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saying a sell off is great is like saying how great it is that the ship is sinking cause now I have a hot tub in my cabin.. gheesh. Hope I'm worng but this is toast. It's starting to "Sink" in to some of the peope who bought the carrot.
LOL "A SELL OFF IS GREAT"? Omg I've heard it all. Been at this for nearly 20 years and everytiime I read that I laugh till it hurts. No sell off is "Great"! Ever, never. gheesh. the touts will say anything. ughh
guessing if they , ( Your buddies ) dive into the blue waters of this one, they might end up diving into the red tide
Like I said earlier. Lower highs,lower lows. This is toast unless the email comes out that the pump is on. But to be frank. Been at this trading chit for 18 years. Never seen anything like this before. If they DO come back and say pump is on. They open themselves up to a trainload of chit from regulators.
Actually I hope they DO follow through. I always make mega dough on this kind of crap. BUT. BUT. This could be the beginning of the end for this pump crew. SEC has to be just sitting back waiting right now as you guys are. They come out with a back up pump and this gets shutdown within a few dayz.
It's blatant manipulation at that point. Kind of mistakes the sec just waits for these pump newzletters to make. This ones toast guys. Hate to see a good thing come to an end but word is it's over.
Which really sucks as here again. The little guy gets a chance to make some dough to buy momma a new trailer and the gov't squashes it into the dirt.
These guys farked up bad on this one. Bigtime. Sure hope I'm proven wrong. Cause I enjoy making tons of dough from thier pumps.
Guess ole Davey is on that Last Train to Clarksville. Great guy, We lost a good one today. RIP
lower lows/lower highs intraday. Not looking to good. Watch what happens here as people who would like to hold bail to preserve cash. Hmmmm
AWSR is toast until and "IF" the promo is formally stated. Without it.. Tankaroo. Those who are in and firmly believe this "IS" the pick have been supporting it with minor buying. NO big money hitting this. Email hits this is the play and it will rocket.. Right now shorts have the upper hand and it's like taking candy from bambino
I'm thinking I'd rather ride around in a fur covered van than dump money into this . But. Then again. Darn thing probably go to 35.00 LOL. Gotta love pennyland
Is AWSR a prime example of dumb or dumber? If they say they being aps. this is our pick. Whoa. The sec will be all over this. Probably shut it down. Only because it's blatant stock manipulation for profit, Who knows. I don't. Just. One more day in pennyland. LOL
Dependzz on sale now!!!! Just 19.95 a box. Be ready for the next page to be turned on the AWSR Drama. Ughhhh. If your in you should have handy at your dispozal, Duct tape, Depends, Kayopectate, amodium number 15. And for those who have a neverous disposition a helmet might be a good idea. Enjoy, have fun and make money here in pennyland on the AWSR channel
OK, when APS releases the "Next" play, I'll jump in of course. But this was a huge blunder. Even the most opticalmistic person should by now see clearly with those rozza coloured glazzes it's time to pull out, have a smoke and hit the bar.
GAP DOWN in the AM
ROZZA COLOURED GLAZZES fer SALE!!! Only 9.95 on sale now. I would of loved if awsr was the next play. I've made money from past pumps from aps. But it's obvious this is a mongolian cluster fark from the beginning.
Companys pizzed, sec not real happy, real long term shareholders are livid. Nawww. I'll wait for that golden email that clearly sez what the next real fake pump and dump is.
LOL, Mz Janice is hardly a awsr basher. LOL. I need not defend her but hold on to your bottstraps if she decides to educate you. basher? LOL
See, it pays to pay well for proof reading. No stupid mistakes like aps made.
Well. Granny's going to have to go without her heart meds, diabetic meds, cat food and panty hose. I'm goin all in and listen to all the fine posters here telling me this is a sure thing.
I will however make sure granny getz her Thorazine.
Az always Mz Janice I find your comments to be dead nutz right on. APS is in a bit of a quagmire here. With the drastic fucuation in price and volume spikes it's easily attributed to this APS racket. Not only is this company up in arms just imagine how many of these cheereaders wil be the first to contact the "Gov" about being scammed by a pump newzletter if APS comes out and sez whoopz. Not our pick.
