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HK unveils $800M plan to pay back Lehman investors
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/HK-unveils-800M-plan-to-pay-apf-2093904818.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=
Good luck finding another stock that could possibly bring 1000+ per share face value. I'm holding out until the END.
I'm sure there are already millionaires from the Ks and Ps, so I don't see any reason why the commons would be any different. It all depends on how this pans out.
I wish everyone the best of luck.
Going to the Grand Cayman Island tonight for a week. In might be in my best interest to open a bank account for my wamu and lehman deposits :)
Keep up the good work on these stocks.
Gotta love it.
All classes are green. Go Wamu!!!
A lot of attention being given to this class today.
If they keep pulling the Js down... I'm going to load up the dump truck :)
Yup, I will check the doc site.
I can't answer your question about the lehman bonds as I do not trade them. Just know where to find the bond prices.
Maybe someone here can answer your question...
Thanks for taking the time to attend and giving us the chance to ask questions.
Go Lehman Brothers!!!
It may mean nothing, but it sure looks good :)
We should see some nice action at closing today.
Overheard: Rescue From the Lehman Shipwreck
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124683780510598019.html
Another rescue from the Lehman shipwreck. After drifting for months, the $23 million Lehman Brothers Foundation and some of its employees have reached dry land. Not with Barclays, which bought the bankrupt firm's U.S. business, but with Neuberger Berman. The asset-management company was itself acquired from the Lehman wreckage by its executives -- at an attractive price. One good turn deserves another.
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It's hard to see a way out when you are at the bottom of the valley. But things can rebound surprisingly quickly.
Discussing the recent high-yield-bond rally, Martin Fridson, of Fridson Investment Advisors, recalls 1991, when he was standing amid the wreckage of an earlier bust. As a rare optimist at the time, he suggested that junk-bond issuance might one day return to $10 billion. In less than five years, the annual market was six times that level.
Great article from HROLLER...
http://www.patenthawk.com/blog/2009/04/wamu.html
Nope, not one share... so I went ahead and moved to 1.50 and got filled.
1.50 is a still a steal... IMHO.
I sat on 1.30 and 1.40 all day... and now all of sudden they give 12,000 shares to someone @ 1.30. This has to be the buddy system
ended up picking a few hundred @ 1.50...
12,000 shares @ 1.30.... Nice
WAMU, JP Morgan Chase, and the FDIC - Who exactly is looking out for you?
While the markets were closed, and the Chairman of Washington Mutual was on a flight from New York to Seattle, the largest theft in US history took place. Although there has been negative news about the financial stocks for the past few months, including Washington Mutual,the FDIC and Washington Mutual repeated assurances that the bank was in good shape through 2010 over and over and the fact that WaMu met it's daily requirements. If that is the case, the seizure and immediate for profit sale of WAMU to JP Morgan Chase raises many questions.
This isn't so much about the failure of WAMU, as that may have happened eventually anyway, but suddenly the FDIC has become a for profit institution taking over and selling off a company for 1.9 Billion dollars. This is unprecedented in many ways, and in many ways probably illegal. The shareholders own WAMU, not the FDIC. Yes, the FDIC regulates banking, however shareholders own the company. WAMU could have literally gone bankrupt and sold off chairs, computers, land etc and shareholders would have received some portion of compensation. In this seizure, Chase gets the assets and deposits at a bargain, the FDIC gets 1.9 Billion dollars and shareholders get nothing. It is literally something you might think would happen in Nazi Germany, not the United States.
It seems as if these failures are following a pattern that we are seeing over and over. First, short sellers work to smear the bank's reputation. Major media outlets join the fray. Analysts downgrade. Ratings agencies follow with downgrades. Cost of insurance skyrockets creating self-fulfilling prophecy. The Bank forced to come up with reserve capital to please ratings agencies. Dilution of shareholder equity at sale prices. Share price falls further triggering more downgrades from above-mentioned entities. The Media really starts to salivate now and creates all kinds of instability with doom and gloom, and seem outright gleeful about it. Then institutions and high net worth individuals begin pulling deposits out of the targeted bank. Further ratings agencies downgrades. The media then creates a self fulfilling prophesy with constant reporting of doom and gloom and individuals also pull their money out of the targeted bank. Then the FDIC having all the ammunition it needs steps in and seizes the bank assets and sells them to whoever they are in bed with that week.
Basically the government decided that they liked JP Morgan Chase so much as an institution that they would gift them this company.
