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It's a good thing I didn't listen to the PUMPERS last week. I would have been down significantly. This whole board was almost nothing but stupid "weeeeeeeeeeeee!" What a joke. It's good to have balance. JMHO.
Hi Jannie. I just updated my message. Maybe I'll get an explanation. Maybe not. Have an awesome day. I am heading out to jog along Tempe lake. It's a beautiful 75 degrees in Phoenix. Oh, to stay on topic, I look forward to the March hearing, and hopefully some results. But I think this will die ever so slowlly. Three more months or so and we'll have a 1 year anniversary of the Alberta expansion announcement. Lol! 1 whole year of nothing. Just hold on everyone. lol.
Freedom of speach doesn't give SLJB the right to PR lie after lie after lie either. But maybe they like to play the safe harbor thing to the max and think they are protected. That doesn't work for me though. Are you defending this skanky company? Do you believe that they have been truthful to you and the investment community? Does anyone invested in this have standards of justice or do you all just look the other way? They have lied, pure and simple. IMO.
...but you don't even know what law firm is that DO YOU?.
but you don't even know that there is no hotel in Dubai that Sulja was a part of, that there are no cement contracts, that there is no lumber mill deal, and there is no gulf coast rebuild, or Liberian lumber deal or AUDTITED FINANCIALS, or tire recycling deal. lol!! lol!! lol!!
Did you even know that money66? DO YOU? lol lol. lol.
I see no Bid on my Scottrade. What's up?
Who bought 100 shares to paint the tape? tsk tsk. Was it some desparado holding millions of shares that wants to give SLJB the illusion of life? lol
Exactly. And Sandshark, too funny. :o) eom.
Vucicevich or VERCICEVICH?
Have the leaves turned color and fallen yet in Windsor? Hellooooooooooooo. Hello? I know it weighed heavily for some investors 3 months ago. Hellooooo. Anyone?
bwahahahahhahahahhaha!
And here is my motto. I live my life every day with this in mind. This is for Big Frank and others who "pray" and "have faith" that SLJB will come through.
"Heaven helps those who help themselves."
There you have it. Despite a preponderance of evidence that hotels were never built, AFs never came, cement contracts never were, lumber yard deals never happened, and the Gulf Coast rebuild that wasn't, among countless other evidence, people pray and put faith into God that SLJB will come through. Well, let me tell you investors that the "powers that be" have given you enough information to "help yourself", but you are choosing not to. I don't think God or anyone can do anymore more for you. The choice is yours, and it is not up to praying for a miracle. Take the knowledge that has been bestowed to you, it is there, and use it to make your decision. Help yourself. GLTA. Sorry if this message is too preachy for some, but it is my truth.
