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You are right. This shot to .13+ in May on relatively nothing compared to this. The volume was very low then and appeared to be only retail participating.
I don't believe that what is said on this board impacts the price much either. There are too many outlets promoting it. Like you, I make my money on the small pops off the bottom whenever possible. .01 quickly turns into real money when it hits .025. Way too much risk trying to pull a double here buying at .015 and hoping for .035 when this topped out briefly at .04 on very high volume. If I don't have a reasonable expectation of a double on a stock like this then it isn't worth the risk IMO. People will be very disappointed that this PR didn't move the price. I suspect that most here are also looking for short term money and have no plans to be long.
I love this one for flipping. Don't you? If not, you are long and have never made money here. I have a lot of sympathy for those longs that got in at higher levels because the story did hold a lot of promise. I have no sympathy for those entering the last few months who went long and lost money however. It isn't difficult to figure out what is going on now. There are those here who love to hate me, but I didn't create this money devouring beast.
I sold during the July promotion as did nearly all who accumulated around a penny and know the history here. So yeah, I expect this to decline and I'm looking for a new entry. My expectations are pretty low however with the recent performance and dilution. My new target buy is .0075. From there I will expect to possibly average down. If it doesn't happen, there are many others out there. This one has been at the top of my list because of its predictability. The product doesn't sell well so the company promotes it to sell stock. If this PR can't move the price at this moment, I don't know what will. Sort of discouraging even with those simply wanting to flip it. Face it, if it won't move well you can't flip it well.
accumulating a million shares around .01 and doubling is a bit more than beer money and I have done it a couple of times. I suspect that there are many here that have done much better than that on a simple two cent move. These people will be cautious going forward, I can tell you that.
Look out below. That is PR couldn't get the price above .015 at open speaks volumns.
Negative. I'm simply a player here and I have always stated that. This is a pump and dump in my opinion and that is the way that I play it. I acquire shares when they have obviously bottomed and sell into the companies promotion and dilution fests. I love it! I won't even consider this again until it breaks below a penny a settles down. They have diluted heavily below .04. A lot of loose shares out there. That they would now buy a stressed product like this only solidifies my opinion of the company. Good luck to you longs though, you have never made money here.
Symantec is one of the largest providers of security software in the world. They sold their name and software to Broadcom in 2019 for $10.7 billion. So go ahead and promote this pump and dump as great, and Symantec as crap.
https://www.vault.com/company-profiles/computer-software/symantec-corporation#:~:text=About%20Symantec%20Corporation,spam%2C%20and%20filters%20unwanted%20content.&text=In%202019%2C%20Symantec%20agreed%20to,to%20Broadcom%20for%20%2410.7%20billion.
I work in the technology space in manufacturing for one of the largest companies in the U.S. and we use Symantec. Symantec sold their Enterprise software and name to Broadcom for $10.7 billion. I would have to consider the source when one calls Symantec and their products crap. For Christ sake, you promote a company like $ATDS and call Symantec crap?
https://www.vault.com/company-profiles/computer-software/symantec-corporation#:~:text=About%20Symantec%20Corporation,spam%2C%20and%20filters%20unwanted%20content.&text=In%202019%2C%20Symantec%20agreed%20to,to%20Broadcom%20for%20%2410.7%20billion.
Bottom line is if $ATDS can afford to buy someone out, It didn't cost much. $ATDS is a loser company posting quarterly losses and requires fresh funding from dilution to get by. It takes about 10 minutes of DD to learn this.
In the security space, if you are a small company like $ATDS, YOU DO NOT compete with Symantec and their resources, Period. If you don't know that you know nothing about IT security. filefacets is a tiny company and probably a motivated seller. The value to $ATDS is the same as their current product mix in that they can promote it to sell shares. Big fund raiser in July and they are not done! This stock is so entertaining that you can't help but be transfixed. Let the fleecing begin.
Estimated Revenue & Financials
FileFacets Inc.'s estimated annual revenue is currently $1.5M per year.
FileFacets Inc.'s estimated revenue per employee is $145,000
https://growjo.com/company/FileFacets_Inc.
