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"There's a sucker born every minute" "There's a bagholder born every minute"
No difference, nothing changes the companies diluting relies on that. If you buy into the future revenues gonna take us to the promise land you'll end up a bagholder. Do you think any of these CEO care if you lose all you investment? Maybe a few still doesn't change the end result because the guys doing the dilution don't
PHOT has increased revenues of say a million officerk (fill in the correct amount)
So It only took 500 mil shares of dilution in 2013 to get that amount of revenue.
500mil shares x .05 = $25mil is a hefty cost of revenue.
When the float tips the scales at a ridiculously large 1 bil it won't be moving up in pps anymore.
Options
A. Increase AS keep trying to sell shares
B. reverse split say 20 to 1 start process over again
Either option is not good for the shareholder. Shareholders will run for the exits but it will be a mass exodus and down the price goes. This will offer some good bounce plays. We saw that with MWIP last week. Some will hang on thru the r/s(s) until the 100k shares they own turns into 1 share in their account.
Greens they are doing the rs because the float has reached the AS limit of 500mil. They either raise the AS or do a rs the structure to resume the dilution after a slight delay. This game has been going on for years and years with lots of other diluted POS pennystocks that all went POOF or remorphed into the next latest and greatest
greens12 TRTC $2 mil in Revenue for 2012 then explain why the pps has gone from .66 to .06?
PHOT is a solid play right now. I don't know about the future anything that has upward of A Billion can move very fast. PHOT ain't there yet. MJ is, it moves like the fat people at Wallymart.
TRTC projected revenue. What are the current TRTC revenues?
officerk your rants about brick n mortar with lots of revenue don't inspire my believe that anything but more dilution followed by an rs will happen with PHOT. They are pumping about 55 mil into the float every month current est float 600-700 mil 6 months it could be 1 bil. The rs will come after that. Just don't be the guy hanging around asking where everybody went.
Right now PHOT is the hot play the could and will change soon enough. Anything with a lower float and a product that sells will do. Especially if they don't have bricks and mortar to maintain or a bunch of salaries. Sound like anything we know about?
Rage Cage, Equity Enhancement Program, is that what they call dilution now. Has such a nice sound doesn't it. Here is a whole paragraph TRTC management devoted to equity financing and lots of it.
Terra Tech recently announced a financing of convertible debentures. Aegis Capital Corp. acted as placement agent for the offering. To date the company has raised approximately $1,500,000 through the convertible debentures. The majority of the proceeds were used for the construction of the company's new 5-acre hydroponic cultivation facility. In addition the companies recent S1 filing with the SEC has become effective and they have begun to draw down on the Equity Enhancement Program with Magna Group. The company currently estimates needing an additional $1.2 million to finish the construction. The company expects to draw this additional funding from the existing Equity Enhancement Program as well as the issuance of additional convertible debentures.
Backs up the dilution shzz slide chart From .66 to .06 in 8 months that's a good return on investment
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=TRTC&p=D&yr=1&mn=7&dy=0&id=p33195517455
Says they spent $1.5 mil on a 5 acre hydroponic facility. Seems a bit pricey, maybe that includes new cars, home improvements, salaries, vacation and strippers. Oh its not done yet net another 1.2 mil then another and another. Promise of a Glorious future
Good luck with that Dilution Pig. Play the bounces as it goes lower
Pretty soon all this diluted MJ garbage will end up in the rs grave yard then go POOF!
MWIP rs = Dead, NEXT!
Yeah I think its overvalued 10 for rs and the same price its at now is my prediction
I warned you in bold back in Mar had a long history of reverse splits and would do it again
dude iligence Sunday, 03/03/13 10:09:50 AM
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gogafrinch I made one post on this board and you have a cow. I follow all the pot stocks.You'd be naive or a fool to do otherwise. This is the hottest sector since the Dotcom stocks of the 90's hence the name DotBong. Here's all the pot plays (that fit on the candle glance)
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/candleglance.html?PHOT,MWIP,MDBX,HEMP,GRNH,MJNA,CBIS,AVT,TRTC,ERBB,EDXC,HSCC|B|F
Of all of them MWIP has done the best job of managing the rally, news and dilution. steady flow of news pps right up the 30% line.
