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LET FACTS, ACTIONS & COMMON SENSE DICTATE PROOF UNTIL DISTRIBUTIONS ARE VERIFIED WITH ACTUAL PROOF
Let us posit one question. If COOP was getting ready to claim Xome was being sold for 1.5B and it was proven through another investor before the official filing affirming,
DO YOU THINK COOP WOULD RISE IN VALUE BEFORE THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT...OF COURSE, IT WOULD RISE SIGNIFICANTLY
So, with an investor claiming they have already received some interest related to the BONDS,
WOULD NOT AN ASTUTE INVESTOR ASSUME THE BONDS WOULD RISE IN ANTICIPATION OF BEING MADE WHOLE... OF COURSE, THEY WOULD ASSUME THE BONDS WOULD RISE
***HOWEVER, HOWEVER NOT IN THIS CASE AS THE BONDS AN INVESTOR CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN PAID ON...SO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION ON FACTS AND ACTIONS, AS THESE TELL THE REAL STORY***
Also, an investor assumes the other 15B in bonds held by relatively few very astute investors have been paid interest as well,
BUT NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN BONDS AT THIS POINT, SO THIS FACT ALONE MAKES IT HARD TO BELIEVE ANY MONIES RELATED TO THE BONDS HAVE BEEN PAID OUT TO ANY INVESTORS PERIOD
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BBB/CWG, let's posit one question. If COOP was getting ready to claim Xome was being sold for 1.5B and it was proven through another investor before the official filing affirming,
DO YOU THINK COOP WOULD RISE IN VALUE BEFORE THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT...OF COURSE, IT WOULD RISE SIGNIFICANTLY
So, with an investor claiming they have already received some interest related to the BONDS,
WOULD NOT AN ASTUTE INVESTOR ASSUME THE BONDS WOULD RISE IN ANTICIPATION OF BEING MADE WHOLE... OF COURSE, THEY WOULD ASSUME THE BONDS WOULD RISE
***HOWEVER, HOWEVER NOT IN THIS CASE AS THE BONDS AN INVESTOR CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN PAID ON...SO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION ON FACTS AND ACTIONS, AS THESE TELL THE REAL STORY***
Also, an investor assumes the other 15B in bonds held be a relatively few very astute investors have been paid interest as well,
BUT NO SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN BONDS AT THIS POINT, SO THIS FACT ALONE MAKES IT HARD TO BELIEVE ANY MONIES RELATED TO THE BONDS HAVE BEEN PAID OUT TO ANY INVESTORS
PERIOD
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Jh, maybe an 8K between now and Tuesday OTHER THAN the 10K for last year historical numbers??????
I expect negative news for the first quarter of this year but that will not be shown in the 10K.
However, I expect negative news in the filing as they are having the meeting on a Friday.
Generally speaking, news on Fridays is reserved for under-the-radar and negative news from my experience.
We shall soon see…
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NDT, sure she would have because the opposing counsel Akum Gump said they could go after them later and understood the EC would want to have a third party review the assets.
That is why we did not see the assets because they could not be used in court but they could be used by EC to make an agreement and so this was what mediation was all about.
The EC did not make an agreement for the EC to be shut out with virtually nothing.
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As far as I know they did, but totally redacted just like the real case was with over 800 docs redacted.
The public case for public consumption shows a perfect chapter eleven case followed by a perfect reorganization
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CWG, I was being facetious referencing the filings even though there is no ambiguity on the 75/25 to the very end…these facts do not count depending on one’s investment decisions.
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Lex, there have been absolutely no changes in my account that have the same exact five flavors of (SD) Subdinated Debt/Bonds that another poster has. There has been no distribution to date.
According to Fidelity, I am an accredited investor able to buy bonds for what that is worth.
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PROOF FROM A HORSE'S MOUTH ON BONDS-LET US PUT AN END TO THIS UNTIL ACTUAL DISTRIBUTIONS HAPPEN
From a well-respected BP Poster-reposted with approval
Quote from: Porkchopranch on Today at 11:37:18 AM
You don't need all that. To buy these bonds, you didn't have to be an accredited investor. If you have the bonds...you get paid, simple. No special forms to complete, no special calls to make.
I've been a junk bond investor for over 30 years, believe me, I know how it works.
I've been through numerous restructurings and been paid numerous times post-ch. 11. The money is put right into your account by DTC. Simple, seamless.
Very similar to what I (LG) wrote earlier...BONDS OWNERSHIP FOLLOWS THE BONDS OWNERSHIP CUSSIP NUMER
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newflow, thanks for your continued research and sharing. So far, impressive website in terms of experience and potential
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PROOF FROM A HORSE'S MOUTH ON BONDS-LET US PUT AN END TO THIS UNTIL ACTUAL DISTRIBUTIONS HAPPEN
From a well-respected BP Poster-reposted with approval
Quote from: Porkchopranch on Today at 11:37:18 AM
You don't need all that. To buy these bonds, you didn't have to be an accredited investor. If you have the bonds...you get paid, simple. No special forms to complete, no special calls to make.
I've been a junk bond investor for over 30 years, believe me, I know how it works.
I've been through numerous restructurings and been paid numerous times post-ch. 11. The money is put right into your account by DTC. Simple, seamless.
Very similar to what I (LG) wrote earlier...BONDS OWNERSHIP FOLLOWS THE BONDS OWNERSHIP CUSSIP NUMER
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Strike, here you go. Lawyers for Akim Gump.
Also One of My All-time Favorites – The WaMu “Holy Grail” – Your Honor, The Assets Will Still Be There – The EC Can Go After Them Later
2. Pages 70-72 of Transcript Link Below
We also have in there the part (b) of what is to be retained, and that is because in negotiations that we had with all of the settling parties, with the equity committee last week, with the FDIC, we did talk a great deal about the concept of the retained ASSETS.