It's worse than that though, last week Goldman Sachs upgraded WM to hold knowing all of this was going on. Serious misrepresentation of the facts. The story told to the public was that Goldman was supposed to be brokering a sale. This at the expense of average Americans. Sure there are a lot of institutions that owned shares in WAMU, but there are an incredible amount of average Americans who had large portions of their retirements tied up in WAMU stock. Without that upgrade, many may not have kept the stock through this trouble. Some are now threatening suicide. Families are breaking up. People have lost everything. How can the American public not be safe investing in an American Bank. A bank that owns assets, that had a large deposit base and that stated it could sustain life until 2010.
That doesn't even begin to mention that by next week the whole dynamics of WM could change for the better with the government bailout coming. Stock could have increased in value once the toxic paper was taken from WM. More liquidity would have been available. The 2010 deadline would be extended to many more years once the toxic paper was removed. This was not a bank in trouble in any of the standards that have been repeated over the last eighty years.
You really want to get upset about it, take a look at the aftermarket trading volume. Before any of this was announced, there were three very large trades in the early aftermarket, in a three minute period totaling almost 13 million shares. The FDIC and the markets allowed someone to get inside and make away with some 12 million dollars. nasdaq screenshot There is no way that trading should not have been suspended before this was allowed to happen, just another case of corruption and manipulation by the government and large institutions.
http://www.nutzworld.com/invest/wamu-how_the_government_failed_america.htm
Possibly the most damaging could be what this could do to the American psyche as a whole. The corruption in the system has just killed the morale and spirit of many people. They have no trust in Wall Street, the financial system, politics and the future of America! Corruption, short selling, manipulation of stock, and abusive ratings downgrades are all responsible for bringing this company down to the point that this could happen, and then a corrupt government agency cherry picked a bargain for their buddies at JPMorgan who get a huge upside. The FDIC facilitated a transaction that was so corrupt and damaging words cannot properly describe it.
In the end, it is the system as a whole that will lose, as the average American can no longer trust not only it's banking industry, or Wall Street, but apparently it's government anymore.
New Documents for today
http://chap11.epiqsystems.com/docket/docketlist.aspx?pk=de7ced2b-52e7-4172-92e1-9ec425933bd0
4252 6/30/2009 Motion to Authorize / Debtors Motion Pursuant to Sections 105 and 364 of the Bankruptcy Code Authorizing the Debtors to Grant First Priority Liens in Collateral Posted in Connection with Certain Hedging Transactions filed by Shai Waisman on behalf of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.. with hearing to be held on 7/15/2009 at 10:00 AM at Courtroom 601 (JMP) Responses due by 7/10/2009, (Waisman, Shai)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: none
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4251 6/30/2009 So Ordered Stipulation and Order Signed on 6/30/2009 Between the Examiner and Ernst & Young LLP. (Nulty, Lynda)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: none
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4250 6/30/2009 Second So Ordered Stipulation, Agreement and Order Signed on 6/30/2009 Between the Debtors and Rockefeller Center North Inc. Extending the Time to Assume or Reject Lease of Nonresidential Real Property at 1271 Avenue of the Americas. (related document(s)[3959]) (Nulty, Lynda)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: 3959
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4249 6/30/2009 Motion to Approve / Debtors Motion for an Order Pursuant to Section 365 of the Bankruptcy Code Approving the Assumption of Open Trade Confirmations with Three Basso Funds filed by Jacqueline Marcus on behalf of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.. with hearing to be held on 7/15/2009 at 10:00 AM at Courtroom 601 (JMP) Responses due by 7/10/2009, (Marcus, Jacqueline)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: none
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4248 6/30/2009 Second So Ordered Stipulation, Agreement and Order Signed on 6/30/2009 Between the Debtors and Historic TW Inc. Extending the Time to Assume or Reject Lease of Nonresidential Real Property at 1271 Avenue of the Americas. (related document(s)[3960]) (Nulty, Lynda)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: 3960
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4247 6/30/2009 Affidavit of Service of Paul Belobritsky of Epiq Bankruptcy Solutions, LLC (related document(s)[4214], [4205]) filed by Shai Waisman on behalf of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.. (Waisman, Shai)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: 4205, 4214
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4246 6/30/2009 Affidavit of Service of Paul Belobritsky of Epiq Bankruptcy Solutions, LLC (related document(s)[4226], [4227], [4228], [4229]) filed by Shai Waisman on behalf of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.. (Waisman, Shai)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: 4226, 4227, 4228, 4229
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4245 6/30/2009 Affidavit of Service of Herb Baer of Epiq Bankruptcy Solutions, LLC (related document(s)[4204]) filed by Shai Waisman on behalf of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.. (Waisman, Shai)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: 4204
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4244 6/30/2009 Affidavit of Service of Paul Belobritsky of Epiq Bankruptcy Solutions, LLC (related document(s)[4211]) filed by Shai Waisman on behalf of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.. (Waisman, Shai)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: 4211
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4243 6/30/2009 Affidavit of Service of Paul Belobritsky of Epiq Bankruptcy Solutions, LLC (related document(s)[4215]) filed by Shai Waisman on behalf of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.. (Waisman, Shai)
Debtor: Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc.
