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Coating to lower temperature "to the touch" on a piece of machinery is quite different from controlling space temperature.
Spray a roof with same product, not going to get same "insulating" qualities. First of all, you have space between shingles not sealed. Heat escapes. Problem is if there is "some" insulating effect it cannot be consistent enough to "rate". Depends upon roofing materials, spacing, installation etc. Therein lies the problem.
Cannot see any national or regional builder "committing" to project, since no consistent factual representations can be made to them by company, giving them "measurable insulating results", which in turn means they cannot warrant to home-owner of end user.
Therefore, why would a builder invest in product that gives them no competitive edge? (cannot represent results).
The Product might have some valuable qualities in other applications, but "volume" sales might be an issue with this question lingering.
If the company cannot scientifically and empirically confirm its product representations, it will have to continue to "dance" with prospective buyers, but never take them home. And, investors will always be given "teaser" prosective deals on the horizon...with no mega deals ever closed (in this area).
Warranty suits can spell death to a company, especially MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR ones.
I would suspect the following has never been adequately addressed regarding quantifying "insulating qualities" for "space":
http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/insulating-paint-merchants-dupe-gullible-homeowners
Thanks...helps...but now have to translate that into "building codes" requirements...seems to be a problem.
This will be a habitual decliner unless and until they announce a multi-million $ contract with down payment made in cash.
So far, they have proven they are best at "disappointing" rumors and expectations.
There might be a fundamental reason they can not land the "big" one.
It might lie in the fact they have not or cannot translate their "insulating" qualities of product into the industry standard "R-(number)" Without that NO MUNICIPALITY will accept their product as an "Insulation Product" for building code purposes.
Which means NO MAJOR builder will order it as a substitute for standard insulation products.
Which begs the question...can it really do what they say it can do.
No one listens to someone who got ripped off for a $150 product order which did not insulate. Someone would listen to a $150M law suit. When your product doesnt do what it is supposed to do, better to "almost" land the big one...but dont hook it. Consequences would be dire if you are found out. Smaller orders, no one will ever listen to a home-owner complaining.
The product might be great for other purposes...have my doubt on the insulation qualities. Give me the "R" rating and I am a believer, until then...very suspicious.
waiting til brakes .01
like .007, has a more international, intriguing ring to it.
Sometimes better to say NOTHING...than to embarrass oneself!
And they even added the "cents" in press release to make look like bigger number...try to fool investor? $18,000.00...should have added three OOO after decimal ...correct by deceiving.
makes you wonder...did it cost more than $18K to ship it to india?
Where is the beef?
more like praying that AAPL becomes a Suitor! Looking for a "buy-out"...settle for a customer...
DSNY..."Clipstream G2" platform... VEVO a prime candidate to deliver to all devices without re-coding and lower bandwidth?
Vevo (stylized as VEVO) is a music video website. It is a joint venture among Sony Music Entertainment, Universal Music Group, and Abu Dhabi Media[3] with EMI licensing its content to the group without taking an ownership stake.[4] The service was launched officially on December 8, 2009.[5] The videos on Vevo are syndicated across the web,[6] with Google and Vevo sharing the advertising revenue.[7]
Vevo offers music videos from three of the "big four" major record labels: Universal Music Group, Sony Music Entertainment, and EMI.[8] Warner Music Group was initially reported to be considering hosting its content on Vevo,[9] but subsequently formed a rival alliance with MTV Networks.[10] There are more than 50,000 videos available on Vevo.[11]
Real question is what it can fetch on a friendly "take-over"...
Has to be worth "real" dollars to any company spending oodles on transcodeing, content security (anti-piracy), or even free flow of content (even with flash) to all devices....
I see the many young horny young boys at the front door with corsages wanting to take the young beauty to the prom and then marry her! (where is Meatloaf when you need him?)
Anyone suggest suitors?
not as big as you think!...
Read on: http://www.pinnacledigest.com/blog/mountaineer78/destiny-media-technologies
As shareholder with 1.1m shares at .04...a little miffed at possibility that Iceman selling or sold his 8million on the way down...
Called him to complain...he said "absolutely not" ...and to prove it to anyone who challenges his statement said:
"Anyone can call me and I will give them my attorney's number and you give me your attorney's number and I will post $50k and you post $5K. Enter into agreement. If I sold ONE SHARE of my 8Million, you get to keep my $50k. I will send statement of holding to your attorney to prove it. It will show 8M shares...I get to keep your $5K....either put up or shut up malicious lies. I am 100% behind INTK and business plan. Some investors aren't and are selling. I can't help that."
Anyone want to post $5K?...love to see what happens... as they say in the lottery "Hey, you never know"....LOL.
