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so I was right about ds on the 17th...
we are not dead. they were told once again to turn over documents. I would take that to mean for the people that have a chance, load up... that would include commons....I can easily see Rosens fees being paid for by JPM or easily being reduced by he judge. I hope JPM pays for all this crap..
I think they will come back with a lowball offer anywhere from .25 up to $1. they will not turn over documents....
did judge say ds is on the 17th as well as this will be finished up???
closing arguments? I say judge gives them until next court date to produce any and all documents or examiner is ordered...
the attorney speaking just said a smoking gun is not relevant. hmmmm.
I been here well over a year as well. I once held 847 pqs. $83,000 profit in 15 months I lost on that one. Had a house that a realtor said I couldnt give away. Fired him and made almost 300% profit on it(over $30,000 at that)I have been here too long to leave empty handed. Pay up crooked sobs. Trial will atleast take a year and we need that filed soon. Like this week regardless of the outcome tomorrow. Good luck everyone and hopefully Walrath is on our side. Let alone the law....The law says we win, with the corrupt govt. who knows what will happen. The facts alone say wamu was screwed, now give us justice.
also jpm is where your social security money is. Maybe that is why s.s. will be wiped out in a couple of years.
I have never put this much time in an investment and have not been paid. My latest I was told I would be lucky to give away. I fired the person that said that. Did my own work on it, and got over 300% return 8 months later, which was in the tens of thousands in profit. We are in the money.good job longs and whomever holds at settlement time!
that amount is gone in no time in legal fees. Just ask Rosen. Lol..
JPM already knows the true value of Wamu, so it isnt premature. JPM should also know RICO will be sought if they continue to play their games. JPM should only be alowed one more offer, maybe two. Offer not up to par, we go to trial. $8 would be the minimum starting offer. And I am slmst certain commons will get paid. Why else would Willingham throw more of his money into a lawyer on his own? At most on his wamuq stock, he is out $700,000. That is if he bought post-seizure at .70 a share. Which I am sure he did not do. I feel he might be out about $200,000. Just extra legal fees would outweigh his initial investment. We are good....Any wrong doing proven by JPM/FDIC we are good.
dimon, killinger and others, ots have stated wamu was worth billions more. that is damages in itself many times over the true value of wamu. fdic wont sign off on por because they know they goofed. rosen has not provided any financials yet for the por. why do you think that might be...Why do you think they are adamant about no shareholder meeting and no examiner. because they are caught. a&m is in trouble as well. all of them are caught. Including you for your bashing trying to force people to sell. Somebody will be contacting you shortly. Thanks and have a great day. Keep up the good work that has yet to be correct...
cheers
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Floyd Schneider: a paid stock message board basher unmasked
Posted on 16 April 2008 by Judd Bagley
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Because Gary Weiss was found to be behind the first real example of multi-ID message board bashing to be publicly proved, and because it was apparent from writing and posting styles that one person was making a large percentage of all bashing contributions to the Yahoo boards in particular, we concluded that Gary was generally responsible for most all of it.Well, as we’ve gone on to learn, thanks to more advanced techniques and a few golden tips, we were missing much of the full picture.
The truth is, lately Gary Weiss seems to be playing a decreasingly significant role on the various message boards where the likes of lamborghini751, cupandsaucerwithsugar, state_police_retiree, and bobobaloney once roamed.
And in many places where we long suspected Gary, we’ve instead come to discover Floyd D. Schneider, of Newton, NJ.
Gary: we’re sorry for accusing you of something you didn’t commit…as much as we suspected, anyway.
Floyd: we wish to express our deep disappointment in your decision to make a living out of lying.
Want proof?
Exploiting Yahoo’s Dissembler Sorting Algorithm bug (which we were sworn never, ever to reveal, so please stop asking) we determined that the following seven Yahoo messageboard usernames were tied to the same individual: strethoechasity, returnofstockdung, baloneymarch, zorro20934, china39846, charlesp0nzi, and floydtheoneandonly
Using Google, we found several legal filings, including this one, which make it clear that:
…“floydtheoneandonly,” “charlesp0nzi,” “thetruthseekercom,” are pseudonyms used by Floyd Schneider.”
