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Salt?? In what context?????
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Well, do they?
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Well, gosh, gee, golly.
You know how everything SHOULD be done, eh?
That's why the stock board you are running is such an incredible success, and has tens of thousands of posts, putting IH to shame.
I'm just amazed that you waste your time here on such a horribly run board operated by incompetent people who don't understand and realize that if they only listened to everything you said and did everything the way you recommend everything in their world would be perfect.
Gosh, Matt and Bob, i hadn't realized what incredible dummies you were.
You need to go over to JM's board right now and see how this all SHOULD be done. Then you can come back here, sit at his feet, and absorb the incredible wisdom he is willing to impart to you totally free if you will only listen and obey.
Get with the program, guys!
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
And I challenged you to find out for me whether ants have wet dreams.
You claimed you knew all there was to know about ant psychology.
So, answer my question. And tell me how you know it.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
You either believe these people
Bingo.
Believe. You believe the people.
You don't know.
There it is. Out of your own mouth.
The only difference between you and religious believers is WHO you choose to believe in. Not whether you choose to believe.
You just did an excellent job of proving the main point.
Now we can get on from there and see whether some beliefs are more to be relied on than others. That's where things get REALLY interesting. What can/should we believe in, and why?
You sound JUST LIKE a Jehovah Witness the "towering" ignoramouses of out times.
That gave me a real belly laugh. It is so far from the truth it's funny.
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I know everything there is to know about ant psychology...if you have any questions I will find the
correct answers in the research and experiments of the known experts in the field.
That's a logically inconsistent statement.
if you know everything there is to know, you don't need to find the answers -- you know them.
If you need to find the answers, you don't know them.
Okay, here's my question. Please find the answer for me.
Do ants have wet dreams?
Please make good on your promise.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
.I KNOW it and I
exist
How do you know it?
A bald assertion like that is as meaningless as a bald assertion that "I KNOW God exists."
Neither one is worth anything in discussion.
HOW do you know you exist? How do you know you aren't the figment of some child's dream? How do you know you aren't simply a brain in a bowl of soup somewhere in a place that may not even exist, just imagining everything around you?
I contend that you don't KNOW these things -- that indeed you CAN'T know these things.
That you simply believe them.
If you think I'm wrong, prove to me bo force of logic and argument that you exist.
But if all you have to say is "well, I KNOW it" then you are on the same level as those who assert KNOWLEDGE of the existence of God. And surely you don't want to be on that level, do you?
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
It's not that I'm worried about the discussion getting ugly -- it's that there's no point in discussing issues with people who only want to pontificate or score points, not use discussion as a forum for genuinely addressing issues and seeking understanding.
People who think they know it all are unable to discuss.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
If you want some real coffee, come on over sometime.
if you want some real coffee and some of the other real stuff, come on over NOW!!!
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I had hopes there for a while of a good, honest discussion, but they're fading.
Too bad. These are issues worth discussing seriously. But only with people who are interested in discussion and the search for truth, not in trying to score points because they know the truth period end of discussion.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
You are both wrong!
That bald assertion is not discussion.
What do you think is wrong, and why?
I don't think you are interested in intelligent discussion, sadly.
If you are, prove me wrong.
If not, forget it. I'm not interested in spending time just tossing "you're lying" "no, you're lying" nonsense around.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I know everything about ant psychology,
You have to decide whether you want a serious discussion, or whether you just want to play games.
If the former, I'm your guy, but you have to not make clearly false statements like the one I quoted.
If the latter, count me out. I'm way too busy for that silliness.
Your call. But if you want a true and intelligent discussion, act that way.
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Who are the recognized authorities in the field you trust.
And why do you trust them?
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
True. But most people are impatient!
Yes. Which is a shame.
Think of coffee and the adult subject I'm not allowed to mention here.
Both require time and care.
Both done hastily and without care are awful.
Both done with adequate leisure and care are as wonderful as it gets.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Ah, you claim to know something about ant intelligence, but then you resort to reliance on authority.
Authority you believe even though you have probably never met the authors of any publications you believe in.