From .0010 to .12 very impressive. see for yourself.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=MWIP&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p12014859782
Share structure from Yahoo which we know is old info
444 OS
319 Float
I asked whats the current OS and Float and didn't get a response. Well Golgafrinch you seem to know whats going on with MWIP. What is the current OS and Float? From the TA This is the most basic and important thing to know when trading or owning a pennystock regardless of how long that you own it. It tells you all about the dilution of the stock.
I should be able to go on any board and ask that question and expect to get an answer in 15 mins at most. If no one can answer that question. One of three things is happening
1.TA is locked which immediately raises red flags of dilution
2. No one wants to talk about those numbers
3. The shareholders are clueless Kookaid drinkers
4. part or all of the above
I found this in an article which I'm sure you guys already read
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1210941-weeding-through-the-growth-an-in-depth-analysis-of-marijuana-stocks?source=yahoo
MediSwipe, Inc. (MWIP.OB)
Another company with a long list of name changes, reverse splits and share issues, MediSwipe, Inc. is a B2B play that markets merchant payment solutions and digital patient identification and loyalty card systems (sound familiar?) tailored to the MMJ business.
I question the guys experience that wrote that he talks about and recommends shorting the pot stocks. Ehh tell me how you short penny stocks in the USA and which broker do you use. You can't even short an 3x ETF.
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The best analogy I have for the pots stocks is the story of the Tortoise and the Hare. All but one of the pot stocks are hares (rabbits) The rabbits took off from the starting line like shot out of a gun. They all ate a bunch of steroid laced carrots and had 5-6 Red Bulls. They have been running really hard and shizzing out dilution turds as they go. A few of them have shzz themselves so bad they are about to collapse. The rest of them run the same risk unless the get the crapping problem under control.
But the tortoise spent the last 3-4 years in Colorado eating spinach and getting real strong. He moves slow and deliberate with a long term goal in mind. He hasn't ever had a crapping problem.
Golgafrinch MWIP has been amazing and may continue for a while but past history is usually a good indicator of the future. Another indicator I use is how fast the board members threaten to TOS or ban you from a board if you don't march to the rally tune and talk only about blue sky our stock 24/7. How long did it take you? 2 mins? How long will it take to get the current OS and Float. It should be the other way around. Go to the H s C s board and ask what the OS and Float then talk about whatever pot stock you want. They don't care because the shareholders are very secure knowing they aren't going to get a load of dilution dumped on them. More than enough said have a nice weekend
No this is the hottest bus in the pot market right now I didn't sell my shares I'm patiently waiting for the target zone.
Let me reiterate everything else I'm wrong about
PHOT is a midlife Diluted POS POT stock est Float 600-700mil
PHOT replaced MJNA as King of the Diluted POS POT Stock months ago I said this would happen. PHOT will suffer a similar fate to some degree or another.
PHOT has real product real revenue real dilution
When the OS and Float = the AS expect a rs 10 to 1 up to 20 to 1
This will wipe out most of any shareholders value
That will free up the share structure to do it again.
If they ever move to a higher exchange the shares bought today will not get you there. They will be kicked to the side of the road like the garbage they are.
PHOT is a momentum swing trade because it is the only pot play and has good volume. That won't last forever because
DILUTION KILLS EVRERYTHING
A new leader will emerge in the pot plays replacing the diluted POS POT stocks with a company with real product real sales real revenues real profits and ZERO DILUTION , Low Float
PHOT will be a fat diluted pig ready for slaughter
Hopefully I made myself clear if not I'll re post later when it all happens
Office Porky and Texas you guys weren't paying close attention On Wednesday at 01:57:17 PM I told you PHOT was about to top out it was at .094, 3 mins later is topped at .095. Yesterday I waited till right after the close to say that .095 was the trading top based on the charts. You guys are so gung ho with you pumping you can't see what is going on with the stock. I don't read all the bs prs I read the charts. Charts tell what you need to know. Pullback .062-.072
dude iligence Thursday, 10/24/13 04:07:11 PM
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Intraday chart says the .095 might be the trading top. Yesterday the I gotta get in hats came out. That is a signal it only been .095 barely above my .094 call. 15 min and 1 min show decreased buys and some sale spikes. Tomorrow will tell if it can hold and base sideways, if not retest .072 then mid .06's. The news today didn't move it higher but kept people hanging in there. Problem is the big unknown with the dilution. If you were selling 55 mil shares of this a month you would want to keep the pace up so you don't end up bagholding.
dude iligence Wednesday, 10/23/13 01:57:17 PM
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PHOT .094 here we go time to start handing out the free I gotta get in hats
The I gotta get in I gotta get in feeling get to you?
