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If I was not a long I would have sold a couple of times from my early purchases of around .004. I am not a flipper when I think its a long term investment but I have some questions that need to be answered. I will learn to trade my positions in the future that I think are good long term investments some of us are slow learners.
If i sell now I would lose my 12X return down to an 6-8x return on my investment. The Ibox does not have confirmed dollars or any contracts for EVRM. I am not saying any of it is lies but most is just expectations - no verification.
Great post - so top secret clearance and being a pink sheet stock means we should believe what ever they say without proof???
Your right but I am starting to wonder after a few calls with the them and some of the things said and they have not occurred. So I am starting to question the management team the jury is out before it was not out. I realize some things ae out of their control but as I was told by an old timer charts never lie CEOs lie. I personally am questioning if they are having trouble with the gov't on this new co. structure. I think it might be slowing up the contracts until all of the details are hashed out with the gov't to confirm they are still a SDVOSB. This is one I think they have not confirmed the change. It is probably ok but I bet they are still going over it with the gov't. The reason is so many of these special caterogy companies are frauds. So I think the gov't has to do their DD on this change and it is taking longer than they expected. When people tell you everything is going well and does not show you any data you have to start questioning what is going on. I know from my 20+ yrs dealing with the major Fortune 500 you cannot tell them everything is going well on your company and product without showing them the data. This is my take and the gov't has to do all of the needed DD. Because if it did turn out to be a fraud the gov't does not need the bad pr especially now with the huge deficit.
Sounds lke any other pink sheet stock - just need the confirmations now of the actual dollars and confirmation from the company subcontracting to them -then it will not sound like the rest of the pinkies out there. It is time to deliver on the talk.
And so did the investors
So what day did it take place??? PR just stated on are around Oct 1st..So when you deal with a Fortune 500 you tell them to keep their factories running that you will have the shipment on or around Oct 1st is acceptable?? I know fist hand that is not acceptable. I think the military expecting a shipment or a needed piece of information for a needed mission is going to accept that statement when lifes are on the line?
Well we I called robert and richard what they told me has not come true so it tells me they are having trouble getting approvals or finalizing contracts. When a company cannot tell the shareholders the change of the CEO has taken place you wonder if there are problems. Every company I have invested in that has a ceo change always pr it the day the change has been made. This one makes me too loose my trust in management a little and what I was told on phoe calls tells me that they are having problems.
Well the last time called them about releasing a pr during the summer and it took around 45-60 days to get approvals so I believe it looks like they ae running into the same problems. I bet we will be lucky to hear anything until end of Nov or early Dec.
8:00 am has passed and no pr
You nailed it it looks like they either cannot get approval to pr the names of the contracts or they do not have anything. I guess if they have anything it will take until the end of the yr to get approvals to pr the names. I think we be better to play other stocks in the meantime. We is that .25 cents that some that are moderators were saying we would have by by the end of Sept and the $1 by yr end???
Looks like .25 by yr end will be a long shot.
Your right but the speed at which Fortune 500 companies work it could be another 90 days to get their approval.
I am right behind you being impatience - i think people are going to wonder if they have anything the longer no pr - no new buyers and we need them to get this moving.
ya another to wait and see if the comany can deliver on what they say they can do - only time will tell -
Thanks for pointing this out - i tend to think a lot of pumping goes on over there - this is a much better bd
Someone have the sells vs buys - looks like selling going on
I hope your right my patience is starting to run out and I have a conflict if this is another pinkie without confirming what they are saying or a real company with huge potential. In a couple of weeks I will make my decision and decide what to do with my 2M+ shares.
I hope yor right and the boys on the board telling how big these contracts can be need to be verified soon or we will not get new investors in. I have an investment house out here watching the stk they do not believe what I am telling them. I hope I can meet with them again after the news comes out and tell them what they missed if not I have no credibility with them.
Your right and he needs to deliver or he will be like all of the rest of pinkie CEOs. They need to release the contracts before the financials so investors can digest them and verify they are real. If they are vry large for a pinkie they need to do it now so they can be believable for new investors.
I thought some where it was said they had done 10M already. Has anyone gone buy there location to see how many people are working there??
I hope you are right but these people are not the big money to really move the stock. We need new investors from other places. I hope the company is not being too conservative now which will hut the shareholders. It is a tough balancing act.
I hope you ae right but the longer they wait and are still on the pink sheets the harder it will be.
That is an understatement - question now of they are gone what we need is new investors
Did the SDVOSB make the difference??
Thanks for the Duns#
So all future contracts will under EVRM but don't they have to change the name to STS/Evrm and will they keep the same Duns# for EVRM?
What is STS's Duns#??? Also don't they have too register as the new company as STS/Evermedia as a SDVOSB???
Is there a new CCR & Duns# for STS/Evermedia???
You know that is a good question. I would think they are trying to get their approval ahead of the earnings report. You got me here, I am not sure. They need to show where their business is coming from. I just know on PR's , advertizements and etc they have too get approval.
They do not what to upset their customers. Big companies do not like you using their name in your PR's, and promotion literature, advertisement & etc without their written permission. I believe evrm is being overly cautions to avoid producing any bad feelings with their customers. This is very normal with Fotune 500 companies. If they do not police it hard any person could put out statements saying they are doing business with them. These big companies take legal action against companies and individuals that do this without their written permission.
Great post putting things in perspective
Agree wen need confirmation with contracts that this technology is something the marketplace will want and pay for. Right now we think that but we need confirmation to get new buyers in here.
Thanks I was never good with written words.
I have talked to him 8-10 times and I think he is a real honest guy. I think they are having "trouble" ( i don't have the right word and will take sh-- for this word here) getting all of the approvals to use the company's name in their PRs before releasing them. I think they know the next PR's need to have the company's name in them to give EVRM credibility.
I have tried for the last week to call a couple of times and have not gotten thru too.
Based on your calculations they would have to net 91M on 150M of revenue 91M divide by 791M sharesO/S = .12 per share earnings times it by 15 pe = 1.72
I doubt they make 91M profit on 150M revenue that would be a 66% net margin - I believe a 25% net profit is more reasonable - do you have any proof they are working on 66% net profit?? that would be great but I question their net margins are that good
Paper analyis as the same as 10Ks of one company vs others 10K to see the actual results - Please forward me EVRM's 10k showing me some results
You nailed with this post - right on the money - we have not seen any meat yet to these Pr's like contracts with dollar signs and forecast on earnings. Best post in a long time here.
You run a small IT business?? So are you public company trading shares?? If so you believe in the SEC regs?
Tough balncing act but I still think they should have put out a pr when the CEO change occurred. IMO it looks like a pinkie to state you are ging to have a CEO change at a future date and do not confirm it. just my opinion.
Looks that way