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please stop posting here truenut but rather go climb under your rock
Jorge, to clarify I was saying that with meetings taking place between MWR and BCSC, nothing has happened as of yet, I know things take time but you would think that somebody at the securities bod would demand ABX make a statement at least just to allow ALL investors of both companies make sound decisions and not be lied to or I meant this but I said that type of nonsense.
thats all, BTW, the first bit of todays PR made minutes ago from MWR looks good as yesterdays did, hopefully somebody will post the whole thing
NEW PRESS RELEASE TODAY, can somebody post the whole thing please
As a MWR shareholder I really hope regulators start doing their job and perhas as rover has stated a letter is due to the agencies who keep protecting barrick from the law, in canada there are wat too many people getting off scott free for their actions, perhaps things should change
JL said at the AGM that its just a matter of time now and barrick has been defeated at law, my point is that it doesn't matter what the hell happens in Chile if Canadian authorities won't do anything about it
I wish you and all of us good luck, however, here is my take on this whole thing.
It is great that MWR continues the little pokes at ABX, however, I honstly believe that you or JL or MWR's BJ can show regulators in Canada any clean title documents and these bodies will just continue to protect the rich and powerful abx players.
I believe it does not matter what happens in Chile with courts with arrest warrents, even if they one day are issued from Chile because Canada unfortunately is a complete joke when it comes to these types of cases.
Perhaps MWR may get some push out of SEC in NY but I highly doubt for a minute that the two Canadian regulating bodies will do anything no matter what paperwork you put on their desk,
They have been sold out for many years just as the TSX has been by abx, why do you think MWR moved exchanges, obviously because of not being allowed to express the truth via press releases.
Now that many press releases have been exposed and no reaction for abx means to me that all these people look at mwr as a joke and there is no way others will pursuade regulators to regulate.
too bad the truth hurts, but I cant see this really going anywhere until regulators start doing their job properly and stop protecting rich and powerful people.
I have called the ABX investor relations people more then once asking various questions regarding the ownership issues and I was either told the same, has no impact of the pascua lama protocol or we believe our ownership has nothing to do with what others are saying and posting, even the PR's from MWR WOW
I would love to hear their, ABX reaction now!!!
ok, this is bs, the facts have already been accepted by TSX and others, just because a company like ABX commits fraud, if what you say is true, then I would expect the TSX and every other regulator out there to order EVERY company to retest their drill results.
I am not thinking that ABX did their own testing but rather just the drilling, one would think it is an independant organization that provides the results with hopefully no idea as to what company supplied the samples
Thougths
I think my go to man, Jorge has been typing that ABX will soon fall to its knees in mercy by SEC and other regulators such as BCSC and OSC, so I am just thinking that somebody from Jorges law team or MWR? dont know and really dont care must be bringing something on paper substantial to the regulators to shut down barrick or at least bring attention to our situation, Which is finally overdue.
This loser who continues to drive the PPS down wont have this option much longer I am hoping.
Keep the positive thoughts and again from the AGM and from what Jorge has been typing on the boards, I think they may have the goods to nail the ABX coffin closed this time, with no more outs from regulators, if they dont act appropriately this time, I think they too could perhaps be infront of a judge one day
thoughts?
I suppose everybody is entitled to their opinion lol
I find the rants hilarious perhaps true but funny none the less and I hope things work out for MWR shareholders
If more people would do this I believe would have more impact then just a few, so get on the horn tomorrow everybody, call ABX investor relations and start demanding questions answered.
At least they will realize oh oh, this is now out since the MWR AGM, how dare they tiss tiss
just do it, there is nothing to lose
Firstly, I called one of the senior investor relations people only to learn that after the quick discussion of Q and A's she told me, oh she is out right now, however, I will have another senior investment advisors call you back, probably this afternoon, well that never happened.
1. Is Barrick having any lititgation problems in Chile?
Answer, not that I am aware of sir.
2. Is it true that ABX has been in court in the last 3 months in Chile over Pascua Lama?
Answer, I do not think so sir.
3. Why was there no signature with the halfazard response on Dec 21st regarding the previous press release from MWR regarding fraud at Pascua Lama?
Answer, I am not aware of this response? Then I told her it was on the ABX website, things then went very silent for a moment.
4. Why has ABX said in their financials that they have ownership of 18million oz of gold, more silver, and other ore at pascua lama in Chile, yet there are others such as MWR that are saying otherwise and no comments?
Answer, I would have to pass you on to somebody else to answer this?
5. Peter Munk has been asked by another publicly traded company to show title at pascua lama in Chile namely MWR, however, to date there has be no response?
Answer,I am unaware that this has even happened? I followed up by stating that You an employee of ABX in a position of Investor Relations cant answer this question really makes me think something is going on behind the scenes, as that is something you should be able to answer without batting an eyelid.