What happened with M W I P will happen here When the OS and Float hit the AS they won't promote this. Maybe by then they will be profitable. One thing will be for certain a OS and Float of a billion won't be needed so a min of 10 to 1 maybe 20 to 1 rs on this when it becomes a full sized (supersized) dilution Pig. The problem with the free money financing is it is so easy and they will get addicted to it just like the pot they all smoke. I say a r/s followed by more dilution is gonna happen when they hit the AS.
Intraday chart says the .095 might be the trading top. Yesterday the I gotta get in hats came out. That is a signal it only been .095 barely above my .094 call. 15 min and 1 min show decreased buys and some sale spikes. Tomorrow will tell if it can hold and base sideways, if not retest .072 then mid .06's. The news today didn't move it higher but kept people hanging in there. Problem is the big unknown with the dilution. If you were selling 55 mil shares of this a month you would want to keep the pace up so you don't end up bagholding.
dude iligence Wednesday, 10/23/13 01:57:17 PM
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PHOT .094 here we go time to start handing out the free I gotta get in hats
MWIP .027 +61% Nice Dead Cat bounce Stand by for more dilution after a short intermission. I love the last part in bold so comforting. MWIP kicking azz today rs tomorrow more dilution but not Today
"With regard to our recent announcement of the corporate restructure and share consolidation of our Company, there has been much over reaction and unfortunate decline in our share price for an unknown reason. Simply put, the company could not survive or create meaningful value for its shareholders with an outstanding share pool of almost 500 million shares, equal to its authorized shares. We believe that this was a necessary move, although a hard decision, but one that would eventually allow us have a capital structure that would allow us to raise funds with reputable investment banks at a higher valuation and have shares available for merger and acquisition opportunities. The preferred shares to management have always been a part of this company since inception, and have been used for voting rights. To believe now that management would suddenly use the preferred option to dilute shareholders immediately simply goes against every trend that management has set forth since taking control of this company over the last three years," further stated Friedman.
junior not every company on the OTC has dilution You think everyone here has an agenda and find it difficult to believe I'm long PHOT despite my .10-.12 target that I have had since mid Sept. I use to see PHOT as a possible good long term play for the pot sector. Well that was before they decided to dilute the shzz out of it. They are doing it for growth, acquisitions blah blah blah and all the happy sounding crap. Dilution is dilution and it does not build long term shareholder value. PHOT is a short term swing trade. It is a pretty good one but as the float increases it will become overweight and won't be able to rally.
First of all Etrade doesn't allow you to short POS pennystocks. If you can tell me of a platform I can use here in the USA to short POS pennystocks let me and all the rest of the IHUB world know what that is. Otherwise the short argument holds no water. As far as rescuing poor souls I'm counting on some of those poor souls to buy my shares on the trading top then sell them back at the bottom. I'll even let them know it as it is happening.
Nasdaq I mostly just invest. I bought CHUY as an IPO about a year ago. I know one of the managers great Texmex food growing fast in certain states. One of my best performers I bought in my kids eduction IRA about 2 years ago LNG to be the 1st Nat gas exporter starting in 2015 way ahead of the competition. This is going up up up and away. I trade 3x leveraged ETF's as well here is a few Everyone of these are steroid munching monsters that bleed a quart of blood per hour, they are the biggest dilution machines of all if you get on the wrong side of will chew your arms and legs off.
UGAZ/DGAZ
DWTI/DTO
SRTY/SPXU/SDOW
NUGT/DUST
USLV/DSLV
And the worst of all UVXY This is like putting you hand on a burner. Leave it there to long and your gonna get burnt. Don't ever turn you back on it. Stoplimits are a must even if your only going to the bathroom.
