they know illegal sales have gone on--assume more issues will arise--will allow you to get out before it gets worse--dont want to allow people to be exposed to greater risk in a known compliance situation------PEOPLE----they have done this FOREVER !!!!----I guess it only sucks if you are trapped.

just amused by how much faith some put in L2----when it is in their favor---when its not---its manipulation-----frankly I dont give it much credit,if you dont know by now that the pink MMs show you just what they want to,its too late for you----also,could care less why some firms react quicker than others to legitimate SEC restrictions.

for the most of you relatively new to rvgd------from someone with as much experience as age-------you should have been here to see the absolute commitment there was to the $ 80 million dollar contract rvgd had locked up----and the absolute ridicule doled out to those pointing out how absurd the claims were.some might benefit from stepping back and look at what rvgd actually represents---and how likely they are to produce such a radical and complex technology.

to think the reason rvgd is back to the 000s is -----------------
MM manipulation/firms abiding by SEC restrictions/naked shorting/yadayadayada-----is nonsense---------you have to realize the only reason this spiked was due to a very well organized effort to convince there was a ceramic magnet hybrid engine gonna give you 100mpg------the light came on to what nonsense that is.this is a no rev/maxed AS/soon to RS pink /trying to sell $180k v8 fibrekits--nothing more nothing less.

?? bid dropped to .0002 thats good ?------------------------------
morris ready to go or hes out ??

simple enough question--------------------------------------------
still consider it the "supercar" as a $ 180k standard v8 ?

of course you will see the AS get bumped.then the RS.

the technology,and the patents exist for ideas that will never represent real-life production options.

he can raise the hood,tip his hat,drop his drawers---------------
the 100mpg ceramic magnet hybrid is a farce.-----and yes it has all been done as a hype to stir up interest------------and yes THERE WILL BE A R/S.

OPEN CONTEST !!!!!------------------------------------------------
Do you really think anyone ever sees a 100mpg ceramic magnet hybrid magic motor up and running in ANY vehicle ?!?!?!?!?---------------post your response !!!!!!!!!!!!

too big to keep secret-----the only thing that generated interest was the 100 mpg ceramic magnet hybrid----------you dont think there would be a whisper that they had one installed and doing wheelies in a parking lot somewhere ?!?!?!?!------No-one STILL thinks they sell any $180k standard v8 fibrekits do they ????

but I'll bite--------say you get someone to fund the 25 million---------what would that do to the current SHs ??????????????

140 MILLION REVENUE 750 CARS IN 2010 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Without a doubt the funniest claims Ive seen on ANY board----ABSOLUTE GUARANTEE-------------Will not see 140mill rev/750-----will not see 14 mill/75-------Will not see 1.4 mill/7 ---------will not see 1 ceramic magnet hybrid 100mpg super engine installed (operational) -----EOS.tia.good night Irene.

one of the greatest dis-services being done is using the misnomer----"supercar"-----the original designation was for a 100mpg magnet/hybrid engine-----I dont think ANYONE thinks there will ever be an operational unit as an option ( much less produced ).

the only ( ONLY) thing that was generating interest here would be the 100mpg magnet/hybrid engine----my opinion---will never be one installed in a verde.

maui----dony know if you are serious,or posting in jest-----------but supporting the extremes of nonsense dont help your cause.

you have to smile when you see the "guesstametarget" of a pps for rvgd @ $ 1.00-------giving a market cap of 2 billion dollars !!--------company has zero rev and the likelyhood of seeing the magic motor are ------well,I dont think it happens ----so the chances of any car sales are suspect.always great to be optimistic--but--you you do need to hear the whispers of reality.

best to trade and flip rvgd as the pink it is--------------------
the only ones distorting the reality of rvgd are those touting 750 vehicles produced with a "ceramic magnet hybrid engine"------------now there is your nonsense-----------those are the ones you should put on ignore.

I think someone said--long ago--that eeso would be just the latest in a long line of "green cleaning solvent companies" to come and go.

several issues clouding the picture (none really a good sign for rvgd) the real issue---and frankly,the only one that generated any interest here-----the hyped "magic motor / super car"----like it or not the commercial interest for a $ 180k standard v8 fibrekit is limited at best----------THE ONLY THING THAT DREW INTEREST ------was the 100mpg ceramic magnet hybrid engine------not whether the technology works on paper--whether it can be a viable production option----most think not,and the projections of first year of 750 units are nonsense.

easy way to find out------rvgd will be 12/12---as reality of the "magic motor " hits-------new definition of ugly.

is ANYONE aware of peters track record ?????