Now, it's my position, Your Honor, that the examiner doesn't need to do much with the retained assets other than say the assets are retained and therefore the liquidating trust can go ahead and pursue them. They will still be there; they can be carried through. But I understand that the equity committee is very interested in having a neutral third party do an investigation of those retained assets.
http://www.sidedraught.com/stocks/WashingtonMutual/Transcripts/2010%20July%2020/08-12229-20100720.pdf
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Denny, if the bonds were being paid they would be trading like crazy and they are not
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Exactly copy/paste save personal info but this may show a different story
Bond Holder ownership follows CUSSIP ownership numbers
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Woody, you said the following:
A WMB Class 17 ]Corporate Bond Owner must be Finra Compliant regarding ownership, and issued through a Direct Broker', or the WMI-LT would not have to pay the FJR Interest accumulated for these past seven years since 2012' .
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Woody, is a CORPORATE BOND HOLDER the same as an INDIVIDUAL RETAIL BOND HOLDER? Yes, a question to you
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Exactly but some filings do not count if they show another side of the coin with what actually hapoened!
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PROOF-IF MONIES DISTRIBUTED TO ANY RELATED WaMu SECURITIES INCLUDING BONDS/SD
A simple copy/paste of distribution from one’s account of course saving any personal information
HINT. Per FDIC…Bond ownership follows CUSSIP number ownership
Tranche 4 Piers - capped nothing further
Tranche 5 - Bonds/SD
Tranche 6 - Preferred Equity Interests and Common Equity Interests
Anything short of this is misleading!
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AZC, you said the following:
2nd', NationStar and its subs, were acquired by WMIH ... the Mr Cooper Group is a sub of WMIH, ... and WMIH also has a parent' ... who knows who that is ? ... hmmmmm
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Did you get the aforementioned from the following post?
1) Remember, WMI became a (DST) Delaware Statutory Trust during the second week of March 2012 with Kosturos WMI DST Trustee on the (ED) Effective Date of 3/19/2012 with ALL Preferred/Common Prospectuses & associated documents canceled
2) I look for WMI DST which is laying dormant to be merged with COOP on/before 12/31/2023
3) COOP may or may NOT remain a public traded company which MAY be an indication as to why COOP's equity price is kept very low - if a buyout happens they can give COOP a 10 to 20 percent premium from current trading prices which will still be far below what it should be
4) I expect WMI to issue a Private Placement of securities to those investors who signed timely releases by 3/2012 however, ONLY for timely-signed preferred releasors able to participate. as there is a reason the UWs ensured they were in class 19. I believe this is the reason UWs in class 19...so if this comes to pass, timely-signed common releasors will be bought out in total
5) There is something major on the very near horizon that keeps COOP price depressed and this will come to pass at some point before yearend 2023 in my view
6) ONLY time passing and filings will show us the way forward, especially for those investors who signed timely releases by 3/2012
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Now we on right board
Vodka, Sunday, 02/05/2023 3:59:50 PM
Now that is a POSSIBILITY but the whole thing smells since it would have been so easy to copy/paste some proof save personal data.
A few years back when he did the same similar action with the 15 billion in (SD) Subdinated Debt, Bonds or whatever you want to call them he implied many changes to these five flavors of bonds as if imminent distributions were forthcoming.
Well, I never told anyone on these boards that I owned these exact same flavors of SD/bonds, so I called him out on this copy/pasting my five flavors of bonds with FIDELITY with NO CHANGES then he never talked about these bonds on the board again for over a couple of years.
This appears to be the exact same principle, even though I expect distributions soon or at least advised of the same, I do not look for his actions to imply the same.
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Here you go Ron:
Article Written 6/2018-What Purpose-POTENTIAL LEAK? Tried To Time Distributions?
Have Not Seen Large Amounts of Money To Several Hundred Families YET
WaMu-13 plus Years in Making - Article Refers To WaMu? Read Article VERY CLOSELY
***ALL ROADS LEAD TO (DSTs) DELAWARE STATUTORY TRUSTS PLUS Other Potential Buckets***
Think how large JPM is and the others in the same league and then think that JPM has only 55 of these individuals/entities which shows how very, very wealthy these people/entities are and how very large JPM is worldwide.
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Article from Bloomberg Magazine:
It’s Billionaires at the Gate as Ultra-Rich Muscle In on Private Equity
In an era of hyper-affluence, JPMorgan and Credit Suisse cater to a super-exclusive class.
By Simone Foxman and Sonali Basak
June 11, 2018, 5:00 AM EDT
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-11/it-s-billionaires-at-the-gate-as-ultra-rich-muscle-in-on-private-equity
I thought this paragraph was 'interesting':
"Still, with so much money and influence at stake, bankers are pitching hard. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. has its own list of 60, counting among its clients the Reimann family’s JAB Holding Co. and the Koch brothers’ investment firm. JPMorgan, in addition to its initial 55, is watching several hundred families that are poised to enter this rarefied realm."
"JPMorgan, in addition to its initial 55, is watching several hundred families that are poised to enter this rarefied realm."
NOTE: "is watching several hundred families that are poised to enter this rarefied realm."
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Now, read this statement again and let this sink in!
"JPMorgan, in addition to its initial 55, is watching several hundred families that are poised to enter this rarefied realm."
Now, let me ask a question, considering so how very much wealth JPM is speaking about to be in the rarefied realm, other than the US Government, wherein the United States could so much money come from to put "several hundred FAMILIES" in the rarefied realm which OBVIOUSLY has NOT HAPPENED YET?
Now think about a 350 billion dollar seized (5AT payback) organization that was being run under the cover of "legal darkness" for almost 14-plus years (9/25/2008) with monies being segregated in court-approved registry accounts without interruption AND with very little overhead AND very few employees.
We know from filings that at least three of these accounts are at Wells Fargo
There could easily be several hundred families and may be exactly what JPM is referring to BECAUSE, yes, and unfortunately, they would have the names/accounts of investors who signed timely releases.
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Great and thank you.