6. Why has ABX not responded to the latest press release from MWR dated yesterday Jan 31st in the last little blurb, They the company MWR states, ABX only owns salts and nitrates at pascua lama?
Answer, I will have somebody call you back to answer all of your questions, I am not in a position to answer that, sorry.
7. I finally asked her if she thought there would be any pressing issues with MWR moving forward?
Answer, I thought all of that was cleared up already?
What a joke they are at ABX but of course, this is just my opinion as anybody could answer the phone at a large corporation get grilled with questions and just play stupid but reality serves me that I am in the opinion that they, abx knows that something is possibly coming their way to make them answer questions so perhaps they are in a group hug thinking up excuses to get out of trouble, but who knows really, Jorge claims to know.
Thoughts?
I called this morning to ABX and actually somebody ansered, so I asked them what was happeing in Chile at Pascua Lama, she told me "I thought all that was cleared up already" I said, WHAT, ABX has not answered to a mickey mouse company such as MWR from their press releases that ABX is fraud...blah blah blah... and that they just told the world that ABX only owns salt and nitrate claims in Chile, She responded with lots of ahhs, and ummmhs,
I asked her 6 questions in english, although I type incorrectly, I can speak the language quite well, Better the Jorge I am sure and she could not answer ONE SINGLE QUESTION I asked,
She then took my name and phone number and told me that a SENIOR ADVISOR will be calling me back probably this afternoon, WELL ABX LOSER, they did not call me back, I live on the westcoast, they are gone for the day, UNLESS they are having a pow wow figuring out how to respond to my 6 VERY EASY questions without further idicting themselves.
This ABX company, the largest miner in the world in my estimation from my experience on the phone with them are BACK PEDDLING BIG TIME and cant answer 6 EASY QUESTIONS from a potential investor, WHAT A JOKE and MWR I think has them by the THROAT.
1 or 2 more breaths and I think MWR could slash the throat, hence, bringing SALT PETER MUNK to the ground with all of his sheep crooked followers!!!
I thought differently before that Jorge may be hiding something but after taking 5 minutes from my life to call ABX to enquire, THEY are useless creatures who cant even answer 6 simple questions from a potential investor.
I ended the conversation with I did attend the MWR AGM last Friday, she was again OHHHHHH MYYYYYYYYYYYY! did I screw up? type of voice,
Cheers
Hopefully not Vanderzam, excuse my spelling, just saw on the news this am that he is going to be dragged into court again for something but he did kick ass with the BC HST caused the referendum and British Columbians told the Government how pissed off they were.
If you are referring to the drunk who recently resigned, I would rather you not contact him as he will only hurt our cause. IMO, he has not one piece of credibility and his last name starts with C and rymes with a very popular soup
Federal or Provincial, please advise, as if you are talking Federal please condsider who has a majority in Canada, Brian Mulroney's friends, Conservatives, dont think your friend from the Feds unless of course opposition will be willing to help
JMHO
Jorge, would it not be possible for BJ and company to rally the troops, new evidence at hand, and really stick it publicly or are there other such barriers that would have to be still in place or I am sure they would have put the new evidence at hand out already that was not available to them AGM day?
I appreciate your feedback rover, you are most certainly entitled to that, I am just thinkning that this could look more like a circus to people should shareholders get involved as a group, what might be better is to do like the others have done and camped out infront of such buildings around the world, as MWR shareholders are not all from Vancouver, and call it Occupy Barrick infront of such buildings, BCSC in Vancouver and OSC in Toronto, that may as a group take attention of the public and these organizations to get the word out and put pressure on said organizations to help our cause and stop protecting ABX insiders.
Thoughts most welcomed,
Perhaps as indicated in the AGM last friday is that somebody pointed to the direction of a Press Conference when MWR had what they needed to beat ABX down at the knees.
I believe this is the most effective way to GET NOTICED, as something like this would be seen by all avenues of media, bcsc, osc, sec, desc, and any other acronyms you would like to add to this,
If MWR has what PF claims them to have then I see no reason for pussy footing around anymore, just THROW it out there and lets see how ABX and the markets react,
To date it seems to me that ABX has no outs, MWR holds the giant miner by the throat so instead of banding together to fight, MWR should just do something toward multi media and be done with it.