Anyone have $5k I can borrow (non-recourse ...of course) to test it out?...more lol....
and how is that not INSIDE TRADING...info right before IPO only known to insiders, and they dumped twice as much....based on info.
remember....big guys still follow the rule...there can be no rally without IBM in the green. it is still their bellwether...
IBM down big today
good quote....send it to Obama...
Class Action filing...as they should!
ZUCKERMAN AND COMPANY knew "numbers" were bad for the company THE DAY BEFORE they increased....they increased shares to get rid of their "crap" on unsuspecting public.
CLEARLY INSIDER TRADING....NEED NICE CLASS ACTION AGAINST "INSIDERS" AT FB. DISGORGE PROFITS!
SEC should make new rule for IPO's. All shares sold on an IPO must be TREASURY SHARES, with proceeds of sale going back to the company.
"Insider" shares to be "Restricted for 6 months" like 144 from date of IPO (not ownership).
Anyone "owning shares" prior to the IPO shall be deemed an "insider" and only permitted to sell after 6 months have lapsed from the commencement of the IPO, because it is presumed that they are privy to "inside" information.
Then you have a truly "public market" and money for sale of stock goes to the company for support and development of it, and not to the greedy little sneaky f*u*c*k*s like Mark Zuckerman, who thinks all you guys buying were "stupid" SOBs.
If the company/stock craps out in 6 months at least the Bast*ards get hurt with the Retail Investors.
ZUCKERMAN AND COMPANY knew "numbers" were bad for the company THE DAY BEFORE they increased....they increased shares to get rid of their "crap" on unsuspecting public.
CLEARLY INSIDER TRADING....NEED NICE CLASS ACTION AGAINST "INSIDERS" AT FB. DISGORGE PROFITS!
SEC should make new rule for IPO's. All shares sold on an IPO must be TREASURY SHARES, with proceeds of sale going back to the company.
No "insider" shares Restricted for 6 months from IPO (not ownership) Anyone "owning shares" prior to the IPO shall be deemed an "insider" and only permitted to sell after 6 months have lapsed from the commencement of the IPO, because it is presumed that they are privy to "inside" information.
Then you have a truly "public market" and money for sale of stock goes to the company for support and development of it, and not to the greedy little sneaky f*u*c*k*s like Mark Zuckerman, who thinks all you guys buying were "stupid" SOBs.
If the company/stock craps out in 6 months at least the Bast*ards get hurt with the Retail Investors.
What are they going to do a 10-to-1 Reverse Split to get to $150?
Actually, it is a conversation on SYNC that indicates recent acquisition by SYNC ($1.1M) going to give them problems with DSNY...and why hype on SYNC...will be cooled...IMHO...now you have the whole skinny... if you think it is BS ...your prerogative..
time and events will tell ....
DSNY...was and is ....
1. the architect/developer that build iTunes "platform"...but were not careful enough with filing complete and comprehensive patent protection...and AAPL stole it.
2. the architect and developer of the technology that broke Napster....all Major Media companies now use their platform (covered themselves with comprehensive patents on that one)
3. the architect and developer of "Watermarking Media Transfer" technology...(comprehensive patent protection)
4. the architect and developer of "One Copy Transfer" technology...(comprehensive patent protection) ...company announced ready for the imminent release of next version of PME in 28 languages...(last version only in English)
5. the architect and developer of "Clipstream G2 Platform" a playerless, streaming-from-the-cloud media platform. (comprensive patent protection)
SYNC will have to license from DSNY or DSNY will sue and get injunction and go direct to Content providers SYNC is now serving...if any...
As the Author of "How to find Big Stock", Scott Schaffer wrote of DSNY this week:
"There was a stat that measured how much money Google spends on transcoding videos uploaded to YouTube. The figure was over $1B and I imagine that figure was from volume months ago.
Today this stat came out and it validates why Clipstream G2 is becoming more valuable every day.
According to a blog from YouTube, users upload 72 hours of video a minute to the website. Not a typo. 72 hours a minute.
It's nearly double the same time last year, when users were uploading 48 hours of video every 60 seconds."
HERE"S THE KICKER
"What started as a handful of videos shared among friends has transformed into a global platform delivering the next generation of channels to anyone, anywhere, and on any device,"
The big picture will soon emerge on this hidden gem.
JustTheFacts Question: One can imagine if GOOG is spending $1.5B a year transcoding, they would pay $1B for "Clipstream" (alone) and recoup cost in 8 months...and return 150% (plus savings for increased transcoding would have had to pay) each year thereafter, going directly to their bottom line!