Boris, in all fairness all he had to do is post a little copy/paste of his account minus personal info and leave all the drama out but no he has to play hide the sausage which has been playing out for 14 plus years
Xxx
Wow, you still entertaining…hehehehe…LOL
Xxx
Exactly plus much more of endless dribble when all it takes is a very small paragraph showing one’s info (save personalized info) in a simple copy/paste.
Xxx
$27, wow, you are actually falling for this nonsense? Do not misunderstand me, I fully expect and am looking for something to happen soon but all this takes is a little copy/paste (save personal info) from one’s account for verification.
Falling for this as from my experience, he did not receive monies from WaMu timely signed releases for associated securities.
Just more games from him like he did on the Bonds a couple years ago until I posted my bonds which are the same as he has with no change. He then did not talk about the bonds for two years or so.
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COULD THIS BE US? IF SO, PROOF WMI DST IS ALIVE AS POSITED FOR YEARS & WILL LIKELY PLAY A PIVOTAL IN POTENTIAL DISTRIBUTIONS…AGAIN PROVES THREE VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS/ACTIONS
1) WMI IS STILL ALIVE as posited when is became a DST in early March of 2012
2) Delaware Statutory Trust is Real & Likely Avenue For Future Distributions
3) Safe Harbor is REAL and ALIVE As Shown In The Following Filing
Even if this is NOT us, this filing still proves Safe Harbor and DST are real as discussed for years
Thanks to Govie on BP
Private placements - Rule 506(b)
(Deleted portions to keep minimal)
https://www.sec.gov/education/smallbusiness/exemptofferings/rule506b
Section 4(a)(2)
Rule 506(b) of Regulation D is considered a “safe harbor” under Section 4(a)(2). It provides objective standards that a company can rely on to meet the requirements of the Section 4(a)(2) exemption. Companies conducting an offering under Rule 506(b) can raise an unlimited amount of money and can sell securities to an unlimited number of accredited investors. An offering under Rule 506(b), however, is subject to the following requirements:
no general solicitation or advertising to market the securities
securities may not be sold to more than 35 non-accredited investors (all non-accredited investors, either alone or with a purchaser representative, must meet the legal standard of having sufficient knowledge and experience in financial and business matters to be capable of evaluating the merits and risks of the prospective investment)
If non-accredited investors are participating in the offering, the company conducting the offering:
Purchasers in a Rule 506(b) offering receive “restricted securities." A company is required to file a notice with the Commission on Form D within 15 days after the first sale of securities in the offering. Although the Securities Act provides a federal preemption from state registration and qualification under Rule 506(b), the states still have authority to require notice filings and collect state fees.
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Groma CCP WMI DST October 19, 2022
https://disclosurequest.com/form/groma-ccp-wmi-dst/0001879785-22-000070
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed the information in this filing and has not determined if it is accurate and complete.
The reader should not assume that the information is accurate and complete.
UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM D
Notice of Exempt Offering of Securities
OMB APPROVAL
OMB Number: 3235-0076
Estimated average burden
hours per response: 4.00
1. Issuer's Identity
CIK (Filer ID Number) Previous Names
X None
Entity Type
0001947539
Corporation
Limited Partnership
Limited Liability Company
General Partnership
Business Trust
X Other (Specify)
Delaware Statutory Trust
Name of Issuer
Groma CCP WMI DST
Jurisdiction of Incorporation/Organization
DELAWARE
Year of Incorporation/Organization
Over Five Years Ago
X Within Last Five Years (Specify Year) 2022
Yet to Be Formed
2. Principal Place of Business and Contact Information
Name of Issuer
Groma CCP WMI DST
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 NEW CHARDON STREET
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode Phone Number of Issuer
BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS 02114 617-910-0178
3. Related Persons
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Priebatsch Seth
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Bell Paul
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma Advisor, LLC n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Signatory Trustee and Asset Manager
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma NAV REIT Operating Partnership, LP n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Operating Partnership
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma NAV REIT, Inc. n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Parent of Operating Partnership
Last Name First Name Middle Name
GromaCorp, Inc. n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: Executive Officer Director X Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Sponsor
4. Industry Group
Agriculture
Banking & Financial Services
Commercial Banking
Insurance
Investing
Investment Banking
Pooled Investment Fund
Is the issuer registered as
an investment company under
the Investment Company
Act of 1940?
Yes No
Other Banking & Financial Services
Business Services
Energy
Coal Mining
Electric Utilities
Energy Conservation
Environmental Services
Oil & Gas
Other Energy
Health Care
Biotechnology
Health Insurance
Hospitals & Physicians
Pharmaceuticals
Other Health Care
Manufacturing
Real Estate
X Commercial
Construction
REITS & Finance
Residential
Other Real Estate
Retailing
Restaurants
Technology
Computers
Telecommunications
Other Technology
Travel
Airlines & Airports
Lodging & Conventions
Tourism & Travel Services
Other Travel
Other
5. Issuer Size
Revenue Range OR Aggregate Net Asset Value Range
No Revenues No Aggregate Net Asset Value
$1 - $1,000,000 $1 - $5,000,000
$1,000,001 - $5,000,000 $5,000,001 - $25,000,000
$5,000,001 - $25,000,000 $25,000,001 - $50,000,000
$25,000,001 - $100,000,000 $50,000,001 - $100,000,000
Over $100,000,000 Over $100,000,000
X Decline to Disclose Decline to Disclose
Not Applicable Not Applicable
6. Federal Exemption(s) and Exclusion(s) Claimed (select all that apply)
Rule 504(b)(1) (not (i), (ii) or (iii))
Rule 504 (b)(1)(i)
Rule 504 (b)(1)(ii)
Rule 504 (b)(1)(iii)
X Rule 506(b)
Rule 506(c)
Securities Act Section 4(a)(5)
Investment Company Act Section 3(c)
Section 3(c)(1) Section 3(c)(9)
Section 3(c)(2) Section 3(c)(10)
Section 3(c)(3) Section 3(c)(11)
Section 3(c)(4) Section 3(c)(12)
Section 3(c)(5) Section 3(c)(13)
Section 3(c)(6) Section 3(c)(14)
Section 3(c)(7)
7. Type of Filing
X New Notice Date of First Sale 2022-10-06 First Sale Yet to Occur
Amendment
8. Duration of Offering
Does the Issuer intend this offering to last more than one year?
