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itrade, why would investors click on banner ads? that would be stupid, that would cost us money, if they want to drive traffic rating up they only have to go to the site. but yet they would also need to have an alexa tool bar downloaded to their computer.
you only assume this is happening, and assume the traffic increase is because of this. you have no proof. but then again if you said something positive you would go against everything else you have posted.
and how can you rip them for consultant fees, you have no idea what advice they where given. it could very well be advice for the future, things you dont see yet. maybe they encouraged JF to do internet ads, or told them he needed more distribution centers and where to best put them. or or or, or maybe they gave him ideas we havent seen yet, you dont think that way, you assume they did nothing
my business has been around since 1959, we have over 35 employees and over 7 million a year in revs, we bring in consultants every year, they are VERY expensive, sometimes they help sometime they dont, but its always best to get some outside opinions and ideas, you cant grow if the same people runs the place, they only have one way of thinking.
if I wanted to drive site traffic, I would first need an alexa tool bar, dont have one, then all I would need to do is go to the web sites, Im not stupid enough to search around and click on banner ads, that would just cost us more money.
but you assume what you assume, one day you will have fact to go off of. all just my opinion
sentinel, I have pointed out many times on here, the past failures of the company. but I choose not to focus on the past, becuase we know its the present and the present is much better than the past, we have almost 3 times the subs we had last year, we have more marketing that hasnt shown its quarterly results yet because most of it just started, heck we are on yahoo now. we probably have more subs than ever, Im sure they are climbimg daily. our revs are also climbing, our churn rate has dropped significantly, our inventory and distribution centers are at an all time high, marketing at an all time high, what more do you want.
yes they failed in the past, yes its to bad they had to sell a bunch of shares to raise money(money they had to have), yes its too bad we dont have more subs, BUT I can sit here and focus on that and focus on the past, or I can realize things have gotten much better and should continue to do so on a daily basis.
look at the 3 q from last year and the 3 q from this year, and the difference in whats going on between then and now with marketing and sub count.
also many people that complain, do complain about money lost.
it seems MOST ALL errors and miscalculations are for the most part in the past, we can "cry" about them all day, doesnt change them, or we can choose to focus on what looks like a brighter future.
its all depends if your a glass half empty/half full type. mine is half full, I can admit to past problems, but think its a waste of time to focus on them. a person can drive themselves nuts doing such a thing.
and again, if its such a failure, why not sell and move on, there must be 1000 other otc plays, I guess if you stay it must be better than what you write.
and Id like to ad most posters opinion seems to have something to do with if they are up or down in the stock, Im down over 50%, more like 60/65% but I remain upbeat because I can see the light, and I know that 50,000 subs this quarter still doesnt change the past. but they cant change the past, they can only improve the future. so Im way down as well, but it does no good for me to complain.
all just my opinion
tons of sells going through, hope I get filled been waiting at .0003 over a week. today looks like a good day for it. cant believe the lack of support at .0004, oh well, it cant get much worse, it can get a heck of a lot better. all just my opinion
well its hard to block when you dont know its coming. it was his first. at any rate its nice to see where he sits on this subject. just another "true long" that hung on to long and wants to blame someone else
Im in another otc that I bought at .16 its now .007, I dont blame anyone, I dont post on that thread, I made a mistake. the company didnt come through and I bought what they where selling. it happens, I dont expect anyone else to care about my problems, so I dont cry about it.
and if you dont know its coming its not blocked, so he accomplished his goal of tearing me and the company apart
all just my opinion
Sentinel/wick just so we are perfectly clear, a poster can rip me and the company all they want, as long as its in a pm? just making sure, cause if thats the case I will know how to go about talking to people then. thanks
and I will be asking him for his permission to post it again
sentinel he invaded my privacy, while telling my what a pos I was. but let me guess nothing will happen with that? so its ok to rip me up behind everyone back but I cant show what he does? wow, nice laws on here. I will ask for his consent, people should know how the "true longs" feel, they should see who they are talking to, they should see someone trying to take the company down.
I'm far from a pumper, just because I choose to focus on positive instead of the negative I guess we need to hand out labels, you focus on the negative but I dont think I called you a basher.
why DELETE that post? why cant I post what other have to say? I assume wick deleted it. why??? you didnt want other to see what he thinks of the stock?
tony your tone has changed, I guess that means you bought today. fact is I have never seen a stock with so many people complain, point out all the negatives, rip the company, and yet continue to hold, funny huh?
this must be the only otc out there. it also must be the only one that screwed up, made false promisies, sold shares, and didnt perform up to expectations. oh wait I just described 90% of otc/pinks. its a high risk gamble, we all know that, dont cry when you lose.