always thought it amusing w/peters track record-----some still want to accept he had no idea what was going on behind the scenes.

sorry,it is nonsense to think this trading is "manipulation" this trading is a reaction to the bad news that came out.some are way to eager to assign responsibility anywhere but where it belongs.also amusing how many direct so much anger and mis-trust at the MMs----and yet read the L2 as gospel !!!------folks they are telling you exactly what they want to----and most buy it !

of course there is a reason for trading restrictions--------------
there have been illegal shares sold.plain and simple.time will tell as to responsibility.I really dont understand the anger against the firms making the restrictions---they all have policies regarding how they respond and when---and of course they are protecting their own assets(believe it or not--investors as well).restictions are implimented on nasdaq and big board as well------being aware of the rules is part of the game.

the trading restrictions are really just a legal formality------the real impact will be the day the reality of the ceramic magnet hybrid becomes more clear.

"hero"? hardly---For those new here------------------------------
posted over 1 1/2 years ago what carnes' involvment here and the green guys and boat guys meant---has ALWAYS been the kiss of death.and the standard answer of "hes gone now" means NOTHING---------the path was chosen.

carnes has been around a LONG time and has gotten very good at what he does----that is why he is never at a loss for business.having been around this long-----yes,he knows the MMs,the TAs,the brokers---has contacts everywhere.the pink sheet arena is not as big as some think.once he makes it clear he is an authorized party----he will get anything done he needs to.

frankly,I think my posts are the most-even keeled on this board---I doubt that my opinions ( thats all anyone posts) will be proven wrong----if you are able to step away from any emotion,and be realistic----thoughts that a "ceramic magnet hybrid engine" from rvgd ----the pink w/a terrible track record and history----will quickly be shown as nonsense.

well,this one is following the script-----------------------------
thurston,I want my placard.-------where is it ?

EDITED what "the pair says" may prove to mean very little.---------------
I think I may have read a thing or two in magazine articles that didnt exactly pan out.Bernie M had some great qoutes in magazine articles.

I think it has been the plan all along to sell what vehicles they could with a standard v8-0---I think the promotion of the "magic motor" was just that----promotion to stir up interest,tough to generate interest in a $ 180k fibrekit v8.

and what would be a realistic time frame to go from patent approval to production of a viable option ?

whether intentional or not--some are creating confusion.E85/100mpg/roush/hybrid/500hp.In the beginning--the excitement was over a 100mpg hybrid engined verde.it seems that the story changes daily.what might be a benefit would be to hear from rvgd what their engine plans for the verde actually were.There will be a world of difference in interest in a standard v8 with standard mpg@ $ 180k and a vehicle with an advanced ceramic magnet hybrid offering 100mpg.

yes,wikipedia,the benchmark for research.so lets take a poll------when does everyone think rvgd will install a ceramic magnet hybrid (operational) as an option ???? my guess---it will never happen---the verde will appear at 3 shows--all w/some sort of a "standard engine"---then the PR will state "due to certain production constraints,rvgd will no longer proceed with the magnethybrid--however we are proud to introduce the new mega v8 (500 hp-19 mpg)as an option"------@ $ 180k,may sell 1-2.

already posted my response.

I cant think a "link to magnet/hybrid" technology is needed---I dont really think ANYONE is doubting it exists----but just as it would be possible to make a nuclear reactor small enough or external combustion engine powerful enough to place in an auto-----------does not mean it is a viable option---------just an opinion--------I doubt the ceramic magnet hybrid EVER comes to fruition as an option for the verde.

and there lies the rub--------------------------------------------
I dont doubt a verde rolls down the road in 2010.I dont doubt the technology exists for a ceramic/magnet hybrid engine.I dont doubt Roush is a real company that may sell some engines-------NOW-------if there is ANY correlation between them----time will tell.Magnetic hybrid technology has been around for decades--the big 3 (and all others) have poured millions into research(in good times and bad)--dismissed the technology----IMHO-----It will not be peter that makes a go of it-----Roush may put a mega motor into the verde (aint gonna get 100mpg)----so will rvgd sell the proposed 750 v8 fibrekits @ $ 180k ?------imo---I doubt they sell more than 1-2 -------but hey,just an opinion like everybody else.

I dont know if anyone doubts there will be a verde on the road in 1010-----my guess will be the standard (may be tricked) v8------that will be the extent---for all of 2010---I dont think there will be on option for the ceramic magnet hybrid which seems to be responsible for the 100mpg claims.

"available with two powertrain options"--------------------------
well,no,that really tells you nothing.