Well. This I can assure you already has the attention of some geek sitting in a cubicle somewhere in the basement of the sec. Just might be the gold pin for his or her lapel they need. Hmmmmm. This is a no win for aps. They come out and say yes it's our pic hel the company might file some sort of cease and desist. Should be fun to see how this one plays out over the next couple of months.
I sure wouldn't want my poor ole grannys med money in this one. Can hear it now. "Come on granny, suck it up, you can do without those meds for a few weeks. We're goin to disneyland once I make a wheelbarrow full of money from this one. Poor ole granny. Just suck it up
The FBI on Monday unveiled a videotaped message from the actor who played the infamous fictional insider trader Gordon Gekko to help bolster a wide-ranging attack on financial crimes.
At an FBI headquarters briefing on the stepped-up fight against financial misdealings, the bureau proudly showed a 30-second public service announcement featuring actor Michael Douglas. His character in the 1987 film "Wall Street," Gordon Gekko, proclaimed that "greed, for lack of a better word, is good." But in a new message to help the FBI, Douglas says, "The movie is fiction, but the problem is real."
Douglas asks viewers who suspect financial crime to contact the
Your thinking as I am Mz. Janice. These promo guys make too much money to chance or send an "Invitation" to the SEC for scrutiny of any kind. People articulate enough to run penny promos are not that careless to chance having the operation shut down. Still. Gotta love the drama that plays out on these threads.. LMAO
So my dear Mz. Janice. Curious what you think about this charade. I'm of the opinion that this wasn't an "Intentional" "Mistake" I'm also of the opinion that the real pick has yet to come. Gotta love this stuff. OL. The Penny Stock Drama just never ends. LOL.
GERN----> Long since 1.45 and will hold until it gets back to it'z 4 range
Im really tired of being exploited. My wife exploits me, my daughter, my mother, my sister krispy kreme exploits me the irs, even my beer buddy sam adams exploits me. And now drum roll please. Some farkin T-girl button from IHUB to get me to join etrash. Here I kept hitting the button expeecting a t-girl hooker. Noooooo. Etrash wants me to give them money cause they paid ihub to exploit me.
I need an exploited beer
ergo sum Share Sunday, January 29, 2012 1:01:35 PM
Re: LitesOut2012 post# 161577 Post # of 161611
Things that go poof
1. MIT sales office
2, Tape reading
3. Tape melting.
4 Profits
5. Pakit
6 Javaco's South American contacts
7 Deals in Africa.
8 Capt Mikes Navy.
9 Sales
10 John's shares.
Hmmmmmm, may we add a ghost patent which is still touted on the website?
Anybody what to help with this list?
that 8k was my hedge
Nawww, Whats going to be hilarious is come march when the sec gives ole juicy john a cold hard shot of reality.
Sad thing is those honest believers will be the ones to get hurt.
This shows going to get shut down if someone doesn't put his ego in his pocket and permit this company and dream to move on. Nothing wrong with being paid as a consultant.
Well. It appears that another day passes here at JumBahLieah. or JBII. ANd same old stuff gets kicked around. Nice to see share price appreciate. Thanks.
Unfortunately my dog ran away from the chinese restaurant and now they are sueing me for "Breach" of contract. The lady that bought the coat with the cat colar I made from my cat happened to be allergic to kats and got so sick she is in ICU. Her daughter wants me arrested and will probably sue me.
Wow can I relate to juicy john. Seems everytime all you want to do is help people and make a buck as it should be, lawsuits crawl outta the woodwork.
Oh well. I beat my dog , took the coat back and now need to come up with 75 bucks to pay off the complaints. Ughhh. Such is the life of an innovator.
looks like JBII will be fine until march. Anyone think we might reach 10.00 bucks a share by then?
Darn tootin. I'm all in. The repetitive posting of solid DD and positive reinforcement of JBII from true investors has helped me change my mind.
I sold everything. The house, everything in it, used the cat to make a fur collar on my X's old coat, got 30 bucks for that. Sold the dog to the chinese resturant doen the street, got 25 for it.
