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Remember, lots of flippers still here...
A big gain this morning was a great opportunity for the guys who bought at the .003's and .004's to capture a big gain... doesn't help us longs much, but I see it as a reason we need BIG news to sustain a run up.
They will flip forever if this keeps seesawing.
Thanks for your insights, Abby... looks like you know what you are doing...
Hope we get away from the needless deletions here... spoils the board.
News soon (should be!)
nice little move up...
A PR from Mak would be very nice....
Yep.
Waiting for the month end update by SH. Has to be very soon, eh?
If he doesn't come through, his name will be guano.
I think he will, hopefully with a blockbuster.
I have been in labor for 2 weeks (feels like) hope I deliver today.
basic math:
If the OS is at 200 million or less...
We longs are going to do GREAT.
If, as indicated on independent web sites it is around 100 million OS...
We longs will make a TON.
Here's hoping... any day now...
Could be Bill...
But my point is, why is it not happening?
If WebDA is all it is cracked up to be, I would think at this PPS some big company would want it.
If they can acquire it on the cheap... why not?
Might be bad for one or the other companies... but it would perk up the PPS nicely... right?
If they offered .05/share, they would get tons and control, and I could live with it!
I think .10/share would suit me just fine, Bo, and I agree with you.
Should have the update in a few days, hope it is a doozy!
And if good news, in Feb... we rock and roll.
Boy, if that is correct...
We gonna fly soon... $250,000 in earnings with a PE of 25 = .057 PPS. If your link is accurate, looks like a very good thing here.
I am still puzzled... why doesn't a big software company, like that which offers ACT, SAP, etc, pick up this WebDA for cheap?? If insiders control only 35-40 million shares, anybody with a few bucks can buy control for CHEAP.
And if the "debtors" have a significant number of unregistered shares... IF... why would they sell out at these prices? Didn't they loan money assuming a PPS of over .015? And they are looking for a profit, not a break-even.
Thoughts?
Agreed, sorry... by net revenue, I meant earnings...
My clumsy.
But, with projected revenues, if even close, I think we get there...
And hopefully, SH is not such a fool as to get involved in a toxic financing situation, although, apparently, he has associated himself with a guy of dubious character...
We find out soon.
Finger is on the trigger... sell out or load up.
I think anything less than 200 million, and we are in for a ride upwards... strong.
That is, with strict control over the AS too...
Why?
$500,000 revenue net, on 200 million with a PE of 25 (all reasonable within the next year or sooner)
Equals .06 PPS.
Now THAT is a happy New Year!
(See projected revenues from SH)
No, not yet...
It is one of my holiday wishes....
Good luck!
Powerball: 11
Holiday wishes...
Mak has it all under control...
Mak has a new deal in the final stages, and it is BIG!
WWTBAM revenues are a HUGE upside surprise...
Existing business continues to grow fast...
No more dilution...
I win the Powerball.
Hey, why not dream big?
Enjoy the holidays, everyone!
I don't think so, Print...
If that was the case, the provision would be meaningless.
They can only convert a max of 4.99%. That means a max. If they could continue to dump and keep it at 4.99%, why have the provision at all?
And the management can't be that foolish.
Not too long before the update, everyone needs to chill, just for a little longer... We will see.
Wierdo is toxic. Don't know what his game is, but he sounds like he is about to unravel.... Needs some strong meds.
Go, P2d, GO!!
Get after the slammers, boy, Go for the throat!!
I love it!
Merc, cheer up and get back in here!
Hi, TG!
Didn't I see you on the AAGH board? Welcome! Good to have you here.
Bad times with the PPS, but high hopes...
And if this does not fly soon, I will have to get higher and higher!
yes, this price blows.
But I doubt that they can convert 4.99% PER DAY... I think there are limits, otherwise, why have that restriction in the wording? It would be worthless... I think the CEO is sharper than that... and as usual, wierdo, you don't know.