Yes X No
9. Type(s) of Securities Offered (select all that apply)
X Equity Pooled Investment Fund Interests
Debt Tenant-in-Common Securities
Option, Warrant or Other Right to Acquire Another Security Mineral Property Securities
Security to be Acquired Upon Exercise of Option, Warrant or Other Right to Acquire Security Other (describe)
10. Business Combination Transaction
Is this offering being made in connection with a business combination transaction, such as a merger, acquisition or exchange offer?
Yes X No
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
11. Minimum Investment
Minimum investment accepted from any outside investor $0 USD
12. Sales Compensation
Recipient
Recipient CRD Number X None
(Associated) Broker or Dealer X None
(Associated) Broker or Dealer CRD Number X None
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
City State/Province/Country ZIP/Postal Code
State(s) of Solicitation (select all that apply)
Check “All States” or check individual States All States
Foreign/non-US
13. Offering and Sales Amounts
Total Offering Amount $6,317,529 USD
or Indefinite
Total Amount Sold $6,317,529 USD
Total Remaining to be Sold $0 USD
or Indefinite
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
14. Investors
Select if securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, and enter the number of such non-accredited investors who already have invested in the offering.
Regardless of whether securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, enter the total number of investors who already have invested in the offering:
2
15. Sales Commissions & Finder's Fees Expenses
Provide separately the amounts of sales commissions and finders fees expenses, if any. If the amount of an expenditure is not known, provide an estimate and check the box next to the amount.
Sales Commissions $0 USD
Estimate
Finders' Fees $0 USD
Estimate
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
16. Use of Proceeds
Provide the amount of the gross proceeds of the offering that has been or is proposed to be used for payments to any of the persons required to be named as executive officers, directors or promoters in response to Item 3 above. If the amount is unknown, provide an estimate and check the box next to the amount.
$0 USD
Estimate
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Signature and Submission
Please verify the information you have entered and review the Terms of Submission below before signing and clicking SUBMIT below to file this notice.
Terms of Submission
In submitting this notice, each issuer named above is:
Notifying the SEC and/or each State in which this notice is filed of the offering of securities described and undertaking to furnish them, upon written request, in the accordance with applicable law, the information furnished to offerees.*
Irrevocably appointing each of the Secretary of the SEC and, the Securities Administrator or other legally designated officer of the State in which the issuer maintains its principal place of business and any State in which this notice is filed, as its agents for service of process, and agreeing that these persons may accept service on its behalf, of any notice, process or pleading, and further agreeing that such service may be made by registered or certified mail, in any Federal or state action, administrative proceeding, or arbitration brought against the issuer in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, if the action, proceeding or arbitration (a) arises out of any activity in connection with the offering of securities that is the subject of this notice, and (b) is founded, directly or indirectly, upon the provisions of: (i) the Securities Act of 1933, the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the Trust Indenture Act of 1939, the Investment Company Act of 1940, or the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, or any rule or regulation under any of these statutes, or (ii) the laws of the State in which the issuer maintains its principal place of business or any State in which this notice is filed.
Certifying that, if the issuer is claiming a Regulation D exemption for the offering, the issuer is not disqualified from relying on Rule 504 or Rule 506 for one of the reasons stated in Rule 504(b)(3) or Rule 506(d).
Each Issuer identified above has read this notice, knows the contents to be true, and has duly caused this notice to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned duly authorized person.
For signature, type in the signer's name or other letters or characters adopted or authorized as the signer's signature.
Issuer Signature Name of Signer Title Date
Groma CCP WMI DST /s/ Seth Priebatsch Seth Priebatsch President of the Signatory Trustee 2022-10-19
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Bbanbob, will be back shortly. AZC could copy/paste relevance from his account save any personal information.
When he did this the last time in reference to bonds he was saying changed a lot inferring distribution imminent about three years ago well I never told people I owned these five flavors of SD so I copy/pasted relevance from my Fidelity account showing zero changes then AZC did not talk about these bonds for a couple of years.
So I just hope FOR EVERYONE’S SAKE this is NOT more of the same.
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COULD THIS BE US? IF SO, PROOF WMI DST IS ALIVE AS POSITED FOR YEARS & WILL LIKELY PLAY A PIVOTAL IN POTENTIAL DISTRIBUTIONS…AGAIN PROVES THREE VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS/ACTIONS
1) WMI IS STILL ALIVE as posited when is became a DST in early March of 2012
2) Delaware Statutory Trust is Real & Likely Avenue For Future Distributions
3) Safe Harbor is REAL and ALIVE As Shown In The Following Filing
Even if this is NOT us, this filing still proves Safe Harbor and DST are real as discussed for years
Thanks to Govie on BP
Private placements - Rule 506(b)
(Deleted portions to keep minimal)
https://www.sec.gov/education/smallbusiness/exemptofferings/rule506b
Section 4(a)(2)
Rule 506(b) of Regulation D is considered a “safe harbor” under Section 4(a)(2). It provides objective standards that a company can rely on to meet the requirements of the Section 4(a)(2) exemption. Companies conducting an offering under Rule 506(b) can raise an unlimited amount of money and can sell securities to an unlimited number of accredited investors. An offering under Rule 506(b), however, is subject to the following requirements:
no general solicitation or advertising to market the securities
securities may not be sold to more than 35 non-accredited investors (all non-accredited investors, either alone or with a purchaser representative, must meet the legal standard of having sufficient knowledge and experience in financial and business matters to be capable of evaluating the merits and risks of the prospective investment)
If non-accredited investors are participating in the offering, the company conducting the offering:
Purchasers in a Rule 506(b) offering receive “restricted securities." A company is required to file a notice with the Commission on Form D within 15 days after the first sale of securities in the offering. Although the Securities Act provides a federal preemption from state registration and qualification under Rule 506(b), the states still have authority to require notice filings and collect state fees.