One more reason! #51
*Cons*
______________
1. CEO publically declares he was duped by PV
2. Known pinkie crook Andrew DeVries involved
3. Retraction of all PRs
4. OSC investigation
5. OSC suspends trading
6. SEC Investigation
7. RCMP investigation
8. ASC suspends trading
9. Admission of illegal stock sale through nominee accounts
10. ASC denies trading, supports OSC position
11. Alberta location closed, doors shuttered
12. Back rent owed for Alberta location, eviction of Sulja
13. Windsor location closed, doors shuttered
14. Computers seized in investigation
15. AFs never completed. Deadlines missed.
16. Lied about KMPG and PWC doing audit
17. No lumber mill deal finalized
18. No Dubai hotel deal as PRd
19. No cement contract as PRd
20. No tire recycling deal as PRd
21. No Gulf Coast rebuild as PRd
22. No Liberian rice deal (lol) as PRd
23. No truss manufacturing as PRd
24. No company web site. Shut down
25. No "Master Builder" designation really exists
26. Pumped by the now infamous chphl*r (you know who)
27. The Pumper himself was named as PR agency for co. (lol)
28. No sales at the company
29. Vendors claim to be owed money from Sula
30. PV said AFs were delayed because of "Ramadan" lol
31. No casino license in Dubai.
32. Phones for Red Sea being answered in Canada. Too funny!
33. Wessal's website designed in Washington State. Lol
34. Intec (tires) confirms no business relationship with SLJB
35. Leslie admitting Seek & Destroy PR was untruthful. oops!
36. Kronk Gym. Nothing happened.
37. Cheese and Spindle Colchester Develoment. LMAO!
38. No "design centres" in Dubai or elsewhere, as promisd
39. No listing on Dubai stock exchange
40. No $25mil credit line facilitated by Wessal as advertised
41. Fraudulent financials issued for year ending May 31, 2005
42. Fraudulent financials issued for year ending May 31, 2006
43. LFWK included fraudulent false and misleading financials in their15c-211 filed with pinksheets.com.
44. Trim ship does not open
45. Trim equipment still not delivered from Italy
46. Pinksheets warning on SLJB of "Caveat Emptor"
47. Business sites previously open = 4, Business sites now in operation = 0
48. Kitchen cabinents - $250 million in sales predicted via catelouge when they didn't even have a catalouge
49. Chandler judgment (LFWK ----> SLJB)
50. No Liberian lumber deals.
51. GFYM factor
*pros*
__________________
1. price potentially drops to .0001 and someone can make 100% on some sap buying at .0002
DFG...too funny! You might be right. That is a "pro" in an offbeat way. Maybe we should give them that one. It's lonely on the pro side of things.
Good stuff. Thanks Earnest.
United Nations Adds Timber to Sanctions Against Liberia
Effective July 7, 2003, the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) has expanded sanctions on Liberia to include a ban on timber exports. The UNSC initially approved sanctions on diamonds and on government travel in May 2001, after determining that the Liberian Government was helping fuel rebel attacks on the government in Sierra Leone. Timber has been added to the sanctions list because, according to the UNSC, the Liberian Government has not shown that revenue from the timber industry “is used for legitimate social, humanitarian and development purposes.” The ban on timber exports is set to continue for ten months, but will be reviewed by September 7, and may be lifted if the UNSC determines that the Liberian Government is complying with demands made in UN Resolution 1343. Timber represents one of Liberia’s largest exports, amounting to more than $146 million annually, 80 percent of which is sold to the European Union and China.
http://www.fas.usda.gov/ffpd/highlights/trade~highlights_july2003.htm
And we are to believe that good ol' Peter was going to be right there to negotiate Liberian lumber contracts! Lololollol The little lumberyard that Couldn't, Can't, and Never will! imo
WINDSOR, ON -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 04/19/06 -- LoftWerks, Inc. (OTC: LFWK) today announced that a Liberian supplier of mid- and high-grade lumber cut to traditional North American building lengths and standards will finalize a Preferred Vendor Status Contract with Sulja Bros. as soon as is practical considering the sanctions soon to be lifted from the Liberian timber industry.
A Liberian official earlier said that the country is embarking on a vigorous post-conflict Economic Recovery Program with the intent of placing the country on a viable economic path.
The supply-side contract could increase margins by as much as 19% (12-31%) per annum. The dialogue has also opened venues for further transactions that include Sulja actively seeking out North American suppliers of traditional staples and infrastructure materials like asphalt, low-cost, modular housing structures, and even rice.
Petar Vucicevich, Director General of Consultech Construction Management, Inc., also re-iterated (from an earlier release) that revenue projections for Sulja should exceed $50 million for the twelve-month period following the completion of the merger and the broader market opportunities that await the post-merger Sulja Bros. The financial reports for Sulja Bros. are available for viewing at www.suljabros.com.
48 to 1>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whew! You guys are wearing me out! Calling for "pros". Need some pros here to balance this! lol