As far as the 10K "bets", give it a rest, unless you post your name, address and phone number... how do we collect from a guy only known as wierdo?
I have trimmed my position considerably, thank Buddha, but still see potential here.
P.S. Why be such a sour, caustic, S-bag? Enjoy others problems?
Get a life... elsewhere.
Up .02 on 6,000 volume?
I like the increase, but it looks fishy on the tiny volume....
I am not sharp enough for the games the MM's play, if this is one...
I think the '08 PR's will help get this thing going...
The water thing? Never could figure it out... Coke and other super majors have the water, so why go with a no name? And Coke (Dasani) can blow them away on price if they wish... I think that might be a pump/dump play... IMO.
Come on, Mak, we need to get back to the .30's!!!
Have a happy!
Nice job, Fred/P2d,
Wonder what the Wierdo has to say about that?
Pretty clear to me. And, if the shares are controlled, we will get past all of this angst. Company needs cash, but who does not?
Heck, I don't mind tax loss selling at these price levels, who can blame them?
But the guys who spread false info, especially paid bashers, may they all crash and burn...
All that being said, have a happy holiday!
A very good point.
I think the news will be good.
Of course, with the current assumptions, it can't be worse.
Sorry, pal,
You have no idea what debt survived until the BK is discharged.
Do you expect a warm welcome here when you are trying to drive the price down so your shorting strategy works?
Why warn us, as you make money as this goes down... right?
I don't think you can be trusted, and your info is plain not true at this time. It might be, but I doubt it.
Your agenda is against all longs... why not take a hike? Thanks for your bogus input, and good bye.
Good idea, but I don't think they will share the details...
IF the update includes info on the Stronghold BK and associated nasty CD's and billions of shares, and clears that up...
What a huge pos that would be.
And, IMO, it will.
If it is 150 million, folks like Wierdo who are shorting will be hammered, and hammered big time.
We can hope, and it very well may be close to that number.
He is probably a paid basher, and like a rabid dog, better to leave it alone or shoot it.
Wierdo...
What benefit is there to the "Lender" selling at .004?
Especially with a recent PPS in the .02 range? They are not fools, are they? They took the debt as a business decision... anticipating growth in the Company and the PPS. Why would they cut their own throat?
And I am not at all sure that the majority of the debt will be discharged in the Stronghold BK. Do you have info that disputes this? How would you know?
Sure there is a deal of uncertainty on the OS/AS, but IF the BK wipes out the "Billions" of CD, then we go up big and, hopefully, you take a ROYAL roasting.
No offense.
Perhaps...
but would it not be more beneficial to the company insiders to have the stock price increase significantly?
And therefore, maybe controlling the OS/AS would be a great thing for them as well as us?
What good is it to insiders to have a share price of .004? How much better to control it, thereby maybe a return to the .02's, providing much better position to sell more shares for expansion or even for personal gain at that much higher PPS?
I can see the benefit of forcing the PPS down, but they don't make a killing until it comes back up strong... right?
If this is a one time fleecing of the shareholders, I could see it. If not, I think it benefits the company to show control and moderation and have the PPS significantly increase.
That was not aimed at you, P2d, I think we are on the same page here...
We need some cheese and crackers to go with all of the whine here...
Either a big winner or a big loser. I am gambling on the former.
maybe I'll be shelled, but I am already, so what the hay... you can't win if you don't play... and this stock is a pretty good bet, compared to many, many others...
Invest in Apple if you need a safe bet.
looks like a panic here...
What has changed?
Who knows if the MM's are doing what they do or not...
Only news and updates on OS/AS and revenues, and new deals or expanded deals will tell the story...
And we have to wait for that.
You don't like it? Sell out and be more comfortable. Why groan and moan about it... same old stuff here.
Solid news will either make it run or make ME run... either way, we will have a little more to base decisions on.
Take a shot of Stoli and Reeeeeelax!
That, my friend,
Is THE question... should know about the situation if SH gives us a PR or newsletter with a GOOD update on shares OS and AS.