Sentinel, you can claim anything you want, maybe you did maybe you didnt, if you did and have so much riding on this, why would you cut them down left and right.
you would make a great car salesman, taking the potential buyer for a test drive and telling them everything wrong with the car, basically saying stay away. I mean it almost seems like you are trying to warn people to stay away, and that in some way will get back at the compnay for your mistake.
the fact is you made an investment in a high risk gamble. that is the bottom line. dont cry outside the casino that they took all your money. no one cares. it happens everyday, you win some you lose some, but life goes on. I dont care how much you have lost, you have the chance to make it up somewhere else or just sit here and stew about it.
all just my opinion
sentinel tell all the facts. I thought they didnt launch until september 04, so thats 2 years 2 months. I love how you round 11,800 down to 11k. so you round down and extend how long they have been open, negtive lately?
Fact is they werent ready for business when they opened. they promoted before they could handle it. churn rate was outragious. they screwed themselves and basically had to start over. did so about a year ago. they added new distribution centers and are now doing more marketing. in the correct order this time. so yes they have been open longer than the last year, but they had to take a second try at it.
can you asnwer why you are still here if its such a failure? why did you hold so long watching all your money go down the drain? why didnt you cast your vote on the companies actions by selling? I mean you still dont find the current business operation to your liking. yet you hang on and complain. Just what does it take to fold a losing hand? are you here to warn us? or what exactly? I just dont get it, either you believe or you dont and if you dont play one of the many other 1000's of otc stocks. Time to get over it
dayholder, most of your points are to the home market. well they are not in trouble because of the economy as much as people making bad decsions about 2 years ago. MANY people jumped on the low interest rates. but did so by getting into an adjustable rate mortgage. now that rate shot up and they cant afford the much larger payment. so now many of them have to sell becuase they cant afford the house, in turn flooding the market and not having much of an edge against new buyers. problem is interest rates went up, so buying power went down yet these people dont want to bring the price of their house down to sell it. so they are holding out for a price they wont get and houses are sitting. flooded market, high prices, and less buyers. its more of the buying crazy from a couple years ago than it is poor economy. just a matter of too many people living above their means and got caught in a bad loan. seems to be a common theme among most americans these days.
all just my opinion
dayholder, if your family rents games and watches movies no reason to dump the service. I went to blockbuster, rented 3 movies, it was 11.50, a normal family is doing this 2 or 3 times a month, instead of 3 movies they may be getting 1 game and two movies. now I do believe games are more expensive to rent at BB than movies. its been awhile since I rented a game but I believe they where 5 bucks for a week or 10 days or something. so that family can spend 35 bucks a month to rent 3 movies on 3 different occasions or they can pay 16.99 to have the 3 out plan and rotate the 3 out 3 times a month or every ten days. now most families want to save money and use this as a form of family entertainment so what one do you think they would rather have? I dont see people dumping the service if gzfx gives them good service.
also my blockbuster is 10 minutes away, not far but 15 miles round trip 3 times a month is 45 miles. or another 2+ gallons of gas, or another $5 to rent those movies, not to mention an hour of my time getting them
the churn rate has went down for the past year, not just the last quarter.
all just my opinion
Sentinel who is to blame if you held that long? you have to look in the mirror if your talking about yourself. the company is not the only place to point a finger.
thing is if your 75% negative on the company why hold. there are 1000 other otc plays. sometimes you have to move on, take a loss and try another, no matter how bad you want to get back at the stock you lost in.
believe me I have been there as well in other plays. I was so mad at the false promises they pr'd over and over again. I lost more in that than any. I posted very negative. then I finally woke up, I sold. I lost a lot but I felt very good about not having the daily grind with the stock. I invested in another and did very well, and am still doing very well.
bottom line is that this is the otc, its high risk gambling. you have to realize the company wont be perfect, and many things they say wont come true, thats how these work. they are made mostly for trading, not for holding. personally I will hold this one because I can see the light.
if I lose all I have in here I can only blame myself for doing so. I could point my finger at the company but it wont help, they didnt pull the triggers on my trades I did. Talk negative about the company if you wish, but take a good look at yourself at the same time. we all make our own decision, JF never twisted my arm.