______________________________
Groma CCP WMI DST October 19, 2022
https://disclosurequest.com/form/groma-ccp-wmi-dst/0001879785-22-000070
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed the information in this filing and has not determined if it is accurate and complete.
The reader should not assume that the information is accurate and complete.
UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM D
Notice of Exempt Offering of Securities
OMB APPROVAL
OMB Number: 3235-0076
Estimated average burden
hours per response: 4.00
1. Issuer's Identity
CIK (Filer ID Number) Previous Names
X None
Entity Type
0001947539
Corporation
Limited Partnership
Limited Liability Company
General Partnership
Business Trust
X Other (Specify)
Delaware Statutory Trust
Name of Issuer
Groma CCP WMI DST
Jurisdiction of Incorporation/Organization
DELAWARE
Year of Incorporation/Organization
Over Five Years Ago
X Within Last Five Years (Specify Year) 2022
Yet to Be Formed
2. Principal Place of Business and Contact Information
Name of Issuer
Groma CCP WMI DST
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 NEW CHARDON STREET
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode Phone Number of Issuer
BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS 02114 617-910-0178
3. Related Persons
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Priebatsch Seth
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Bell Paul
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma Advisor, LLC n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Signatory Trustee and Asset Manager
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma NAV REIT Operating Partnership, LP n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Operating Partnership
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma NAV REIT, Inc. n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Parent of Operating Partnership
Last Name First Name Middle Name
GromaCorp, Inc. n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: Executive Officer Director X Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Sponsor
4. Industry Group
Agriculture
Banking & Financial Services
Commercial Banking
Insurance
Investing
Investment Banking
Pooled Investment Fund
Is the issuer registered as
an investment company under
the Investment Company
Act of 1940?
Yes No
Other Banking & Financial Services
Business Services
Energy
Coal Mining
Electric Utilities
Energy Conservation
Environmental Services
Oil & Gas
Other Energy
Health Care
Biotechnology
Health Insurance
Hospitals & Physicians
Pharmaceuticals
Other Health Care
Manufacturing
Real Estate
X Commercial
Construction
REITS & Finance
Residential
Other Real Estate
Retailing
Restaurants
Technology
Computers
Telecommunications
Other Technology
Travel
Airlines & Airports
Lodging & Conventions
Tourism & Travel Services
Other Travel
Other
5. Issuer Size
Revenue Range OR Aggregate Net Asset Value Range
No Revenues No Aggregate Net Asset Value
$1 - $1,000,000 $1 - $5,000,000
$1,000,001 - $5,000,000 $5,000,001 - $25,000,000
$5,000,001 - $25,000,000 $25,000,001 - $50,000,000
$25,000,001 - $100,000,000 $50,000,001 - $100,000,000
Over $100,000,000 Over $100,000,000
X Decline to Disclose Decline to Disclose
Not Applicable Not Applicable
6. Federal Exemption(s) and Exclusion(s) Claimed (select all that apply)
Rule 504(b)(1) (not (i), (ii) or (iii))
Rule 504 (b)(1)(i)
Rule 504 (b)(1)(ii)
Rule 504 (b)(1)(iii)
X Rule 506(b)
Rule 506(c)
Securities Act Section 4(a)(5)
Investment Company Act Section 3(c)
Section 3(c)(1) Section 3(c)(9)
Section 3(c)(2) Section 3(c)(10)
Section 3(c)(3) Section 3(c)(11)
Section 3(c)(4) Section 3(c)(12)
Section 3(c)(5) Section 3(c)(13)
Section 3(c)(6) Section 3(c)(14)
Section 3(c)(7)
7. Type of Filing
X New Notice Date of First Sale 2022-10-06 First Sale Yet to Occur
Amendment
8. Duration of Offering
Does the Issuer intend this offering to last more than one year?
Yes X No
9. Type(s) of Securities Offered (select all that apply)
X Equity Pooled Investment Fund Interests
Debt Tenant-in-Common Securities
Option, Warrant or Other Right to Acquire Another Security Mineral Property Securities
Security to be Acquired Upon Exercise of Option, Warrant or Other Right to Acquire Security Other (describe)
10. Business Combination Transaction
Is this offering being made in connection with a business combination transaction, such as a merger, acquisition or exchange offer?
Yes X No
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
11. Minimum Investment
Minimum investment accepted from any outside investor $0 USD
12. Sales Compensation
Recipient
Recipient CRD Number X None
(Associated) Broker or Dealer X None
(Associated) Broker or Dealer CRD Number X None
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
City State/Province/Country ZIP/Postal Code
State(s) of Solicitation (select all that apply)
Check “All States” or check individual States All States
Foreign/non-US
13. Offering and Sales Amounts
Total Offering Amount $6,317,529 USD
or Indefinite
Total Amount Sold $6,317,529 USD
Total Remaining to be Sold $0 USD
or Indefinite
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
14. Investors
Select if securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, and enter the number of such non-accredited investors who already have invested in the offering.
Regardless of whether securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, enter the total number of investors who already have invested in the offering:
2
15. Sales Commissions & Finder's Fees Expenses
Provide separately the amounts of sales commissions and finders fees expenses, if any. If the amount of an expenditure is not known, provide an estimate and check the box next to the amount.
Sales Commissions $0 USD
Estimate
Finders' Fees $0 USD
Estimate
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
16. Use of Proceeds
Provide the amount of the gross proceeds of the offering that has been or is proposed to be used for payments to any of the persons required to be named as executive officers, directors or promoters in response to Item 3 above. If the amount is unknown, provide an estimate and check the box next to the amount.