I'm all in. So tell me. How long am I gonna have to wait to get MY million bucks? I'm livin at the bus depot now and well. Sleeping on that bench last night didn't feel real good. Bathrooms are kind of yucky also.
But I've seen the light. There's no way Juicy John will fail us. We're all gonna be rich.
PS> I hope he hurys cause I'm getting tired already of these bums bummin my smokes. party tonight behind the bus depot if anyones interested. Gonna be a good one.
Gooooooo Goo and JBI
Ughh, Nothing like the ole Market Maker conspiracy. Everyone loves to blame someone else and truly love a real good mysterious mystery.
JBII is a thinly traded pink sheet stock. Has anyone who is talking about this conspiracy,, ever sat with an mm at a brokerage? has anyone ever been on the floor of naz? Doubt it. Because if you did you'd realise just how ridiculous this conspiracy to destroy JBiI is.
NO I repeat NO market maker is going to jeopardize his or her license to make a market over some thinly traded pink sheet company like JBII. It ain't happenenenen.
JBII is shooting themselves in their own foot with fraudulent accounting, bogus patents, nothing but the carrot on the stick BS to keep people strung along.
I'm not saying the tech isn't there. I'm not saying if a reeal manager ceo, ran captain was at the helm it couldn't succeed. NOPE
JBII is killing itself all because of one mans EGO.
So please stop with this insane conspiracy garbage it really makes people look ignorant to how the markets really work.
Remember, not one MM is going to take a chance on ending their carree over a couple of bucks. AIN"T gonna happen. gheesh
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/23/health/stem-cell-research-breakthrough/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
maybe abandoning stem cells will prove to be a huge mistake. Looks like they work. Read the article from CNNonline where they mention gern
"The Carrot on the Proverbial Stick"
Constantly I keep reading all the Hype here thats posted with the intent to "Valiadte" your investment. However!!!!
Buying/investing in shares isn't considered a gamble when a company presents itself to be worth one number but in reality is worth far less.
To make my point I'll give you a clear example.
Each year I had to go before a loan committee to secure our operating line of credit. I had to make my presentation based on a number of things. I won't go into all of them, but the ones relative to this issue.
Before each member was a book containing our past 5 years of financial statements. I would represent the company based on those statements.
In that book the last couple of statements couldn't show that lets say for sake of argument. That the company had 10 million in assets when in reality on had 1 million. The operating line of credit if based on a "Mistake" lets say showing 10 million. Would be what the lenders would base our line of operating credit on.
Great. We got the line of credit BASED on the 10 million figures. Credit secured.
A few weeks later or months later call them up and go , WHOOPS, hey by the way. that 10 million waas an accounting error, sorry. It's actually 1 million.
Wanna guess the final outcome of that call???????
Not only would our line of credit be pulled. I then would be "ARRESTED" for fraud. Thats right. Those wonderful people that had enough confidence in my FRAUDULENT numbers. Would have had me arrested for fraud.
I don't care how you paint this "Accounting error, The WHOOPS. Funds were raised clearly raised, based on a fraudulent number/figure. It's too late. You can't come back and just say WHOOPS oh and by the way we fixed it.
FRAUD is FRAUD. doesn't matter if it's 100.00 or 10 milion bucks. The SEC will win this. And Fraud being a felony. He will then be indicted by the feds for shareholder fraud. I can post a few actual past cases for fraud an the outcome of those charges if you like. Go get a home loan based on frauduent number then go back and say whoops, see what happens
The skpye transcript merely reinforces the intent to defraud potential investors. "Make it juicy">???????? Clearly shows and demonstrates his ability to deceive.
I don't care if this is viable tech. Doesn't matter. If he's so passionate about seeing his tech make the world a better place he should just come forth and admitt I did it. Let the company move on and if the tech is so lucrative be happy that he started something good. Unfortunately. His ego is too big, along with the 190000 salary he'd lose as well. For him to take his medicene.
the end doesn't justify the means to get there if you do it via deception and fraud. He screwed up, Bigtime.