It seems Schneider has been sued multiple times for making defamatory statements about companies in anonymous message board settings, such as Yahoo and Silicon Investor, and it’s been shown to our satisfaction that he did so for compensation and in coordination with hedge funds shorting the stock (or worse).
In other words, Floyd Schneider is the embodiment of the mythical “paid basher” you’ll find he spends an inordinate amount of time denying exists. In fact, he had been an associate of the convicted naked short seller Anthony Elgindy who, in one of the most famous posts on his siliconinvestor.com website, outted Schneider as a paid stock basher, severing their prior relationship at the same time.
Think about it…someone Elgindy (possibly reading this from his prison cell) considered excessively mercenary. Wow.
A more detailed analysis of Schneider’s posting patterns will soon follow, but here’s a quick summary of the companies he has most ferociously attacked in recent years:
?Xybernaut
?Matrixx Initiatives
?Overstock.com
?Novastar Financial
?Escala Group
?Cenuco
?Hythiam
?Lucent Technologies
?iMERGENT
What do each of these companies have in common? They’re all targets of the illegal market manipulation technique known as strategic failure to deliver, as manifest by their presence on the so-called Reg SHO Securities Threshold List, indicating chronic failed trades of a company’s stock.
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Hoodlatch says:
July 20, 2008 at 11:47 am
I admire you for your diligence. These crooks, and I do mean crooks should be brought to justice with the full extent of the law. The problem though is that the Government agencies that should be patroling these criminals are asleep at the wheel, just as they have allowed the home loan problems to mount. There are several Small and micro cap companies that never stand a chance against these preditory naked short, hedge funds. And there are many quality companies with very important products that can assist mankind that will be squashed because of the practices of these criminals. Keep up the great work, and lets take our investments back.
God Bless
chachiksin says:
October 4, 2008 at 11:46 am
he US House of Representatives has voted by 263-171 in favour of a $700bn (?380bn) plan to rescue the US financial sector.More..
remineckbrad says:
October 6, 2008 at 1:25 pm
I’ve been watching the reports over the past, and the US (economically speaking) is completely tanking. But why does the value of the US dollar always rise?
I thought that when the Fed printed more money, that would devalue the US dollar, causing it to drop.
The only way that I can comprehend of is that perhaps other countries are devaluing their own currency so as not to kill their exports to the USA? (I got the that listening to a national debate on Canadian tv)
Any opinions?
remineckbrad says:
October 6, 2008 at 6:02 pm
I’ve been watching the groanings over the past, and the US economy is fully tanking. But why can the value of the US dollar continually rise?
I (or at least my understanding ) is that when the Fed printed more money, that would devalue the US dollar, causing it to crash and burn.
The only circumstance that I can think of of is that possibly other countries are devaluing their own currency so as not to kill their exports to the USA? (I got the idea listening to a national debate on Canadian tv)
Any opinions?
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mordi is completely unaware of the law. If it is proven that wamu was solvent, no matter what, commons get paid. Preferreds do not have to be paid in full for commons to get a dime. If wamu was worth even as low as say $5 billion that would get commons money.DAMAGES add more value. Let alone who do you think will pay all the legal fees when it is proven Wamu is solvent. The former ec lawyers already said tens of billions for the estate. That figure was gathered without including any damages. With damages, that figure could easily go to over $100 billion. All it takes is some simple math, the thiefs stating there was more value in wamu, and just alittle common sense. Some people just dont get it. Let alone a top notch lawyer for the ec now that only gets paid for results. I think it would be safe to say this is his only case right now... I guess people will start saying he is in JPM pocket to help JPM out eventually. I wonder how many lawyers can pay their bills if they only get paid if they win. Obviously he knows there is tons of value in wamu. WHy would Wamu lawyers try so hard to get examiner and shareholder meeting cancelled. They want more money, or they dont want to get caught. It is odd how they are fighting when Jamie, the FDIC, OTS and Killinger already stated wamu was worth billions. All should be brought to justice even if they wound up offering $24 a share. There is no way JPM and FDIC can just pay wamu the true value anymore. Go for everything....People that think commons wont get anything arent that bright.. Common sense says completely different...
hey Hans. hows this looking.. please pm your email. thanks
fish email dannoninvestmentgroup@yahoo.com
Go Susman and ec. Hopefully this is over real soon...
