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Thank you but I prefer to get my deep blue answers elsewhere.
I have seen all I need to from the company.
I will get no honest answers from any of the officers / directors of dpbe.
I have no doubt there was PLENTY of open air time.
Sad but true.
I believe I stated my position clearly. You have misrepresented my position.
....has been drawn was that DPBE has been paying Randy as CEO and through DARR Media
Even if he came on here and posted 100% absolute truth, what kind of harassment and manipulation and twist of words would come of it?
After agreeing with one thing you said I must ask you:
Nebula, how did wilf's plans work out? If I remember correctly, you were quite excited and told others if his plan worked out this would remove 100,000,000 shares from the OS?
The OS was about 1.3 billion back in September '10.
It's 1.836 billion today.
So that means instead of wilf doing what he promised, he actually did just the opposite.
HE ADDED SHARES.
Imagine that.
HALF A BILLION, to be blunt.
So here's wilfs "plan", in wilfs words:
"So here is how I plan to do it. Lets pretend that by the end of December we had $5,000,000 in appraised artifacts. I have arranged for a 2.5 million dollar loan and they will go as high $10,000,000. With the proceeds from whatever the loan is we would put away enough to run the company safely for one year. About $1,400,000, the rest will go directly into a stock purchase plan, much like we did with the gold buying. By the way that little effort paid the bills for a few months and also bought 3,400,000 shares out of the market and put them right into the employee plan. With that kind of buying the price should maybe quite possibly go up a little. So lets say it went to .10. Well next year we could do the same thing, then sell off a few shares to repay the old loan and each and every year if no one else ever decided to buy shares except the employees, we would all win. Because the price of the stock eventually has to go up, why, because we have in effect created our own market as we buy back the shares from the people who got us here."
You are aware right nebula the employee stock plan is -14k deficient.
But hey wilf says "Lets Pretend" roflmao.
How much information do people need to realize this is one of the biggest piece of garbage scams out there ?
WAKE UP PEOPLE
I actually agree with you on this.
In the last few months I've been seeing these references and implications in posts about "anything being left for the shareholders". Where are people getting the idea that they are expecting to be given some of the treasure???
I never got in expecting that and wouldn't unless it was explicitly stated somewhere. I don't think you could even do that. Your reward investing in a stock is profit if and when the price goes up. There is no coins or treasure involved. I really hope nobody actually expects that.
Yeah google gotta love it.
I know I do.
I found the information out quite by chance from dpbe's latest financial filings of accumulated debt.
When I saw darr media I thought hmmmm.
Who or what is darr media.
Why does dpbe owe them such a large amount of money.
To my knowledge there was no prior conversation about darr media on this board.
Well not until I brought it up myself.
When I uncovered the tie in to randy champion I immediately flashed on a conflict of interest.
I drew a conclusion that was reasonable in my opinion.
When I did all heck broke loose.
That all could have been avoided with a clarifying statement from dpbe's ceo randy champion right here on this thread.
We all know randy vanished instead.
Randy champion aka champartdirector went to the safety of HIS company's site and posted this little gem:
Champion Administrator re: Help Shut Down I-Hub
on: January 12, 2012, 01:16
What a great idea!! I would love to see someone take out the trash! As I mentioned in my other post, there is an agenda there. Interestingly enough a whole lot of posts were just deleted over there by Admin. Sixteen to be exact. Six by our prolific friend and TEN by those either trying to contradict what he said or show support for the company. I would love to debate dj on whatever posts he desires, but where? Again, he hides behind the anonymity of the internet. What courage! Why is he/she so afraid to tell us who they are?
Why does randy champion as dpbe's ceo and moderator of this thread secretly want i-hub shut down?
Randy it matters not WHO I AM.
You are dpbe's ceo..Do your job and answer shareholder questions.
The latest deep blue marine financials show the only debt being reduced by dpbe is the debt owed to its founder's alexander lindale. Everyone else goes without.
Let the creditors pound sand.
Let the employees EAT SAND.
Way to go blum.
Wilfy,says he is buying.
That's funny, if you believe him.
So he pr's he is buying stock big deal.
Its to suck in the unsuspecting to do what he really does.
"SELL STOCK"
WILFY does not have to file a form 4 so he can buy and sell so WILFY buys low and sells high, I believe that's called trading and that how some make money.
The stock will go up soon and WILFY will sell and make a good profit.
Well JRF that sure says it all. Nice methodical unemotional documentation of exactly what went down. Why is it randy moderates this thread for "public sentiment", yet cuts and runs to the safety of his blog to take cheap shots at those that want questions answered?
