Tivus. Again, let's get our eye back on the ball. R3
Outside of huge dilution, everything is wonderful and Tivus is progressing as a thriving business. R3
The snizzles of the world can't admit they are wrong, so then they deflect to another "doubt". It is always easier to cast doubt then to build anything positive. Tivus is trying to build something of value and that takes risk and using the cards you are dealt, not the ones you would like to have. This stock is highly diluted and no one wants those cards, but it is what it is. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT IN THE END TIVUS WILL NOT BE LOADED WITH VALUE! Again, keep your eye on the ball, not on the windup. R3
By the way, if the OS gets to 600,000,000 and a $30 million contract comes from host with a 40% return on eps, this stock will still be worth .30 based upon a 15'xs ratio. Will you make money on this investment? The RS concept is past and for the near future, the company has decided to let this play out in the sub-penny market. Keep you eye on the ball, not on the windup. R3
Waggett has earned his stripes on this board. I trust his judgement.
Folks have lost perspective. This is a penny stock trying to make it in a terrible financial world. Here are the questions: Is the technology real? Will Host sign contracts with Tivus? Will Tivus be profitable, even if diluted? Answer those questions, and then invest or get out. This ain't rocket science.
Tivus, be an ORCA and get Host to the table! R3 Fry Guppy
"The call's breakthrough announcement that TiVUS' MOU with Host Hotels & Resorts is producing its first multi-million dollar HD IPTV contract four months earlier than expected was the highpoint of Thursday's call. TiVUS reported specific details of the new five-year contract would soon be forthcoming."
This has been over one month since Tivus made this announcement. We already know it is multi-million $'s, and we know it is a 5 year contract. This certainly indicates that they already know the amount and for whatever inexplicable reason, they have not reported it! Come on, Tivus, this is not making any sense. You announce everything but the specific amount (which is what you need to get debt loans to take pressure off the equity market) which is what you need to get sp up and pressure off the equity holdings.
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Yawn. R3
Same old story, folks. REVENUE is KING! Need the contracts! GLTA. R3
I think we know by now that the Tivus "normal" is "abnormal". That is not the company's fault, but the result of this financing arrangement that we all know has been toxic. I really do believe that Tivus had few options in it's quiver of financing arrows. Ouch!
The increase in AS should help a little going forward in that it will take some of the tension about of the market, but $'s are the cure all. The one area I still question is the effectiveness of QS. We pay these folks and yet our stock is not on the "Ones to watch". What is that all about? Really, our paid representatives don't think we are worthy of watching? That's like giving a dog a bone and then the dog pees on your bushes, poops in your yard, buries the bone and comes back for more bones because he did such a good job of fertilizing your yard! I guess I just don't understand their strategy.
Tivu, be an ORCA. R3 Fry Guppy
As much as we all like to think that a board is filled with people wanting to see a stock succeed, for every person here there is a different reason for them being present. So we come here for entertainment, for reflection, for some exchange of relevant (hopefully)information and support. But we don't come here guaranteeing motives of every person that comes on this site. Our motives mean we look at this stock from a different perspective. So be it.
When you want information, do your own DD, but don't do it on this site. There are too many motives influencing what gets posted. Don't get depressed over anyone's comments. We all just contribute some piece to the pie. But here is one thing we all need to consider: It is much easier to cast doubt than to build a castle. SP and company are trying to build a castle and it looks easy from the cheap seats. It isn't. Good Luck SP and company. Be an ORCA, Tivus. R3 Fry Guppy.
I love the play! We all know the options before Host have been bad and not improving. The 1 billion gives us breathing room, but the real play is in the $'s of the contract. Big contracts will still be the rescue mode. You can buy a lot of shares back with a $30 million contract (and yes I know only a small portion of $'s can be used) and that should be their goal. We wait patiently for the results of the Host agreement. Tivus, if you have the $3 million deal with Philly done, GET IT ON THE PR BOARD! Once DT is up AT ANY STAGE, get it on the pr board! If Host gets done soon, GET IT ON THE PR BOARD! In this is their salvation and growth into a company of means and will take us beyond this current tight rope we are all walking. R3
Amen. R3
Like I said, who is going to believe Stanley? Raising doubts cuts both ways and when all you do is question with very old questions Tivus (Tivus: a company that has been one of the most revealing pinkies in pinky history!)don't be surprised if many longs here don't pay any attention to you. Good luck shorting your next stock. R3
And after all this is done (and all this has already been done a million times over) who is to believe Stanley? No offense, Stanley, but I will go on my own DD. And as an actual owner of Tivus' shares, I would prefer you not wage a campaign to irritate customer hotel managers. JMHO. R3
Wow you guys need to dump this bad stock! Don't hold on to something that isn't any good by your own sage advice. Sell quickly and minimize your losses. Thanks for all your hard work and dynamic conclusions. R3
Investment and share price is always based upon the future expectations of sales. That is why IF there are future contracts let with Host, multiples have to be applied to the PE ratio. IMO, doing 3-5 hotels is fine, but seems pretty timid for a group that called Shiva back in 4 months early to get this moving. In any case, figuring earnings at 40% of contract price and with a multiple of 15-20x's, even a $10 million contract would put a price at 300,000,000 OS way beyond a single penny rate, based upon future expectations. JMHO. If people have other #'s based upon future growth, I am more than willing to listen.