also it wouldnt matter anyway. so what if wamu had only one bidder. they still didnt have to sell. but we all know wamu had more than one bidder. and if there actually was 1 bidder, wamu is worth billions more. thats like someone saying they bid $15,000 for your house/sports car, when it is worth alot more, and they expect to take it from you when there is no way you would sell for that bs offer. I guess Windfall will sell his Ferraris for $500 bucks....That wouldnt even pay for a doorknob....
keep in mind that lawyers check conflicts in their records. takes 5 minutes. If there is a conflict, if their client says there isnt a problem, then it is ok. If the lawyer represents with a conflict of interest, that can lead to malpractice against them. Rosen defintely needs to have malpractice against him for neglecting his fidicuary duty. the good thing is in legal malpractice, there is no cap unlike medical malpractice. Played right against Rosen, it could end the firm that he works for. As far as legal malpractice, there happens to be a top rated law firm just like some of the lawyers involved in this case....Good luck Rosen, hopefully you read this and have a second thought.....
Dont mess with Texas!!!!!!Go Susman and the chairman of the Ec who holds, what was it....Must be some money in them there commons.
and share holders of record of march 3 which was before the selloff.....
because of the current bod for wamu....
couldnt come at a better time..I guess.
Rico easier now...soloman will solidify it. Jpm in doo doo. $13 billion fdic lawsuit should be ours now. When was my prediction, May I think. We should be paid by then and Dimon gone....
Is sheila under oath? Solomans evaluation will make them all look stupid. Our fine government at work. Lying that is...$3 billion in the hole is not a reason to seize an institution worth 100 times that value. If that is the case, we should seize the government. This hearing is not the final say with Walraths decision. What will they say when Wamu is rewarded billions more.. Lies after lies.
and why the sob allowed a $50 million dollar stadium to be sold for less than $1 million, let alone to a foreign country. Yes, this guy is worthless, and Michigan has one of the worst economies in the U.S., foreclosures galore...failing business everywhere...all this f cares about is a paycheck from JPM...
if Bair is out who thinks Jamie could replace her? He would then seize banks like crazy until there is less than a handful left.
worth another look. weeeeeee.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36475513#36475513
jamie dimon says different. jamie says jpm made FAR MORE PROFIT OFF WAMU THAN WHAT HE PAID FOR IT. that there can be the beginning of rico, which is 3xs value. so if jpm made 10 billion off of wamu, multiply that times 3. banco santander supposed offer of $8 a share with an 80% stake would be almost the same crappy offer that jpm offered of $8 with a 100% stake. so banco stanko thought we were worth $10 a share as a company.
wasting my time replying to this. Jamie Dimon said he has made FAR more profit off of wamu than what he paid for it. And that isnt just 100% profit. Try more like 2000%. Case closed. where can you get over $200 million in stock for $50 million. Noone can do that. Unless they are a crook. Crooks get caught. Nobody can buy stock for less than what it is worth. In fact over 90% of the time, people pay more than what it is worth. mm control price of stock, Dimon doesnt. I guess since Jamie got Visa stock for 20% of its value, all of visa should have tanked that day. Jamie makes me sick. 50 years in prison and a $125 billion dollar fine would be a start..
from all my court hearing bs, over 20 hearings in 7 years and hundreds of thousands of dollars, I am sure they are entitled to discovery, and us as well. No biggie. they know what we have on them. But we have everything and they have absolutely nothing. I hope ec brings up Dimons statement about him making far more than what he paid for wamu and so forth. Every responsible party needs to have anything that can be brought up against them. Criminal or civil.
can we as shareholders file for malpractice on Rosen? If we cant, who can. Whoever can, they need to do so. We should dispute any and all fees they charge. They are not doing their fidicuary duty, lying in court, and so forth. We need to take the steps nw in order to get this done.. any suggestions from anybody? Thanks...