This will destroy the dream. PPS fallls, he then needs to sell more paper to raise capital. It might take a year, two years maybe even three. But unless your honest john sucks it up and acts like a resonsible man
Good Morning. After observing, doing DD and reading this message board. I have come to one concusion based on 20 years of trading experience.
JBII is like every other scam. Too many inconsistencies.
Question: Since JBII proudly displays on their web page that the "PROCESS" is Patent applied for, ( Now thats dated 2009 ). Where's the communications regarding the status of this patent? Whats the patent applied for serial number? Ohhh, now I'm tired of hearing it's like Coca COla. Locked in a safe. We don't need no patent smaten.
Here's a link to answer a those questions you might have.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ahrpa/opa/kids/kidprimer.html
Here goes. YES I am accusing JBII of leaving that "Headline" on their website to deceive investors into believing that this process is being patented. When the time it takes to receive a Patent is around 22 months. We are waaaaay past 22 months. No patent, yeah we got it, or boooo we didn't.
Now. In conjunction with the relevant SEC charges, PIPES , delays, CEO paying himself 190K a year and losing a mil a month. My list of conflicts is much longer don't feel like typing them all out as I hate typing. But one of my favorites is , IT"S being shorted by the evildoers. And now the classic , "Pull your certs" STOP the shorting!!! laughable. ughh
God I've seen this same thing soooo many times, Look up WTAI, CMKM all went down and the longs behaved just as they do here. Toook 3 years to bring down wtai but we did. Same old same old.
YES, I'm saying there's enough evidence of slight of hand here to justify calling this a sham. Ohhhhh. This might go on for another year or two. But it will be exposed. Just like all the rest.
I just feel for the good intentioned people who believe so deeply in these con men. Everytime it's them who get hurt. And it's not just the financial pain. Worse is because of their experience, their money comes out of the markets. And it weakens our american backbone. Our country is only as strong as our financial markets. It's these con men that I despise. Juicy John WILL be exposed I can promise you that. Egomaniacs always lleave clues.
IF he's not trying to mislead investors take the patent applied for BS off the website. It's a lie it's deceiving. Just like the charges the sec brought him up on. Oh, we fixed that, RIGHT, after fraudulently raising capital with the fake numbers. OL
This from JBII website. Misleading or a lie??? You tell me? Gheesh, read the last paragraph. Just waitin?
Patent Pending Process
JBI, Inc.'s Plastic2Oil (P2O) process accepts mixed sources of non-recyclable plastic. Although many sources of feedstock are available, we are focusing initially on post-commercial and industrial sources, since these are readily available in large supply, and present a cost-effective solution for companies who currently have to pay to dispose of this plastic waste. We currently have several companies providing plastic feedstock.
The hopper is loaded with approximately 2,000 pounds of waste plastic, as needed, using a forklift. The plastic is loaded into the pre-melt reactor by a continuous conveyor between the hopper and the reactor. The plastic is then heated using the off-gases produced by the process. After the plastic has been liquified in the pre-melt reactor it passes through a solids-liquids separator before going into the main reactor.
In the main reactor, the liquified plastic hydrocarbons are cracked into various shorter hydrocarbon chains and exit in a gaseous state. JBI, Inc.'s proprietary catalyst and unique process engineering enables us to capture an average of 86% of the hydrocarbon content of plastic. The Petcoke residue produced at this stage (approx. 2-4%) remains in the processor chamber and is automatically removed while the processor is in operation.
From the main reactor, the gases that are fuel oil and diesel are condensed and separated, then proceed into temporary fuel tanks. All of the gaseous 'light fractions' or off-gases (approx. 10-12% of process output), such as methane, ethane, butane and propane, exit the system and are used to fuel the furnaces.
The fuel output is transferred to additional tanks for storage automatically by the system. Our automation system controls the conveyor feed rate, manages system temperatures and the off-gas compression systems, as well as periodically pumping out the newly created fuel to storage tanks. The P2O process is closed-loop.