$0 USD
Estimate
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Signature and Submission
Please verify the information you have entered and review the Terms of Submission below before signing and clicking SUBMIT below to file this notice.
Terms of Submission
In submitting this notice, each issuer named above is:
Notifying the SEC and/or each State in which this notice is filed of the offering of securities described and undertaking to furnish them, upon written request, in the accordance with applicable law, the information furnished to offerees.*
Irrevocably appointing each of the Secretary of the SEC and, the Securities Administrator or other legally designated officer of the State in which the issuer maintains its principal place of business and any State in which this notice is filed, as its agents for service of process, and agreeing that these persons may accept service on its behalf, of any notice, process or pleading, and further agreeing that such service may be made by registered or certified mail, in any Federal or state action, administrative proceeding, or arbitration brought against the issuer in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, if the action, proceeding or arbitration (a) arises out of any activity in connection with the offering of securities that is the subject of this notice, and (b) is founded, directly or indirectly, upon the provisions of: (i) the Securities Act of 1933, the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the Trust Indenture Act of 1939, the Investment Company Act of 1940, or the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, or any rule or regulation under any of these statutes, or (ii) the laws of the State in which the issuer maintains its principal place of business or any State in which this notice is filed.
Certifying that, if the issuer is claiming a Regulation D exemption for the offering, the issuer is not disqualified from relying on Rule 504 or Rule 506 for one of the reasons stated in Rule 504(b)(3) or Rule 506(d).
Each Issuer identified above has read this notice, knows the contents to be true, and has duly caused this notice to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned duly authorized person.
For signature, type in the signer's name or other letters or characters adopted or authorized as the signer's signature.
Issuer Signature Name of Signer Title Date
Groma CCP WMI DST /s/ Seth Priebatsch Seth Priebatsch President of the Signatory Trustee 2022-10-19
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CANNOT really argue without making a fool of one self as the principle we discussed for years is now more than proven in one filing regardless of the FILING being for us or NOT
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Bbanbob, but, but, But, but
AZC knows more than the several multi billionaires that control this play
Now how do you do that
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Bbanbob, Ben saying for years the DST WILL BE PIVOTAL IN FUTURE DISTRIBUTIONS
But HEY it's just a KOWINKIDINK that it says WMI DST RIGHT
Even if the name somehow is another entity (but not sure how that could actually happen in Delaware system) the PRINCIPLE REMAINS and that is
1) Safe Harbor is very real
2) DST is very real to the point discussed for years
3) There is at least one WMI DST and yes it is very real and alive please do not forget this filing mentioned two very important words
***MASTER LIST***Oh yes I am LOVING my timely-signed releases more and more every single day forward!
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COULD THIS BE US? IF SO, PROOF WMI DST IS ALIVE AS POSITED FOR YEARS & WILL LIKELY PLAY A PIVOTAL IN POTENTIAL DISTRIBUTIONS…AGAIN PROVES THREE VERY IMPORTANT TOPICS/ACTIONS
1) WMI IS STILL ALIVE as posited when is became a DST in early March of 2012
2) Delaware Statutory Trust is Real & Likely Avenue For Future Distributions
3) Safe Harbor is REAL and ALIVE As Shown In The Following Filing
Even if this is NOT us, this filing still proves Safe Harbor and DST are real as discussed for years
Thanks to Govie on BP
Private placements - Rule 506(b)
(Deleted portions to keep minimal)
https://www.sec.gov/education/smallbusiness/exemptofferings/rule506b
Section 4(a)(2)
Rule 506(b) of Regulation D is considered a “safe harbor” under Section 4(a)(2). It provides objective standards that a company can rely on to meet the requirements of the Section 4(a)(2) exemption. Companies conducting an offering under Rule 506(b) can raise an unlimited amount of money and can sell securities to an unlimited number of accredited investors. An offering under Rule 506(b), however, is subject to the following requirements:
no general solicitation or advertising to market the securities
securities may not be sold to more than 35 non-accredited investors (all non-accredited investors, either alone or with a purchaser representative, must meet the legal standard of having sufficient knowledge and experience in financial and business matters to be capable of evaluating the merits and risks of the prospective investment)
If non-accredited investors are participating in the offering, the company conducting the offering:
Purchasers in a Rule 506(b) offering receive “restricted securities." A company is required to file a notice with the Commission on Form D within 15 days after the first sale of securities in the offering. Although the Securities Act provides a federal preemption from state registration and qualification under Rule 506(b), the states still have authority to require notice filings and collect state fees.
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Groma CCP WMI DST October 19, 2022
https://disclosurequest.com/form/groma-ccp-wmi-dst/0001879785-22-000070
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed the information in this filing and has not determined if it is accurate and complete.
The reader should not assume that the information is accurate and complete.
UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM D
Notice of Exempt Offering of Securities
OMB APPROVAL
OMB Number: 3235-0076
Estimated average burden
hours per response: 4.00
1. Issuer's Identity
CIK (Filer ID Number) Previous Names
X None
Entity Type
0001947539
Corporation
Limited Partnership
Limited Liability Company
General Partnership
Business Trust
X Other (Specify)
Delaware Statutory Trust
Name of Issuer
Groma CCP WMI DST
Jurisdiction of Incorporation/Organization
DELAWARE
Year of Incorporation/Organization
Over Five Years Ago
X Within Last Five Years (Specify Year) 2022
Yet to Be Formed
2. Principal Place of Business and Contact Information
Name of Issuer
Groma CCP WMI DST
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 NEW CHARDON STREET
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode Phone Number of Issuer
BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS 02114 617-910-0178
3. Related Persons
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Priebatsch Seth
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Bell Paul
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma Advisor, LLC n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Signatory Trustee and Asset Manager
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma NAV REIT Operating Partnership, LP n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Operating Partnership
Last Name First Name Middle Name
Groma NAV REIT, Inc. n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: X Executive Officer Director Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Parent of Operating Partnership
Last Name First Name Middle Name
GromaCorp, Inc. n/a
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
31 New Chardon Street
City State/Province/Country ZIP/PostalCode
Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02114
Relationship: Executive Officer Director X Promoter
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Sponsor
4. Industry Group
Agriculture
Banking & Financial Services
Commercial Banking
Insurance
Investing
Investment Banking
Pooled Investment Fund
Is the issuer registered as
an investment company under
the Investment Company
Act of 1940?