I know they were slow. The thing is that I have yet to understand is why are they trying to get a settlement when we should go for the gusto. We already have enough evidence. Hopefully the sj was delayed to allow the new firm to take over. There should definitely be no more delays on that issue. Dimons words should be enough to go for fc along with the emails included. I just dont see how this clown can think he is above the law. I still think Dimon is gone in June. Hopefully we are made whole by then. The guy that had $88 billion the other day made like $7 million in 5 hours. Just the interest should destroy JPM. I do not see how the bod has not ousted him yet. Or maybe they did by giving him up to sometime this year to step down. Funny how in Sept or so last year, he said he was leaving but had to pick someone to takeover. Now he said the same thing and he now has several successors. June is the key month I pick. Afterall, another big hearing this month and one in May I would assume. Everyone should know Jpm wont get to $60 this year as was predicted. When this is settled I figure to see them around $12. They could go back to normal in 6 months if they arent ruined because of this. I personally had a company stock that had upper management arrested for fraud. Plummeted to $1. They sold out and were up to $6 in 6 months or so. The thing is, Is Jpm that smart to be able to do the same thing. We all know they are caught...Pay up...Go wamu..
True, I also think by law she would have to allowed a firm to evaluate wamus true assets and liabilities. Not to mention JPM said they made more off Wamu than what they paid for it. Its funny also because they are still making profit because of Wamu over 18 months later. The scumbag said he could have got wamu for $1.. LOL..
I object to Venable being paid other than what reasonable amount of time it took them to retain Soloman. Whats that, about 4 hours. I really cant think of anything else they did. On this, I side with Weil. You will thank me later. I also deny Weil being paid anything in which they lied about. Which is most since they have represented...I say throw $10,000 at them and let them fight for it. That is all they deserve. Jpm and Fdic will pick up the tab eventually....I hate crooks. I am about to have a malpractice lawsuit against an attorney where David West lives, which hapens to be the biggest firm between Austin and Dallas. They all deserve to pay for their unethical practices and not upholding their fiduciary duty. In fact I think after this is all said and done I will set up a charity for people that need money to fight their former lawyers. GO WAMU. Spank that corruption.....
perhaps not, but the assets and cash alone reaped these benefits for jpm. let alone the brand new bank they bulldozed. with the liquidation of wamus assets, cash, (let alone $250 million plus of visa stock for $50 million) Jpm was in financial distraught. and it should be easy to assume wamus debts were no where near jpm considering with wamu liquidated, there would still be enough money to pay all wamu debts as well as all shareholder. Commons now would get at minimum $2 a share just by going by jpms statements....I am sure jpm is lowballing it as well. no way jpm gained these profits without wamu, let alone tarp money. fdic may be catching on now...
troubled asset relief program is another word for needy banks. not all received tarp money. jpm and wells fargo accepting the most. $25 billion each. wikipedia also states that " Ideally, if the financial institutions benefit from government assistance and recover their former strength, the government will also be able to profit from their recovery." hmmm didnt fdic just give up theirs from jpm considering they will not sign the por
keep in mind that jpm received tarp. welfare for banks. Diamonds statement makes sense, whether the numbers are off or not. wamu could easily count for 100% of jpms profits last year, as well as this years. and next year as well...few banks needing tarp were profitable. if any that were making a profit even received tarp. banks that were on the way out (bankrupt) received tarp...therfore wamu is responsible for at minimum 50% of jpm profit....
killeen myself. This whole thing was in Texas, it might have been already over. slap the sj on em walrath....
let alone saying debtors insolvent. when we know for a fact that jpm has said that we were not...azzzzzzzzzs. need to object to their unfounded and unwarranted legal fees. there was one bill for something like candy for under $5. go wamu...
read my previous post. simple terms for skeptics. go wamu.
bondholders- 3 choices to get paid, if they even do get paid...
1. Tell who owns, when bought, how many owned and how much they paid for
2.Or take it up with fdic and jpm
3.Or dont disclose, push for discovery to get paid or get no money
bondholder lawyer- My major shareholder paid 100 cents on the dollar. (could that be jpm because they knew they would get their money back.)
4. Also the bondholders are the only ones that wanted to get paid and start a new company with them being the only ones that would own it.
5. that would be a pain in the __ if Bonderman was the major bondholder.
The judge basically already knows wamu was done wrong. The bondholders that want all the money, now have to confess basically or push for discovery to let the cat out of the bag, which will find the guilty parties. Which does nothing but help us.....