John Bordynuik designed further enhancements to the P2O processor in early 2011, including two columns supporting 4 catalyst trays. In addition, he has added significant technology to downstream operations to guarantee fuel quality, along with installing an inline fuel additive injection system on both heavy and light fuel condensing systems. Bordynuik has also engineered a hot-tap residue removal process.
Quality control includes two columns for control and specificity of fuel fractions, a cyclone (particulate removal in vapor), fuel filters (particulate removal in liquid), and a centrifuge (additional redundant particulate trap), as well as column enhancements to guarantee particulate free fuel. Fuel additives are injected inline while fuel is being produced to increase their effectiveness. The new residue removal system works while the processor is running, so the reactor does not have to be cooled down or stopped to remove residue.
In Q2 2011, the Company modularized and standardized the system to racked reactors, feeders and towers. This reduced the system footprint to a few unique modules, making fabrication and installation for deployment simpler.
The fall months of 2011 were spent enhancing the P2O processor in preparation for the final NYSDEC stack test scheduled for December. Upgrades included the installation of low NOx burners and the addition of a pre-melt system to increase through-put volumes. The Company worked with third party fabricators to produce standardized reactors and towers and has received the assembled modules.
Many of the P2O process variations are unique to JBI, Inc. and the Company has filed for international patent protection through Osler, Hoskin & Hartcourt, LLP. The Company will continue to seek patent protection on subsequent innovations as they are developed and require protecting.
I own shares, However I don't put on rose coloured glasses. As an investor I want the truth from a company not BS.
Its been sometime , I can't remember the site. But it had boxes you had to check to indicate your position. long, short, not invested. in order for the post to go through.
When taken in context that statement isn't off topic. It was added to oinform those that wished to debate the information I posted, that I would be unable to respond, WHY?
Because of the limitation. Hmmm, seems appropriate and part OF the Topic.
I'm not going to split hairs. Been trading stocks for 20 years. Been there, seen it, done it, I even got the t-shirt. Remember when this site was just an idea,concept. What is sad is that trading stocks isn't aways pretty, when there's money on the line it's sometimes hard to sugar coat your every response. I remember working out of a physical trading room in san diego. Guys sitting across from each other were good buds. Then one day Front running led to an all out fist to cuffs brawl.
Point being. Trading stocks is the farthest thing from Disneyland there is. Although. I will admit it can be a real Barnum and Baily Circus sometimes and quite hysterical the stuff people will say.
Peace.
5 phone calls now to JBII. Not one person would answer my question as to how they loaded 17000 gals in a tank car. Yet. Many here keep talking about all the huge numbers of product that will be shipped out of the facility.
If you crunch the numbers of daily capacity those here want you to belive JBII is capable of. You would have a traffic jam of trucks. If you want to say rail tank cars can handle it. They have not one permit to construct a filling platform nor rail spur onto their private property as is required by law to handle this.
I've read of no PLAN in any public documents to add rail capabilities. If you wish to say they will subcontract that to another source. OK. Still. How many trucks can this tiny facility handle?
NOT one word of how long it takes to fill a tank truck. Anyone care to put up that info? Sorry. Even to fill tank trucks you have to by law have a catch system in place plus fire extinguishing capabilities BY LAW.
Tired of all the planetary and blue sky dream of me numbers. They have no means to provide the quanity to customers. DISTRIBUTION is as important as making the stuff. You gotta be able to get to the end user.
They have NO PEWRMITS> NONE for loading. Flammable, hazardous, product. they have permits for producing. Fine. Where are the permits for loading it, distributing it?
Nuff said.
done posting here. but will be back when this one goes under.
Been trading stocks for over 20 years. All you get from JBII is pie in the sky. Ummmm. First tip off. Then the pipes deals. Ok more we can't make it way of making it. Meanwhile JB is paying himself 190000 K a year? Ummmm. Seen this crap happen too many times before. Best of luck to you.
in response to P-51,,,Facts? do you really trust facts from a company being investigated for fraudulently selling pipes on numbers that were inflated?
I don't trust anything that they say.
I'm not a sexratary. I had one of those for over 20 years to do my typing. Just a typo. Don't worry about typing skills. Pay attention to the point and the context.