If it is good news, and he does not skirt the issue, this bad boy will run...
If he does not... ugh.
I think he is aware of our angst on this issue, so the update will tell us a great deal about our CEO.
Hope he makes us proud.
If the month end "newsletter" ...
Speaks positively to the OS/AS thing, we will all have a great new year!
Except, of course the shorties!
Check out ICBM... interesting.
74K volume?
Guess nobody is breaking down the door to buy this...
But not much selling either... amazing!
All credit to those holding to their convictions, must have big onions.
Hope no one is badly mauled... except Dino if he is a crook.
Hi, guys, new here...
Looks like some nice give and take here, all in the spirit of good humor and brotherhood... LOL!
If the 12 million deal is real, over 5 years, that is 2.4 Million/year, divided by 2 billion (for giggles) and using a reasonable P/E of 25...
That gets this to .03/share if the other business covers all expense.
Does not sound too bad... what am I missing?
And that is just one deal, right?
Do I need more wine here?
Well , gagged Tsfr agents...
holding onto either bad news or good news.
Gambling.
Seems like the bad news is built into this decline from .02's...
So... maybe a shocker with really good news coming.
Who knows... except of course, Wierdo!
I agree, yank,
My concern is... what is the big secret?
Not too long to wait, hope they are planning a PR that is really positive on the OS and AS... maybe THAT is why he is waiting... on this crucial issue, to get a BIG pos response to the details...
I hope!
Dang, Little! I like your thinking!
Where is Media???
A few more PR's... would be nice. Seems he could have talked a bit about the WWTBAM revenues to date... maybe he is saving it for a BIG PR...
This thing is looking pretty good... as long as MAK can restrain himself on the S-8 gifts he hands out regularly...!!
I am comfortable holding here...
The 3 dealerships is good news, because they have all ADDED WebDA to their existing business with Dealer Advance, so additional revenues here...
The stall on letting us know the OS and AS is a bummer, and SH needs to come clean... BUT if everything is cool, around 115-140 million OS, and a note that significant dilution will not occur unless a new opportunity come up... would be a HUGE PR and a zoomer to the PPS.
The dips are the MM's and flippers making a nice score... not worried, they will do this again and again until a BIG PR moves this way up.
Maybe I should join the flippers?
Looks like the flippers did their thing...
Well, maybe they will buy back soon, or be burned if it jumps strong at open!
Nice run, hope the upward pressure builds.
Hope this is just a beginning...
I always wondered why the bottled water thing is running... seems the majors like Coke and others would have that market wrapped up... why is a no-name able to sell it... cheaper, maybe?
Han, you can be a butt-head sometimes, but you seem to have a good heart. My best to your friend.
Perhaps remind him that life is just a dream within a dream...
Happy Holidays to all.
What, you don't believe this buyout is going to go through???
Come on, Burp! How about a little pos vibe here?
LOL
Don't mean to be cruel, but time to bail on this one, and try to recoup elsewhere... I got out awhile ago with a loss, but at these levels, whew!! People are getting creamed.
Remember CC somebody had $100K in this? Man O man.
AAGH, ICBM, DLAV good alternatives to do a little DD on, just IMO.
I agree, Rube...
Mak loves his dilution... if he can stop the S-8 stuff for a year or two, we might see some great moves here!
Or even for 3 months!!
You seem to forget that the Dinos...
Put out a PR that indicated that the board of the purchaser had already approved the buyout, and that all that was left was a vote of DMTN shareholders.
This was a blatant LIE.
Now the deal is a big maybe, and the "deal" is now for negotiations not closing the thing at .49/share.
With the big lies told in the past, for you to continue to paint these guys as honorable with a great business, etc...
Is an absolute bellow.
P.S. The PPS is .03. Think anybody believes anything the Dinos say?
Great news!!
Way to go MAK!
I picked up another chunk at .10...
And on to the .30's...!!
WWTBAM revenues should be another great upside surprise...
Go, man, GO!!