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A BC Alt fuels company rockets up more than 200%....
Please go look at Ballard...Vancouver PUMP & DUMP.
A cautionary tale.
Wow ! Electricity there must be REALLY EXPENSIVE ! Because fuel cell power is about 3-4 times more expensive than power from the Grid.
Really??? Please provide a link or source for this fun fact.
Anyone ?
Ay Caramba !!!
It must be all them Mexican Buses !!!
Rags I agree with you that PLUG:
"PLUG in particular has applicable, economical, and sustainable technology that is already in use in many places around the world.. largely distribution centers and places of industry. "
I also agree that there is a future for this forklift parts manufacturer and that the share price ought to be around $2.00-$2.50/share. As a forklift parts manufacturer.
But I also believe that PLUG is poorly managed, and that this management team has the potential to destroy all shareholder value.
Can anyone please explain to the class, where the money to ramp up production to , "to provide all the fuel cells they use in their projects," will be coming from?
The future is bright, but we are woefully under-capitalized to realize this future potential...
Does anyone know where the $$$ is coming from?
If there is no dough... there is no future !
In use??? But viable ?? Economic?? Sustainable?
Just because you can make or buy a flying car, does not mean that there is a real flying car or fuel cell industry.
There are lots of one-off and lab / field studies around to prove the science, but there are lots of new BETAMAXES being invented, too.
Luckily... There are NATURAL GAS fired back up generators at most major facilities to power up the vital infrastructure.
These natural gas fired generators work just as well as fuel cells, cost less and are already in place and working in most states.
If electric fork lifts were needed as part of vital services, they could just as easily recharge with these natural gas fired generators.
So we are fortunate that we have diesel and natural gas back-up generation in place and paid for, and do not need fuel cells for this purpose.
Science Fiction !!!
This board is like reading "Popular Science" or "Popular Mechanics" !
Does everyone have a flying car in their garage, too?
Tesla, Ford, GM, Mercedes, VW, Volvo, et al,
ALL HAVE ELECTRICITY IN ALL 50 STATES ! And in almost every home !
I think the power infrastructure is already IN PLACE !
EVEN IN ROME !!!
Wait !!! Do you really believe that a Press Release is total proof?
Really?
"This totally proves what you have been saying on a number of posts."
Press Releases do not fall under the same guideline as SEC filings, and have much more latitude.
Press Releases PROVE NOTHING. WRONG AGAIN. !
I know that it won't be sold in at least 45 states which do not have Hydrogen dispensers. !
What are you talking about Gregg ???
What "facts" are you talking about?
I just read the SA article again...HYSTERICAL !!!
Who is going to guarantee that "THE DOWNSIDE IS NOW PROTECTED."?
What does that even mean?
NONSENSE... Don't be fooled.
NOPE ! Not a change of pace.
I have and will continue to write only facts and truths; so no change of pace. And I will express myself however I wish.
And if I offend anyone, so what, I only care about the facts.
Someone has wrongly stated my position in this stock or implied that I stated something I did not, and will vigorously correct and defend the truth.
If everyone sticks to the truth, you have nothing to worry about.
But the CCUS research dollars get CUT by MORE THAN HALF !!!
Pretty Hollow ! Pretty Shallow !! Totally Disingenuous !!!
Purely Window-Dressing.
I AM NOT FOOLED !
I believe that the Carbon Capture business is FCEL's LAST HOPE !!
The only story they have left to "SELL".
FCEL's power generation business losses money and is not economic in the market.
So all we have is Carbon Capture... as yet more R&D than real business.
Like the Power Generation business, it might work...,BUT....does it make money??? Is it ECONOMIC???
If "NO" FCEL is:...OUT OF BUSINESS !!
Whoa ! BAD NEWS !
The biggest Fuel Cell Power developer is exiting the business ???
WHY ? ALL OF THE GROWTH ??? FUTURE POTENTIAL ???
Or has this game peaked?
This might explain the flood of LAME PR lately.
