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I don't buy it, i doubt PETX CONDITIONAL approval is the real news that ADXS wants to share, this doesn't mean much, this is something we were almost 100% sure was going to happen, its also going to roll out in a couple dozen clinics to initiate a new study. I hope this is not what ADXS wants to parade, i am still hoping for some major news today or tomorrow otherwise still no reason to bring up conference by a month.
Don't get me wrong i'll take every penny up that will get me closer to my average of 8 ish but if this is the only news i doubt it will sustain anything, now if that was conditional approval in humans it would be a totally different ballgame but for now i'm keeping calm :) LOL
on another note i am kicking myself for selling my NXTD a few months back at 1.9 to add more ADXS, was very tempted to put back some money in it at 1.2 i put the order in but didn't press execute and today its at 3 something, i would have tripled my money in few months while my dear old ADXS has more than halfed my money in more than ten years.
just venting, but as i said in every single post in the past i'm holding my shares until boom or bust.
good luck everyone
agree, bigger dark forces at play but it might be that they are just waiting now for news to let it run, you know they might just hide behind a reason to let it go
That's exactly what i was thinking, they better have some really good news, they have seen with their own eyes how bad news and no news affect the stock so if they don't have anything good to say they should keep their mouth shut until they do... here goes nothing... maybe they have a small gift for us it is the season you know
If it does go to 16 $ just embrace whoever is the first person you see after that if you dont find anyone just embrace yourself LOL
ADXS has good news ADXS goes down ADRO goes up
ADXS has bad news ADXS goes down ADRO goes up
ADRO has Good news ADRO goes up ADXS goes down
ADRO has bad news ADRO goes up ADXS goes down
That was not funny but its true
"Many clinical biotechs are highly manipulated"
The whole market is rigged
Added more today, but i have to tell you i'm starting to question myself
what bothers me is the lack of communication from company, everything is in the dark
check NXTD who issued a PR in response to shareholders questioning about price action
i mean let them throw us at least a crumb
meanwhile i continue to hold my stash of ADXS stock that i have accumulated over a ten year period ... yawn
Although progress has been demoralizing i maintain hope for the following reasons:
1. Its human nature to hope
2. No bad news such as patient death, trial cancellation etc
3. Trials still rolling
4. Personally i believe in the science
5. when i have doubts i go to website over and over and see our trials, constructs, partners etc
6. they continue to hire (i know this might mean nothing)
concern has always been
1. manipulation by big guys
2. poor management with self enrichment and mal alignemnt with shareholders, i am all for bonuses AFTER they bring in the Value not before anything materializes like dan did in past and current management is doing. only reason i'm happy share price is below 3.19 is because this makes recent management option handout in negative territory.
At this point i'm about 70% negative on my holdings so its really not worth doing anything but wait...
who's with me :)
I already posted a while back that if i lose with ADXS i will never buy another biotech if i win its a whole different story :)
I had a dream that ADXS went from 3 to 8 $ based on news, the headlines were blurry so i couldn't read the news but it was possibly related to prostate construct. then i woke up :) Those few seconds of happiness, i just can't wait for this to happen in real life LOL
On a second note Jaffries meeting next week in London, Lombardo is going to be there, always remember its not the meeting that matters its what happens on the sides that we are not told about that really matters and since i'm expecting a european partnership as we all are thats why i'm hoping the vienna, and now london (with lombardo) might hold some hidden news
good luck
well it better not be because i'm still waiting ... ten years and counting (i have to admit i entered early but now i have a better understanding of how market and biotechs work or at least i think i do LOL
welcome to the "pure ADXS" club, its been a mostly gut wrenching experience, you have no other stocks to balance your portfolio when ADXS is red and neither when its green ... oh wait its never green
LOL ROTFL
yea i posted on ONCS once as well yesterday evening HAHAHA
ONCS is up today not because of DOC's news but because of the trial results news
Once DOC starts with his RSU's people who short should start shorting ONCS but he will probably pump it first. people who know DOC's pattern and who also have some money to invest can make huge gains in ONCS, buy with the pump, sell with RSU news
No posters at meetings usually have ZERO effect
as an ADXS long term holder for 10 years now and living through the 4 years o'connor had at ADXS all i can say is beware, be ready for a up and down ride. He wasn't kind to Long term shareholders, took plenty of free shares to himself with no return to shareholders. Price of stock went from 3 to 30 and back to 3 all in those 3 years. reason for leaving ADXS is unclear some speculate he was sacked which is the most likely reason because there is no other explanation for his departure and share price has been tanking steadily for past 2 years. He might hold a different path for ONCS than he did ADXS.