You don't actually KNOW anything yourself about ant intelligence, do you?
When was the last time you talked to an ant about philosophy, music, art, war, social conditions, the causes of famine, and on and on?
When have any of your so-called authorities done this?
Science here is in the same basic state as Westerners who "discovered" a new world (which in fact had existed for qulte a while) and, because the beings there didn't speak their language or live as they lived, deemed them savages.
In fact, there were aspects of their culture which were more advanced than Western culture. But the Westerners were blind to that.
As your authorities are blind to the virtues of ant culture and civilization, which may in some ways be more advanced than our own.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
When I have time I will show you the error of your argument.
Unfortunately, I don't today, and probably not this week.
Think about this, though.
In order to believe that Hydrogen exists at all, you have to believe that you have some material substance, and that we are not all simply a dream of a child.
Descartes was wrong -- there is no way to prove we exist, any more than there is any way to prove that God exists. You just believe either, both, or neither, on faith. On what you think you perceive, and how you interpret it.
Faith and belief.
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The goal isn't to remove people. The goal is to encourage voluntary
compliance with "the rules", whatever they might be. Even if they're just "Be civil".
Excellent point.
Reformation, not punishment.
Doesn't work in our criminal system, but doesn't mean it won't work here.
But yes, it is more work!
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Actually, it's quite easy to clean. Takes lessthan a minute. Wash out the basket, clean off the wand. That's about it.
But if you don't keep it clean, the coffee oils get rancid, and the milk left on the wand sours, and things taste terrible.
So the rule is, before you start enjoying the drink, spend the 60 seconds to clean the machine.
if you like espresso drinks, there's no other way to go.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Everything starts with acceptance of some belief that cannot be proved.
Religion.
Science.
Mathematics.
Literatures.
They ALL depend on some core beliefs which it is impossible to prove. It's just a matter of which beliefs you choose to place your faith in.
I don't ridicule the ones you choose to put your faith in.
Why do you not give me the same courtesy?
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
What makes you think you know what stage of intellectual development ants have reached? I haven't chatted with one recently -- have you?
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Sorry. I'll try to get to it asap, but today is a very busy day for me.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
The problem being, of course, that what looks like benevolent dictatorship to the dictator doesn't always look so benevolent to the dictatee! (Does mikey think Matt is benevolent? <g>)
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I could see a very simple Terms of Use, and having it include "And the
following activities will get you shown the door in short order: Personal Attacks, Vulgarity, Threats,
Invasion of Privacy, and Spam."
That about covers it. That would be a fine TOU.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
There have been
many problems that have not been addressed or dealt with properly.
Correction. In your view, there have been many problems that have not been addressed in ways you have seen, or have not been dealt with in the way you think they should have been dealt with.
Just because you don't see something happening doesn't mean nothing happened.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I think I can maintain a firm atheist stance, be funny and watch the market from here without ruffling
many feathers.
Egad, ola, you've already ruffled more feathers here than my giant pillow ever had!
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Just bought my wife a Saaco machine, from Hammachler Schlemmler. I usually don't buy from them, but they claimed this was the best espresso machine going. Our Starbucks machine was a disappointment.
This one isn't. It is great. Makes excellent expresso, makes wonderful foamed milk, etc. Perfect.
I will lend it to the Corner Bar if people want top quality espresso drinks. You supply the coffee and milk. And return it CLEAN.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
How much are you personally willing to fork over to Matt so he can afford to hire the staff to do what you are suggesting?
There are on the order of 11,000 members.
Not all, of course, actively posting every day, and most not making complaints every day.
But then there are some who demand a lot of Matt's attention.
If you add up all the posts that people make wanting Matt's attention--problem reports which you want answered personally, alleged TOU violations which other people want answered personally, and the like, I don't know what it totals up to, but I rather suspect it would take a lot more time than Matt could afford to commit to a site that isn't making enough money to support him full time.
I'm just happy he is willing to have the site here and put in the time to keep it running as smoothly as it does.
I was going to make a suggestion that if you think everything should be personally answered you volunteer to do it. But I instantly realized that that would be worse than the present situation.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I don't understand the distinction you're making.
