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Why would you state wait to buy more as you think PPS will continue to go down.............during a day like today.
The volume is up, there has been the lowest PPS in awhile, there have been numerous orders going through in the $2k - $10k range with quite a few significantly larger.
The only time I saw small orders executed was when the pushed the PPS down and it triggered Stop Loss orders.
Many MMs, institutional, big buyers, MSLP execs, MSLP company has to making these buys!!
So why are you suggesting a further dip....you think they are going to trigger more STOP LOSS orders or what?
Not quite understanding your OPINION?
This is called....testing the waters for STOP loss orders.
I mean the just sucked out another 5 million shares from these people in 5 minutes. This is getting ready for next run....
When I see deliberate testing like this..... I get pumped up!!
Silence...............??????????
Simply Put MSLP will or will NOT blow up soon.
People talk of institutional investors, big buyers etc....Yeah when that happens it will be great.
But if they are taking action on what they have stated in recent PR's...then it doesn't matter when the actual institutional investors show up.....I mean at this price you could convince and PUMPER/PROMO Penny stock alerter to buy this and hold it up for a couple of months to a year until the true investors show up.
Also what about this?
MP "may" buy back 100 million shares
This has got to go soon. The only thing that comes to mind as a positive........atleast at this moment is............
when the company stated they "may" buy 100million shares...........since they used the word "may" could they essentially buy more than 100million.
Obviously I would assume it goes both ways....the "may" NOT buy the 100million shares as well.
But to see the price dropping....it looks ugly....but I mean somebody had got to be buying....and it's been blocks of buying; yes at the bid too! Isn't that required for a share buy back.....legal to buy at the bid ONLY?
MSLP "may" buy 100 million shares
This has got to go soon. The only thing that comes to mind as a positive........atleast at this moment is............
when the company stated they "may" buy 100million shares...........since they used the word "may" could they essentially buy more than 100million.
Obviously I would assume it goes both ways....the "may" NOT buy the 100million shares as well.
But to see the price dropping....it looks ugly....but I mean somebody had got to be buying....and it's been blocks of buying; yes at the bid too! Isn't that required for a share buy back.....legal to buy at the bid ONLY?
20 volume in 1 hour! MP "may" buy 100 million
This has got to go soon. The only thing that comes to mind as a positive........atleast at this moment is............
when the company stated they "may" buy 100million shares...........since they used the word "may" could they essentially buy more than 100million.
Obviously I would assume it goes both ways....the "may" NOT buy the 100million shares as well.
But to see the price dropping....it looks ugly....but I mean somebody had got to be buying....and it's been blocks of buying; yes at the bid too! Isn't that required for a share buy back.....legal to buy at the bid ONLY?
NITE is a buying machine...is this MM retail and instituional.
He must have bought atleast 25% of todays volume which is up....
no it didn't.....I check this regularly within the site as well....ever since the big first run when the bid was as at .02 for a feww hours.
I first noticed the error within the regular site....not the L2.
I have never heard of so many contradictory answers ever. BS!
Somebody better get screenshots.....I don't know how....but on the phone with etrade and they said they kust checked with bloomberg and L2 is accurate...but I keep seeing trades less than the 4 million at .0174.
I will find and assasinate somebody if this market manipulation that cost me my $$$$
Mark this post
Bid at .0174 now at 4470418 anybody see this??
Bid at .0174 (1780428). Not showing on my etrade level 2.
Something Fishy here.....can't figure it out, but I am seeing 2 different bids and asks on my etrade.
The Level2 is not showing what my standard Etrade account is....anybody else see this??
Good Point Deaf!....however I do get paid by MSLP. Can't say how, but I do....it ahs nothing to do with this board (just wanted to clear that up)
And I invest every cent of profit I gain with them into their stock......so in the long run...it should be a win win for everybody!
Only got 1 post left for today...I will have to use it wisely....as I have wasted to many with Codie and cluttered up this board.
My Apologies.
Where is Keith G? POSITIVE!!!
Negative Mike....That is in regards to DMAA only....at this time! And I don't think that is that big of a deal as all the companies that do have DMAA in their product were well aware that they were going to be banned in advance
This isn't something that just fell from the sky
Great work....do you have the ability to convert to conference call? I'd love to hear the call as would many others here.
Thank you for the clarification...I will try and verify myself later today when I'm out and about.
Why state half trueths as if they are fact.
Codie could say I think they are claiming false information on prducts, websites, etc....and then people could do a little DD and prove hime wrong so that everyone is up to date on the facts.