We now have 2 DPBE ceo's of less than stand up character. Looks to me like one ceo lies and the other swears to it.
Is this the new low standard CEO protocol?
Or just the actions of less than honorable people?
I say its the ACTIONS of LESS THAN HONORABLE PEOPLE.
Yeah money apparently fraudulently obtained via his illegal stock selling activity from wilf blum's alexander lindale. Money he probably thinks he can launder through deep blue marine and claim as spent. Unfortunately for him he wants it back in the form of an IOU.
That is a money trail.
I am geting tired of seeing this type of activity receiving a slap on the wrist. Time to make the crooks pay. Lets make an example out of blum. I sure hope this guy wilf, wilfred or wilford blum gets an officer and director bar, a ban from participating in any form of stock offering now or in the future, disgorgement of all ill gotten gains and several years in PRISON.
Anyone disagree?
On what basis?
nebula, did you forget to respond to how it was you found out randy champion was darr media?
Does anyone have any due diligence links for deep blues Ir/legal department a one bradley simpson /amiccus courtroom technologies?
Well isn't this special:
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110406005372/en/Deep-Blue-Marine-Television-Project
Not so fast. There is NOT a buyer for every sale. That is nonsense. A market maker is there to do what? To make a market. There are eventually buyers, but at what price they become buyers is determined by the market, and supply and demand of the stock.
You are now making buy recommendations for dpbe? Are you a registered investment advisor?
I am sure that everybody watches the shares trading, but there is a buyer for every sale.
I have my buy orders in but they have not been filled yet.
I know that Wilf said he was buying but did not say when nor how much but this would be a good time for him and others in DPBE to buy before any good announcement at these prices.
Why buy high when you can wait it out buying low a few at a time.
Canecorsos, I noticed the bid dropping and a print at .0006
That doesn't happen from all trades taking place at ask. Others will try to spin things differently, things like look at all those buys. That is nonsense, all that anyone other than a market maker can say with certainty is that trades are going off.
As for the dpbe share structure numbers:
Straight from the only reliable source, the T/A.
OS: 1,836,841,609
Float: 1,341,963,904
That's 168 million shares added to the O/S since xmas!!!! HO HO HO
Notice the 333,000,000 shares that are still NOT returned to treasury?
Pay attn to what dpbe says
Pay CLOSER attn to what dpbe does
Dustmoff, I appreciate you posting your DEEP BLUE info here. I would love nothing more than to chat with you about your experiences with dpbe. I will p/m you during happy hour.
Colonel, I have a huge problem with blum loaning dpbe money when I suspect, Let me repeat, I suspect THAT money was the money illegally obtained from the fraudulent sale of stock from another company wilf is currently under SEC investigation for.
Let me show you how I came up with my suspicions.I would like to know your thoughts on this as well.
In june 2007 dpbe owed wilf's alexander lindale 55,000.00
By june 2009 dpbe owed wilf's alexander lindale $1,700,000.00.
Now get this, according to the SEC complaint against him wilf's alexander lindale during 2008 and 2010 took in over $3,000,000 as his share of the over 12,000,000 worth of unregistered securities that were fraudulently sold based on illegal opinion letters submitted by wilf's disbarred attorney stephen bennett.
See where I am going here?
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2011/lr21995.htm
DPBE owes 3,200,000.00 give or take 5 decimal points.
alexander lindale (wilf blum), bob dirkes, jack rasmussen, glen hoover, scott mortensen, tony huffaker...those men are owed approximately 2.9 million dollars.
add in alejandro selmi, amicus, billy rawson, billys crew, gem pro, darr media, archimides, joe markovick, ej anderson, joe holbrook, ralph phillips, homer peters, receipts b me, roquesAnn fillerup, rsh consulting, Tommy holden, wjs and associates.
Those men and women are owed another $300k
Last time I went to school
2,900,000.00
+300,000.00
_____________
3,200,000.00
Obviously you were also INCORRECT in your statement about 95% of shareholders are holding this dog...nice to see you changed it to your opinion as you had no 1.7 billion share consensus.
Wilf blum is providing enough cannon fodder for so called "shorters" all on his own.
I have no problem turning in my findings to securities regulators. You may have noticed blum is currently in the clutches of the SEC as it is.
Well then we are obviously NEVER EVER going to see this eye to eye.
As that is precisely a suggestion that randy is working for free.
The closest he came was to ask YOU to prove your statement that Randy has been compensated in any form.
Like I said ignorance of the facts does not make them go away.
https://secure.utah.gov/bes/action/details?entity=7491869-0160
http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=DPBE&id=68733
Protocolblack suggests randy champion has been working for free for deep blue marine. No wages,no salary,no stock, no stock options, no retirement you get my drift here for services rendered in support of deep blue marine whether such compensation comes from deep blue marine or alexander lindale or any other such entity. Well he would have to be working for free for my statement to be proven incorrect, and so far no one has done that.