But, look at ant wars.
My limited understanding of biology is that from time to time certain ant tribes will go on the warpath against other ant tribes. Ethnic cleansing, if you will, in the tems of millions of deaths.
Is this responsive? Should we condemn human ethinc cleansing and not ant ethnic cleansing, and if so, why?
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I think it's something inbetween.
If you go out to dinner with friends and say something not appropriate, the restaurant owner doesn't come and toss you out of the restaurant. Your friends may stop inviting you to their parties, but that's a different thing.
The other thing is that although we're a community, there are lots of different views about what kind of community we should be, just as there are many very different communities. In true communities (I happen to know something about this, since I was brought up in whgat may be the oldest surviving intentional community in the country) the community together makes rules, and the community enforces them. But here, that isn't the case. You make the rules, whether written or unwritten, and you enforce them. Dictatorship, benevolent or not.
Not that you don't have the right to do that if you want to. As we used to say back on the sandlot (only ours wasn't sand, it was tall grass and if you hit a grounder you were lucky to have it go 10 feet), we were poor enough that usually only one kid had a good ball, and so it was his ball, and we played by his rules or he took the ball and went home. End of game. So it's your field, and your ball.
But that isn't a very satisfactory situation for adults, particularly those who pay to play
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I read the poem.
That doesn't mean I agree with it.
You haven't answered: why is the death of 7 million termites not a tragedy but the death of 7 million humans is?
Logical answer, please.
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I said the same thing to him in PM.
Great minds . . . LOL
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Thank you. There's little enough of that around.
I assume you got my PM. Did that address your issues? (Note I'm not asking whether you agreed with my answers, just whether the answers addressed the issues. There's a difference!)
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Why have a TOU?
I think because humans, particularly Ameericans, are conditioned to "play by the rules." But to do so there have to be rules.
What if in baseball they threw out the rulebook and the umpires said "play hard and right, and I'll decide what happens. If I decide you're safe or out, you are." Not much of a game.
It's the thing about absolute monarchy vs. rule of law. We don't accept the concept of benevolent dictatorship. Which is basically what a non-TOU site would be. No rule of law because no law. The law today is what Matt says it is. You put up a post. If his girlfriend shut him off last night and he's mad at the world, the post gets you canned. If she was super good to hiim and he's walking around in the rosy glow, nobody gets canned.
It just doesn't pass the societal smell test. I'm not saying it wouldn't work in practice. But I'm saying that it's just not a concept that people in our society are conditioned to deal with.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Reminds me of the truism:
God answers all prayers. But sometimes the answer is no.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Matt, you are right on.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
Why apples and oranges?
Why do you think it's okay when a million termites die of thirst in a drought, but terrible when a hundred humans do?
Why do you think it's okay if a disease virtually wipes out all the elm trees in this country, but terrible if a disease kills off a few hundred humans?
And why do you think God should be any less concerned with the one than the other?
Logical answers, please.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I don't believe it's my job to say what God should or should not want, or why things happen.
In nature, birds kill and eat live worms. Do the worms think that's fair? Lions run down zebras. Do the zebras think that's compassionate, or kind?
What are you doing to stop birds eating worms, or lions eating zebras?
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I am responding by PM.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
I will be glad to respond on the Parking Lot board if you really want a response. But not on Q&A.
Let me know.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.
It's hard for me, personally, to criticize Matt (or Bob) for not doing things here. I don't know about you, but I'm grandfathered, and so far haven't coughed up a voluntary donation. So I just appreciate whatever it is that they do, but as they say, beggers can't be choosers.
At some point, IMO, those who think they know how to run boads better than those who are actually running them should take a foray themselves into doing it. Then everybody can toss brickbats at them, and they can see how they like it.
Suggestions are one thing -- they are fine. But complaining because somebody who's doing something most of us aren't paying a penny for him to do isn't doing things they way we think they should be done -- well, that strikes me as a bit ungenerous.
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The cheaper the paper, the more important the information. Peter Lynch.