GOOG might also decide to keep if just for themselves....and let their competition "burn" cash transcoding?
And on top of that it would be immediately “Accretive “ at $1B!
Am I missing something here?
SS Response: “ Both ways make DSNY extremely attractive. (to GOOG)
You're not missing a thing. DSNY is a Canadian company with a mkt cap of 40m.
One of the hardest things I have had to learn is patience..Sometimes it's frustrating waiting for others to "get it".
And that is a GREAT point..."immediately accretive".
It's software so it could be an easy swap.
since...... it is immediately accretive and easy to swap, even more valuable.”
POSTER’S NOTES: BUT……HERE IS THE "REAL" KICKER!
*Google bought ON2 for $106.5 million. At that time ON2 and DSNY were in merger talks. Google snapped up ON2. DSNY went on its way further developing second generation “Clipstream G2”. Google will now have to pay up in excess of $1B to acquire just “Clipstream G2” from DSNY, before APPLE does. …or Yahoo?
The party will be over when DSNY files "Final Patents" on "Patent Pending" "Clipstream G2" platform.
IMHO....SYNC is going to be hit with a "Patent Infringement" suit by DSNY when DSNY files their final "Clipstream G2" patents shortly. (and from T/A and buying of DSNY...it will be very shortly)
DSNY has patent pending platform "Clipstream G2" to be released, according to the company "shortly", that will save GOOG $1.5B in decoding costs each year...what is that worth to GOOG?
SYNC is violating some of those patents on the "streaming" end of them.
DSNY has been successful in every Patent Infringement case filed so far. IMHO, they will throw a boatload of $ at any infringement case that comes up.
It is rumored they have 100 on their hit list of Patent Infringers....so far.
The only problem is SYNC that IMHO....SYNC is going to be hit with a "Patent Infringement" suit by DSNY when DSNY files their final "Clipstream G2" patents shortly.
DSNY has patent pending platform "Clipstream G2" to be released, according to the company shortly" (from looks of T/A very shortly), that will save GOOG $1.5B in decoding costs each year...what is that worth to GOOG?
SYNC is violating some of those patents on the "streaming" end of them.
DSNY has been successful in every Patent Infringement case filed so far. IMHO, they will throw a boatload of $ at any infringement case that comes up.
It is rumored they have 100 on their hit list....so far.
Question: If company had developed decoding platform that would save GOOGLE $1.5B a year in decoding expenditures, and it would be accretive to earnings (50%) return if GOOGLE paid $1B for technology
Would they do it?
no you didnt. ...did not trade $30 yet....lowest at this point $30.94
wow...keep smoking them boys....
You never know who is out there not showing their sell orders but waiting to dump half-million shares just to get out....
Not saying its going to happen...but I know there are a few sellers ready to lighten up at the right moment.
Dont pay attention to "Failure" of a company to execute its plan?
What planet are you from? This is not exactly a vote of confidence for Stuart as a CEO or Chairman.
If he is not interested in protecting his partners (shareholders) he should resign and shareholders should get some real executives in run "his" company
Well....I guess the worst it could get at this point is "0".
This is pre-iceman bid and ask...when everyone calling Stuart a fraud.
Dont think he is a fraud...just sucks as an executive...can never close a supposed "big deal".
IMHO...that is why it is here.
yeah...after a 5 to 1 REVERSE SPLIT!.............
Cramer was a joke...blaming downside on Nasdaq...NO JIMMY...IT IS AN OVERPRICED PIECE OF GARBAGE...
The Platform sucks,
They count "Pets" as people
Numerous multiple "users"
It the "Bates Motel"...you can join by try to find a way to get off!
They spam you everyday to get you to go to the site, so they can count you as "active"
IT SUCKS ...and smaller focused social sites will replace it...
THE ADVERTISERS and Retail Stockholders .... the only ones who will get scammed.
Dont believe they are looking for $...they can grow organically and dont need money...more to get stock participation IMHO...when brakes through $1.00
Also...looks like "Marriage in the Making"....is everyone "Gay" with Joy? (this message has been endorsed and approved by Pres. "Sweet Cheeks" Obama)
"Given the changes in the economy and in the industry in recent years, we have significantly scaled back our development and manufacturing efforts and embarked on a strategy in which we are seeking strategic partnerships to advance our technology and enter new markets within the global renewal energy industry.