*Cons*
______________
1. CEO publically declares he was duped by PV
2. Known pinkie crook Andrew DeVries involved
3. Retraction of all PRs
4. OSC investigation
5. OSC suspends trading
6. SEC Investigation
7. RCMP investigation
8. ASC suspends trading
9. Admission of illegal stock sale through nominee accounts
10. ASC denies trading, supports OSC position
11. Alberta location closed, doors shuttered
12. Back rent owed for Alberta location, eviction of Sulja
13. Windsor location closed, doors shuttered
14. Computers seized in investigation
15. AFs never completed. Deadlines missed.
16. Lied about KMPG and PWC doing audit
17. No lumber mill deal finalized
18. No Dubai hotel deal as PRd
19. No cement contract as PRd
20. No tire recycling deal as PRd
21. No Gulf Coast rebuild as PRd
22. No Liberian rice deal (lol) as PRd
23. No truss manufacturing as PRd
24. No company web site. Shut down
25. No "Master Builder" designation really exists
26. Pumped by the now infamous chphl*r (you know who)
27. The Pumper himself was named as PR agency for co. (lol)
28. No sales at the company
29. Vendors claim to be owed money from Sula
30. PV said AFs were delayed because of "Ramadan" lol
31. No casino license in Dubai.
32. Phones for Red Sea being answered in Canada. Too funny!
33. Wessal's website designed in Washington State. Lol
34. Intec (tires) confirms no business relationship with SLJB
35. Leslie admitting Seek & Destroy PR was untruthful. oops!
36. Kronk Gym. Nothing happened.
37. Cheese and Spindle Colchester Develoment. LMAO!
38. No "design centres" in Dubai or elsewhere, as promisd
39. No listing on Dubai stock exchange
40. No $25mil credit line facilitated by Wessal as advertised
41. Fraudulent financials issued for year ending May 31, 2005
42. Fraudulent financials issued for year ending May 31, 2006
43. LFWK included fraudulent false and misleading financials in their15c-211 filed with pinksheets.com.
44. Trim ship does not open
45. Trim equipment still not delivered from Italy
46. Pinksheets warning on SLJB of "Caveat Emptor"
47. Business sites previously open = 4, Business sites now in operation = 0
48. Kitchen cabinents - $250 million in sales predicted via catelouge when they didn't even have a catalouge
*pros*
__________________
1. price potentially drops to .0001 and someone can make 100% on some sap buying at .0002
imo
The Mother of all scams. Built by DeVries, advocated by PV, and perpetuated by duped CEO Steve Sulja.
Correct! Unfortunatley, you lose all of your money. Sorry. But thanks for playing.
O.k., you got it. "This pink sheet stock took the pinkie investment community by storm in 2006, but the company itself was a miserable failure, and numerous fabricated business dealings were showered upon the investment community and served to scam countless investors. Name that stock."
"I will take SCAM for $100 Alex."
40 to 1!!!!
Come on, what are the SLJB positives?!!!
*Cons*
______________
1. CEO publically declares he was duped by PV
2. Known pinkie crook Andrew DeVries involved
3. Retraction of all PRs
4. OSC investigation
5. OSC suspends trading
6. SEC Investigation
7. RCMP investigation
8. ASC suspends trading
9. Admission of illegal stock sale through nominee accounts
10. ASC denies trading, supports OSC position
11. Alberta location closed, doors shuttered
12. Back rent owed for Alberta location, eviction of Sulja
13. Windsor location closed, doors shuttered
14. Computers seized in investigation
15. AFs never completed. Deadlines missed.
16. Lied about KMPG and PWC doing audit
17. No lumber mill deal finalized
18. No Dubai hotel deal as PRd
19. No cement contract as PRd
20. No tire recycling deal as PRd
21. No Gulf Coast rebuild as PRd
22. No Liberian rice deal (lol) as PRd
23. No truss manufacturing as PRd
24. No company web site
25. No "Master Builder" designation really exists
26. Pumped by the now infamous chphl*r (you know who)
27. The Pumper himself was named as PR agency for co. (lol)
28. No sales at the company
29. Vendors claim to be owed money from Sula
30. PV said AFs were delayed because of "Ramadan" lol
31. No casino license in Dubai.
32. Phones for Red Sea being answered in Canada. Too funny!
33. Wessal's website designed in Washington State. Lol
34. Intec (tires) confirms no business relationship with SLJB
35. Leslie admitting Seek & Destroy PR was untruthful. oops!
36. Kronk Gym. Nothing happened.
37. Cheese and Spindle Colchester Develoment. LMAO!
38. No "design centres" in Dubai or elsewhere, as promisd
39. No listing on Dubai stock exchange
40. No $25mil credit line facilitated by Wessal as advertised
*pros*
__________________
1. price potentially drops to .0001 and someone can make 100% on some sap buying at .0002
imo
Good morning. You are absolutely correct. Those are biggies, and NEVER came true! Just more pump to take our money. I mean really, can't people see this by now? What more do they need? Complete shut down by the SEC?
Anyway, have a great day JBG. I'll add these to the list when I get home tonight. I'm still accepting more pros and cons, so anyone can hit me back.
