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yes, everyone please cancel all your buys....it's amazing you spend your ihub career whining about bids..
if you got your way there would be no bidders...then when it's .0031 x .0085 nobody would have any interest in ever buying again - how is that helpful?
yup, most days sell the close into hod and buy back next morning dip has worked to perfection..
but today a lot of people unloaded going into w/end and it closed a ways down from hod - i like these set ups for gap and run..loaded the dip in last 20 minutes..guess we'll see on monday..enough liquidity for everyone
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nope posting on the right stock...
and you will know when the old shareholder or whomever gets done, cause a day like this will move it .005 to .015 on air..imo no more 5 mil blocks endless refresh selling w/ nite/csti/cdel..hopefully we're close..
dude, we're on the same side here...
and still they have shares to dump...going to be nice when they finally run out...
this is even harder to track because if it were regular dilution one could track with TA and figure out when they're running out....
hopefully whomever it is with the hundreds of millions to dump - is nearly done...much more fun and profitable when it's trading "freely"...
i did exactly the opposite of what you said and did great, thanks for the contrarian indicator!
bought the .096's, .093's even .0912 they whacked me..
just sold some .11's
ok, good advice, will do...thanks
interesting thought, i haven't read any filings, but something like that would make sense...
i have been trading this thing since .0005x.0006 and this was free trading on the first 1,000% move...then during the last week something changed - not dilution (there have been no large a/h t-trades nor any large odd prints intraday signaling dilution) but rather someone using retail channels to unload hundreds of millions of shares...at moments when the chart was perfect and should have moved with ease, they continue to use cdel, csti and nite to put 1 mil, 2 mil 1.7 mil, 3 mil, 4 mil blocks on the ask and then every large bid is whacked...someone that seems to just want to get out and/or keep this in a certain range for a bit longer, not sure which..
and no, i don't subscribe to the idea that some entity is shorting hundreds of millions of shares of a .004 stock lol, it is something else...inventory became available imo..
having said all that, with the volume and the possibilities for good news and forward looking events, my opinion is that once whatever remaining shares are finally let out, this will have a much bigger move coming soon..
with nearly all the big movers lately, there has been the initial big run, then some huge pullbacks (see usrm, mmex for example) and after consolidation when many people have given up, then they start moving on air over the course of a week or so...way way higher..
and this isn't directed at you, but for those that say this needs to generate revenue first to continue moving, that's rarely how the pennies work..most of the biggest movers ever are on speculation of possible future revenues, most of the time never realized but doesn't matter...i could cite 50 of the greatest movers that were total scams and/or never made a cent of profit, let alone revenue ha...but ran like scalded cats for 1,000-30,000%
we'll see, but keeping a close eye on when the refresh ask seller and big block bid whacker is done, should get exciting again..all imho
it's fun to paper trade!
how much $ margin does your short require right now?
when i have hit him b4 he moved up on like 20k shares : )
what's up buddy..
your L2 got stuck, mica is out the box for now..but like usual on the high volume plays he did show up this morning and stayed inside bid and ask to monitor flow for hours..bastage
perhaps, although they really seemed to have backed off yday and especially today..we'll see..
either way we're close..now just don't raise the a/s
thanks..
waiting on your daily update of o/s ha..i'm assuming you have email in and waiting..
i wonder if they pushed it out a bit in order to finish the conversions and be able to have a positive to discuss...all just conjecture on my part..such an interesting set up here...
ideally we max out, then they announce dilution is over and some other news of selling something to pay off the rest of the debt..and no r/s, and she goes crazy..
even if they did announce a r/s, there would be a window of no dilution until that date and we could still get some crazy moves imo..and of course the last few months post r/s stocks have run crazy, so it's impossible to say what will happen..
nobody knows..
ya, we only need a few more days and the o/s would be maxed, then she trades freely and into the earnings/cc etc.. (please company don't amend a/s or talk r/s, let this story build as the o/s maxes out tia ha)
well the nice part is that the diluters are letting it run each day before hammering it...the $ volume is incredible..heck let's just max out the o/s to the authorized in the next few days and trade with 500 million..no dilution (hopefully we get a huge window after it's maxed and the company doesn't touch the a/s or mention r/s and let's it run for a while, tia)
the good news is if they still have some more to dump at least they are letting it breath, and also the higher price they sell, the more debt being paid...
looks like about another $600k +/- cleaned off the debt today..
it doesn't have to be but when the printed price is the odd .018404 when ask is .017, that is the printed total..those odd prices are the total they've sold and their average price...
and there it is..
should see another decent size block print soon...keep cleanin' it up..
it smells like dilution because it is dilution, and not just VNDM, but ARCA, CDEL (at times when not retail) etc..
nobody disputes that it is dilution, that's why it's way down here..the question in play is when does the dilution end...and with the huge $ volume trading down here this week, the hope is sooner rather than later...
these types nearly always hurt before they feel good..u just hope they eventually come out right..
it's like he's got a mandate to get it all done asap..these are never easy, till they are ha..
would love to peek over his shoulder at his books and see what he's got left to dump : )
agreed, right now traders load, then they see vndm, vert, arca, cdel dt the ask and they whack out in fear...everyone grows accustom to bailing when there's obvious dilution..
just thinking the day comes soon where suddenly they're not there anymore...and she ut's on air for hours and days..and that moment usually comes after most have just given up and lost patience..
that can be discouraging, especially with stocks that have billions of shares to dump..
in this case, unless my numbers are wrong, the a/s is 500 million..there is a cap ( at least for the short term) on how much more they can sell, and with 186 million shares traded today, hopefully it's getting cleaned up nicely..
def. risky, but like the r/r here myself..
they were done intraday as large cross trades..we'll see what tomorrow brings, hopefully it's close
yes, much better w/ some end of day sellers...like the set up for tomorrow..
if the dilution had stopped it would be ut'ing on air..it's not stopped yet, cdel, arca vndm taking turns dumping, and from time to time you see the monster prints showing their totals..hopefully it's getting close..
there is massive dilution happening right now, and there is massive volume and buying also..somewhere the demand eventually exceeds the supply, when and where is the question...bets are being placed..
cdel and arca been taking turns for a while..
i think most of this is the conversions being sold..it's never easy close to bottom, always tough to know exactly when they finish up..but w/ this daily volume hopefully it's close imo...
wouldn't it be better to quit posting the future share price? why not just trade? you also said it would hit .04 this week and that you are never wrong on this stock..oops
i was mentioning earlier that in my experience when a company announces that conversions are done, that is not the same as saying all the shares have been sold into the market..
so what you're seeing with vfin now, imo, is the selling of those shares that have been converted..don't know if he'll be done in 30 minutes, 1 day, 1 week, but would think he's very close..
hopefully we get some high volume days to clean it up for good and then smooth sailing..
nice! i gave up for .02 loss in the .30's then had my buys too low for the real bounce
oops .24-.26 load woulda worked ha
PTCO - endless tankage..have tried bouncing once and had to give up...at some point you'd think a dead cat bounce at least..
there will always be a few who see vfin or some selling and get scared out of their positions..not realizing that even though conversion is done, selling the shares into market might still take just a tad longer..but it should be real close : )
who is the outfit? tia