I stand by my statement.
Wrong again nebula2012 and here is why:
First - we have a misleading implication that Deep Blue is the ONLY company to have liabilities.
Second - REAL shareholders are aware that most of these liabilities are back pay owed to company employees who obviously have enough faith in the company and/or privy to knowledge that we are not, to expect that this will be cleared up, since they are still working for the company.
Third - REAL shareholders are aware that these numbers are old and will wait for the next quarterly financial statement to see how these numbers change. We don't need daily updates on the status of liabilities.
Fourth - REAL shareholders are aware there is no money. We know that the company has been selling stock. We know this is done to both catch up on back pay and bills as well as put the boats in the water to continue recovering treasure and hopefully discover the identity of the ships we are working on.
Ignorance of my findings does not make them go away or lessen their validity.
The so called "shreds" were made available, links and all.
I tell you what, I have submitted a complaint to the SEC to let them determine the validity of my claim.
By the way,There was no explanation provided to clarify my findings by anyone, including the ceo randy champion himself who voluntarily posts on this thread.
Randy champion even chooses to moderate this thread, under the silly guise of determining public sentiment about his company. After finding out he is the principal of darr media.
I have to now ask randy champion which company he is interested in monitoring public sentiment for, dpbe or darr media?
SO WHICH IS IT ?
Canecorsos, no we won't ever get responses to our questions. That in itself is our answer. They are loud and clear answers.
As for bubbahlo's definition of destruction meaning "folded"?
Definition of DESTRUCTION
1
: the state or fact of being destroyed : ruin
2
: the action or process of destroying something
No where did I find the words: "folding" "folded" "to fold".
Agreed Colonel let me just add.
I take exception to trading on a bunch of hogwash information.
There are more worthy places to place one's hard earned money.
This pile of deep blue marine trash has run its course.
Take it private blum.
Loot and pillage as you will from the private sector.
People who play penny stocks need to at least get a ticker symbol that's recognized by trading platforms, it’s DPBE, not DPME.
You say "Pessimistic for no reason?" Ask that question to those that fell for such blum storytelling.
Please, plenty of people know how to trade this trash. This is for those that don't and fell in for the year after year after year of lies,thievery,unending dilution,reverse split,and more dilution. These people eventually woke up to the fact that their money is gone forever.
I would present to readers that some of those people who now remain positive here are still asleep in the hopes that this dog eventually delivers some change back for the large sums of money they once HAD.
In fact Colonel stated it perfectly:
“shares purchased cheaply (buy low) will be sold at inflated prices (sell high) to the latest wave of “investors” (newbies) who will wait in vain for their treasure dividends as the share price slowly drifts back to sub penny.”
That’s how “people” play penny stocks, gutts. Your infamous founder Wilf Blum, principal of ALEXANDER LINDALE (you do know what that company does, right?) knows better than anyone here.
Trueblue I feel compelled to challenge your statements.
In order for such a statement to hold water, you would have to have a consensus of holders of over 1,744,000,000 shares of deep blue marine stock.
Are you attempting to convince us you have such a consensus?
95% of stock owners in dpbe aren't selling and are just waiting and watching to see what new things are found this season.
A sample of Current dpbe liabilities:
Not a complete list...What is the status of these debts?
Shareholders want to know where the money is going if NOT towards operational debt.
Alejando Selmi - $13,750.00
Tommy Holden - $8,950.00
Amicus Courtroom Technologies - $15,968.08
Darr Media -$65,000.00
DR billy's crew -$9000.00
Billy Rawson -$35,000.00
WJS & Assoc -$15,000.00
Gem Pro -$30,000.00
Joe Markovick -$12,500.00
Roques Ann Fillerup -$10,900.00
It would appear to me that selling worthless dpbe stock (or was it dpbm at the time?) at more than twice market value worked out horribly for purchasers once again, considering deep blue went from your claimed price of .005 all the way DOWN to the lowly record setting 52 week low of .0005
But then again it was OBVIOUS that Deep Blue somehow managed to sell a billion shares for .005, when the stock price at the time was .002/.003. How did that turn out???
nebula2012, Allow me to assist you to understand.
Canecorsos simply asked a few Questions. Questions I along with many dpbe shareholders would like answered. Nowhere that I can think of is it relevant to ask for proof, he is simply asking a few questions.
A copy of those questions is attached to refresh your memory.