In regards to shorting....of course some short....but you really think that is what will hold this stock down with all the forward momentum. I guess we'll see.
Codie I appreciate you bringing some awareness that I had NOT seen, but you don't need to yell facts that aren't FACT.
First you post they fraudelently mark their products NSF certified on their website....
well I went to the website it did NOT say anything to that matter, it said "*To check the status of a particular product please check with the certification organization."
Then your already posting about shorting.
Then you state its on the product itself....because now its obvious that it NOT on the website as you originally claimed.
Just trying to see your motivation.
I saw the LOT #'s, but I don't have every single product available of theirs in front of me to verify this.....so can you take a picture of every product that is mislabeled.
Are you serious...your just bouncing from one topic to another with half trueths.
What is your motivation here??
I do NOT see them claiming ALL products anywhere are already NSF certified and it states right below your step#6 "*To check the status of a particular product please check with the certification organization."
So where is the lie???
Actually the MSLP website states "*To check the status of a particular product please check with the certification organization."
I don't see anywhere that it states all products are currently certified.
Tell me where you see this and I will look....just can't seem to find what your saying.
Doesn't look good when VFIN wants to sell....IMO
I think those large orders on the bid may be fake....trying to push retail up....flippers??
And we pull back some more....what is the best news to expect....a slightly improved Q1....and what wait another 2 weeks as we continue the slow downtrend?
Any thoughts??
Hamham...how do you know this....you sound pretty certain.
Also I was hoping to get your take on the info I had been posting.
No offense.....but what's the reply BS mean or in relation too?
I think the relevany of Eurpac is huge.
and I think being aware of the Global side is even bigger!
So please clarify....it might save me from doing DD on something that isn't relevant
Super and Farmin...if you're still around....I haven't found much yet...
When your name is mentioned alongside Amerprise; I think there is validity....just don't know how grand.
found this link to Eurpac: they are legit
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/business/article/Merritt-7-re-signs-3-tenants-397288.php
and this about a how they purchased a piece of another company in 2008.
http://www.paulkorda.com/news/2008/12/handleman-company-reports-second.html
Now trying to figure out how big of a deal MSLP has with these guys:
My guess is way bigger than anybody thinks....otherwise what would be the need to generate so much CASH$ so quickly.
On a side theory note: I don't think MSLP execs can pull the same BS they had in the past; Eurpac would end their careers if not put them in jail..... this to me is looking more and more like the past few weeks have been pure MM manipulation (sorry can't help myself when I can't find an answer), because this deal should be huge!
I will try and dig deeper, but I'm running out of posts and I am going to watch all the UFC fights tonight including prelims.
MSLP LONG!!
I would appreciate your input as well.
my post start with 24532....it contains the starting point.
I personally think its worth looking into deeper, but I am just not the best at using online resources as some other people on this board to verify potential Int'l sales and legitimacy of Eurpac...
My post were:
Its alot of info....but curious how far if any DD has been done on the issues Farmin posted as well as my post / replies.
Farmin Post were:24457,24458, and 24460
Mine Were:24503,24507, 24510,24511, 24513, 24516
You should glance through all of them before digging as I had to make some corrections and someone corrected me once as well.
Super....any thoughts on my post/replies to Farmin?
I'm sorry, but I can't stop laughing about Euc....it's like he's in internet prison!
I imagine him like my the green led on my modem that blinks sometimes...."saying let me outta here....got so much to share!"
Whats he gonna do now?? seriously kinda worried about him now!
LOLOLOLOLOLO
Super....sorry I didn't include in those off the top of my head that have been here for awhile.
I just know that Euc attracts alot of attention and figured he would be able to ensure that some more info comes out regarding my post / replies to farmin.....
It seemed pretty relevant to me.
What you think?
Thanks Subi....I just started getting a little excited that somebody was thinking the same way I am.
Thought they were one in the same....My bad
Correction to Post 24503..
To see the site that sells Energel go to:
http://www.vitalsuplementos.com.br
then on the left click Repositores....then sub categories will pop up. click on Gel Em Saches.
Sorry for the confusion people
Euc I forgot this. If you perform the searches related to my prior posts you need to go to: yahoo.com.br and google.com.br those are the Brasil search engines.
Wasn't sure if you or others knew that.
Tell me your looking at this seriously!
Euc ....take some time to look at this post...don't just blow this off....make sure you get the other Longs here to look at the post I just replied to that new farmin guy.
I'd like to even get feedback from Hamham about this. I saw you kinda blew him off last night....but I think he may be onto something.