"PLEASE ADD TO NEGATIVES:
No "design centres" in Dubai or elsewhere in the ME, as promised to be done in conjunction with the ever elusive Wessal entity.
No listing on Dubai stock exchange.
No $25mil credit line facilitated by Wessal as advertised (I believe that was the amount, but whatever...)"
And the Kronk Gym (sp?) in Detroit! Oh my. There is no end to the list. It seems SLJB was quite an ambitious company (re pump), but sadly failed to deliver on nearly any single item (re scam). imo.
Lol. Those are Great! I'll compile a complete list if everyone wants to continue to add to it. Maybe it can go in the I-Box along with the pic of PV. :o)
Hey, we forgot Colchester cheese and spindle village. LMAO!!
I'll add it.
They did not deliver them to the investors as PROMISED, and no, I do not believe they are sitting on a desk all set to go.
Yes, I am sure AFs were never delivered. Where have you been? This is ridiculous for you to questuion this. Deadlines were missed. Period.
I don't think it will. I don't see how it could. Anyway, we don't need to make this another EWO-Redskies night. All the best to anyone that TRUELY believes they have made the right choice. To all the deliberate lairs, karma is a b-i-o-t-ch. <Smile>.
o.k., and maybe they'll get handed another extention for several more months. Meanwhile, your money, and that of other investors, is tied up indefinitely, while you could be taking advantage of the volatility in the market and playing some great opportunities.
I don't care if you make money red. I hope that anyone that makes money, does it in an honest fashion, and not purposely at the expense of others by lies. That's just plain evil, and there is a hell for those people. imo.
Yes, we have been down this road, and you have been proven wrong. You sound more and more suspect each time you deny these things, imo. Sorry.
"EWO! The PRs were not retracted. We have been down this road before!"[/]
Ahh, it was a slow day Red. I had to do something. Take it up with the Windosr Star or Steve himself. Feel free to post the positives. Be specific. TIA.
While we wait, let's look at what we have thus far.
Everyone, feel free to help out here, positives or negatives. I cannot recall everything:
*Negative*
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1. CEO publically declares he was duped by PV
2. Known pinkie crook Andrew DeVries involved
3. Retraction of all PRs
4. OSC investigation
5. OSC suspends trading
6. SEC Investigation
7. RCMP investigation
8. ASC suspends trading
9. Admission of illegal stock sale through nominee accounts
10. ASC denies trading, supports OSC position
11. Alberta location closed, doors shuttered
12. Back rent owed for Alberta location, eviction of Sulja
13. Windsor location closed, doors shuttered
14. Computers seized in investigation
15. AFs never completed. Deadlines missed.
16. Lied about KMPG and PWC doing audit
17. No lumber mill deal finalized
18. No Dubai hotel deal as PRd
19. No cement contract as PRd
20. No tire recycling deal as PRd
21. No Gulf Coast rebuild as PRd
22. No Liberian rice deal (lol) as PRd
23. No truss manufacturing as PRd
24. No company web site
25. No "Master Builder" designation really exists
26. Pumped by the now infamous chphl*r (you know who)
27. The Pumper himself was named as PR agency for co. (lol)
28. No sales at the company
29. Vendors claim to be owed money from Sula
30. PV said AFs were delayed because of "Ramadan" lol
*positive*
__________________
1. price drops to .0001 and someone can make 100% on some sap buying at .0002
Lol. Is Leslie going to try and save her arse like Stve is trying to save his own? They are all going down seems to me. The whole bad bunch of them! Yahoo and good riddance!
This one already had its day in the sun. It was up to 21 cents share, or higher. I can't recall exactly. Most of the stocks you mentioned have retraced to .0001, which is where this one is heading, imo.
75% of the list you posted are at .0001. None I saw are above .0006. SLJB is the highest of them all. Let me be clear when I say again, this dog had its day. It will end up in the pinkie dog pile at .0001 like the rest of the stinkin pinks. I assume you are in this stock, or want to get in it. But you are late for the run. It happened more than a year ago. Now this is known to be a scam, and it's going to .0001, imo. It may even cease trading soon, like some of those other stocks on your list. All imo. What's the statistic? I am sure someone here knows it. Something like 90% of all pinkie investors go broke within a year. Help me with that someone. TIA.