In March 2012, Sunlogics Power Fund Management, Inc., a subsidiary of Salamon Group, Inc., made an initial loan to DayStar. Sunlogics Power Fund Management (“Sunlogics”) is a fund that provides investments to companies in the solar industry and is a project-acquiring partner of Sunlogics PLC and its subsidiary, as well as other third party project developers, specializing in the design, development and operation of solar energy solutions, including rooftop and ground mount solar power systems. Simultaneous with the initial loan, Sunlogics entered into a consulting arrangement with us to assist our management team with business development and also with exploring and evaluating strategic opportunities. We plan to pursue opportunities with Sunlogics that will be mutually beneficial in achieving the goals of both companies."
You have to be kidding. You are really expecting NEWS?
Even Iceman intimated it was an unsubstantiated "Rumor" and no announcement on Monday.
The Ice Man iceman081@hotmail.com
May 13 (1 day ago)
to undisclosed recipients
USPR--RUMORS OF GOOD NEWS ON MONDAY CAUSED THE STOCK TO RUN, STILL LIFE IN THE OLD LADY. BUT I DON'T SUSPECT THAT WE HAVE A DEAL YET. BUT WE MIGHT BE A LOT CLOSER. KEEP AN EYE ON THE TAPE AND I GIVE THIS DEAL A 7 OR 8 ON A 1 TO 10 ON HAPPENING. I HAVE BEEN GIVEN 400,000 RESTRICTED SHARES WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN SOLD AND ARE STILL RESTRICTED
in other words...PUMP AND DUMP on Friday...someone wanted to lighten up, no doubt bought in the .10-.11 range.
From his track record...an Iceman 7-8 means 2-3...at best.
Prediction: The launching of DSNY's "Clipstream Platform" will be the beginning of the end of NFLX.
Content Providers will have direct streaming access to retail clients through their own Web sites without transcoding or concern for end user devices.
Only value in Netflix will be content it has purchased for now, then will devalue due to attrition.
Short or buy NFLX Puts 6 months out after launch by DSNY.
And I predict that once DSNY's Clipstream Platform's breath is fully understood NFLX will be a short (Unless NFLX buys DSNY).
NOW I DISAGREE, COMPANY HAS LIMITED EXPOSURE, read on:
"Take on SEC Notice...overblown
"SEC request for information will blow over. As one poster here pointed out...what I thought might become an issue with PROT, was exposure to shareholders, for the U of Miami termination.
PROT fully disclosed the provision when they attached their agreement with U of Miami to the public disclosures in the SEC filing. They disclosed, we just didn't look or READ.
Here it is again:
Specific terms in the agreement, which were filed with SEC:
III. Term and Termination.
III.1................................
III.2. The Agreement may be terminated by Institution at any time upon thirty (30) days prior written notice. Additionally, either Party may terminate this Agreement upon the breach of any term of this Agreement if said breach remains uncured within thirty (30) days upon receiving notice thereof. Additionally, either Party may terminate this Agreement immediately if necessary to protect the health, safety or welfare of Study subjects.
So very difficult to say "misled"....even though had to dig for them.
FROM YAHOO MESSAGE BOARD:
Part I -"Sorry to rain on your parade" (but you just bet on the Wrong Horse)
If you bought this stock because of CARBYN deal..... you're are betting on the wrong horse!
There are a many of html5 “players”…..like CARBYN out there….but the only one that has a competitive advantage is DSNY’s Clipstream Platform.
According to DSNY CEO, the OTHER players:
“They are talking about using a single look and feel for delivering video to different devices (ie. "one player"), but they are still relying on transcoding on the backside. It isn't a single video format.
The $1.4 billion number is what transcoding is expected to cost by 2014. It is much less now. maybe $400 million.”
The new Clipstream Platform from DSNY, to be releases in May, 20102 (this month) will solve the problems of:
Costs for multiple formats:
- multiple license and patent fees
- more RAID storage
- CPU to do the conversion
- quality loss when converting
- each format needs its own streaming server hardware and software
Clipstream non Java will be the only solution where you dont have to transcode.”
From Scott Shaffer*
(*author of “How to find Big Stocks” who turned $10,000 into $2.8M in two years, DSNY his top pick):
“This is what I know. ONTC was set to merge with DSNY a few years ago and Google came along and bought them for $143m. Google HAS TRIED to do this playerless media technology and failed. “The” top technology companies have talked to DSNY. DSNY is mum and will not say a word until after launch.
Where other video formats require a separate web server (CARYN), DSNY’s “Clipstream Platform” video can sit on the standard web server. There is no player at all. The video format is created in such a way that the browsers are able to render it without a player plug-in. This saves the publisher the cost of transcoding into multiple formats for multiple devices, as the single video will play across all platforms.
Clipstream uses the web server to serve the video (so you don't need an external web server) and because of that it caches. That means that a lot of time, people are getting the video locally, possibly even off their own hard drive if they watch it a second time. That saves 90% on bandwidth. The new solution is completely playerless, so you would get a 100% play rate instead of 85% (meaning more revenue for video ads, for example) and the publisher only needs to keep one version of the video.