Yes No
Other Banking & Financial Services
Business Services
Energy
Coal Mining
Electric Utilities
Energy Conservation
Environmental Services
Oil & Gas
Other Energy
Health Care
Biotechnology
Health Insurance
Hospitals & Physicians
Pharmaceuticals
Other Health Care
Manufacturing
Real Estate
X Commercial
Construction
REITS & Finance
Residential
Other Real Estate
Retailing
Restaurants
Technology
Computers
Telecommunications
Other Technology
Travel
Airlines & Airports
Lodging & Conventions
Tourism & Travel Services
Other Travel
Other
5. Issuer Size
Revenue Range OR Aggregate Net Asset Value Range
No Revenues No Aggregate Net Asset Value
$1 - $1,000,000 $1 - $5,000,000
$1,000,001 - $5,000,000 $5,000,001 - $25,000,000
$5,000,001 - $25,000,000 $25,000,001 - $50,000,000
$25,000,001 - $100,000,000 $50,000,001 - $100,000,000
Over $100,000,000 Over $100,000,000
X Decline to Disclose Decline to Disclose
Not Applicable Not Applicable
6. Federal Exemption(s) and Exclusion(s) Claimed (select all that apply)
Rule 504(b)(1) (not (i), (ii) or (iii))
Rule 504 (b)(1)(i)
Rule 504 (b)(1)(ii)
Rule 504 (b)(1)(iii)
X Rule 506(b)
Rule 506(c)
Securities Act Section 4(a)(5)
Investment Company Act Section 3(c)
Section 3(c)(1) Section 3(c)(9)
Section 3(c)(2) Section 3(c)(10)
Section 3(c)(3) Section 3(c)(11)
Section 3(c)(4) Section 3(c)(12)
Section 3(c)(5) Section 3(c)(13)
Section 3(c)(6) Section 3(c)(14)
Section 3(c)(7)
7. Type of Filing
X New Notice Date of First Sale 2022-10-06 First Sale Yet to Occur
Amendment
8. Duration of Offering
Does the Issuer intend this offering to last more than one year?
Yes X No
9. Type(s) of Securities Offered (select all that apply)
X Equity Pooled Investment Fund Interests
Debt Tenant-in-Common Securities
Option, Warrant or Other Right to Acquire Another Security Mineral Property Securities
Security to be Acquired Upon Exercise of Option, Warrant or Other Right to Acquire Security Other (describe)
10. Business Combination Transaction
Is this offering being made in connection with a business combination transaction, such as a merger, acquisition or exchange offer?
Yes X No
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
11. Minimum Investment
Minimum investment accepted from any outside investor $0 USD
12. Sales Compensation
Recipient
Recipient CRD Number X None
(Associated) Broker or Dealer X None
(Associated) Broker or Dealer CRD Number X None
Street Address 1 Street Address 2
City State/Province/Country ZIP/Postal Code
State(s) of Solicitation (select all that apply)
Check “All States” or check individual States All States
Foreign/non-US
13. Offering and Sales Amounts
Total Offering Amount $6,317,529 USD
or Indefinite
Total Amount Sold $6,317,529 USD
Total Remaining to be Sold $0 USD
or Indefinite
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
14. Investors
Select if securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, and enter the number of such non-accredited investors who already have invested in the offering.
Regardless of whether securities in the offering have been or may be sold to persons who do not qualify as accredited investors, enter the total number of investors who already have invested in the offering:
2
15. Sales Commissions & Finder's Fees Expenses
Provide separately the amounts of sales commissions and finders fees expenses, if any. If the amount of an expenditure is not known, provide an estimate and check the box next to the amount.
Sales Commissions $0 USD
Estimate
Finders' Fees $0 USD
Estimate
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
16. Use of Proceeds
Provide the amount of the gross proceeds of the offering that has been or is proposed to be used for payments to any of the persons required to be named as executive officers, directors or promoters in response to Item 3 above. If the amount is unknown, provide an estimate and check the box next to the amount.
$0 USD
Estimate
Clarification of Response (if Necessary):
Signature and Submission
Please verify the information you have entered and review the Terms of Submission below before signing and clicking SUBMIT below to file this notice.
Terms of Submission
In submitting this notice, each issuer named above is:
Notifying the SEC and/or each State in which this notice is filed of the offering of securities described and undertaking to furnish them, upon written request, in the accordance with applicable law, the information furnished to offerees.*
Irrevocably appointing each of the Secretary of the SEC and, the Securities Administrator or other legally designated officer of the State in which the issuer maintains its principal place of business and any State in which this notice is filed, as its agents for service of process, and agreeing that these persons may accept service on its behalf, of any notice, process or pleading, and further agreeing that such service may be made by registered or certified mail, in any Federal or state action, administrative proceeding, or arbitration brought against the issuer in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, if the action, proceeding or arbitration (a) arises out of any activity in connection with the offering of securities that is the subject of this notice, and (b) is founded, directly or indirectly, upon the provisions of: (i) the Securities Act of 1933, the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the Trust Indenture Act of 1939, the Investment Company Act of 1940, or the Investment Advisers Act of 1940, or any rule or regulation under any of these statutes, or (ii) the laws of the State in which the issuer maintains its principal place of business or any State in which this notice is filed.
Certifying that, if the issuer is claiming a Regulation D exemption for the offering, the issuer is not disqualified from relying on Rule 504 or Rule 506 for one of the reasons stated in Rule 504(b)(3) or Rule 506(d).