Capt Billy when the last time was the the Dominican Archeologist was paid and how many months pay he is owed. Also how many months is Deep Blue Marine behind on lease payments to the Dominican Government.
How long is the Dominican Government going to allow Deep Blue Marine to dive on the lease site without paying its bill?
Executive director william rawson stated he was a director. There was no sarcasm in his signature whatsoever.
I have posted DOCUMENTED PROOF via an official SEC filed form that william rawson is INDEED an executive officer of deep blue marine. I presented verification of his post whereby william rawson HIMSELF signed his title as DIRECTOR rawson.
Sarcastic or otherwise.
END OF STORY.
Can anyone provide a link to enable verification of the statement bubbahlo made claiming executive director william rawson is a vice president of "operation of the boats?"
Vice president of operation of the boats not vice president of company.
Your carrying an empty bag.
Nope , that's my opinion of this pile of trash deep blue marine.
I am entitled to my opinion.
Go figure yours out for yourself.
I am done doing homework for so called deep blue fence sitter/ceos.
Let the mouth of executive director william rawson speak for itself:
"We tied the ship up at five AM this morning with a very tired but happy captain and crew.
So that’s how director Rawson spent his night."
Exactly Canecorsos Exactly.
Do not listen to what the company is telling you, 90% OF THAT IS UNTRUE.
Rather investigate what the company is DOING.
That's where the TRUTH IS.
Trust no one but yourself. and let me provide the whole statement I made not the HATCHET job undertaken by a fence sitter.
Factual deep blue marine due diligence ....excellent report.
Just goes to show how NOTHING should be taken as the truth... Not even my 100% factual posts. That is why its crucial to post links so no one has to take anyone's word for anything. Verify everything to your own satisfaction.
Great questions canecorsos.
Questions shareholders deserve answers to.
Any deep blue officer, any deep blue executive director, any deep blue boat captain, any deep blue employee that evades questions from shareholders?
That should be of GRAVE concern to not only SHAREHOLDERS, but to POTENTIAL shareholders of this pile of garbage company.
I have truly enjoyed today's exchange. It has been my pleasure to provide readers with the REAL STORY here.
Let me leave you all with this thought.
Dpbe director william rawson has now changed his mind about being an executive director of deep blue marine. He claims he is not "currently" an officer.
One of two things are now possible.
1. william rawson is making another FALSE PUBLIC STATEMENT.
OR
2.william rawson is making a selective disclosure of a deep blue marine MATERIAL EVENT.
So do tell director rawson?
Which is it?
Don't bother responding.
http://sec.gov/complaint/tipscomplaint.shtml
Yeah really, like the dpbe links I just posted. I find research,investigation and verification to be the ABC's of due diligence.
Do not misstate my words. I never said it mentioned dpbe specifically. Did you even bother to read the story? I found it interesting to note that utah has a problem with scams.
Again do not misstate my words. What I said was:
Like I said on the date of the pr, the statement "has made application" was false.
Your statement while theoretically feasible, is flawed as stating something accomplished 5 years ago but pr'ing it as current would be MISLEADING."Misleading and deceptive would be problematic for dpbe too. If you doubt that go ask the SEC.
Here, these deep blue related links knock out multiple birds with one stone.
Let me ADDITIONALLY point this out... Provide the amount of the gross proceeds of the offering that has been or is proposed to be used for payments to any of the persons required to be named as executive officers, directors or promoters in response to Item 3 above. If the amount is unknown, provide an estimate and check the box next to the amount.
$ 100000 USD
Let me add all the officers and directors are also promoters of this company. Director rawson from deep blue marine posted on this thread " I also like people like Nebula and TrueBlue and a few others who take time to do their own research. Being investors they know that identifying the ship could raise the PPS overnight. Also I am pretty sure would triple the price of the recovered items. So that kind of investor is people who I thank very much for posting on here."
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=71140002
Take your pick.
FORM D 2009 SIGNED BY blum http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=6903229
FORM D 2011 SIGNED BY randy http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingHtml?FilingID=8156573
P/R http://pilot.us.reuters.com/article/2009/08/31/idUS154594+31-Aug-2009+MW20090831
If you wish to verify, just call and ask the dpbe transfer agent.
You claim to have been calling the deep blue's t/a all along.
Look for the links, they have already been provided.
All my due diligence links are attached to my ORIGINAL postings.
I am responding to your post, as its applicable to EVERYONE.
Even those that have absolutely NO faith in dpbe.
And if you DO have faith in something,you have the right not to be mocked or insulted for it.
You are once AGAIN not making factual statements Nebula 2012.
Haven't seen ANYTHING that shows someone was getting paid ONCE, much less TWICE