I am not recommending anything with regards to ONCS, i was just sharing my personal experience as ADXS holder.
I found out by mistake about this from the talk about oconner on ADXS board tonight
sorry for the intrusion, you won't see me here anymore
good luck
its a development stage biotech company the whole deal is a stretch
early termination because of good results automatically means earlier approval as you will use these data to supplement your application to regulatory authorities (ie FDA etc )
it is a double win because you have data Earlier than expected and Better than expected
yes you are wrong (and i mean it in a funny friendly way :)
the interim analysis is not known by treating physicians , it is only a small sub committee overseeing trial everyone else will remain blinded. If significant benefit or harm is noted then trial might be stopped early (most of time trials go to completion) if a trend shows but level of significance is not extreme then committee just says interim analysis reveals no safety issues and ok to continue with trial.
yes in the interim analysis an independent committee will know difference between two groups, remember this is also to protect trial patients in case there is harm as some studies are stopped early due to harm as well. so the sub committee reviewing interim analysis will be unblinded as far as i know.
About the new options i think its a better approach than RSU (which were free money) options is what real companies use however options should not be given in the money. options are usually given with strike price much higher than current price so that the option holders would work hard to raise company value to reach and exceed conversion price. these options given yesterday are a JOKE. Only sliver of hope these options at these price give me is that they expect price to go above 3.19 so that they would benefit from them otherwise they are useless. having said that anything above 3.19 is good for them but not for most of people on this board, most of us are averaged between 8 to 10 $ so had the options been set at ten $ i would think that they are expecting price to go to 20$ etc
But here is where we are and i believe that company is still stiffing the long term shareholder
True but always keep in mind that there are interim analysis of trial and that if trial is stopped early due to significant benefit that would be much better news than waiting till regular completion and this will give it a blockbuster status.
I said it before and i will say it again. Posters at conferences mean NOTHING, i have been to many conferences in the past and the poster sessions are a hit or miss where some posters aren't even noticed. also the people at these conferences are usually looking at the poster from a medical standpoint. Just this September i went to a national medical conference and when i was at the poster session i remembered the people on this board group and took a picture of posters with no people around to show this board what a poster session really means (nothing). when i came back home i didn't know how to attach that figure on to a post at IHUB so i let it be. Even oral presentations won't move the stock. nothing short of late breaking phase 3 clinical trial (better if stopped early due to beneficial results) or a major deal or solid source of income, these are the stuff we are waiting for. last week i said i have a feeling this week we might have rise in PPS it wasn't because of the meeting, i was speculating that since they are in europe they can be having side talks with a european partner and we might hear about that this week, as this week is still not over i think i will wait till end of next week before dismissing any news coming out of this trip to europe.
Is this going to be a special week and / or month ... Here comes monday
Excellent find, this is one week old. Our platform continues to advance.
yes a long, dark, winding road but i can see the end of it
so i see you are a believer in the MARKET good luck if you think its fair supply and demand
Raja it makes perfect sense to blame it on manipulators if EVERYTIME we have GOOD news the Price DROPS
again the ultimate argument is as long as we don't have a product in the market we are still a development stage and at risk company which also lends hand to manipulators to play on that as well
I'm waiting for next week, i have a feeling we are going to have a Big deal signing concerning european partner
Good luck to all
gut feeling we hear good news next week
conference on november 6
i have a feeling we might hear about european partner as well as PETX in next 1 to 2 weeks successively
not that these events matter but hoping that whoever is manipulating will take these events to manipulate upwards once and for all
meh i'll stick with manipulation
ROTFL
Added more on friday.
upcoming week will be last week for me to possibly add more after that i'm not adding a single share.
