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I wish a athlete rep was here??
IMO: he was paid to make atlesst one or 2 public statements about mp and then another 1 o2 appearances for brand exposure....it could be just like the mp restaurant sticker.....it helps with him actually making an appearance for the brand..
Question is how can mp maximize their exposure with him????
Which I actually think they already did! They hire him for minimal money as a supplement sponsor, but they also (at no cost) get exposed for apparel.
I think this is good....mp becoming more mainstream..rather than niche marketed!
Uh....they simply ask a group which has a large stake and are professional flippers to do it for them..... NOT that hard
Olden help me out....just trying to learn???
So are you strictly watching the operations? Especially with the reorganized books?
I know it's more complicated than that, as I would expect explanation.....but is that where you see the line???
I came here to learn something and share what I know with others for a benefit for all....what has happened??
I hoped to learn how to Apply my experience with what the day to day leanings made available....well when I ask for numbers....I get almost no response....but when numbers can be provided to disfavor a stock....so it seems almost everybody has been here before.
So.....
Mp states "pr's"
You did dd and know if real company or not?
message board has bla,bla,,including my own,??
Only $25k to $50 moving per day....yet pps moving 10% a day.
Reality
How greedy are we....well if we are as greedy as mslp was when they started thus....well it willbe our fault.
Like I said mslp long.
I have 1.5 million shares I don't want that I will sell before .0195.....only because you made me....
Im holding my .021s!
I'm new at trading, but think you could hve made your point with less words:
I'm really looking forward to your reply:
Money management
News us to sell (volume? Can be used to buy or sell shares?)
Manipulation?(how to read it?)
Anything can happen?
Follow my post......whats your opinion on my stock?
I average weekly????
Well for all those waiting for a new uptrend, you can buy mine at .019......I got 1.5 million more shares than I wanted.....I just couldn't stop buying under .02....and will keep buying if continues to drop....and yes I'll be selling all my extras on the way up....only ever wanted to hold 500k for the next year....
On our way
Retail long
Great post....except you could have changed "crap PRs" to "no PRs"
Time is coming and time will tell
Guida looked like he was given shares to run around for 5 rounds and get MP as much exposure as possible....whether it was good or bad.
Gosh that was pathetic....very similar to our current PPS I might say....dance around sideways for awhile....just when you thought he might fight....it got worse...
Get the "immortal" Brown on the team....win, lose, or draw....that guy always has great fights!
Remember in one of their PRs that they specifically said they think this is a great long term investment for shareholders....they didn't say flippers....
Here's your long term invitation....cheap
EDIT:MP Apparel selling, sports bras, fight shorts, rash guards, and more...
I don't follow every detail as to what is available....but this is the first time I heard of these products being available??
Anybody??
https://www.musclepharm.com/apparel/hats
Please view link prior to reply...I never knew they sold fight shorts, rash guards, womens capri, womens bras???
A couple people made a few good points earlier....
1. just wanted to see who hops on this?
2. lets' change the topic of thread.
and a 3rd from a few days ago....MP is making us go crazy (thought that was a good and "funny" one).
Do you understand why the sharestructure? MP diluted. MP paid with warrants. Judge does NOT see Market Cap that we do. Judge decides value based on competitors, industry peers, and branding "yes branding", etc....
The value of company is far greater than current Market Cap!
This is for those who need simple english! It's NOT that hard to understand...
what you think they just walk in to court and say look at our balance sheet....we can't pay anybody???? but if you let us BK....we are good to go....
BK will NOT happen,,,,but if it does...I'm fine with it
Has MP alway been selling apparel via GNC?
Never noticed this before on the GNC website...is this new?
Your smartening up....that's why I posted "hook, line, and sinker!!"
Interesting isn't it....interesting to see who had actually done DD if any on the Berlin Exchange....I posted the first propoganda I could find on one search regarding this topic....and BAM!!!
Hmmmm???
But I too have been able to get more shares!!!
Seriously?? First of all...it would cost them more to get rid of the little "hard assets" you claim such as gym equipment than the money they would generate with the auction....The brand itself is the value!
And I do have a business, and part of the reason I jumped in this stock after the chance of finding it is because I do beleive they were on the brink of BK in the past.......