thoughts welcomed,
My honest opinion is that if these organizations will not listen to MWR with actual proof of evidence, then they most certainly will not take your personal letter very serious either
I agree with Jorge's post, people are shorting and manipulating the pps now because they can, however, when ABX is found guilty of fraud, stripped of PL, then that asset will be put on MWR's books, the public will know about this, IT will be big news here and nothing ABX can do to not make that happen, PPS will go up substantially, lets just be patient and see what ammunition MWR/BJ has to take to the table next to get this done
hope you didn't really think the pps was going to move up from the AGM on Friday? I believe that is what moved it to to $1.00, until some really groundbreaking news comes, buy low and hopefully cash in high which will probably take a while as PF has indicated due to regulators in Canada
Open I guess 1.25 then falling as momentum subsides to around .65
I know this and you know this as well as many others but Jorge said at the agm that ABX must have ore claims struck from their books for what they have be lying about for years and then MWR has them put on their books and I believe That to be the challenge right now, hopefully authorities change their attitude and begin doing their job or they could find themselves in hot water at law down south from JL's lips
I too felt good after what I heard at the AGM, roughly 15 mins from MWR lawyer with BJ perhaps another 5 mins then it was the Q and A with Jorge that took roughly 3.5 hrs and he did answer many questions clearly and others slightly vague, IMO
I do however remember him sayinmg as new clear day has written that MWR may go to santiago and sign on as 50per cent owners on PL which is great BUT you forgot one important thing NCD
There cannot be 2 owners of the same said claim, therefore, BJ and MWR team MUST have said claim struck from$ ABX's books before the claim and reward can be applied to MWR books
I believe this will happen soon when authorities see proper documentation from Chile as Jorge claims in an aforementioned post that is coming this week and MWR has this information post AGM so the next few weeks shall most certainly be interesting
i would think those folks dont know where the test drill samples are from to keep them honest but just a guess
Just wondering if it is possible for BJ to halt the stock during the AGM tomorrow pending news? Anyone know if this could be an off the wall situation?
Can anybody post the whole PR released today, I read what I could, not exciting but would like to read the whole thing if possible
thanks in advance,
I agree and although a little embarrasing I think his or her rants hold some validity for things to come, although perhaps out to lunch with timings, PS's rants usually then are repeated in different language with PR's so good things to come if PF's rantings of late hold true
I find the ranting of an amusing nature to say the least
Agreed and from your last poat bootstrap there are many embarrasing posts by not only SD on other sites as well PF rants although embarrasing I find most of them to be accuarate and others such as quer must have bi polar disorder from two faced posted within minutes of each other on different sites almost like posting something positive here on this board toward mwr and then rant something totally the opposite on another board but that's the beauty of these boards you can basically rant whatever you want with no reprucussions for example I think I saw a post from today or yesterday on y board from PF that on monday ABX is going down so 2 things here either PF knows something that most are not privy to or his or her timeframe is out to lunch and the rant will perhaps come true down the road but I must say although embarrassing PF seems to be pretty accuarate
True, but I also think that if nothing happens in the next couple or few months then probably nothing will happen and people will be fed up and dump MWR as if they will think oh, ABX is too big to take down and regulators continue to regulate only on companies they want to and ignore others and remember folks, there are alot of powerful people involved in ABX so this a total crap shoot which I believe my investment of thousands unfortunately is a write off but I knew that before pulling the trigger on MWR
Its not that the company is run by a group of idiots but rather there are probably many hurdles to jump and hopefully the other side is running out of corners to hide in should the information that PF keeps ranting about is true, but really that PF is out of line and really turning this whole thing into a circus IMO.
Its one thing to post accurate assumptions but off side to post things like pooping his pants...ect...
I doubt it, who cares this week next week next month, whatever but that does remind of a kid asking Are We There Yet, lol
As Bootstrap once told me a while back, in his opinion, Friday is the worst day of the week for any pr's so probably nothing until next week some time earliest is my guess
Quer must have sold his position today at .51
GOLD WARS starring
ABX as The Emperor
Peter Munk as Darth Vador
Quer as Luke Skywalker
Sooshie as Princess Leah
Dazoff as Han Solo
Rover as Yoda
Bootstrap as R2D2
Goldfork as C3PO
Island looker as the story teller
Darth Vador is right now calling Luke Skywalker to the DARK SIDE of the Mine, sell your position on MWR and come to the Dark Side of the MINE
lol
You just contradicted yourself again Quer by saying BJ is not an idiot but this stock is going nowhere, if that is what you truely believe, then sell your position like I did and buy into ABX
Come on man, wake up
IF you think MWR has nothing from Chile sell out NOW QUER and please stop the bs, you type as if these guys like BJ are idiots
i would assume that goes for sexual orientation because where i live there are alot of crossdressers and the like but really, who cares what happens behind closed doors, like this whole circus the truth to everybodies answers will come out to the public soon
lol
I would most certainly hope so, usually a public traded company doesnt go into an option agreement with somebody like JL hand over $2million and then just walk?
yes i did, sorry
Quer, play nice in the sandbox and stop using my name as if I said he said i said nothing directed from anybody just my opinion so please stop the bs now