Each Issuer identified above has read this notice, knows the contents to be true, and has duly caused this notice to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned duly authorized person.
For signature, type in the signer's name or other letters or characters adopted or authorized as the signer's signature.
Issuer Signature Name of Signer Title Date
Groma CCP WMI DST /s/ Seth Priebatsch Seth Priebatsch President of the Signatory Trustee 2022-10-19
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FROM BK COURT-The CLOSEST TWO POSTS WE GET FOR CONFIRMATION ON MONIES RETURNING UNTIL ACTUAL DISTRIBUTION AND/OR FILING
First Post - From WaMu BK Court as this info ties in perfectly with former Poster, CBA09 who was a Certified bank Auditor that knew EXACTLY how the process works and shared with us until ABRUPTLY disappearing:
*The Holy Grail*RETAINED ASSETS*YOUR HONOR*They Will Still Be There*
Some Investors Need To Take Note of What Was Said in The COURT TRANSCRIPT
The legal group Akin and Gump are discussing the scope of what the Examiner can examine and what he cannot examine. We also have in there the part (b) of what is to be retained, and that is because in negotiations that we had with all of the settling parties, with the equity committee last week, with the FDIC, we did talk a great deal about the concept of the retained assets.
Now, it's my position, Your Honor, that the examiner doesn't need to know much with the retained assets other than say the assets are retained and therefore the liquidating trust can go ahead and pursue them. They will still be there; they can be carried through. But I understand that the equity committee is very interested in having a neutral third party do an investigation of those retained assets.
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Second Post - NOT ONLY FROM THE WaMu BK COURT BUT FROM THE HORSE'S (Judge Walrath) MOUTH
FOR THOSE WHO SAY NOTHING COMING BACK - NOT ACCORDING TO SOME VIPs
1) Hedge Funds - The assets will still be there, they can go after them later and I understand they may want to do an evaluation
2) Judge Walrath - let me posit the reorg company being worth ten billion. Isn't this something that I MUST take into consideration to ensure some are not getting more than they should
3) Judge Walrath - speaking to Equity - what are you worried about as you will be riding the Hedge Fund's coattails
***NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHAT JUDGE WALRATH REALLY SAID CONCERNING NUMBER THREE***
YOU WILL BE RIDING THE COATTAILS OF SEVERAL MULTI-BILLIONAIRES WHO HAVE THE COMFORT OF KNOWING THE DETAILS AND YOU WILL BE JOINING THE RARIFIED REALM
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BBANBOB, did you NOT REALIZE, AZC KNOWS more than the following, especially the UWs who do this very work and KNOW where the very Large Green REALLY has been planted...HEHEHEHEHE
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AND TPS, BONDERMAN, Brown Brothers Harriman, Tepper, Savitz, The UW's(13 of the largest banks)
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Have I told you lately how much more, more and more I love my timely signed releases (by 3/2012) that continue to grow immensely every single day forward?
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No problem Ron but from the filings it is simple.
Preferred and Common Equity Interest share what is left or it would not be in the filings as such
Preferred Equity Interests = 75
Common Equity Interests = 25
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Ron, you said the following.
75/25% stopped with the Retained Earnings gaining interest in Treasury Notes.
———————-
But the (OC) Ownership Change, changed all of that to 75/25 on the Effective Date of 3/19/2012, signed by the court.
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Gary, even if nothing happens with Lehman look at it this way. Obviously, according to the Lehman filing shown by newflow, Lehman us moving forward so the same would apply to WMI in my view whether on their own or with others.
At worst, Lehman is just showing us the way.
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Gary, facts get in the way of one’s investment decisions and become selective.
newflow, very interesting dates and it does appear Lehman and WaMu have been walking hand-in-glove with each other to arrive at the same destination with a combination planned from the get-go as many have speculated for years along the way.
We should be hearing something relatively soon and even if LBHI is working on its own or with another party, it would seem at the minimum WMI will do something very similar as well.
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BBANBOB, think about it this way if WaMu is NOT involved with the following LBHI filing. That is if LBHI is doing this on their own or even with a party other than WaMu this kind of proves WMI will be doing something very, very similar and soon either on their own or with another party and/or REIT.
However, my view is (as well as other people also) and has been for years that WaMu and Lehman will end up doing something big together so only time passing and filings will show us the way forward
Excellent find newflow. This explains a whole lot and this MAY, MAY MAY be the plan moving forward. I think you nailed this by calling out the REIT that POSSIBLY, POSSIBLY WaMu (WMI) and LBHI will be involved with BUT, to say the least OBVIOUSLY LBHI is involved and will be moving forward on their own or possibly with WaMu
I believe the former WaMu estate now owned by the investors who signed timely releases possibly has more Safe Harbor monies (300 to 625B?) than LBHI but I do not know for sure.
I LOVE THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH in NUMBER 66 THAT NEWFLOW OUTLINED
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806085/000119312511339839/d267202dex22.htm
66. Issuance of New Securities. The Plan Administrator, each Debtor or Debtor Controlled-Entity is authorized to (a) form and transfer certain assets of the Debtors and/or Debtor Controlled Entities to new (or utilize existing) entities, including, without limitation, one or more separately managed partnerships, REITs or other investment vehicles, to hold certain real estate or other assets of the Debtors and/or Debtor-Controlled Entities and, (b) issue New Securities for Distribution under the Plan. In the event that the Plan Administrator issues New Securities, each holder of Allowed Claims or Equity Interests against a Debtor that contributed assets to the entity issuing New Securities shall receive the relevant New Securities as Distributions in accordance with the Plan.
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newflow, I looked for a date on that filing and could not find one. Did you see a date when you pulled this filing? Again, this is a fantastic find, and thanks for sharing. You are certainly on a huge positive roll!
Who do you think will ultimately control if WaMu is involved...LBHI or WaMu (WMI)?
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