And I do know about business BK as I have personally experienced this as I had stated in a past post.....
My only point was to dispell any speculation that BK will happen,,,but some I guess love to take the hoook. line, and sinker!
I guess I played into the day-traders hands on this one....go day-trader go go go goooooo!
Not true? How about not going to happen!...but if it did we would get paid....and paid last, but the money would allow for all warrants to get exercised and still pay the shareholders....so how is this not true??
What is wrong with funding via new investors that don't have the history that we have here of findin the negative in everything? Wht if they can support the pps at .04 or more allowing all warrants to be exercised? Why is that a problem....
People do u understand this? If they bk we get paid!!!! And that's our biggest worry!!
It's like this:
Barber ship spent a lot on advertising...biz picks up, but too late. He bk's. Now new owner comes in and takes profits for advertising....not....in bk court this advertising debt would have to be settled.....at a cheaper rate
.....but it would have to have compensation for said advertising?????
The brand alone is more valuable than pps!! Pps is a reflectin of growth into being less 3rd party dependent!
Borrowing money??
Like I said "even I could sell mp for 50 mill"???
I look at it as while I'm waiting .....I'm buying more cheaper.....then the day will arrive when I ask...why didn't I buy more???
We will find out if tweeting = 1million?
If they pump Berlin? And berlin see mp everywhere...and I mean everywhere with a change of 16 mill loss to profit????? Hmmmmm????
Simply put! I could sell mp for 50 million if the have sales of 75 million on the year! That's is 2.5 times current pps......
It would be like finding an oil field in my backyard....
What do agree with?? Or think?? I'm just throwing out optimistic adventagous reasoning,,...but I do believe without a doubt the companies value far exceeds its maket cap....therefore if bk happens we all get paid, 2nd if they don't bk then our shares are worth more untrue value then we are paying today!
Warrants we can't control create extra volatility...and must be exercised ( trying to learn more)
With the o/s ....we have no choice to awknoledge the volatiltiy....yet it shouldn't be construed as a true value..just a fact that it exist.
Deep, if you are funny it's funny, but u do realize that if you search google "musclepharm" then search within 24 hour news (somebody getting last minute news across the world)...there is mostly ihub links???? Don't think this is the most recent news we want to send to Berlin????why you hunk badgers exist??? It spreads life fire in a Santa Ana condition....positive cm be the same though....
To agree with hamham....that's not what I'm getting at...they would be obligated to sell company if they bk for all assets....and in this case branding revenue is so so so soooooo relevant!
They can not bk company without valuing this asset. Take the avg cost of advertising of their 3 top competitors and then take revenue less operations, multiplied by 3 years...
He'll I might even celebrate a bk.....it's only paper...with a pps of ZERO....gues what no paper loss.....guess I get paid on share value....brand value!!!!!as they sell their best and most valuable asset "the brand 'MP'"!!
I'll take .045!!!!!
It's a brand ......it's everywhere!!!!wake up people!!!!!
I know...I have biz experience, but not public traded level...I feel dislectic...but I do think this is a purpose full use of language to leave openings to changes...
I know there are atlesst a warrant/book reador here or2??? But they aren't talking either??
Is this just shortens covering-after hedging their investment...and this is their back up plan of they can't get the financing they wan??? I wouldn't blame a warrant holder for hedging his bet with a short...wish I could.
They way I see it as similar to a/s increase before....back up plan to short term cheap paper financing!
They would rather dilute and buyback than get institutional investors a a crappy rate....either way with all the due PRs ......it's gonna gooooo!!!
I got no problem with dilute for 3 months and them repurchase and retire more than originally diluted if this ment better finance???? Cash flow positive???? If they are between checks and need 250k to pay a manufacturer so they can make 50k profit I am more than willing to play........ Just always buy and retire more than dropped by the end of the quater!!
But did you notice it shows nothing but a paper debt of 16 million.....how would it look to them in q2????cash flow positive with no paper debt???what happens to pps??warrants exercised because of pps and volume????then what??????
It would also allow for more buying back....no shorting!...
I pay more attention,personally, to the word "funding".