Thanks for the cheap shot
The focus of this board is to discuss issues related to the site,such as rules, feature requests, TOU, e
I'm trying to discus intelligently a TOU violation. I would say per your PM to me this is relevant.
Been around here a long time. Funny thing is. This site was originally set up so people could voice their opinions without this bigbrother censorship.
What irony
I've been around here since this threads inception. I can remember matt talking about the idea for this thread on SI.
It's absurd that my post was deleted. This is for stock discussion and it isn't always pretty nor sugar coated. This isn't Disneyland.
Here's the post. Deletion as per off topic is ludicrous.
Welllllll, you be the judge. As I am only permitted 2 posts per day here. Like to comment on that but won't. I've got something to tell yah. You can believe it, or you can put on the rose coloured glasses and stick the ole head in the sand. As sometimes it's easier to believe what you want. Sometimes it's easier to hear only what you wanna hear that in which fits your hopes and dreams. But here goes and I'm sure this post will be deleted. as most are that go against the ............anyway.
I was genuinely curious about the loading of a tanker rail car. As per any photos I saw showed no rail access. By law a company must fill and empty any rail tanker car on THEIR private property. Also. They must have approved catch pans that can accomadate any spillage or leaking of flammable hazardous materials. Not my fantasy, it's the environmental law. See. Part of NAFTA was the condition that canada, who by the way, is extremely environmentally protective ). And Mexico. Adhere closely to the guidelines as set forth by americas epa. All this bullcrap you hear about mexico being such a toxic waste dump is just that. bullcrap. Again. anyway.
So I called the number on jbii's webpage. first call no answer. An hour later, I got some guy. For all I know it was a janitor. But I asked. Word is that one of your end users sent a rail tank car to be filed with 17000 gals of your product. It's good to hear that the rail spur to your facility has been constructed. I then asked. How did you fill it without an approved filling station inclusive of filling platform and spill containment system? Or has that been constructed?
His reply was,,,,,none of your business, whatta yah work for the gov't or something? And then he hung up.
So. Thats my call report. Before you even for a second believe what I'm writing. I highly suggest you call JBII for yourself and ask them how they filled that tanker car. I'm not saying it didn't happen. In fact. I'm left with more questions than I originallly had.
Gloss over this point. But it's very important that if they are pumping out the number of gallons everyone loves to through around. They have the means to do it legally. No. Tha guy I talked to wanted nothing to do with discussing details about it.
All I will conject about that is. Seems like their is always more projected fullfulling dreams here than the reality of the small details.
It's easy to say. Well. to build a pinic table you just cut and nail some wood together. But tell me the details of how your going to do this. A list of procedures? Nope. Here we have all kinds of glossing over those. Only to fulfill what one wants to hear to fortify what you want to be the eventual outcome. Hmmmmmm. Smoke and mirrors.
Reminds me a lot of CARH. Oh they had tangable things you could see feel touch. Yet meanwhile the guy had an off shore account and was not only playing the runs up but shorting his own stock down.
My tipoff is a ceo of a million pus losing comapny per month, paying himself nearly 1900000 a year.
Thats a ot of money. It could be just incompetence within management. But I smell something bigger or the sec wouldn't be on their tail.
Make the call and ask them how they filed that tanker car? They won't tell you. They have no legal way to do it.
Just my opinion but one day the rats will run
As I only have two posts a day. Go ahead and rip into this, send me vugar and insultive PM's. Tear this post into pieces. And I will respond late tonight after you try to turn the mirrors away from "Details"
P.S. Show me the permits for the filling station. fire marshall approval for it?
How this works:
I just had a post on the JBII thread deleted as "Off Topic" Review that post. Clearly it is ON TOPIC.
IT's obsurd. Completely relevant. I posted my conversation with the company. Yet deleted as off topic?
No way. Your messing with someone who is an ignorant penny player.
I ran a business for over 20 years, manufacturing and retail.
That post was clearly on topic and a direct communication from the company.
Yet deleted as off topic. Ummmmmm. I'm not dropping this.
I'd like an answer justifying this post as off topic.