The only agenda is to make money and call the diluted POS's what they are POS.
1st MWIP .0225 +34%bounce well underway today
Thats right GO PHOT RAH kick Azz were all rooting for the Current King Of Diluted POS POT stocks.
officerk what can i say except like most Guru's he has an excellent grasp of the obvious. I said 7-8 months ago PHOT was going to become the leader of the pot plays in the wake of MJ's death. That is what we are seeing at the moment. PHOT is king, long live the king, right up till the OS,Float hit the AS then PHOT will suffer the same painful death for bagholders and will be replaced by a low float and non diluted pot play with real revenues, real sales, real profits, ZERO dilution, and strong alliances, partnerships with profitable and the real leading companies in the MJ sector.
No matter how you look at it PHOT is a diluted POS POT Stock. They chose that road to go down and they will suffer in the long run. I simply chose not to candy coat shzz. I despise diluted POS stocks but I will still trade the garbage if they have good volume and momentum.
DILUTION KILLS EVERYTHING
But for now rally on Go PHOT RAH .10-.12
NITE has unlimited shares
Reverse splits especially in pennyland are the Kiss Of Death MWIP is the first to go. From what I can see they are talking Dual listing which they got the idea from GWPH. Chasing, this is typical behavior for Diluted POS Pennystocks to chase the latest and greatest thing. We saw that with MDBX and all the companies that decided to make vending machines, most that will never be sold. But what the heck if it sells stock who cares right? So after the r/s the OS will be 250mil and the Float about 45 mil. At the rate the pps is dropping it could lose 90% of its value before the r/s then put the price back about where it was, only problem is you will have only 10% of your original shares. Well thats how r/s in POS pennyland work.
MJNA AS/OS/Float all up around a billion and the stock price can't get out of bed. MJNA is already dead it is slated for the r/s chopping blk. They will probably roll out one of the satellite companies in a new low float shell and shift revenue into as they pump out shares as fast as they can sell them. This way they can swack off 90% of the dead weight MJNA is carting around. Then let is sit quietly in time out till everyone of the bagholders goes away or forgets the pain of a 90% loss.
PHOT is the new King of the Pot stocks. It was obvious this was going to happen months ago when MJNA was leading the charge and crapping out dilution shares as it went.
Problem is PHOT is headed down the same path (averaging 55 mil dilution craps per month) as MJNA only difference is they have real product, real sales real revenue. What that means is their death will only be more confusing and painful for the future bagholders who want to believe so badly they are getting in on the ground floor of the next Microsoft. Fat chance you are slated for slaughter just like all the other diluted POS Pot stocks. I'm riding on the PHOT bus at the moment. I'm the guy sitting next to the young man wearing all green. I got on just as it was triple top breaking out around .047 last month. This is not the first time or the last I will ride the PHOT bus. As the dilution increases the float the runs will get weaker. Basically the bus will be overloaded and won't have the horsepower to get up the next hill. For example see MJNA chart.
This dilution game has been played over and over in penny land they just change the facade of the companies and have different people running them.
90% of all penny investors will lose 90% or more of the money they put in the diluted POS's
How to play MWIP?
Use the Gallery Veiw chart and wait for Down Hard On The 60 for the bounce. We may get one before the rs and then again after the rs.
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?mwip
The 3 categories for POS pennystocks
CAT I. Investment- No Dilution, real product, real sales,real revenue, real profits
CAT II Trade- Dilution with Float less than 600 mil and good volume real product, real sales,real revenue
CAT III. Pump and Dump- Dilution and anything with the float over 600mil
Normally the 3rd categories is where we see the promo plays. It is easy to move down the categories but darn near impossible to move up.
I see PHOT as a CAT II. I'd hate to see it move to CAT III so soon.