Everything can be pushed either way , but again I wil always take the realistic optimistic side....if anyone thinks they are going to bk the brand....you better explain how this is good for them...cause they can't bk the brand....it is valuable in itself in the mark of (based on q1-16 mill rev *4) 64 million in rev...think about that value to their main competitors...it is without doubt more valuable than the pps. This IMO is similar to the authorized shares....a plan that if need be will be utilized....and it won't be to bk!
It might give insight into their issues though....don't have cash to pay manufacturer to make more product as they are still waiting for receivables from distributor/buyer...that's why I say warrants will be only issue after they are cash flow positive....
Sheeeettss we might all wake up one morning and the pps is .2 and all we have to do is not oversell during the day......LOL...just had to throw that in!
Dakota, you know me better than that. I am optimistic, but not naive...I would prefer to think optimistically before the thueths ate exposed and I am well aware things may be different than I think...
I also don't consider this propaganda (yes Dakota I agree propaganda) a truth, it is just that propaganda (yet interesting I may say).....just wondering if anybody actually did something as simple as I; google search Berlin exchange (top five ranking)....rather than just begin to speculate the reasoning with no basis..
And I feel this was the same reaction to NSF....
And to be a devils advocate all the points you made could be favored the other way...
Interesting nobody has taken a step to do the atlesst a little research.....I'm kinda astonished the little I did on this subject seems like more than anybody else did...
Anybody research this?
http://artfieldinvestmentsrdinc.info/blog/why-list-on-the-berlin-exchange/
See this is what I look for: sources. Now if you understand the source you will understand mp direction.
There are interesting ppints in this article.
It's like when NSF came out; people first looking to NSF, rather why NSF .
Not I'm negative so I wil only see negative side.... Just follow the books and the source of the news
Agreed with the exception of BoD....I personally am not expecting any changes in names, just paper titles/responsobilities
Depending on the day, some MM's walk faster than others...LOL...that crap pisses me off too....
I've called and complained about similar issues...and the same old excuse comes up..."well because this is a OTC stock, a MM must actually walk over to the board and mark it, therefore some orders don't go through very fast" ..I even had a guy tell me once it was because my order of 100k shares was soooo bigg is why it took so long" abosolutle BS....since when was a 100kshares a large order?
so I think Scott Trade must have the FAT guy today....he's slow, plus he might have dropped a doughnut on his lap, then his coffee, then you order was dirty, so he had to clean before submitting....
Then Bam he arrives....an your order is filled! WOW! Trading is amazing!!
Yup...I've been saying similar things...AON orders hidden...and left for 60 days...this is calculated.
Finish green!
Both? Maybe? Hence I said all should know how to manage money and have planned sell pPs...this will help everybody.....but hen again some are more greedy than others in thei own way? Me included....
I'm holding everything except 20% priority on my .015 buys of 350k shares I didnt want, but they are cheap....more to come....if pps doesn't go....
Dakota, positivity? 2 post to the point with no devils advocate...awesome.
That's why u posted it???but was hoping to get n answe without providing link....as it is (dare I say) easy for anybody to post a job listing??
But with the connection of thr connection Edison company whom already makes ingredients and is cpmg accredited....it makes you wonder.
In a side note: Memphis is the FedEx super hub....best rates nationally and internationally.
Only info I have to date in brazil is 2nd best retail seller in Sao pauLo according to a few gym owners.... Considered good because price is very high....definitely not producing in Brasil currently and paying major taxes to import....but this is being passed to consumer (maybe not a cost effective as it could become?) and consumers are buying more and and more "considered launching stage" translation...and 2nd most popular....hope to have more concrete info in the near future
Renn, I definitely don't have it figured out , but that p and d "may?" be more than just dropping shares??
Essentially many assumed the dump was when pps was .006, back in jan? Now they acknoledge dump in march at .0158 or more ( also equal to a warrant price)....and they buy back at .0158 or more....and they retire shares....
Now I can ask a million questions like we have hear.....
But that is what u see!
So how many more did they buy vs dump? And many did they retire that would increase said value? It wasn't just dump "I know that much for sure!"
Great replies to great post, thanks...all replies prior to this post were great and represented I think every bodies opinion here; some may have more weight on one aspect vs the other, but a true representation of shareholder sentiment!