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Re: Part I -"Sorry to rain on your parade" (but you just bet on the Wrong Horse) 5 minutes ago
Part II
FROM DSNY CEO: "There's no reason why Clipstream couldn't become a standard. There's no great loyalty to Flash and it has problems (it can contain viruses or trojans, it can crash your computer, it can turn on your mic and webcam remotely, it takes time to launch, it needs a lot of CPU and can leak memory and it isn't cross platform). Currently, Google is porting Youtube videos to H.264 from Flash, but it isn't supported everywhere and has patent fees associated with it. IE. they are using both Flash and H.264, but they had to write a special iPhone app to get Youtube to work on the iPhone or iPad.
We will to support our own CODEC for on demand and H.264 for live (so we can directly play from H.264 chips used by PVR's, etc. without conversion). Everything we do is standards based and compatible with all recent browsers."
Comments on other Carbyn type of html5 “players” out there (like CARBYN): “The reason these companies are needed is that companies are outsourcing their transcoding. It's not hard to have video support all devices. It's just expensive because you need the browser to detect the viewer's device, then shunt them to one of several streaming servers with the right version of the content”
THINK ABOUT IT, "CARBYN" sold for $600k down and $500K over time. Do you really think it is a "complete" solution? DSNY market cap before launch is $40Million.
What will Google, Apple, Microsoft or Sony pay for them with the "complete solution"?
ps. Yes they have the patent pending filed.
pps. DSNY developed the iTunes platform copied by APPLE. (they were neophytes at the time on filing patents, now they have learned)
This Posted Yahoo boards. I agree with it.
"The officers of the company could and should have some explaining to do in not disclosing to investors apparent escape clause with U of Miami. (Iceman put out note "standard", but not standard to investors). They (U of Miami) just walked away without consequences. Investors believed from Company press releases that test were going on or to commence in Feb. but just terminated agreement.
If investors choose to start Class Action against the Company for sell-off/loses related to cancellation of trails, the company has insurance to cover these obligations to investors who got hurt (virtually everyone).
Dont think SEC interested in burying medical technology that will save peoples lives, but will find out why there wasnt complete disclosure to investors... EXPOSURE: NOT INFORMING INVESTORS CONTRACT COULD BE UNILATERIALLY TERMINATED ANYTIME BY U OF MIAMI IMHO
BUT with that said, I believe company and stock will not be overly distracted and both company and stock will rebound IMHO. All it takes is some very good news with a small float and we will be over $3 again................
Press releases below:
April 9th they said: "UMK-121: We are pursuing the Phase 1 clinical trials of UMK-121 for End Stage Liver Disease." investors assumed(U of Miami), then on
April 11th, they announce: " Proteonomix, Inc. (OTCBB: PROT), a biotechnology company focused on developing therapeutics based upon the use of human cells and their derivatives, today announced the termination of the Research Agreement and Phase 1 clinical trial with the University of Miami. This agreement is related to the Company’s compound UMK-121 for End Stage Liver Disease (ESLD) and was entered into on November 15, 2011.
Roger Fidler, Proteonomix General Counsel, said, “We were notified of the termination yesterday pursuant to the contract term that allowed termination with or without cause on 30 days’ notice. However, the effect of the termination is immediate since no further cooperative acts are planned between the University and the Company.”
Prior to this termination, the University had been pursuing the Phase 1 clinical trial of UMK-121 for ESLD. The Company announced in a news release this past Monday that it intended to conduct research and clinical trials involving UMK-121 in certain oncology applications. Those plans remain unchanged."
"adding all you can at this price!", 600 shares traded..I guess you need a loan?
so far...you are right...crappy job....but maybe they have a great close planned.
After all..rumored 2 for 1 so should see $.75 without pumping if DSTI the target company to merge with.
Announcement alone should bring it up there.
so far...you are right...crappy job....but maybe they have a great close planned.
After all..rumored 2 for 1 so should see $.75 without pumping if DSTI the target company to merge with.
Announcement alone should bring it up there.
We will see what is going on ....after 2:30PM, If no follow-through then pumpers are gone and have failed to generate real buying...and interest.
Have to hit the high on the close and perhaps we have a run in the making....time will tell shortly.
Pre-news....has to be DSTI / SLMU merger....speculation/announcement
Looks like something going to happen. I would expect SLMU to go to $.75 (2 for 1) and then rise beyone $1 when investors realize all of SLMU assets will be under a Nasdaq company and attract real investment community. IMHO