PHOT .094 here we go time to start handing out the free I gotta get in hats
officerk You can't paint dilution as a good thing for shareholders not matter how hard you or anyone else tries. PHOT is real company real revenue real product and real dilution. The dilution used for expansion and growth is such a wonderful thing. What do you suppose will happen when the OS , float reach the AS? One of two things AS is raised like the debt ceiling and the dilution continues. or r/s and start all over again until the volume dries up and the shareholders are all bagholders. Who ever is left gets more r/s. If this were ever to go to a bigger and better exchange do you honestly think they plan on taking you and all the other shareholders and the 100's of millions of shares with them? No they want brand spanking new shares they could sell at a premium. The current buy and hold Forevvverr shareholders are future bagholders no matter how you look at it.
Dilution make this a momentum trade.
Right now at .091 this is pushing the highs good momentum going should push this. could be HOD EOD Another big move tomorrow and the target zone could be reached. If everybody pumps real hard for the rest of the day well into the night and tomorrow I'll give YMCA participation medals and 350k shares.
Green house who ever said anything about being smart I just see PHOT as trade nothing more because of dilution. I'm on the PHOT bus right now headed for my stop. I'm going to sell my seat to the nearest Newbie wearing the I gotta get in hat when PHOT gets uptown to the more upscale neighborhood where the ticket prices aren't as cheap. Then when PHOT goes back to the low rent neighborhood I'll get back on the PHOT bus buying my seat back from the guy I sold it to because he's scared and wants to get off the bus. I have a couple things on my side. The pumpers and the dilution kings. The pumpers many hanging out here will make the newbies feel good about hat they are wearing and getting on the bus at a premium.
The dilution kings know that every once and a while they must shut off the flow to get everyone excited and keep the party going. Then they come in and dump a truck load on the newbies. I'm counting on that to happen, those guys are very predictable. They need money for the strip club
Yeah Green house I really missed the boat calling the breakout back in Sept I don't remember seeing you then.
dude iligence Monday, 09/16/13 10:01:48 AM
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Triple Top Breakout underway needs to close above the 200ma .047
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?phot
dude iligence Monday, 09/16/13 01:39:18 PM
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The Triple top breakout today along with the solid news is making PHOT the hottest pot play going. Long term chart on this has always been one of the best in the sector. As I said last year if they can keep their hands out of the dilution cookie jar PHOT could be $'s a share. Real products, real sales, real growth, 100% legal very solid pick n shovel pot play
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?phot
dude iligence Wednesday, 09/18/13 01:33:44 AM
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As I've said in the past PHOT has one of the best Blue sky charts of MMJ stocks. If they could keep their hands out of the dilution cookie jar they could see $'s a share. I don't see that happening. Dilution turns investments, into trades, trades into pump n dumps, into reverse splits and eventually dilution kills everything. That's what 20 years of watching diluted POS penny stocks come and go tells me.
But for now this is a trade get on at pt A get off at pt B
dude iligence Wednesday, 09/18/13 10:44:50 AM
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Sduplantis18 it might surprise you but I own some of PHOT I bought in the .04's. The float went from 200mil to 400 mil in about 6 months. I personally find it disgusting. I also find it disgusting the degree to which Ihub and its members go to paint the picture of dilution as something good. In the end anyone that holds PHOT long term will end up with a few worthless r/s shares in their account.
So like I said get busy pumping all you I hub pumpers and lets get this diluted POS to .10 so I can sell it to one of the Newbies you lead into buying at the top.
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Remember GO PHOT RAH target .10-.12
I love PHOT its my favorite MJ bus right now. GO PHOT RAH I'm in at .048 trading target .10-.12 maybe .15 maybe .23 ur ah $2.3. MJ not going down without a fight .15 up 12% with volume.
PHOT headed for .10-,12 green-house that is exactly right Investors want a real company with real companies and real profits.
A real company with revenue, profits, low float, ZERO dilution. No plan for acquisitions but real private mj companies instead investing in it.
vs 55 mil brand new shares flooding the float every 30 days.
What would you rather own?
PHOT will never be an investment. It is a trade right now it is a momentum trade. But it will never be an investment due to the decision to go full bore dilution. It is a diluted POS pot stock and always will be.
green house its called Momentum trade PHOT is the pot play to be in despite the fact it is a diluted mid life POS Pot stock Oh I forgot the dilution is for acquisitions and growth = all good Blah Blah Blah. This has been the play to be in since the triple top breakout back around Sept 16. when the price was .048.