all just my opinion
I first bought at .0131 but my average is .0061, you need to be smart enough to average down. a 100% gain to break even is nothing in a stock like this, one real pr could do it. fact is I havent bought since .0039, so I could probably get my overage much lower. I believe in what they are doing. I see them trying hard to succeed, but I believe they have only been "trying" for about 9 months. they werent ready for many subs last year, they are now. and they are being much more agressive getting them. I dont know why so many expected any real gains this last quarter, the real gains will be seen the next quarter, but even more the 1st q of 2007. if you can be patient and wait until then, I think it will pay off. you may want to average down and even trade some on the swings. no one said you need to buy at .012 and never trade or never buy more.
they are going in the right direction. you either believe or you dont. you can judge all what they did in the past, but its in the past. things have never been as good as they are now sub wise. and its getting better.
they screwed up in the past going after subs when they couldnt handle them, hence the 45% churn rate. thats is why we dont have more subs than we do, we basically had to start over trying to get them about a year ago. so the first year and a half was wasted.
I believe things are looking up, its just going to take time to see if Im right. all just my opinion
sentinel it seems like you spend most of your time on here shooting down positive opinion. thats fine, I guess your trying to get the longs who are down even more gloom. everyone has an agenda, its seems clear what yours is. if your truly invested and truly want this to go up, I just dont get it, oh well.
to me if would be like owning a restruant and telling the people walking in the door that the food sucks. shooting yourself in the foot and chasing away your old and new customers, while taking money out of your own pocket. good luck with that, all just my opinion
big .0003 orders going through, hope I get filled been waiting over a week. good luck all
these responses are a fine example, you didnt need to say a word, the poster said the stock is undervalued, you decided you needed to challege that, and then shoot him down again with your 3x nothing is nothing post. I mean do you really think this helps anything to shoot down positive posters?
yeah and you and wick have also erased posts you dont agree with and that is wrong. I think you "guys" ruin the outlook to most new investors that come here and get the long term investors down with the non stop negative outlook. I mean if your a true long and want this to go up, why not say nothing at all, instead of always cutting down someones positive outlook. I mean someone says something positive and you are right behind them to dispute it. maybe you dont see it because you write it, but its getting old.
all just my opinion
sentinel you have 8 negative things to say for every positive thing, seems a board mod should be more than 20% positive about the company. talk about getting ivestors down. you shoot down most everything that has a positive light shed on it. I thought a board mod was suppose to say more positive things, encouraging investors, not telling them the company is crap and thats about what you have been doing. I think its time you take your name off the assitant mod.
all just my opinion
well the big climb on low volume was scary, I didnt expect it to hold. it could still go up and hold but not on that volume. all just my opinion
maybe the climb has nothing to do with news, maybe we are past the people who shouldnt have dumped on the q report, it was .0032 .0033 when the q came out, its just going back where it should be. congrats if you got some at .0026/.0027
only thing that worries me is the big climb on low volume
all just my opinion
william I agree they are probably about 15,000. they say they can handle 150k, that might be a bit much, they may just have to increase the number of movies they have for the more popular ones. if they screw it up this time around, they may be doomed. all just my opinion
william, what do you mean you dont believe the current sub count? 2 high, 2 low? why wouldnt you believe it?
you also have to remember when you go to the local movie store they are always out of many titles. and they have multiple "distribution centers" in each city. so you have to expect this from an online company. I mean I think people get the idea that they have an unlimited selection and unlimited quantity on hand. and thats not really the case with any of the companies. all companies in this industry have "problems"
but if they are doing a push to get subs, they better not screw up being able to handle the load
all just my opinion
obviously needs a boost to sell? some of the best selling products I have ever seen have specails.
some people will say anything to try and make it look bad.
if all investors that watch movies or play games dont become a sub your nuts, not only would you save money but help your invest ment. movies at blockbuster are up over 3.50 each.
when is chicago distribution center to open? I live close so I would probably get my movies fast.
well its actually only been 6 months since roll out started, in may.
chart looks like a downtrend for the last year, why? dilution alone? revs keep going up, seems like plenty of good news
so is the price dropping because of dilution? are they selling a lot of shares? is the bottom near? should be a good q report rev wise I would think
Brilliant post Jason, but I dont believe comcast was even on the list of providers they where in talks with. spread some more rumors please
still didnt answer the direct questions, imagine that. bash away although you dont hold, wasting most of your saturday here, for what purpose, life that boring for you?
andy I believe last year at this time we had about 3500 subs accourding to the quarter report. we had a churn rate of 49%, churn rate is how many of the total drops to how many of the total added. so from that figure we where losing 1715 people a month and adding the same amount.
if you run a business like mcdonalds, and you have 100 employees and 5 quit, now you need 5 more to get back to a full staff of 100, you have a 5% churn rate
so unless you dont believe the q report from last year we had a 3500 average per month at the end of the first nine months.