Yeah, $ATDS just bailed out a company suffering from too much competition. This really is too funny. If your product is competing with Symantec, you have a serious problem. Better wait for the details of the deal. We know $ATDS has been paying for everything with shares.
https://sourceforge.net/software/product/FileFacets/alternatives
Why did filefacets unload for a price $ATDS can afford? Simple word "Competition". They will be fund raising hugely on this PR. Standby for the fun!
https://sourceforge.net/software/product/FileFacets/alternatives
I guess they are trying to freshen up the mix of crap that they have already acquired and not made money on. Reminds me of the old traveling carnival shows. They need to add a new shiny show every once in a while to keep the money coming in. A company can do this forever as long as they have the tools to dilute and reverse split. I would be interested in knowing if this acquired product was making any money of its own or just another developer unloading something that they know didn't have a future.
Well you are certainly one of the more sober optimists here predicting a break of .02 on a PR. Most promoters here believe that this should break .20 just as soon as they sign another football team. Maybe the company is also chasing fantasy football deals. This company promotes when they need to raise funds and they have just done that. The growing problem here is the dilution. They could only muster a run to .04 during the recent promotion blitz. This means people need to take care in selecting their new entry this time if they hope to flip it.
$ATDS is NOT a Scam.
$ATDS is NOT a Scam. $ATDS is NOT a Scam. $ATDS is NOT a Scam.
Come on it really isn't.
That is too bad. It appears to be easy to separate those youngsters from their cash. Just the type of buyers we will need here again in a month or two when the next fund raiser starts.
Good News!!! Judging from some of the immature comments since close, I suspect that the Robinhood kids have arrived. Now we can start talking about that dollar by Friday again.
Yeah, nice million share dump just before their four course lunch yesterday.
Looking good
Anyone wanting to load up at this level get your bids in. Once there are enough lined up they will certainly get filled.
Something is always cooking with this company. The problem is that there are nothing but corpses here because nothing ever, ever hits the dinner table.
Anyone ever wonder why there appears to be nothing new in the information section at the top of this IHUB page to reflect what is happening currently? It hasn't been updated since 12/31/2019. Any updates here would not be flattering,especially the share structure. Think anything new is available that would point to the efficacy of this company?
You have had your run already. You don't get one every couple of weeks. This took off during the July promo blitz. They sold into heavily and kept the price below .04. They needed the volume and they got it. They didn't give a rip about price since they have they have a purchase price of zero.
The run is done and now the shake out.
Yeah, half truths and innuendo get pitched to those who play off it and give it life. This is exactly what the company does. . How dare you break the peace here. Anyone notice that every time the bid built today to .015 that it was dumped into taking it back to its base around .0142? I'm not saying that it is dilution but it appears to be consistent controlled dumps of as little at 250,000 shares to as much as 750,000, As much as they can without breaking the .0142 base from which to build again. I'm seeing no fewer than 7 instances of this. Anyone feeling like they were played today?
Watch for it tomorrow, the aren't done IMO.
Wow, look at the first week of July to see what I'm talking about. Nothing from the company and minimum volume and chart activity. This is still coming off the July two week promo blitz sponsored by the company who off loaded in excess of 100 million shares. Below is and excerpt of an article about such schemes as this. Sound familiar?
https://www.qualitystocks.com/market-basics/analysis-pump-dump/
Analysis of a Pump & Dump
Always ruthless and usually within the penny or microcap market, pump &
dumps are performed to artificially raise the trading volume and often
the price of a stock (“pumping”) through a campaign of hype which may
include misinformation and/or misrepresentation. This enables insiders
or other large shareholders to sell their stock (“dumping”). Naïve
investors purchase the stock and unwittingly create a façade of
legitimacy. This can entice even more people to believe the hype and buy
even more shares.
Once the schemers have sold their shares, the pumping ends and the share
price plummets. There is only one reason that penny stock insiders spend
money to promote their stock. It is so that they can sell their own
stock. Often, deceived investors will buy into the story that, “We’re
just trying to increase shareholder value.” Well we challenge anybody to
find a penny stock that has been the subject of an aggressive stock
promotion scheme and has been able to maintain its increased share price
for more than just a few days. The share price of a promoted stock will
obey the law of gravity 100% of the time. There is only one way to
permanently increase shareholder value and that is through hard work
and legitimate results.
T
No prep needed. Just responded to a couple of posts this morning. I see that you are missing me though. The price should drift down for a while as the company and this board goes quiet and people lose interest.
I agree, Patience will get you a much better entry.
