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Judge said she would rule on ds by the 17th. Say what???? Hopefully not the same crap. I can say one thing for certain, Willingham wont accept anything less than $8 a share. Why would anyone for that matter considering they offered a bs offer of $8 before. There is a BP smokescreen in the water now. Maybe my malpractice rant got them nervous. Afterall I did email Nelson. But Rosen already knew he could be in trouble.....Maybe just maybe this is about to come to a close.
Should be brought up in court tomorrow. Also sj should be awarded with no if, ands, or buts. Examiner should also be granted. I emailed Nelson yesterday about malpractice against Rosen. Havent heard anything back yet. Dont expect Susman to be there. He is working on two other cases regarding copyright infringement and something related to Indians losing their property because of global warming. It is on their site. I hope that he would still show up though. It would be nice. This bs needs to stop and we need the sj and examiner. Judge should grant those and let them appeal. That is when we delay. Lol.
go wamu...slaughter Rosen....Pressure Walrath to make rulings...
I was thinking that court Thursday will last maybe two to three hours, if that. If court would last all day, then no, even though there is about and hour and a half for lunch. I have been in court atleast 8 times in two years and some children do wait out in the lobby with an adult. I would take her in there with you, afterall the experience for her will be historic. Also a little kick wouldnt hurt....Go Wamu!!!
from their filings it should be obvious they are not working toward a settlement. Susman should now know this, since time is definitely costing him money.. They will not turn over the requested info. therefore we need to proceed with everything. By the way on the malpractice attorney that was mentioned earlier, alot of them do probono work. You know, where they take their cut at settlement. I already mentioned a top malpractice attorney last week. I dont see him playing any games....
not true. they were supposed to have a m&c before the hearing date. If it is brought to the judges attention on the 17th that the m&c was fruitless, there is a very good chance that she will rule on the examiner then. She does not have to hear arguments when the m&c was agreed upon and Rosen did not follow through...
that is completely false that preferreds have to be paid in full for commons to see anything. Once again we are in bk to protect assets. Fraud was committed. Therefore every class gets paid. I dont understand where you people get this fing bs that preferreds have to be paid in full before commons get anything. This bk is not going to be finalized. we are fighting for justice. not because of indebtedness. all credibility is lost no matter how good you are when such bs nonfactual crap is posted......
they can sell that at a .03 gain and make $90,000. In a week let alone.....not bad at all. Id say a daytrader....
wrong.
at minimum $8. nothing on meeting, but of course they didnt hand anything over.
sus could be there. the alcoa case is over. examiner is almost appointed. and still jpm is trying to stop it from happening. I would say that getting approved, it is all over for them.
cant you black out one side and go over it with white out? Rosen would do something like that... lol.
you can refuse it if you are there when they deliver it...
Rosen said $30 million a month for fees. Those are heavily inflated. So I guess we should demand atleast $30 a share for the commons. hmmm. next time anybody gets anything from rosen via fed ex, send it back.. Just refuse it, if you are home when they deliver it of course. I figure it costs about $20 each for fed ex and say they send it to about 500 or more people. $10,000 minimum each time.
not to mention in addition to my prior post that they can be forced to return everything to Wamu with interest. so who cares if they dont comply....
with that bs then the judge can give us what we want or they can prove otherwise. Or just give us wnat jpm 8 and 10k states from the dr. in finance. real simple. tack on tens of millions extra that we will get when Rosens fees are returned as well....
malpractice..fee forfeiture will take care of all this bs...
let Rosen know this......three words.. malpractice fee forfeiture...
I really did see that last night at ryan newmans place on american pickers. You need a shovel if you know what I mean. lol. go wamu. Rosen, nevermind..
The $8 a share would be their third offer. Twice they offered nothing. The $8 a share is the actual starting point at an attempt to make headway. It should be refused and I will not accept it. These ridiculous numbers they are throwing out will not be tolerated. $24 would probably be accepted, but the true value is almost certain to be double that amount. Like the finance guru has stated, in Jpms own words, Wamu was worth in excess of $50 a share. They have too many things against them to continue to play this bs. Their next offer should atleast be $8 a share. With all the pressure from Susman I cant believe criminal charges arent being sought as well as the speedy removal of Rosen.
m&c (not macaroni and cheese) is before the examiner request date. If they dont turn over the cheese in the m&c then obviously the judge will approve the examiner. Lets put faith in Rosen sauce and say the m&c will get the turn over of the docs requested. Yeah right, it looks like examiner gets approved on the 17th. Or maybe they throw in an $8 offer in the m&c. I dont see how a delay will help them considering Susman is'nt playing these dime store lawyer games. They achieve nothing in these delays. Hopefully Susman is getting tired of watching the pot boil. It is time to stir this bs.
for as long as the examiner is hanging over everyones head, the por is in neutral/dead. I feel judge is in favor of examiner now that they have produced "minimal documentation." With nothing left for them before all hell can break lose, I think they will drag this out to trial. I still am for Rosen being sued for malpractice, which also includes fee forfeiture. I remember him saying $30 million a month.