Related: 4215
I just submitted the form to both SEC and FINRA. I suggest everyone submit one as well.
I'm going to file a complaint to the SEC regardless.
http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml
It needs to be reported to the SEC that it's a cross trade.
from a stop loss. Expensive lesson learned for that trader.
Be careful with stop loss: Someone just lost 81,000 shares @ .05 on lehpq.
Expensive lesson learned.
Another Stop Loss @ 81,000: That is the reason why I don't use stop losses on these stocks. MMs just stole another 81,000 shares @ .05. Greedy bastards.
Ouch, that is an expensive lesson to learn.
That comment from Dimon sounds shady... He wants to keep the existing regulators as they are his partners in crime. Obama, bring in some new eyes and ears and lets get rid of the crooked regulators on Dimon's payroll.
"emphasis should be on strengthening existing regulators over creating new ones."
Love it, Lehmu!
It's not limited discovery folks; it's unlimited discovery.
Love my Lehman Wamu Parlay!!!
came across this article and thought you might be interested...
Dollar Libor Falls Below 0.6 Percent for First Time (Update1)
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By Gavin Finch
June 26 (Bloomberg) -- The cost of borrowing in dollars for three months in London dropped below 0.6 percent for the first time as central banks offered cash to financial institutions and signaled interest rates will stay at record lows.
The London interbank offered rate, or Libor, that banks charge for three-month loans fell half a basis point to 0.598 percent today, according to the British Bankers’ Association, taking its decline this year to 83 basis points. The rate, a benchmark for about $360 trillion of financial products around the world, peaked at 4.82 percent on Oct. 10 following the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. on Sept. 15.
The Federal Reserve said June 24 it would keep its target rate for overnight loans, currently between zero to 0.25 percent, at “exceptionally low levels” for an “extended period.” The European Central Bank yesterday lent banks 442 billion euros ($621 billion) for 12 months, the most it has ever allotted in an auction.
“Central banks are still flooding the markets with cash and that’s clearly continuing to ease the strains,” said Christoph Rieger, a fixed-income strategist at Commerzbank AG in Frankfurt. “There is still a distinct lack of liquidity though. Interbank lending volumes are very low.”
The drop in Libor and other measures of financial stress indicates that credit markets are recovering from the seizure that followed the collapse of Lehman. U.S. companies sold a record $751 billion of debt in 2009, 22 percent more than in the same period last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg, as the global economy showed signs of rebounding from the worst recession since World War II.
Greenspan’s Gauge
The Libor-OIS spread, a barometer of the reluctance of banks to lend, stayed at 38 basis points today, down from a peak of 364 basis points on Oct. 10. The spread, the premium banks charge over what traders predict the Fed’s daily effective federal funds rate will average over the next three months, averaged 26 basis points in the five years before the start of the credit crisis in August 2007.
Contracts traded in the forward market indicate the gauge will drop to 30 basis points by July 2011, within 5 basis points of the level former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said he would consider as “normal.”
Fed officials yesterday acknowledged the economic contraction was slowing, while maintaining the economy may “remain weak for a time.” Gross domestic product shrank at a 5.5 percent annual rate in the first quarter, less than economists estimated last month, revised figures from the Commerce Department showed yesterday in Washington.
OECD Report
The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development boosted its forecast for the economy of its 30 member nations for the first time in two years this week. A U.S. government report today may show consumer spending rose in May for the first time in three months.
Libor is derived from a survey of banks conducted by the BBA each day in London. Institutions are asked how much it would cost them to borrow from each other for 15 different periods, from overnight to one year, in currencies from dollars to euros and yen. The BBA then calculates averages, before publishing them before noon.
To contact the reporter on this story: Gavin Finch in London at gfinch@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: June 26, 2009 08:06 EDT
and they will get it with the "UNLIMITED DISCOVERY"
I love it~~~ Go Judge, give it to them where they like it...
This is not her first RODEO. She is flexing her muscles.
Honorable Judge Walrath, make it RAIN...
Oh yes... good ole Nite. They definitely need a good spanking.
I'm locked and loaded on both of them. Lehman and Wamu are looking really good at this time.
We are investigating JPM and Barclays...