I get it. For some reason with the fund raisers that was supposed to retire debt and raise operating funds I didn't realize that they had a lot of debt.If they have a debt problem the dilution machine will need to shift gears because they are losing money quarter over quarter and their expenses have been going up. 2.5 million loss Q2 with a current market cap of a bit over 4 million...
"Do not gloss over the hire of the lawyer that specializes in debt solutions. Huge move IMO. It shows me Jason knows exactly what he has to do to get it under control."
There is a debt problem that Jason is doing a great job in controlling?
Isn't he the one who would have created the problem? Why now does he need an attorney to work on it. They have a debt problem after this huge fund raiser? If you needed an attorney to understand your debt problem, would you consider it a good thing?
I understand. I don’t really consider myself trying to save anyone, but I know that even experienced traders can fall for the hype here if completely one sided and throw in a few bucks. A few bucks for some can be 10 grand easily. I watch a lot of stocks and rarely comment. But this one is absolutely fascinating. I look at the YTD chart and see those continuous pops of lower highs and lower lows which shows that only flippers and the company are cashing in. Yet people get sucked in time and time again while it is being promoted.
This should really be a case study. What makes this stock so predictable is that the product doesn’t sell well. It is simply the products promise which allows the company to promote and sell the stock well. I believe that it is because it is a software company and people can easily imagine high valuations. If the product was great and selling it would create buying pressure aside from the promotion of it making price runs unpredictable. So it is a lack of uncertainty around when the stock will move that drives it down. You simply wait until you believe the company will be pulling another fund raiser which fortunately lately has been about the same time this stock settled into its new low. It settles to its low because most educated observers simply know to wait. There is plenty of time to watch this settle before the next event. The group of people here who understand this is probably much bigger than you might imagine. All of course just my opinion.
A slap to people like me? Slap away as long as you foolishly hand over your money. LOL. The CEO isn't a criminal, he has fleeced share holders to the tune of many tens of millions here by playing by the OTC Pink rules which apparently permits it. To say THAT isn't criminal is however a different question.
My greed from this was satisfied by this run. My new entry has yet to arrive if it ever will. Your entry however is seriously under water. things have changed. 100 million plus in additional dilution this run alone for one. Started year around 9 million outstanding shares after the 1:750 RS?? Look at it now already. You know you would more accurately turn those comments on yourself. LOL.
Your IHUB handle says it all. You drink the Kool-Aid here. We all know the Facebook group doesn't allow any dissenters.
Actually you can't debate my fact driven posts and is why you resort to personal attacks. Same in politics, facts win over emotional positions every time. Makes no difference either way to me. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to join the company in taking your money on the next promotion. Works every time without exception. The massive July dilution came with a massive two week promotion blitz. I'm sure that you recognize a pump and dump when you see it. The promotion is over now and the result is tens of millions of loose shares under .04. This will put downward pressure on the price. Care to debate that?
Spoke too soon. got filled and then some. Maybe we don't want it to move at the moment. Going the wrong way. LOL
My same order for 100,000 at .0088 is taking forever to fill. trading very slowly as you said. filling in increments of like 20,000 or so.
My agenda has always been to buy at a level that will quickly double when they promote it. That is how you play stocks like this. Been in and out three times and have done nicely. I won't however touch this where it is right now. The July fund raiser pushed out something like 125 million new shares under .04? Before that most here had sold or were trapped at higher prices.The conditions here have changed. You won't see me buy until it is under a penny. yes, I have offered my opinion regularly here. I also supply many facts and have been correct. Will it go to trips again? I don't see what has changed to prevent it.
Here is a factual number. Without the reverse split this would be trading at .00002. Never thought about the outstanding share number presplit. You say 7 billion? So post 1:750 post RS was a little over 9 million? Now over 500 million? How quickly things change, no?
So if this gets into the trips and stays there, they will absolutely need a reverse split to be uplisted and maintain it above a penny. Based on price and not the number of outstanding shares which is growing quickly. They have already said that toxic financing is all that is available to them. They really shouldn't be talking about uplisting.
The so called basher that you are referring to is correct. You aren't here to educate holders. Data433 did a reverse split of 1:750 at the end of 2019 resulting in a trading price of .70+ in early January. The price then went to a penny in 5 months. So reverse splits are off the table for this company? Do you think maybe they will need one to maintain an uplist?