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Very nice post sunnyjax. I agree with all but #3. With a $5/ton profit typical, I'm thinking that the .90 is profit - but, I could be wrong. Thanks for taking the time to lay it out like that. Leslie must be one heck of a salesgirl LOL. Gut feeling keeps me holding too - gltua
Are we still waiting on Airys and HOG's report or did I miss it?
peorge-but notes taken during a conversation can be used in court - in Florida. So I'd advise them to keep their notes. Not that they'll need them, but just in case
Totally agree space - iggied
First real contact with Steve. Not sure how a recorded session would have been reacted to. Maybe he's shy but main thing is establishing trust with him and repoire -after all there were death threats from what I heard, so yeah, you can say little shy. Recorded can come along later or at the SH meeting. You guys did good and thanks again.
Thanks FFB - makes sense. Things will pick up as spring rolls around
.025x.027-Look out!!She's gonna blow!! lol
.025x.026
oreo?! I've got ABLE @.024 and UBSS @.0255. I'm using quotestream
MrBull, it'll probably be held at the casino/hotel so we can boost the local economy lol
Each individual take on the CC will be great-more like a 3 dimensional aspect of the converse. Thanks again HOG.
I know who I'm thinking of for the elected BOD
Guess UBSS took umbrage with my LOL. He's back up to .0255 and leading the pack
We break .027 and blue skies. Hilarious that UBSS is backed off to a dime
Appears all buys for the last hour. Got filled
They aren't filling me @ .024?!
The mm's ARE WATCHING THIS BOARD IMO
At least SBSH is
That's true whistles, I wasn't thinking of organized pumpers - I'm sure hedge funds work both sides of that equation.
same here oreo. they're weren't posting my offer at .023. raised it to .0235 to get a fill
I agree oreo, they're stalling. wonder if they have a poster on this board as a spy and they're waiting for the CC results. it's weird the way it's trading or not trading
Sand-I think panic played a BIG role. It only took 2 small sells in the .01 range to start an avalanche
budge-link please? "that's why the vast majority of people snagged by the sec are pumpers pumping for money"
it's called time and a half
So I guess no ones got their shares yet? It's coming up on a year!?
pumpers would have to be insiders, and therefore a limited number of players in on it, while bashers could have any number of hedge funds behind them - and there are plenty. Many more options available to bashers to ply their trade. That;s why bashers always outnumber pumpers 5 to 1 AT LEAST, imo
No trades in 20 minutes? Are they waiting on Airys, HOGS, FFB's call results? lol
Slojon-LOL. some kind of weird inverse ratio thing
Good luck guys, hope they hint at future developments and pr the facts of it. any questions answered is all good imo. ungagging the TA would be a BIG first step to transparency. Any of you guys have steno experience? I'd hate to miss anything.
In 2005, the United States produced an estimated 97.4 million metric tons of cement. China's annual cement output stands at 490 million tons, or more than one-third of the world's total.
http://www.people.com.cn/english/199905/24/chnmedia.html
Also a 6mm ton shortage is defined as "severe"
The Middle Eastern construction sector is suffering from a severe shortage of cement, it has emerged.
According to a report by the Dubai Chamber of Commerce and Industry (DCCI), the region is facing a deficit of around 6m tonnes; in 2005, cement production totalled 122m tonnes, reports Trade Arabia.
As a result of the shortage, cement prices have increased by an estimated 10%, while steel prices have increased by nearly 50% because of high demand, according to the DCCI.
'Steel production in the region increased by 12% in 2005, from 14.2m metric tonnes in 2004, while on the other hand consumption increased by 37% in 2005 from 25.3m tonnes in 2004,' said the report.
Established in 1965, the DCCI views itself as the 'backbone of commercial and economic activities' within the United Arab Emirates.
The DCCI is estimated to have around 79 000 members.
© 2006, Adfero Ltd
Cause all eyes are upon them. Nothing like being watched to keep you honest lol
uw86: check that -3 aliases. Nicullianna, John somthing and Angela or somthing similar to begin with. Why so many aliases? What is her agenda in so many aliases. Isn't that an IHUB TOS?
Airys, an honest post and a breath of fresh air - My wholehearted thanks for all you and HOG have done.
Profit margins on cement per ton is about $5 USD/ton. We're getting .90 a ton profit so I'd venture to say thats after all associated costs. JMO
Irish: i know, it's nuts. Probably the same ones threatening PV's dad, Leslie and Dave, the yard man. I hope they do get caught
bags: death threats by PM I heard. I think it's a shame. I always looked forward to his posts even if some were a little off the wall he contributed greatly to the DD here. I mean, he knows the Suljas personally.
Also a 6mm ton shortage is defined as "severe"
The Middle Eastern construction sector is suffering from a severe shortage of cement, it has emerged.
According to a report by the Dubai Chamber of Commerce and Industry (DCCI), the region is facing a deficit of around 6m tonnes; in 2005, cement production totalled 122m tonnes, reports Trade Arabia.
As a result of the shortage, cement prices have increased by an estimated 10%, while steel prices have increased by nearly 50% because of high demand, according to the DCCI.
'Steel production in the region increased by 12% in 2005, from 14.2m metric tonnes in 2004, while on the other hand consumption increased by 37% in 2005 from 25.3m tonnes in 2004,' said the report.
Established in 1965, the DCCI views itself as the 'backbone of commercial and economic activities' within the United Arab Emirates.
The DCCI is estimated to have around 79 000 members.
© 2006, Adfero Ltd
Indepth: wrong about 100mm being 1/3rd of the worlds total. In 2005, the United States produced an estimated 97.4 million metric tons of cement. China's annual cement output stands at 490 million tons, or more than one-third of the world's total.
http://www.people.com.cn/english/199905/24/chnmedia.html
OT>>Whats a good cheap L2 service for pinks? TIA
23x24? my TDA is off. I'm getting 225x235
Sand-I guess the difference for me is that the basher is out to destroy the company and it makes no difference if it's a good company or a bad company to them. They do that with innuendo, outright distortions of the truth, fax spams, SEC complaints, calling the company and threatening - spreading FUD. If they can destroy the company then their hedgefund buddies never have to cover and never pay taxes on their gains. The pumper is not out to destroy a company, they let them do it themselves if that's what to be. But as far as an honest struggling company that makes some mistakes and is trying to make a go of it, the basher is the worst criminal of the 2. If it's a scam from the gitgo then the pumper, that is aware of that fact, is the criminal and an insider. If the bashers knew beyond a doubt it was a scam they'd be insiders and shorting the hell out of it knowing that scam is the outcome and there'd be really no need for them to endlessly post and try to force their opinions since the truth will come out and the company destoyed of it's own accord. Here in Suljaland we know we don't want the company to be destroyed except by their own greed and if that's the case (which I don't think it is) we would want the criminals doing the perp walk to the pen. It all comes down to if the company is a scam and who knows it and can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt - something no one here can do. I'm not here to believe anybody that wants to destroy my investment (bashers). If the company destroys my investment then we know who to look for and where. Pumpers won't be destroying, the company itself will. Just some thoughts to ponder. Bashers are criminal in intent as destruction is their goal. JMVHO