I have a gut feeling that the week of November six and beyond are going to see rapid rise in PPS, don't ask me for sources or links i already said its a GUT feeling but if it does happen, i called it here first ROTFL
good luck guys
I have come to peace with my ADXS shares, i have stopped checking share price on daily basis after a decade of doing so....
James salmon any thoughts here ? or are you just holding out like me ?
I agree with what you said and thats why i'm holding every single share (also adding a bit if still under 5 in october)
you know i was once in PBOF (pure biofuel) they kept on dropping price and dropping price and dropping price and when company was about to become profitable (next quarter) price was 0.001 cents at that time they bought out the company and took it private. the crooks used retailers to fund themselves through development and then when they were about to become profitable they bought out company and took it private.
After ADXS i'm done playing with the big guys, i have seen enough to convince me that the whole market is rigged
This is the best buying opportunity ever, anyone waiting on the sidelines must jump in now.
double digits coming soon
licensing deals around the corner
buyout inevitable
to the moon
ROTFL looool
Holding forever , yes the red stings but i'm not losing twice here, already mentally factored in losing all the money, worst thing would be for me to sell now and possibly lose again IF we do have a turnaround.
Good luck people
can one of you noeller's (people who talk to noelle) ask her if adage is selling, she has denied that very recently as someone has posted on this board. lets see if she would still deny it ROTFL it feels like jim carry in that movie where they promote him quickly in his company and then he is on news being asked about the scandal in company and stock price on screen plummeting to zero and he has no clue what to say. If the only thing i will get out of ADXS is a bad laugh i will take it.
and for those people talking about a relief rally what does that even mean ... common relief from what ? from adage leaving ? nothing ever made sense with ADXS stock trading. i don't care about anything anymore. i'm just going to hold forever and i'm still adding if still under 5 in october but this will be last time EVER that i buy ADXS regardless of anything that will ever happen in the future.
there i said it :)
Current price is probably at or close to 5 year low ...
I guess we are at a critical point where after this price we will either melt down or go up
It seems like a final Entry point or Exit point after which a group of people will wish they did opposite of what they did
If price remains below 5 until october 1 when i get some funds i will be adding FOR THE LAST TIME (i can't count how many times i've said that before, i'm sick and tired of saying it but i keep on focusing on the science and as long as i see we have approval/marketing potential i will hold and add
ADXS will define my future in stocks if i lose here i will never invest in biotech again (or if i do it will be with 1/20 th of the amount i put in ADXS)
If i succeed you know the rest
i wouldn't be surprised to see a run up this week and then sell off after the cantor presentation, seems to be the main theme lately small run ups before news and massive push downs after both run up and drag down for no valid reasons.
We need Real Good solid material news to drive this up once and for all
Adage should be looking to ADD at this price don't you think ?? if they haven't sold it means they still believe, if they still believe shouldn't they be averaging down ?? if i'm not mistaken they are also now theoretically under water with us ! Anyone ?
Blue you said
"the company is aware that the news about the Her2 is misinterpreted"
the news about HER2 is NOT misinterpreted, please let them go back to the filing and read how vague it was, it was more misrepresented than misinterpreted.
Having said that i do not believe we will have any appreciation in price as we approach end of year tax related selling i think the shorts will use this as well to put further pressure down (or might be an opportunity for them to cover)
We won't see any rise again until January, Maybe thats why January calls were being heavily bought last two weeks ?
The above guessing about price is in case we don't hear any MAJOR news, PETX approval is not Major
a mega deal or buy out or positive phase 3 that will be only positive news that will move this stock
As for posters at meetings, i personally attend 2 medical conferences every yer, it baffles me why some people on this board think that a poster at a meeting will have ANY effect on price. There are HUNDREDS of posters at these national meetings and they sometimes get no attention from attendees. Late breaking Phase 3 clinical trials is what everybody looks for and attends. Posters are hung in poster areas and people walk around reading titles sometimes stopping at a poster for more than a minute to read. so please lets just be realistic.
- ADXS has excellent potential
- ADXS is heavily manipulated
- ADXS still doesn't have an approved product
- ADXS in my opinion even at this stage (read above) is still undervalued
- ADXS has Excellent potential (i know that was point number one)
Good luck guys
I'm not selling a single share its boom or bust for me ... Who's with me :)