Great post cuse and way to bring that out of our board:
Deep space: as always simple with flair and feelings and controlled optimism
Dakato: direct post! I agree the PR new board ; announce the board! It shouldn't be a timed pr! It should be communication of a major aspect of company to be instituted! Point blank!
Rennsis:we all have this feeling...why? Why the act???
Avocet: If anything I am that guy too....a little greedy and it just makes it easier for flippers to flip (making the share price "appear to moving when it isn't)! With all us holding this is the easiest low volume manipulate ever....
Sorry or the recap...thought it might entice others to review cuse11 prior post and replies.....much appreciated!!
I really like this post. We are all here for our own reasons, some because a friend, some because we use product, some insider info, etc... I am here by chance, and this is my first investment of this type.
At this date and time this stock is just as good and bad as any stock out there. Just don't like to see the "trader" who plays, rather than invest--and then wipe out the inexperienced investor who thinks he has made a good decision.
Manipulation as and always be part of the game...manage your money and you will be rewarded. Just as much as you plan your buys, you must plan your sells.
The hardest fact for everybody here to face is that because of the massive dilution....we all have too many shares....imagine if the people on this board alone hold till.06 and the volume is 10 million a day???? It would still take over a month for us to sell our shares....
If you ate here now....you should have an punt in mind you want to hold for atlesst 1 year! The rest should be flipped when the volume comes in....this can potentially lead tootle profits (wouldnt we all like to say we sold everything at .033. Or more??? And buying back at .015?
And if you got why it takes you can sit on it for 3 years???
Just don't get caught up in....anything except numbers? With them being cash flow positive we will now be able to value current pps (insider opinion) base on the value of endorsements, warrants, etc....simply because these "agreements" will finally have value --as mslp can actually prove they have the funds to pay them. If and when mp is cash flow positive; the game will change dramatically!
Anybody ever hear the quote" it's easier to maintain an A than turn an F into an A"? If you get 50% on a test? How many more do you need to get 100% to get your average to 90%?
Do the math, it wil surprise many....now let's say mp just did that....an F to an A....now on top of that being hard do you realize how much strength is in this position? How many more Fs they would have to get before ther are even below 75% again??? Well this is what how things change when mp is cash flow positive....all negatives are not just better,,,they become balanced to exponential positives.
Retail long
I really like this post. We are all here for our own reasons, some because a friend, some because we use product, some insider info, etc... I am here by chance, and this is my first investment of this type.
At this date and time this stock is just as good and bad as any stock out there. Just don't like to see the "trader" who plays, rather than invest--and then wipe out the inexperienced investor who thinks he has made a good decision.
Manipulation as and always be part of the game...manage your money and you will be rewarded. Just as much as you plan your buys, you must plan your sells.
The hardest fact for everybody here to face is that because of the massive dilution....we all have too many shares....imagine if the people on this board alone hold till.06 and the volume is 10 million a day???? It would still take over a month for us to sell our shares....
If you ate here now....you should have an punt in mind you want to hold for atlesst 1 year! The rest should be flipped when the volume comes in....this can potentially lead tootle profits (wouldnt we all like to say we sold everything at .033. Or more??? And buying back at .015?
And if you got why it takes you can sit on it for 3 years???
Just don't get caught up in....anything except numbers? With them being cash flow positive we will now be able to value current pps (insider opinion) base on the value of endorsements, warrants, etc....simply because these "agreements" will finally have value --as mslp can actually prove they have the funds to pay them. If and when mp is cash flow positive; the game will change dramatically!
Anybody ever hear the quote" it's easier to maintain an A than turn an F into an A"? If you get 50% on a test? How many more do you need to get 100% to get your average to 90%?
Do the math, it wil surprise many....now let's say mp just did that....an F to an A....now on top of that being hard do you realize how much strength is in this position? How many more Fs they would have to get before ther are even below 75% again??? Well this is what how things change when mp is cash flow positive....all negatives are not just better,,,they become balanced to exponential positives.
Retail long
What is VFIN doing on the ask Again?
It is one the biggest hubs for FedEx....Int'l shipping??
Dakota, you know what I mean....nothing new that would lead us to believe they are going to BK or something of the sort....just to much nothing....for nothing to be happening