$40 a share would be excellent.
Show me the money!!!!!
sheila and Jamies child???? No stock swap will ever happen. go wamu!
all of the filings are geared toward going to trial, not to get a fair settlement offer in this case via a stock swap. Another low ball offer with a later offer being higher to make them save some face will happen. Susman being a highly rated trial attorney will not allow shareholders to be paid via a stock swap but only in cash. If there was an option to accept a stock swap instead of cash, that would be foolish. Jpm already got caught being corrupt and who wouldnt believe they wouldnt short their own stock to make up for their losses.
you can not settle a lawsuit with stock. cash only.
you should have bought wamu in the past and you should do so now. Lol.
that makes no sense. .53 cents lower than the 52 week high is not even close to being the best. nothing is better until the 52 week high is broken. Nothing...No need for excitement until the 52 is broken or we are bought out. Unless you flip, then good luck. You can flip 10,000 shares and a long with 1,000 shares will wind up with more money than the flipper. hmmmm. does that make sense. Yes, it does....
has clay ever been right on this. doesnt matter what he thinks on wamu. most here are long and know the true value. clay does not know what is going on in court...got wamu? lol.
people should realize there are no settlment negotiations going on and there will not be any negotiations going on. We are filing for the kill. Examiner granted, maybe just maybe we will have a low ball offer. These guys are real stupid to allow this mess to continue. In the meantime, lets get a malpractice lawsuit going against Rosen. Rosen will defintiely be off the case then and his firm would probably be out of business.
you missed it. it was a bunch of zeros and nothing more. quit asking that nonsense.
I got mine at his office. Even signed it.
http://www.psgbooks.com/order_penpoint.htm
Im telling everyone, this guy will slaughter Rosen without a doubt.
Got malpractice????
Kind of resembles Susman!
dont you think susman will be there with them... also they say as little as possible. yes, no, i dont recall....
rico = $72, but that is neither here nor there. I would definitely take $24
I believe that is how it works. the other party gets the same chance to depose. Dimon can be in the hot seat now. go after the big dog. Bair is just a pawn, go straight for Dimon. susman needs to work on conflicting Rosen out of here. That in itself might negate his fees, let alone since he is obviously on bod and jpms side, let them pay for it. susman should counter with asking for the sj and go straight ahead and file for trial by jury. another top rated law firm we can use for scum like Rosen is Johnston and Tobey out of Dallas. He loves stuff like this. He has a book title Robbed at Pen Point which is fitting for Rosen. Also he has been known to charge just for results. Let alone, he is in the top two legal malpractice lawyers in the state and top 10 or so in the country.....He is very impressive. I would love for Susman to contact the firm. That happens, game over Rosen. Got milk? Got malpractice insurance??? Of course you do.....
Rico is a scratch off bonus. You dont think Susman will say throw in more or we press for Rico. $8 a share is highly obtainable. Commons receiving money is guaranteed...
I also think we should try to meet that guy. Whether or not his analysis impacts us. They will still try a low ball offer. $.25 up to $1. We will still get $8 plus in the end. Rosens conflicting statements has pretty much doomed him and maybe his firm. Ha!!!!!! Remember people, the new minimum to be considered wealthy is $10 million. Now is the chance to take advantage of the govt. mistake. Commons will definitely get paid...
dont forget this about the Dr.
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remember our former lawyer said tens of billions in money for the estate. these naysayers should be able to figure out that tens of billions is actually more than $19,999,999,999.
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I dont see how everyone involved would make or be able to make $30 mil. a month. Susman should be the highest paid one out there. $1,500 +/- an hour and say he works 10 hours a day 7 days a week. That still adds up to less than $2 million a month, for the entire firm. Where in the he77 would $28 million extra dollars go. And some of these aholes are even charging for something as small as peanuts.
Top Ceos in the highest paying/top tier companies do not make $30 mil. a year, and the companies they are working for are multi billion dollar companies. I have yet to see any lawfirm of any size being close to being worth a quarter of a billion a year. One hundred lawyers in a firm with all of them making $800 an hour(average) @ 9 hour days and 63 hours a week with an additional $250,000 a day in expenses (or $2,500 per lawyer) is still below the #30,000,000 a month. Rosen put up some more bs today in trying to get the judge to approve the ds. Rosen you arent worth the paper you wipe your butt on. With us being worthless, why are you trying to MILK US? I see that JPM will wind up paying all your legal fees anyway, so milk away. The word for you today is fee dispute. Learn it, live it, know it. Got milk???????
if commons were not in the money, the judge wouldnt keep warning them to hand over documents. plus I think we would be out the door today. first offer if they actually meet with susman will be low. susman should say no, f-you, and see you at trial. the avoid trial offer I feel would atleast have to be what they offered in 2008, which was $8 a share. We can throw that in there plus any and all legal expenses. Susman probably will seek trial unless the MINIMUM offer is $8 a share, and thats a starting point.