"empty shells trading are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.obviously you didn't do a very good dd on that fact did you? what is with all the shouting? glty
there are lots of lotto tickets to buy out there that have 15billion o/s and run to .028 look at qbid ran from .0001 to .028 on the hype of a gay t v network channel. cya wouldn't want 2 b yah.. ewdi, yngr,smas,inxr,insn,wnsh,pmrs,smmt,cyos,efgo,popt,bkmp,bunm,cbay,cwir,ccng,cnes,ghti,glbt,isyx,mhii,omog,pnms,thri,wglt,imjx,gegp,smmt, as well as sljb,sljb is one of the lowest floats of all..."
Jannie, and Ernie, thanks for your reply to my question!
And I agree Jannie. It astounds me, too. Take care!
"I believe that he is silent (PR-wise) upon his lawyers' advice, and I believe they are waiting until the OSC findings to do anything. However, it's astounding to me that anyone who read his interview in the Windsor Star can still believe that there is anything basis for their hope that things will be just fine.
Some are obviously hoping Petar will pull this out of the fire, but he has no control over the fate of the Nevada pubco, despite what some remaining shareholders say to the contrary."
Jannie, FWIW, I think it's great that you are here. If it were not for you, I am sure more people would be sucked into this and there would be more lost savings, lost kids funds, etc.. Your DD is weighty and valuable, and if anything, people should follow your lead and be as agressive in their DD as you are. They might feel that crossing their fingers and hoping for the best is foolish.
I have a question for you. Since Steve is in control, and says this is a scam, and there are no books, business, etc...then what are his options? Why doesn't he pull the plug? I assume he and the boys are facing legal threats from shareholders for one. But I wonder what his way out of this is. Maybe he is still silent because of his lawyers advice, but I just think the longer this goes on, the more harm is done to all. Thoughts? TIA. Enjoy the day!
OT: lol! O.k., a shot of Nyquil (sp?) and I am off to bed! Lousy flu, but I still feel g-r-e-a-t about 2-0-0-8!
That I understand Frank. It's a gamble. I appreciate your reply. I feel great about 2008. I really do. I'm not sure what it is, but I have an overwhelming feeling of good for 2008 in my life. I hope you get the same, here with your investment, or in other ways. I certainly cannot say that I am 100% correct about SLJB's fate. I just know how little respect I have for the entire bunch. They have done a fine job of not earning my respect. Have a great night.
Unbelievable to see posters defending the liars and cheats of SLJB. Amazing. Tear down your common man that got scammed, and prop lying Pete and Andrew up on a glorious pedestal. Amazing. Do they deserve your money? In all honesty? Have some pride. I know when they failed to deliver the AFs, after Pete said they would be "there by the morning, so go to bed everyone", I was done with that lying sack of dog feces. He doesn't deserve any more money. Get some pride for heaven's sake. Geez.
Frank, Jannie knows more about this stock than anyone I know. And that is because she makes the calls, and does the research. I assume most here are crossing their fingers and hoping for the best. I doubt many have done 1/5 the DD Jannie has. And I know this because she has shared names and numbers with me of the investigators looking into this mess, and who, I believe, are trying to protect the public. Thank Heavens for Jannie and others here who bring a balance to this board, so that others don't get sucked in with "To Da Moon!!". She is not "Bad", and I also take offense to that characterization. She's not the one that spewed garbage PR after garbage PR and lied about delivering audited financials.
Ernie, the fact that the current CEO said he was duped by those behind SLJB should have been the nail in the coffin. And the fact that the same CEO controls the future of SLJB (not Peter) should really be the nail in the coffin. Steve has made it clear that he does not want to continue this sham, so what the hell is there to this that is so appealing? Amazing. Very risky, IMO.
I've got my money in some of the wall street stocks that have been hit by the lending crisis. I think there is money to be made there. Some of those stocks are down 80% in 2007. People act like this is the only freakin stock. Geez. Go little lumberyard! Bring cement to the world! The world needs Sulja! lmao!
I only know of one person that denies it is a scam. And he has been wrong about everything thus far. :o) I think most longs are hoping for a momo play, which is what happened last week. But the new buyers that came in will sell their few million shares when they realize their is no life behind them to keep this propped up, and it will depress the price, and this will go on for another week or so, and then .0001 will be where it rests in peace. Just like all the other scammy pinkies. They eventually all make it to .0001. I can't wait. Happy 2008!