Z-Axis, Ive been here since middle of last year, I bought in originally over .01. they are currently doing more marketing than ever, with the bus, CC, and web ads, billboards and some tv BUT these basically all just started. they really just started "trying"
they had a superbowl ad I believe in 2005, that was well before they where ready for the business such an ad could bring in. that was a big screw up, no doubt. so now they seem to have put there ducks in a row with the opening of more distribution centers and buying much more inventory. once they had those, now they are heavily marketing. most of these marketing efforts wont show on this last q report because of when it started. the bus and ads didnt start until september. but we had a huge climb in september in subs, we had to, that would be the only way we could average 9,300 subs but have a total of 11,800, we would have had to have a huge increase in september, so that is very positive.
another positive is churn rate. it was 45% at this time last year, its down to 12%, that alone says the service is getting much better.
as far as how they are funding the company, what options do they have until real revs come in the door. getting a cornell loan wouldnt help, thats also the kiss of death. we just have to trust they are spending for success
I do believe the next quarter report will show the best increase we have seen yet. my reasons where listed above. maybe it wont be the best percentage wise but number increase wise, because the more subs you have the harder to have big % increase. it seems the company is trying, and trying the hardest they ever have. results will come I believe, we will see soon enough. I didnt expect much out of this last quarter, I predicted we would have 10,000 subs so 18% over that was a pleasant suprise. is it where I want it, no.
also alexa ranking have been climbing for the last 5 weeks, thats a good sign, cant all be investors.
all just my opinion
every otc stock has issues one way or another, many dont even try to make money. atleast gzfx is trying. yet you didnt answer why you waste your time here, I wouldnt expect that though, most bashers dont answer direct questions. if you know otc stocks with no problems by all means move on from this one and put your valuable time in that one.
Z-Axis do you really wonder, I mean you have no idea. what they dont have employees? Havent purchased distribution centers, havent spend a bunch on marketing, or travel expenses for business deals they put together, or the bus, or all the displays and jewel cases for the CC stores, or or or, come on man, bash if you want, but think of something good to say. should we be stupid enough to believe the only operating expenses of a business are in the inventory? could you insult us anymore than that? it seems your trying to make a point to people that dont have a clue.
all just my opinion
I see a 63% sub growth for the 4th quarter they will have 19,300 subs in the 4 report, you heard it here first :) of coarse all the bashers will still say thats pathetic, any number to them will be pathetic, then they will cut down all the marketing ideas and give thier professional opinion on how a company should market. its funny to watch and read. if subs are high enough they cant complain they will go after cash on hand, or money spent, or shares out or or or or, they will pick at something they have to. even though its the otc and I havent seen a perfect stock in the otc yet, the next one will be the first one.
this is like buying a scratch off ticket, most you win nothing on, some you get your money back, and some you hit big. but I never seen anyone cry to the cashier how the tickets they bought didnt hit, and sit there for weeks about how they are losing money doing this gambling. maybe because the cashier would tell them to get a life and get lost.
all just my opinion
itrade4 can you honestly answer why you post here, I mean from the sounds of your posts you hate pretty much everything about the company, Im just curious why you would waste your valuable time here, you have nothing better to do?
and to think they let him be the board mod. funny
xanadu are you kidding me with this logic, and other actually see it the way you do. come on I know your trying to make the company look bad but this is going a bit over board.
so lets see your taking the money spend for the lifetime of the company and dividing it by the current number of subs. So ALL the money EVER spent divided by CURRENT subs. SO what about ALL the subs between today and 2004 that dropped off, you know the thousands and thousands that arent accounted for on your figure but yet brought in revs. Last year at this time they where dropping and adding about 1500 a month.
do you think verizon wireless takes all the money they ever spent and divide it by current subs to figure out what it cost them to get those subs, or do you think they actually take into account the millions of other subs they had over the years that went away
please I know you want to cast a dark shadow, and I see your buddies are right behind you on this post but its so far from the truth its not even funny. aslo the money spent this last nine months is money that will be getting us subs for the next year or longer, however long we are in CC and how ever many more subs we get from the current advertising.
keep up the good work, but think before you speak, a post like this makes you look like a fool. we dont want that now do we.
blame someone else. you could have went to 1000 other companies