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If what the company is saying about Host and this contract is right, we should be seeing a multiple hotel, multi-million $ contract shortly. I predict a $3 million contract for Philly, and a 10 hotel redo for $30 million over the next 12 months, unless there is remodeling going on at the same time. The company can retro-fit a hotel much more rapidly without remodeling. With $33 million in business coming forward, share price should finally begin to run up to the .60-.80 range by the Fall, even with an OS of 300,000,000. When MGM signs, we are looking at considerably more and that $1 ps by year's end. This is my "If everything goes as planned" scenario. Tivus, be an ORCA! R3 Fry Guppy
On 9/11 it is estimated that firefighters and police saved over 20,000 people. R3
We all have a profound sense of gratitude for the bravery and courage of those public servants who rushed headlong into the towers on 9/11 to save citizens they did not know and would never know. The same can be said for the military personnel at the Pentagon and the civilians on Flight 93. We should always remember that this country is founded on "We the people" and our government and system is "us". It isn't perfect, but when you see a firefighter, policeman, civil servant,(Never forget Oklahoma City and all who died there as well) emt, teacher, soldier, sailor, marine, airman, etc., thank them for their service and perhaps, let's think twice the next time we attack them for being "pigs at the government trough", or overpaid and lazy people who can't do anything else. By the hundreds and thousands, they die for us. R3
Yawn. Many of the posters who have been here for a while are waiting for Host. No need to ramp up mindless exchanges before there is something of substance upon which to comment. Zzzzzz. R3
Smokey, why do you take news like this and act like no one knows they are doing this? It isn't news because it isn't accurate and doesn't help the company. The only BIG news will be the announcement WITH HOST that there is a contract amount of about $30 million between Tivus and their hotels. That is what is needed. R3
Now let's be clear. This announcement won't move a thing. Go back up to the pr's from one year ago. You will find the announcement of the contract with DT. The fact that we are finally announcing installation one year later cannot produce any real sense of overwhelming confidence. I am not sure why Shiva decided to throw this pr on the pile. Personally, I would have played this quiet until the installation was complete at year's end and then announced it's completion. This will only result in people calling the GM and asking if he has any Tivus' televisions on site! I am not sure who is advising SP but IMHO, this was a boneheaded move that will casts doubt on the capacity of Tivus to fulfill a small order, let alone thousands of new rooms from bigger companies. R3
This whole Doubltree thing has been smokey at best. I am not sure it is anything more than Tivus fumbling through start up jitters, not a very appealing announcement given the Host announcement. BTW, I doubt that Doubletree in Vegas has enough rooms to qualify for Tivus services. This was one hotel in one city in one state. I hope the fact it has taken one full year to move on this installation doesn't blow up in Tivus' face. R3.
This type of marketing shows that Tivus has been presenting before some big hospitality players. But the overall importance of the Host/Marriott deal cannot be overemphasized because the first one is always the toughest! And getting the first one with a company with the reputation and strength of Host has the potential of moving a company as big as MGM. Tivus at present is a two bit company with a great product, but limited resources and dubious reputation as far as being a player in this industry. Host and that 18 month build out contract for other hotels is critical to making Tivus a player. Let's hope that this pushes Tivus to be that ORCA! R3 Fry Guppy
Aria and Vdara are two of the jewels of City Center, just opened a little over a year. Belagio, City Center, Mirage, Mandalay Bay, MGM Grand, and more all belong to MGM. It is the largest holder of hospitality property in Vegas. R3
Wow! Are my eyes deceiving me or is that name of the Belagio as the hotel? I hope that someone hasn't screwed up, but the Belagio is the flagship of MGM Grand, the largest owners of hospitality in Las Vegas. Someone needs to check out this ad. If true,and I don't think that they would put Belagio without MGM permission. This could be a huge tip off or a law suit. Go Tivus, be an ORCA. R3 Fry Guppy
We have, stanleyhouse. You are the one raising these questions. R3
A simple definition, which I think will help stabilize our trading going forward and probably result in sp increase. Strictly IMHO, this was a result of our legal people and SP seeing this stock abused by naked short sellers.
Trade to Trade: That means you cannot sell such shares the same day u buy them, you have to take delivery and sell only after delivery comes in your account., in other words these are purely delivery based shares and not available for intraday trade.
GLTA. R3