Gregg, I am here to discuss this stock as well.
True, my point of view may be different than yours, but I have the right and feel the responsibility to point out misstatements by fellow posters and voice my views. I also think that it balances the discussion to point out the weaknesses and errors of management which will adversely affect the share price.
A message board which sings the praises of a company and management team who have lost and squandered millions in shareholder value, seems a little unbalanced to me; even though I have been a major beneficiary. To pump up a stock while also shorting it, seems disingenuous and unethical to me.
I believe in alternative energy and have a financial stake in several (being short BTW is a stake as well) , but just because I believe in the sector, doesn’t mean that I like all of the players, especially those which I feel are lousy investments, and for which I have ample evidence for thinking that way.
Currently I am long Ballard, and believe it is their success which is the reason for Plug’s and FCEL’s recent gains, NOT for any internal reasons.
And as always this dialogue need not be on the PLUG or any other message board. If you want to discuss my personal views, portfolio, or other matters not germane to PLUG, please take it off-line, you have my email.
The House too? We have a bicameral system. The house will burry it.
It will die in committee.
DIES IN COMMITTEE. !!!
Just protecting the truth for those who might listen to the others.
No, it hasn't really made it to options levels, I was kinda hoping it would, but not my style to flog something just so that I can short it.
That seems disingenuous to me.
Fuel Cell won't be one of the winners or survivors...Heading to Zero, but FCEL is catching some of Ballard's wind.
So far no one has been able to answer my one critical question :
"HOW IS FCEL GOING TO FUND RAMPING UP ?"? DEBT? DILUTION? BOTH?
OH NO !!!! IS ANOTHER MAJOR SHAREHOLDER DUMPING TODAY???
AND WHY DID LLOYD MILLER III DUMP HIS SHARES ???
Because this is such a great investment? Because the future is so promising?
"A lotto is based on getting something for nothing. "
First, I didn't begin the lotto trail.
Second , WRONG AGAIN... You gotta buy a ticket!
"A lotto is based on getting something for nothing. "
And I am over $5.00 with Ballard !!! The best stock in the sector.
THANK YOU BALLARD !
Were it not for you and your coat-tails we would be trending down.
What happens when the magic stops? Or when folks realize FCEL isn't Ballard?
THANK YOU BALLARD !
Were it not for you and your coat-tails we would be trending down.
What happens when the magic stops? Or when folks realize Plug isn't Ballard?
Ha Ha Ha..lottos love guys like you...
"I spent $20, but I WON $3.00 !!"
1,000 chances to win... and 999,000,000 chances to loose....!
THIS IS A LOTTO TICKET !!!
WITH THE SAME ODDS !
Really?? I have gone to the bank several times already with Ballard.
Do you have a wheelbarrow? I need to go again today to make another deposit.
No need for me to swing for the fences ..
BALLARD.... I WIN !!!
All in one day ???
I don't think so.
I like intelligent too. I don't believe Amazon will let PLUG touch Intelligent... can you guess why?
I don't think so banger.
PLUG doesn't know how to make money, and if you are in bed with Walmart AND Amazon you will be crushed.
And FCEL won't be acquired by Exxon ...
Exxon is smarter than that.
Nope, the fuel cell sector will only have a few survivors... Ballard might be one, but my bet is the real Fuel Cell winners don't even exist yet... and Plug and FCEL are not two of them.
Pack 10 asks:, "What does Honda have to do with the transportation world? "
Ohhh...
Cars
Trucks
Motorcycles
Jet planes
do riding lawnmowers count?
WAIT !!!...
"You mean PLUG isn't the same deal as BALLARD ?"
"Different management?? Different business model ???"
"Oh, Shoot !!! Get me out of PLUG and into Ballard !"
OOOPPPS !! WRONG AGAIN !!!
https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-fuel-cell
Honda Drops its NGV, but offers a Hydrogen ZEV.
If the world is going to ZEV's we don't need NGV's.