I'm sorry if I don't sing the I Hub party pumper line of up up and away. I just call it the way I see it.
PHOT is the hot ticket in the pot stocks right now. Enjoy the ride while it happens but remember and respect the rule Dilution Kills Everything. If you have a tough time believing that go buy some mj and sit back and see what happens. MJ was 5 times hotter than this last winter and look at it now. Stuck Pig just a shadow of what it once was.
Buy and Hold Forevvverr!
Target .10-.12 Go PHOT RAH!
officerk PHOT is the only trade in the pot market right now. Enjoy the spotlight while they have it GO PHOT RAH! .10-.12 target .15 in 6 weeks .23 ur ah $2.3 I mean To Da Moon Baby. Buy and hold ForEVVERR!
green house the OS and the float is going up just as fast as the revenues otherwise this would have already blown thru .23. Mid life dilution pig, slaughter about 6-8 months out. Right now were making Bacon.
Target .10-.12 Go PHOT RAH!
neo so expect a revenue related pr in late oct early Nov?
drivenbypain with all that equity ownership (dilution) going on and zero revenues how do they expect to make that work?
That depends what your trading on how well you can read a chart,especially the live ones. If you see a bottom on a 3x leveraged ETF and you know it is the bottom then do all you buying it wont effect the price. For a pennystock you might not want to do that unless the blks aren't that big,otherwise the mm's like to move the ask on you. Selling these pennys can take a bit more time. A technique that works well on some is to buy as your are selling keeping the price up.
Back in the old days Power Etrade had a 3 second execution guarantee on up to 5000 shares. If you wanted out you lined up all your shares in 5k blks then simply hit execute all and off they went. It didn't matter how many or few were on the bid. The idea was Etrade would buy the 5000 shares then, literally get on the phone and trade the others. That came right from Etrade. Ok if you say so sounds good to me. The system made a dinging sound on every trade. Multiple blks sounded like a slot machine paying out. If the bid wasn't where you wanted it then you simply pushed it then hit execute all. It was a great system you never had to worry about being stuck with a big block of shares you just sold them to Etrade. Etrade bought a lot of blks back then. My guess is some non trader designed that system. Active traders was about $5 per trade. Selling 1/2 mil shares cost $500 in commission but when you did the math you came out ahead vs trying to sell 500k shares with only 10k or 20k or 50k on the bid. They would only execute 5k them lower the bid. And you don't want to do it at the top and definitely not coming down the back side but going into the top. Last time I sold PHOT they didn't execute my sell on the bid so I put it below the bid. They kept the bid in and took about 4 mins to execute below the bid. That was a pretty good clue the top was close.
Clues you are near a top
If you read the following on the boards
"I just bought some shares for the wife and kids college fund"
Feel free to add to this I'll think of some more, but that one always stands out as a classic.
that guy has been looking for that for a long time. Has he ever found it yet?
Is that a real Trademark or one of those fake ones that is perfectly legal? With all this stuff under the Hub why is the stock going down with every pr? Where are the revenues?
What if there was a revenue positive company with contracts with Fortune 50 companies that had lots of leading profitable mj companies working with them. Wouldn't that be cool? All these contracts with companies that have no revenue or sales are a bit discouraging. Its always about the glorious future, not now. Just a dream I guess.
Your right my bad ), The company's proposed plan and corporate structure after the consolidation will leave the Company with two-hundred fifty million (250,000,000) common shares authorized and less than forty-five (45) million shares outstanding
Not as toxic I misread the 250mi AS as OS. Looks like they are going to try and copy cat a couple other pot plays G W P H dual listed and the low float non diluted H S C C with 58 mil float and 250 AS.
This could be interesting except the price is going to go up 10 fold on the split. By the time that happens it could be sub penny and put the price right back where it is with 90% less shares.
The way to play MWIP is using the Gallery Veiw chart and after the r/s wait till it sell back Down Hard On The 60 then buy it for a good bounce.
Heres the gallery veiw remember this indicator only works on the Gallery View. Best bounce reversal indicator in the market. Charts says stand by for major swacking.
http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/gallery.html?mwip
TAss are you saying basically buy low sell high? That sounds like solid advice.