That Brasil thing and Int'l sale is what I was trying to pry out of you the other day when I thought you were from Brasil.
He seemed straight to the point...he wasn't bashing the Eurpac Deal....to be honest I was thinking similar to him....only because the stock didn't already bust above .05. I'm still lost in that regard.
Well i contributed some Int'l DD for brasil online and will get back when I have any info about retail/stores where you can walk in and buy there.
Dakota, Euc, Odessa, jwblue, super, Hamham, codie have pretty been here the LONGest I think....there are some others too, but this board can cluttered with BS including mine.
As for Int'l Sales DD:
My wife is from BRASIL (I noticed you spelled it with an S) Are you from Brasil as well? I thought there was alread one here "Euc" but he isn't.
I had my wife do a few searches in portuguese for suplementos, muscular suplementos, and suplementos massa muscular, and few others. This same site came up in the first page....usually top 3 positions on google and yahoo (www.lojadosuplemento.com.br)(can't verify that this site is #1, but it does seem popluar and highly ranked)(ihub board members: if you click on the link for assault it gives a very professional background of the product as well as awesome ad with Rasheed Evans towards the bottom...you can try and use google translator to get an idea what they are saying, but it has been done very well in portuguese so the translation is NOT direct conversion and may sound a little off after you translate....I had my wife verify how well the translation was). MP has a very strong presence. On the others I found it as saying, new, and or launching. And some others didn't carry it at all.
Also I thought we were waiting for the launch of energel; it looks like its already on sale on this site in brasil: http://www.vitalsuplementos.com.br/index_listaprodutos.asp?estagio=100
I am not sure and brick&mortar in brasil, but I trying to get my father in law to do some research when he is out and about...get back to you and this board if anything brick and mortar is found.
I, like you, think that the popularity of MMA and the MP sponsorships have a much greater potential in sales than any investor is currently imagining, especially in Brasil (MMA is huge in Brasil and MP sponsors the "spider anderson silva"....if you have any Int'l DD please share.
I am also trying to figure out what their margins are on Int'l sales as the price for product seemed extremely expensive in Brasil...but I don't know the whole import tax situation.....
For that matter if anyone on the board could try and do these same searches in some other countries would be very usefull as well.
In regards to Eurpac Services Inc: That is why I am so suprised at the moment. This to me was huge and I was buying all the way to the TOP of the last run...been trying to avg down ever since(sorry for bs...back to DD).
Eurpac seems to have multiple divisions...I called 3 of them...it's a legit business...just haven't been able to find any true/hard financials. Hopefully someone here can.
I was still skeptical based on their past...from the DD of those mentioned above....but when they announced they had instated a debt retirement program....I was thinkng KABOOOM! Its never gonna be lower than .10 again.
I've been trying to figure out how much money they would have to invest in product just to have the inventory to fulfill these new contracts. Since the BOD is not completely transparent it is almost impossible to figure out the amount of $ needed, but it's huge, and the sale will be even larger. My personal guess was $256Million by end of year.
I am completely baffled by the current PPS, but nothing with this stock seems suprising anymore; good or bad!
I'll keep you posted on any brickand mortor/retail shops I can find in Brasil.
MSLP LONG!!
Codie, Jwez...I don't really want to get the middle of this, but we all that everybody has their own agenda....whether paid or NOT.
I have said this before: Some shorts....are actually LONGS that just want it cheaper.
Some are Flippers that would prefer this stock stays in the .01 to .02 range....easy profits and more volitility.
As long as you bring facts to the table...theories are welcome as well as long as they have some basis too!
But just stop battleing each other like teenage girls.
If your communicate amongst each other atleast find some common ground and go from there.
IMO you both have alot to contribute, but I won't follow this crap!
I'm NOT super concerned witht the pattern....or the moment to moment.
What is interesting to me is the (what looks like to be Institutional Investors) Lined up .0175 and down....letting the company do some buying back.
They look like vultures...saying where is mine,when is it my turn.
Also some people are mentioning volume....these vultures are the volume, which is up overall significantly.
Look back in Feb....it was sub penny and only trading like 8.5mm a day.
These Big guys s are just taking their time accumilating.
Has selling STOPPED? Very interesting...........
Flyfish....thats what I thought...I mean they are sitting their like vulchers!
All those MMs appear to institutional from what I could find. SUNR,VNDM,HDSN,VFIN...all of them
And yes I think they are buying anything .0185 or under....And if and when it runs they will buy and chase!